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Seriously it's been said a thousand times.

Wade barret vs Undertaker.

or heck do HHH VS Undertaker at wm28, wm29 do wade barret and let barret win and become the top dog of wwe as a face
 
Ok so here's the deal a few threads on here have got me thinking of possible storylines for taker at wrestlemania that in theory have him lose.

Now for a second lets say they do for some crazy reason decide to have taker lose i have thought of two guys who could greatly benefit from it as far as a heel persona goes. These men are big Ezekiel Jackson and Wade Barrett. We'll start with big zeke first.

Ezekiel Jackson: Have zeke win at over the limit as the start of his push have him dominate the midcard scene for about three or four months then elevate him to the main event somehow money in the bank perhaps? Wait about two to three more months have him drop the IC championship cash in MITB on the same night he drops the IC title (maybe the rumble) and hold the WHC dominating the main event scene comes out about a month before wrestlemania says nobody can stop him he is the most dominating monster of all time something to that effect then the gong hits and out comes taker and he says a few words like how he wants one more run at the WHC zeke says something along the lines of how hes accomplished everything in a short time except one thing he then says he wants a match at WM against taker where he will squash taker like a bug sets up monster vs monster match with zeke winning retaining the belt and taking the streak from taker. It would set up zeke as a monster i mean MONSTER heel.

Wade Barrett: (this starts at the rumble) have barrett win and for a while tease us with him choosing which championship he wants then about a month after the rumble (month and a half before WM gives wwe time to get everything for their championship matches together) taker makes his big return as hes addressing the crowd have Barret intrupt him and say something like " after much consideration i have made my choice as to who I want to face at Wrestlemania i dont want championships i have enough time for that taker i want your streak.Then have Barrett mock undertakers health for like two weeks and say he just don't think taker has what it takes anymore that hes washed up and old get under takers skin till taker accepts maybe by tombstoning barrett after hes " taken all he can handle". then at mania have barrett win (maybe with a dirty move note i said maybe) effectively putting him over as the man to end takers streak and the biggest heel of all time.

So what do you guys think could it possibly happen?

Would you like to see it?

if so how would you book it?
 
From an overall perspective, I'd much rather see Wade Barrett take on Taker than Big Zeke. Overall, Barrett is an infinitely better wrestler, he's significantly younger than Zeke, more athletic and has the promo ability to get fans interested in a match with Taker. Barrett is no longer in the main event picture at this time, but his time as leader of Nexus and his feuds with John Cena & Randy Orton show that Barrett has the potential to be a main event level talent in the long run a little later on down the line.

To be fair, Big Zeke is one of the better powerhouse wrestlers to come along in a long time. He's a big, thick 300 pound slab of muscle with legitimately freakish strength to go along with it. And, generally speaking, he's somewhat decent on the microphone. He actually had a pretty decent match against Big Show on SmackDown! last Friday. It was about 3.5 minutes and while it was far from an all time classic, you've got to compliment someone that can get halfway decent match out of the Big Show. The thing with Big Zeke is, in my opinion, there's just not really any long term money to be made off the guy. In some ways, I can buy him as a guy that, like Big Show, could be a staple in the WWE mid-card scene and can provide some memorable moments here and there. I just hope that they don't make the same mistake as they did with Show and give Zeke World Title runs. In order for Big Zeke to even come across as someone that most fans would be interested in seeing take on The Undertaker at WM, he'd have to get a push and be booked along similar lines of John Cena. He'd have to be pushed to the moon & stars, he'd have to get huge victories over big names in the WWE and do it decisively. And, even then, there's no real guarantee that people are really gonna get excited. With the past three WrestleManias, the WWE has set an extremely high standard for Taker's matches. All three were huge, big money matches and, quite frankly, Zeke isn't in that league and it'd take longer than the next 11 months or so to get him at that league.

I don't look for it to be Wade Barrett either, though I think he has a much better shot and would give an altogether better match against Taker. For Barrett to be a viable challenger, the WWE is gonna really have to put some focus on him over the next 6 months.
 
Wade Barrett. lets face it, hes a better wrestler than Zeke, plus the WWE is more high on Barrett. though I think there gonna let HHH have another go at 'Taker and its gonna be 'Taker's last match before retiring at a 20 - 0 streak. so neither man really has a chance at getting a shot at 'Taker at 'Mania. but I would like a young guy like Barrett or Zeke face him even if its his last match another HHH match would be awfully predictable. besides Barrett would totally put on a better match with 'Taker then Zeke would.
 
Id choose barrett because he is the overall better performer out of the 2. I think he has the potential to be something great, its just gunna take alot more time. I just personally wouldnt want Taker to lose to or face someone on his level.

Look at the past wrestlers he took on at Mania recently

HHH
HBK
HBK
EDGE
BATISTA
HENRY - This shouldnt be there
ORTON
FLAIR

Those guys , besides henry are the top dogs , and most are legends or will be some day. Thats why I dont think he will ever lose at Mania. If guys like that could not beat taker , is it really believable that a young guy can beat him? Not in my eyes. Also , now its about the streak being a money making match, and they need a top name to get that. Only logical person left to face taker is Cena , and cena should job and let taker go out on top. Just my opinion. None of those guys should ever face taker. Its a step down for him
 
Right this got me thinking as we all know The Undertaker is 19-0 at Wrestlemania. There's rumour's going around saying Taker won't be back until next year when Wrestlemania kick's off again. (Here's my question do you think Paul Bearer will return with the undertaker when he return's to the WWE). We all know this is properly going to be Undertaker's last match when he return's. I hope Paul Bearer does return with the undertaker it would make for a fitting ending to a great career and one of the greatest wrestler's the WWE has ever seen.:worship:

O yeah if the Taker vs HHH match at WM28 doesn't go ahead what match would you think would be a fitting tribute for the undertaker's last match along with Paul Bearer. ????
 
I am actually gonna go ahead and say Kane, I don't why, but I feel Kane would fit beautifully into the role of having the last match with his brother. (If it is his last match.) I honestly think that Trip and Undertaker should square off at Summerslam as their blowoff match from Mania. But once again I would go ahead and pick just because the build ups for their last two Mania matches were spectacular and even if the matches weren't as memorable the feud itself was quite amazing.
 
I know that im going to get shot down, and get all the dont stupid and he is contracted to TNA and he is semi retired but what the hell I would love to see Taker v Mankind on last time@ WM28! There I said it! Right im of to watch HIAC on you tube and get all nostalgic lol
 
i think it will be a good idea if Paul Bearer returns for the last match of The Undertaker and his opponent will be HHH it's 90% that WWE will go again in a match between the two at WM 28 (The Last Match Of The Phenom) RIP
 
Hey great idea to the guy who suggested Mankind who I feel is probably The Undertaker's greatest nemesis throughout his entire career with a close second going to Steve Austin.
But as much as I hate to say it, that match will never happen. Although I'd die to see old school Mankind come out with Uncle Paul wearing the old brown get up with the brown tape around his ring and middle finger once again. I honestly think these two could have a good match together as they are both beat to shit physically so it wouldn't be a scientific match but it would be an old fashioned slugfest like only these two had. Possibly one last Hell in a Cell match.

Ok time to get real here. I think Kane would most likely be the most fitting opponent for Taker to face in his final match as these two have good chemistry and a great story thats been playing out for years. But what would set it over the top would be if they pulled a suprise by having Kane come out in his trademark mask to his old music so everyone who has been continuously saying for the past ten years or so since he lost it, that he needs to go back to that gimmick will finally be satisfied!
(I'll admit that I would freak out big time too)

Unfortunately, its looking like Trips will get the honor again since he nearly killed Taker at Mania by the way Taker was being stretchered out and the way HHH destroyed him near the end of the match. Hopefully like someone said earlier, HHH and Taker will face off before hand or HHH gets back into a feud with someone else like Sheamus who desperately needs something to make him look like a legitimate threat again.
 
Here's one from deep,deep left field..... Rey Mysterio!!

I think it was reported on WZ.com that a new Rey Mysterio is on the way,and Rey has been rumored to be on the verge of retirement for quite some time.
Have same scenario as WM26,career vs. streak....Taker wins go off into the sunset,BUT not before Rey does what I have heard is the traditional end of a rivalry with mexican wrestlers,the unmasking and giving it to the opponent,remember back in WCW he did it when he lost it in a match against Kevin Nash during the heyday of the nWo.
 
i want undertakers last match to be at survivor series after he goes 20-0 at wrestlemania. go out where he started at survivor series. i think i would want ted dibiase to take him out because his dad brought in taker. it would be really cool to see it happen. as for the way to take him out for good... there is no way!! this is one thing that ive been thinking of since hbk left. undertaker has been killed off so many ways and everytime it was thought he was gone but came back. so i think that kane needs to be hired by ted to help him get rid of undertaker. it is going to be a hard thing to do since the pg era piece of crap. but it should be during a casket match. and then when undertaker is in it kane should wheel it out to the ramp and so his little pyro thing set the whole casket on fire and have a promo thing of undertaker on the screen like in the undertaker vs yokozuna casket match at royal rumble 94
 
I know that this is a long shot like Mick Foley, but I'd like to see Undertaker and HBK one last time. I know that HBK has no interest in getting back into wrestling, but since their last two battles were epic, that would be my dream match. Also, I too think it's fitting that Paul Bearer and Kane be there to witness his last match...with the urn!!
 
As much as I'd love to see it, this won't happen. I would absolutely love to see him face Cena. Since that won't happen, I wanna see him face Kane. And yes, everybody's saying that's what they wanna see, and there's a reason for that. That reason is because, with a good build-up, if they give Kane a bit of a push in December leading up to Wrestlemania, the two would put on one HELL of a match. While I wanna see that very badly, I think it's pretty clear that he's going to face Triple H for the third time. It's been stated that he's probably only ready for one more match in his whole career, so if that's true, and as I recall, Triple H even said himself "When you come back, I'll be waiting" so WWE can't just leave that happening, ESPECIALLY with those two.
 
I Think he should loose at WM, and when his opponent is celebrating and taker is laying in the middle of the ring; a bright light from the heavens shine down on taker, then smoke would start rising feeling the ring and when the smoke clears, undertaker is not there and he will be not seen or heard from again. This would symbolize the end of his career.
 
The Undertaker is a great wrestler, but he's always been one of those guys who can't rise above his opponent's skill level. Guys like Shawn Michaels or Kurt Angle could give anyone the match of their career, but The Undertaker can't do that. He needs to work with another skilled wrestler in order to have a great match.

I could see Kane being well suited as the UT's last opponent on a literary level. The two have one of the longest, most complicated feuds/partnerships in modern wrestling history. But honestly, that match has been done to death and who really wants to see it again. All the drama and anticipation would end the second the bell rung. They had several high profile matches last year, and although both guys put in alot of effort, the matches were nothing to write home about.

HHH is probably the best option. Their match at this years Wrestlemania stole the show, and set up a good rematch. UT got the pinfall, but HHH beat him so bad he could barely leave the ring. Aside from Cena, they are the two most successful wrestlers left in the WWE, and the heat pretty much generates itself.

If not HHH, I think the choices are pretty limited. The "streak match" at Wrestlemania is probably the most important match of the year, and the WWE isn't gonna waste it on anyone who isn't an extremely credible threat. Since Cena is out, the only other person I think fits that bill is Randy Orton.

But if you wanna go for the wild card, and because many things can change in a year, I think Kurt Angle or Mick Foley would also make suitable opponents. Kurt because he has always been booked as an unbeatable wrestling machine and Mankind, because of the history between he and the UT, and the promise of both guys basically killing each other to deliver a great match.
 
I Think he should loose at WM, and when his opponent is celebrating and taker is laying in the middle of the ring; a bright light from the heavens shine down on taker, then smoke would start rising feeling the ring and when the smoke clears, undertaker is not there and he will be not seen or heard from again. This would symbolize the end of his career.

That is an awful idea, just saying, why would they have him lose, build that streak up for like 2 decades, and then just have him lose it, and go out like now, no dis-respect, but that would be a really stupid way for VKM to end one of the greatest of all-time's career.
 
-tough one. i dont see bearer running around with taker again. think we saw the last of him after he was pushed off the ladders by kane. as for undertakers last match, probly triple hhh (once again). though if steve austin were to face taker that would be fairly awesome, or both hhh and steve austin.
-HBK wont return to face taker again so lets get that out of the air right now.
-sting even though it wont happen would still be a match that would be cool to see.
 
The Undertaker is a great wrestler, but he's always been one of those guys who can't rise above his opponent's skill level. Guys like Shawn Michaels or Kurt Angle could give anyone the match of their career, but The Undertaker can't do that. He needs to work with another skilled wrestler in order to have a great match.

all due respect, but undertaker tends to be better then his opponents so saying that he needs a skilled opponent is wrong to say. undertaker still has lots of skill, just doesnt have the body to do it, but thats cause of the matches and what he has done in general in the wwe. he does good for a man of his size and that is something you have to utilize as a wrestler is your size. undertaker learned to do that so your comment is far fetched.
 
i think it will be a good idea if Paul Bearer returns for the last match of The Undertaker and his opponent will be HHH it's 90% that WWE will go again in a match between the two at WM 28 (The Last Match Of The Phenom) RIP

Where do you get that percent from? thin air? lol
That's just assumptions HBK has 2 matches in a row so so must Triple H. Trips has already faced him twice serves no purpose to do it a third time.

They can have there blowoff match throughout the year and if infact Mania next year turns out to be his next match and not b4 it should be someone different but still deserving of the hype (not counting Cena since he's booked).

Unless ofcourse they could work in a Triple Threat match for the title between Taker vs Rock Vs Cena. 3 different generations come together
Old School (well tail end) vs Attitude vs New School

I'd go with someone new like Jericho, CM Punk, John Morrison or actually give Dibiase a rub and have him be the final match which would come full circle

Ted Dibiase brought him in, his son sends him off. Bring back Brother Love as Dibiase's manager and Paul Bearer as Undertakers.

no fear of Taker losing, and as i said we come full circle.
 
all due respect, but undertaker tends to be better then his opponents so saying that he needs a skilled opponent is wrong to say. undertaker still has lots of skill, just doesnt have the body to do it, but thats cause of the matches and what he has done in general in the wwe. he does good for a man of his size and that is something you have to utilize as a wrestler is your size. undertaker learned to do that so your comment is far fetched.

I don't disagree that he has plenty of skill, but if you look at Shawn Michael's matches, they are consistently great. Even when he had an opponent who was as limited as Chris Masters or Hulk Hogan, Shawn still managed to pull of a really good match. The Undertaker has generally not performed at that level. He's had amazing matches, such as at No Way Out 2006 with Kurt Angle, or WM 25 and 26 against Shawn. But then you look at all those matches with Heidenreich, Snitsky, Mark Henry, etc, and you know what I mean.

The Undertaker is without a doubt a great wrestler, I would never argue otherwise. But it's no guarantee he'll be able to pull off a great match without an equally skilled opponent. I'm just saying, if they're gonna retire one of the most memorable wrestlers of all time, the WWE should make sure they give him a final match with someone who can be counted on to deliver.

But anyway, that's just my opinion and I could always be wrong.
 
Well first off I should say locking Cena/Rock a year in advance was an absolutely stupid move. There's no way to build it for a full year, and either man would have been a great option to end Taker's career with, especially Cena.

Here's the facts, he absolutely isn't going to (nor should he) end the streak. He will go 20-0 and retire. Now, just because he can put on a good match with someone doesn't mean thats the right person to end it with. This match is significant, it isn't just a way to get to 20-0, even if he wins he is still essentially giving the rub to someone else's career and "passing the torch". So while I'd love to see a nostaligia act like Mankind or something it does nothing for Foley's career.

However, the biggest and most important part of WM is that it needs to draw money. This won't be accomplished with any current members of the roster except HHH or Cena, in my opinion. While Vince seems to have some love affair with Orton, I don't buy the hype. I don't think he is anywhere near Taker's level and doens't deserve his last match. So...Cena's booked already, and I think it's lame to have Taker/Kane at mania twice, Taker/HBk twice, and Taker/HHH for a THIRD time, so if it's at all avoidable, I think they really need someone new for him that is going to be memorable AND draw money. If we are going by the current roster, the ONLY guy that even comes close in my book is CM Punk.

I think the safer and better bet though for sure is to try and pick up an attitude era star to finish up with, likely options being Austin, Angle, Foley, or STING. That's it. If you can't get one of those guys, this match is not going to live up to what it could be, there simply aren't enough guys with big name value now, who could put up a match of the necessary quality level to make it worthy of Taker's retirement.
 
The Undertaker, physically, is broken down. Frankly, he's just not the man he was 5 years ago. If he has a match at a future Wrestlemania, it needs to be against someone who could carry a lot of the burden. No, I'm not saying "carry him through the match." But, if the person can lift a bit of the burden from Taker, then the match could be amazing. Look at the HBK matches, for instance. The only people on the active roster that I can see being able to do that, while still allowing for a match that feels like an Undertaker match would be either CM Punk or, if he's in WWE at the time, Chris Jericho.
 
That is an awful idea, just saying, why would they have him lose, build that streak up for like 2 decades, and then just have him lose it, and go out like now, no dis-respect, but that would be a really stupid way for VKM to end one of the greatest of all-time's career.


You can take your -rep and shove it buddy. You -rep for telling how i would like to see it end. but no dis-respect :banghead:

All great "OUTLAWS" eventually falls. It's stupid to have UT win at WM and then retire and ride off into the sunset on his black horse. He should pass the torch to another great upcoming superstar.
 

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