General WWE Complaining & PG Rating Thread

First identify when you began watching / Rate your enthusiasm with today's product

  • I began watching in Hogan Era. I am Very Satisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Hogan Era. I am neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Hogan Era. I am very Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in New Generation Era. I am Very Satisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in New Generation Era. I am neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in New Generation Era. I am very Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Attitude Era. I am Very Satisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Attitude Era. I am neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Attitude Era. I am very Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Post-Attitude Era. I am Very Satisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Post-Attitude Era. I am neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in Post-Attitude Era. I am very Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in PG Era. I am Very Satisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in PG Era. I am neither Satisfied or Dissatisfied with PG Era.

  • I began watching in PG Era. I am very Dissatisfied with PG Era.


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You sound like a person that got dumped by their gf and is saying
I hate you now but I will still call you and text you from time to time.
You basically have a attachment to the product so much that you make a post on an internet forum. You must know how minority you are as a Wrestling Fan.
And by buying RR and Mania, you supporting Vince more than the people who watch RAW/SD but watches PPV on Youtube or something.
Seriously if your not gonna like wrestling anymore, you wouldn't even care to post here..
 
Maybe it's the fact that Raw resembles a cartoon nowadays.Maybe it's the fact it appears to be made up as it goes along with no thought of the long term. Maybe it's the fact that Triple H and Randy Orton appear to be lock into a fued that looks like lasting till the end of time(when is the last time you remember two guys having 3 televised last man standing matches)?Maybe it's the fact CM Punk won the title and then did the job in almost all televised matches before he lost it.Maybe it's the fact that in 2005 I remember watching Raw and that the main event was a six man tag where one of the face team was Hulk Hogan and now it's Seth Green.But I'm done. I'll still by my wrestling mags as that's the only thing I enjoy about wrestling these days.I might even watch TNA if(as I suspect will happen)Russo get's booted off the booking team.I'll still buy DVD's from the days when wrestling was good.I may even watch Rumble and mania.But I'm not going to follow or watch any of the new product. I know Vince doesn't care. I'm not 12 or someone who's interested in seeing people whose careers peaked years ago,so clearly the product is not booked with me in mind. But I would just like to send a personal thank you to Vince in case of the(admittly) unlikely event he will see it.Thank you Vince,Thank you for taking a product I fell in love with the moment I saw it and making it so piss poor that I can't bear to watch anymore. Thank you Vince. Fuck you very much.

Yours
A former WWE fan.

I will say this much. I respect you for doing what you are doing. It is extremely difficult for fans who are unhappy with the product to take that step and stop watching altogether. As you said, for most people, it is a huge part of their childhood and it becomes sentimental to them.

I wouldn't let the responses here discourage you. You are free to do whatever you want and free to make whatever choice you want to make. The fact is that I agree with you in that the WWE product of today is pretty bad. The quality of the wrestling is the best it has ever been, but for me, it never was solely about the wrestling. It was about EVERYTHING .... the feuds, the storylines, the colorful characters/personalities, the arguing of the commentators, the ringside managers who instigated, etc.

The idea of watching simply scripted wrestling matches, without any of that other stuff to make you even care about the performers, I find to be very dull and boring, as well. If I am watching that type of product, than I mine as well be watching Amateur Wrestling, which doesn't have scripted outcomes. Or I mine as well be watching UFC.

And to Rated R Superfan who gave us the "to all the REAL wrestling fan" line in the thread, get over yourself. You sound just as bad as the Far Right wing of the Republican Party in using the "Real Americans" line, implying as though we have widespread "Anti-Americans" in the country.

You also referred to wrestling as a "sport". It isn't a sport. There is no sport that has a pre-determined outcome as part of the rules. And that is what I think some of the problems are with the ROH-bots we see online that seem to have infiltrated the WWE. You think by making it look more like a real sport, by eliminating the entertainment elements, that people will think of it more so as a "real sport". They won't.

As long as the outcomes are predetermined, it will never be accepted as a "sport". So my question would be "Why even pretend like it is, then?". Why is it so important for fans to want respect from society for the wrestling business? Is it a self-esteem issue? Are you ashamed to watch wrestling and be a wrestling fan, unless we get to the point where the general populace approves of it? Why do you care what the general populace thinks, to begin with?
 
Man, I think you guys are missing the mark. Not once did he say he was boycotting the WWE product totally; he simply said he can't stand to watch the day-to-day televised product they are putting out.

Really, if you look past the means of conveyance and concentrate more on the message, the guy isn't saying anything we all haven't said: the product is stale, juvenile, and suffers terribly from a lack of creativity. I know I find it hard myself to sit through Raw and Smackdown and WWECW and Impact!, but I still do. Not for the vignettes, but for the wrestling.

Cut the guy a break, for Pete's sake.
 
I gotta agree with my boy on this. This terrible booking has gone on far too long. It's the same rehashed matches over and over. Essentially its become a round robin in the main card involving HHH, Batista, Cena, and Orton... when one of them is not hurt. Give some new guys a shot. Jack Swagger is one of the future stars of this company give him a shot. Then finally when it does look like they are going to give him a push have some other mid card come out of no where and beat him. If your going to do that then give Evan Bourne a push instead of essentially saying good job now fuck you and wait.

Remember back to last year with Punk cashing in on the MITB against Edge, that had potential. What did VKM do he said fuck you your going to be a jobber and lose the belt in a month. What did the kid do that was so wrong his promo's were immaculate and frankly a high flying champ would have been a good mix. I too miss the days were these storylines actually meant something. Where it wasn't a build for a ppv then a new storyline. To hell with that. The Rock and Austin continued storylines for months at a time. For the time being I understand that what there doing is the smart move but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm off my soap box now....
 
Give some new guys a shot. Jack Swagger is one of the future stars of this company give him a shot. Then finally when it does look like they are going to give him a push have some other mid card come out of no where and beat him. If your going to do that then give Evan Bourne a push instead of essentially saying good job now fuck you and wait.

Remember back to last year with Punk cashing in on the MITB against Edge, that had potential. What did VKM do he said fuck you your going to be a jobber and lose the belt in a month. What did the kid do that was so wrong his promo's were immaculate and frankly a high flying champ would have been a good mix.

A time-honored tradition in the pro-wrestling business is paying your dues. Everyone needs to put their time in if they wish to be on top.

Vince tried pushing new talent to the moon in the form of Brock Lesnar and what happened... he left the WWE cold. Then Vince pushed Randy Orton and what happened... he was too young and immature, and he caused more harm than good to himself and the rest of the locker room.

Let's face it, I LOVE Jack Swagger. but the guy hasn't even been on TV for a year, and he already won the ECW Championship. Now you want him to feud for the WWE title?? He's clearly not ready yet. His live matches still need work and the fans don't need him to be shoved down their throats.

Right now, MVP, John Morrison, and the Miz are all cutting their teeth in the midcard and being primed for a push to the top. Everyone needs to stop whining and have some patience in the WWE's system. Eventually, all of your calls will be answered, but for right now, the new talent just isn't ready for these types of moves.
 
I gotta agree with my boy on this. This terrible booking has gone on far too long. It's the same rehashed matches over and over. Essentially its become a round robin in the main card involving HHH, Batista, Cena, and Orton... when one of them is not hurt. Give some new guys a shot. Jack Swagger is one of the future stars of this company give him a shot. Then finally when it does look like they are going to give him a push have some other mid card come out of no where and beat him. If your going to do that then give Evan Bourne a push instead of essentially saying good job now fuck you and wait.

Remember back to last year with Punk cashing in on the MITB against Edge, that had potential. What did VKM do he said fuck you your going to be a jobber and lose the belt in a month. What did the kid do that was so wrong his promo's were immaculate and frankly a high flying champ would have been a good mix. I too miss the days were these storylines actually meant something. Where it wasn't a build for a ppv then a new storyline. To hell with that. The Rock and Austin continued storylines for months at a time. For the time being I understand that what there doing is the smart move but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I'm off my soap box now....

The top superstars stay on top for a long time. There isn't anything wrong with that. Midcarders like Jack Swagger, Kofi, MVP, etc. have to pay their dues first or else you will have another Brock Lesnar situation and Vince doesn't want that mistake again. Swagger hasn't been in the WWE for a year and you already want to give him a title shot. It takes time and if you rush into a situation, most often than not it will backfire on you.
 
Maybe it's the fact that Raw resembles a cartoon nowadays.Maybe it's the fact it appears to be made up as it goes along with no thought of the long term. Maybe it's the fact that Triple H and Randy Orton appear to be lock into a fued that looks like lasting till the end of time(when is the last time you remember two guys having 3 televised last man standing matches)?Maybe it's the fact CM Punk won the title and then did the job in almost all televised matches before he lost it.Maybe it's the fact that in 2005 I remember watching Raw and that the main event was a six man tag where one of the face team was Hulk Hogan and now it's Seth Green.But I'm done. I'll still by my wrestling mags as that's the only thing I enjoy about wrestling these days.I might even watch TNA if(as I suspect will happen)Russo get's booted off the booking team.I'll still buy DVD's from the days when wrestling was good.I may even watch Rumble and mania.But I'm not going to follow or watch any of the new product. I know Vince doesn't care. I'm not 12 or someone who's interested in seeing people whose careers peaked years ago,so clearly the product is not booked with me in mind. But I would just like to send a personal thank you to Vince in case of the(admittly) unlikely event he will see it.Thank you Vince,Thank you for taking a product I fell in love with the moment I saw it and making it so piss poor that I can't bear to watch anymore. Thank you Vince. Fuck you very much.

Yours
A former WWE fan.

A one line response to this: You will be the first person to post next week when Raw is over and no one believes you or cares.

If you're giving up on the WWE, why would you post the thought? Wouldn't you just give up quietly and move on? I gave up on the WWE in 2003 and I couldn't be happier to be back. I hate who I hate, am entertained by what entertains me, and I take from wrestling what it gives. How to Watch Wrestling 101: the Attitude Era is over. Rock and Austin aren't coming back. Either choose to enjoy what is presented to you or go away quietly.
 
<hands ipswichicon80 a tissue> Here, wipe your ass when you're done.

First of all, this thread has been done before to hell and back. In my opinion, it is a total spam thread and should be treated as such. I hope the mods don't kill me for saying that.

Second of all, are you just begging for attention, convtroversy, or both? This is one of most assenine, whiny, BS threads I've read on this site all month.

Little Jerry Lawler and FalKon got it right... I doubt that Vince is going to lose sleep over losing you as a viewer, nor will you convince anyone else on this site to side with you and sympathize with your point of view.

As for the rest of us, we'll keep watching. I, for one, think the product is improving. Sure, we've seen HHH/Cena/Orton a lot over the past 6 months, but they are the main eventers! Welcome to professional wrestling. Nothing has changed since the days of Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, and the Rock. The top guys get the top spots. They draw the money. We all buy the PPV's and watch Raw each week to see where their feuds are going.

Here's a tip to everyone else that loves to hear themselves bitch and moan about the product... if you don't like it, turn it off. And if you already turned it off, then stop bitching about it to others and trying to get them to turn it off. You're not convincing anyone to do anything... you're just looking like a moron.


That's really annoying. Capitals, eugh. And the whole Triple Hollywood and Cenanuff thing wasn't funny the first time around. Give it a rest.

Anyway, that was seperate.

Despite doing something I hate doing and not actually contrubuting to the thread instead just repeating pretty much what everyone else has said. This entire thread is just someone asking to be ripped apart. You've dug a hole. I went through a period about 2 years ago where WWE pissed me off and TNA was no better. It wasn't easy back then for me to get RoH or UFC though so I came back. The forum I posted at at the time didn't rip on me or laugh at my expense. I could go back to the same forum and pick up where I left off. The even gave me vice admincy again, a position I held before I left.

You however have come here and told us you're going. As someone else posted, good luck finding something else as good as wrestling. UFC's great but there isn't enough of it to make the complete substitute. Not for me anyway. Two weekly shows and a monthly PPV. The occasional special and a great mix of comedy and action. WWE is the only place for that.

So when you fail, you're gonna struggle fitting back in. People will always uncover your past on the net! Always!
 
A one line response to this: You will be the first person to post next week when Raw is over and no one believes you or cares.

If you're giving up on the WWE, why would you post the thought? Wouldn't you just give up quietly and move on? I gave up on the WWE in 2003 and I couldn't be happier to be back. I hate who I hate, am entertained by what entertains me, and I take from wrestling what it gives. How to Watch Wrestling 101: the Attitude Era is over. Rock and Austin aren't coming back. Either choose to enjoy what is presented to you or go away quietly.

Who says he has to go away quietly? He can do whatever he wants to do.

Him announcing that he is leaving is probably just a "Take your opinions and your attempts at brow-beating and shove them up your ass" response to the ROH bots on here who try to beat Vince's current philosophy of wrestling into the minds of people who are unwilling to embrace their vision.

He's the one who is more so acting like an Independent, Free Thinker on here, because he isn't the one who likes to simply go with the flow. He has a notion of what he finds enjoyable about wrestling, and he sticks to those principles.

There are people on here who I know don't enjoy today's product, yet they continue to watch and support it, because they can't turn it off. And that's a perfect case of "Blind Loyalty". I think what his purpose was, was to inspire people who are unhappy with the product that "it is okay to leave". Obviously, some people would rather see those kinds of things swept under the carpet, because they don't like to draw any attention to the fact that people are actually leaving a product they enjoy watching.

If he wants to announce he's leaving to set an example for fans and his message is that it is okay to leave, then he has every right to.
 
Why must people insult this guy ? It's his choice and I respect him if he doesn't like the product and can make the step of not watching it then all the power to him god knows I'm not a big fan of it now either.

As for the people insulting him grow up it's about time how about a constructed educated response.
 
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First of all professional wrestling isn't a sport whether it's indy, international or whatever. Maybe other people portrays it as a sport but it's still a staged show where everyone walks into the ring knowing what to expect with no legit bitterness between anyone. Say it's a sport to people who doesn't watch wrestling, they will rip you.

Also, who cares if you don't want to watch WWE anymore? Why is it worthy enough to the point you need your own thread? I mean yeah people do get tired of Raw much like myself but do you see myself making a lousy rant revolving around the fact I'm a former fan? No. Unlike some people all what I do is don't watch Raw and put my focus on SmackDown! instead. I mean you are entitled to your own opinion and there are a lot of other threads where you can express your opinions but come on now creating and revolving a thread around the fact you're a former WWE fan is asking for trouble. I don't know if you're trying to encourage other WWE fans to make the turn or what. This is the WWE section with actual fans so I don't know how you're expecting positive responses. Just face it, someone becoming a "former fan" is not topic worthy. We are here to discuss wrestling, not someone's personal choice. If it weren't for the negatives and some of your hypocritical points then no one would care to post in a thread revolving around someone turning his TV off.

Also, WHY DIDN'T YOU POST THIS IN THE WRESTLING SPAM ZONE? I think less people would rip on you if you posted this in the appropriate section, the Wrestling Spam Zone.
 
Maybe it's the fact that Raw resembles a cartoon nowadays.

Uh, below you talk about the "glory" days of wrestling. Next time you watch the "glory" days, you should REALLY try and notice the fact, that the 80's resembled Cartoons about 15x more than todays product does. Today's product is becoming more realistic with each passing show, and its wonderful.

Maybe it's the fact it appears to be made up as it goes along with no thought of the long term.

Heh, I'm sure the WWE has plans all the way up into WrestleMania 26, the problem with plans, is sometimes the croud doesn't react the way the WWE would think on paper. Improvises are always open in a scripted sport like the WWE. Long term is in their eyes, but to make it to long term, short term needs have to be met. But you can really try to go on and explain to me, what is the WWE doing incorrectly, that is short term?

Maybe it's the fact that Triple H and Randy Orton appear to be lock into a fued that looks like lasting till the end of time(when is the last time you remember two guys having 3 televised last man standing matches)?

Err, I don't recall. But if you haven't notice, about 2 days before you made this thread. The fued is over, and theres a new contender for the title. SummerSlam is just around the corner, and the Cena is challenging for the title. What the fuck does that tell you? Pay attention, please. I know its hard sometimes for your ADHD brain, but you'll catch on someday.

Maybe it's the fact CM Punk won the title and then did the job in almost all televised matches before he lost it.

I thought you should know, after your periods, you need to put spaces, thanks.

Heh, CM Punk has done a miraculous job with the Title, and is still in the Title picture. I've probably got the most hatred for Jeff Hardy on the face of this plannet. Don't believe me? PM Jazwaz1 and tell her how long I was cussing after Jeff won the title. Overall, as much as I hate it, the fans wanted that title change, so the WWE gave it to them. They are probably trying to secure the fact that Jeff stays with the WWE as well.

Maybe it's the fact that in 2005 I remember watching Raw and that the main event was a six man tag where one of the face team was Hulk Hogan and now it's Seth Green.

Seth Green > Hulk Hogan in 2005. Seth Green is one of the fastest growing names in the world, he brought media attention to RAW, and incase you didn't notice. Ratings spiked that night on RAW. It was a buzz all around America in every household that Seth Green was going to be on RAW. Hulk Hogan only draws old fans, Seth Green draws new fans. The WWE wants new fans, as you, the old fans are at the age where you just bitch a lot.

But I'm done.

Thank God.

I'll still by my wrestling mags as that's the only thing I enjoy about wrestling these days.

Nice to hear. Vince will enjoy your money, I'm sure.

I might even watch TNA if(as I suspect will happen)Russo get's booted off the booking team.

Assuming you reply, which more than likely you just got on to bitch, then will never get on again. I ask you this, do you know Stone Cold Steve Austin? Are you aware of the things Russo had involved with Stone Cold? Without Russo, there would be no Stone Cold/Rock/Attitude era. Just saying.

I'll still buy DVD's from the days when wrestling was good.

I really hope you're not meaning the Attitude era. Looking back, that was the Holocaust of the Wrestling world.

I may even watch Rumble and mania.

I'm sure Vince will enjoy your total of 110$

But I'm not going to follow or watch any of the new product.

One viewer lost, thousands and millions gains. Heh, such a shame.

I know Vince doesn't care.

Why should he?

I'm not 12 or someone who's interested in seeing people whose careers peaked years ago,so clearly the product is not booked with me in mind.

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE. You're going to watch TNA? TNA? But, you say this shit? Orton is 28 fucking years old, his peak is in 10 year. Incase you haven't noticed as well, the biggest stars ever, during their primes, were mid-upper 30's, to even their lower 40's. Did you REALLY just say this? I mean seriously? :lmao::banghead:

But I would just like to send a personal thank you to Vince in case of the(admittly) unlikely event he will see it.

Uh? You think Vince reads internet forums? :disappointed:

Thank you Vince,Thank you for taking a product I fell in love with the moment I saw it and making it so piss poor that I can't bear to watch anymore.

Sigh, thanks for taking a forum I love very much, and tainted it with this bullshit.

Thank you Vince.

This makes the 3rd time you've said this, by the way. Redundant much?

Fuck you very much.

Thank you, fuck you too.

Yours
A former WWE fan.

:icon_cry: Teary eyed I am.
 
todays product is better than than any other era!!!! r u shitting me!!!!

again you all fail to see my point. i really dont care that they are focused on kids. i don't care that its pg. i just want a better show. the creative is lazy as hell. like i said before there are very little feuds in the current wwe. there should always be side stories. there should always be mid-card feuds. there is currently 1. 1 on three shows that whould include atleast 5. thats what im pissed about. i dont care about the pg. i care about the lazy writting
 
Just a general discussion that has probably been done before but I am too lazy to look around the site for a similar thread. Any way with the recent direction that the WWE turned in 2005 to the now in 2009, it makes me ask the question to the rest of you WWE fans. Does their writing and booking staff annoy you?

Now don't go thinking i'm not a fan of WWE. I am a big fan and I only post in the WWE section here on WZ, but even I have to admit that some of their storylines and booking decisions truly annoy me. Although the booking isn't completely terrible, no the honor of terrible booking would have to go to TNA.

But as I said this is just a general discussion to talk about your frustrations you may have with the WWE's writing and/or booking staff.

Like sometimes I think that WWE hires monkeys to write there storylines, errr wait a second thats true, damn it!
 
If you don't like it, there's no need to parade around boycotting it in a place where 99.9% of the members are going to not only disagree with you, but mercilessly rip you to shreds while doing so. Save yourself the trouble. Not to mention If you really wanna fuck Vince, you'd have a better chance of doing so by not paying 19.99 for a DVD of the "old days" or 39.99 for a PPV, and just freeloading off RAW...but hey, whatever gets you off...

Of course the WWE is different today, as is most every other piece of sport or entertainment in the world. Let's be honest, WWE is a business, plain and simple. For every One person like yourself who hates the John Cenas, Jeff Hardys, etc, there are 10,000 screaming 12 year olds buying chain gang t-shirts and spinning world titles. Seems like they're doing something right.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of stretcher matches, trying to cash in money in the bank 3 times before you're actually successful, or some of the other gimmicks that WWE goes with these days, but at the end of the day they are still pulling in huge ratings, massive revenues, and manage to sell out arenas at a torrid pace. And on the other hand, some of their newer gimmicks are amazing. The actual Money in the Bank match always proves to be one if not the most exciting matches of the year, the idea of cyber sunday was great as it let the fans see the matches they wanted (granted there would just be 3 scripts written up, but still) and the new guest host gimmick is pretty cool, as you get to see some fresh faces on raw that you wouldn't usually expect to see until wrestlemania rolled around.

All-in-all, times change. With the internet rumors running rampant, it can be very difficult to surprise ones audience as easily as it was done in the "Attitude" era. So maybe Vince needs to do a little improvising during the shows, so what. At the end of the day, he's still bringing and intriguing product that has the ability to draw around 5 million viewers every week. And even though you're complaining about the current events, you're still keeping up with them...which at the end of the day is putting cash in VKM's pocket.
 
He's not the only fan getting disillusioned.

This weeks TNA Impact got a 1.3 not bad when compared with Smackdown's 1.8. Sure Raw got a high rating this week but only because they spent what was surely a huge fee to get Shaq to host, since you don't make much money outside of ad breaks it's hardly a fair trade off.

Reminds me of the desperate times in WCW when Bischoff brought in KISS and Megadeth.
 
Blah blah blah...... seriously? I wish all of you dick magnets would quit bitching and complaining about the WWE and how terrible this is, or that is, or whatever. GET A FREAKIN' LIFE SPOODBEEST!

Hmmm really I'm usually not one to complain, I was asking does their staff sometimes annoy people. You are the one complaining about the posters on this site XD lol your awesome. You should earn a metal for just being that awesome. I wasn't complaining, in fact I barely ever complain about the product, you need to open your eyes and read more. I like the product and barely ever bitch, it's just that their staff annoys me at times so what, you got a problem with that?
 
It drives me crazy at some of the current storylines!!!

1-CHRIS JERICHO deserves to be fighting for the title....I like Big Show too! BUT, these 2 should be fighting in singles matches!!!!

2-I'm sick of CENA, ORTON, & HHH always fighting for the title....just like I got sick of 'Taker, Edge, & Batista always fighting for the title on Smackdown a while back!!!

3-PLUS, what happened to MVP's face push???

4-Beth Phoenix just came back after a long disappearance!!!

5-I DO NOT WANT another DX reunion!!!! Shawn deserves better than to act like an idiot alongside HHH!!! It's stupid! Shawn should be fighting for the title!!! WOW, what a foreign concept!!!! I really hope the writers/McMahons, HHH, and the bookers will read this and get the picture!!!

6-In the next year, I want to see the following fighting for the titles:

RAW: HBK, Mark Henry, Ted Dibiase, Evan Bourne, and Jack Swagger
Smackdown: Y2J, Rey Mysterio, CM Punk, and Kane
ECW: William Regal, Christian (who should turn heel), & Goldust


WOW, how about this rant!!!
Hope ya'll enjoyed it!
 
It drives me crazy at some of the current storylines!!!

Ok explain.

1-CHRIS JERICHO deserves to be fighting for the title....I like Big Show too! BUT, these 2 should be fighting in singles matches!!!!

But there are plenty of good people fighting in single matches. Guys like Orton,Cena,MVP,Swagger,Bourne,Mysterio,Hardy,Christian etc. If Show and Jericho weren't in the tag division who would be? They have three tag teams besides them, Cryme Tyme, Hart Dynasty, and Legacy. None of those guys draw so yeah Big Show and Jericho should stay in the tag division for now.

2-I'm sick of CENA, ORTON, & HHH always fighting for the title....just like I got sick of 'Taker, Edge, & Batista always fighting for the title on Smackdown a while back!!!

Orton and HHH have been fighting for the title for awhile but its because they are currently in a very personal feud. Cena hasn't consistently been in the title picture since Wrestlemania. Get your facts straight.

3-PLUS, what happened to MVP's face push???

The crowd didn't care about him.

4-Beth Phoenix just came back after a long disappearance!!!

Without Santino she was boring.


5-I DO NOT WANT another DX reunion!!!! Shawn deserves better than to act like an idiot alongside HHH!!! It's stupid! Shawn should be fighting for the title!!! WOW, what a foreign concept!!!! I really hope the writers/McMahons, HHH, and the bookers will read this and get the picture!!!

Shawn doesn't want the title. The schedule would kill his body. DX is fun and another tag team. Plus it would keep Triple H from fighting for the title. Which is what you want right?

6-In the next year, I want to see the following fighting for the titles:

I'm listening


Doesn't want it

Mark Henry

He is too boring

Ted Dibiase

If he can get away from Legacy.

Evan Bourne

He hasn't even gotten a midcard position yet. He isn't even close to being ready.

Jack Swagger

Not ready either. His ECW title reign was decent but he wouldn't survive on Raw yet.


But hes in a brand new tag team.

Rey Mysterio

The current Intercontinental Champion. His last main event title reign was a fail remember.


He just lost the title you dumbass. Are you really already bitching about him not fighting for the title.


He's past that. He is at the stage in his career where he should put people over.

William Regal

I like Regal an ECW title reign wouldn't be bad but I doubt the crowd would care.

Christian (who should turn heel)

He is the ECW champion. He is the biggest draw on the show. No way he turns heel.


lol. Jobber


WOW, how about this rant!!!
Hope ya'll enjoyed it!

No I didn't it made me wanna punch babys. BTW you said you were driven crazy at the current storylines then you didn't mention one storyline. All you mentioned were current stars pushes or lack thereof. Not one storyline. You don't even know what a storyline is you boob.
 
wow just wow.i pretty much have to agree with everybody on this....what in the world was the point of this thread?so you could draw negative attention towards yourself?what did you expect everybody to be on the same boat as you.i can see some people are, the the majority of us are not! Its like you posted this so vince would read it and say to himself...gosh,you know, this kid has a point.WHAT WRONG WITH ME GAHHHHHH*jumps from his wwe headquarters window*no vince is going to read this...if he ever did and say.who the fuck are you to question the product iv ownd for decades, who the fuck are you to tell me how to run MY business.carlito would then come at you.take a bite out of his apple spit in your face and say....now thats cool.wwe is where it needs to be now.live with it or shut the fuck up!
 
Last night was a good show... The return of the masterpiece, HHH vs. Orton over with, Shaq and the Big Show feuding. More midcard exposure, this developing in vintage WWE. Homeboy was nuts for complaining about Vince. If anything is killing pro wrestling, is TNA! It's like having the Oakland Raiders of Pro wrestling. Bunch of old timers who want money and power. Now your complaining how Vince is running things! Vince is the reason Pro Wrestling is still alive. Can you imagine if WCW was still alive. Wrestling would be dead, because it would only be big names, no Chris Jericho, or John Cena. Ric Flair would still be main eventing, and Bill Goldberg would be on his 10th long going winning streaks. Vince can rebuild and produce an amazing product. He can and has used realism, so Mr. I can't believe what has happen to professional wrestling! Realize one thing, Vince brought Pro Wrestling to where it could of never gone.
 
For me storylines in Professional Wrestling are not that good anymore whether it is TNA, NWA, WWE, or anywhere else that I have watched so I usually don't pay attention to them. I usually just wait for a match to come up and watch while trying to ignore Michael Cole.
 
Last night was a good show... The return of the masterpiece, HHH vs. Orton over with, Shaq and the Big Show feuding. More midcard exposure, this developing in vintage WWE. Homeboy was nuts for complaining about Vince. If anything is killing pro wrestling, is TNA! It's like having the Oakland Raiders of Pro wrestling. Bunch of old timers who want money and power. Now your complaining how Vince is running things! Vince is the reason Pro Wrestling is still alive. Can you imagine if WCW was still alive. Wrestling would be dead, because it would only be big names, no Chris Jericho, or John Cena. Ric Flair would still be main eventing, and Bill Goldberg would be on his 10th long going winning streaks. Vince can rebuild and produce an amazing product. He can and has used realism, so Mr. I can't believe what has happen to professional wrestling! Realize one thing, Vince brought Pro Wrestling to where it could of never gone.

The fans are actually the reason why Pro Wrestling is alive. Not necessarily Vince. As long as Pro Wrestling is around, the fans will always watch. They have proven that no matter how good or how bad the WWE is, they will always watch it. Sure, the numbers fluctuate, but Vince is absolutely correct in his philosophy that "I will TELL you what You want to see, and You will watch it!". Only in wrestling can one get away with that mentality and still make money.

If WCW had survived and WWE had gone out of business, then the fans would have stuck with WCW, and it would be alive and well.

As the saying goes with fans on here as it pertains to wrestling ... "Wrestling, I wish I could quit you!"
 
For every fan that gets turned off by wrestling due to content, interest, other programming, passing, etc there is 1 person who becomes a fan for those same reasons.

Vince has a very profitable company. Why would he change a very profittable situation? He was nearly bankrupt 15 years ago and he changed because he knew he had to. Now wrestling has a solid niche that can have down times and up times and he still will be profitable. I can't imagine him changing the formula unless he starts losing lots of money.
 

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