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WWE SummerFest 2015 LD - "What do you mean I'm wrong?!"

How much of a fucking chore was last night? How much worse could it have looked when put back to back with NXT?

A couple of paint by numbers boring as shit bouts between Otron - Sheamus and the triple threat, A totally useless Rusev - Ziggler match, A brutal but sheer nonsensical Lesnar - Taker match, which features what had to be the most completely obvious and illogical reffing ive ever seen, a really good but woefully overbooked / silly ending in Cena-Rollins, and the "Divas revolution" still being put in the piss break slot, and having its status solidified as such by Team Bella being on offense for what felt like a fucking hour.


Man, what a fantastic tag title match though :lmao:


NXT on the other hand.....One of the top ten hottest crowds ever, good, logical wrestling, and decisive, clean finishes which saw heroes persevere to win in the end.
 
I quite liked Summerslam this year, New Day finally getting those belts back along with very excellent matches from Cena/Rollins (despite Steward telegraphing the ending horribly), Owens/Cesaro, and a surprisingly entertaining Brock/Taker match, I'd put it on an even level of NXT maybe slightly below. I fast forwarded through Sheamus/Orton and Ziggler/Rusev and the Divas match bored me to tears.

If you fast forwarded a third of the fucking show how can it be as good or near takeover???? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
For me, Takeoer was leaps and bounds better than SummerSlam.

I enjoyed the Amell match, Lesnar/Taker was good, Cesaro/Owens was good and Cena/Rollins was OK until that shit finish, but I honestly couldn't have given 2 shits about the rest of the show. I'm finding more and more since NXT has revamped its roster with all the big names, that I have very little emotional investment in a large portion of the main roster and the angles WWE is running with said large portion.

I legitimately cared about the outcome of just about every match on Takeover, and felt every match told a meaningful story. Seriously, I wouldn't lose sleep over never seeing Sheamus on TV again, let alone who wins Sheamus vs. Orton Part 56.

I was disappointed with SS, and considering the amount of hypeWWE attempted to create leading up to it, that was a pretty big letdown.
 
This reeked of Kevin Dunn seeing the overwhelmingly positive response to Takeover & being like "Oh yeah Hunter, let me show you how to book a wrestling show!" & then proceed to over book the fuck out the show & give the two biggest matches of the night stupid swerving nonsense finishes. I usually watch the replay afterwards, & legit forgot Sheamus/Orton, & Rusev/Ziggy even had a matches.

The John Stewart interference may be the most ridiculous nonsense I've seen come out of WWE in awhile. Apparently John Cena can overcome everything Owens threw at him, but he can't overcome a weak as fuck chair shot from JOHN FUCKING STEWART?! Seriously, Vince, Dunn, & anybody else involved in that idea need to go fuck themselves.
 
Lost in all of the flim flam is the fact that Amell put on easily the most prolific celeb performance of anyone to ever participate in something like this.


This motherfucker sold, did hope spots, a dive off the rope, gave a fucking hot tag....the shit was amazing.


GREAT fucking job. Big Show Vs Mayweather is still the best Celeb involved MATCH, but this was by miles the better single celeb performance
 
Amell is Casey Jones in the new TMNT movie which also happens to star Sheamus as Bebop (whuch might explain the goofy mohawk & septum piercing). I wouldn't mind seeing Amell back for another match, maybe one around the time TMNT2 is released... or WM.
 
This reeked of Kevin Dunn seeing the overwhelmingly positive response to Takeover & being like "Oh yeah Hunter, let me show you how to book a wrestling show!" & then proceed to over book the fuck out the show & give the two biggest matches of the night stupid swerving nonsense finishes. I usually watch the replay afterwards, & legit forgot Sheamus/Orton, & Rusev/Ziggy even had a matches.

The John Stewart interference may be the most ridiculous nonsense I've seen come out of WWE in awhile. Apparently John Cena can overcome everything Owens threw at him, but he can't overcome a weak as fuck chair shot from JOHN FUCKING STEWART?! Seriously, Vince, Dunn, & anybody else involved in that idea need to go fuck themselves.

This really, really wouldn't surprise me.

The Stewart stuff felt like bowing to an attempt at mainstream press, which I can understand, but in that match? Really?
 
What other match though? Stewart and Rollins is a thing. Why do it at all is the real question.
 
How much of a fucking chore was last night? How much worse could it have looked when put back to back with NXT?

A couple of paint by numbers boring as shit bouts between Otron - Sheamus and the triple threat, A totally useless Rusev - Ziggler match, A brutal but sheer nonsensical Lesnar - Taker match, which features what had to be the most completely obvious and illogical reffing ive ever seen, a really good but woefully overbooked / silly ending in Cena-Rollins, and the "Divas revolution" still being put in the piss break slot, and having its status solidified as such by Team Bella being on offense for what felt like a fucking hour.


Man, what a fantastic tag title match though :lmao:


NXT on the other hand.....One of the top ten hottest crowds ever, good, logical wrestling, and decisive, clean finishes which saw heroes persevere to win in the end.

Everything about TakeOver was paint by numbers other than the Women's match which yes, was definitely the best match of the entire weekend. And one of the top ten hottest crowds? Are you just judging it by your experience as a part of the crowd or have you watched the show? It wasn't any hotter than the Summerslam crowd.

TakeOver was good but you're drastically over-rating it. Both shows are totally forgettable. Other than Bayley's moment. That's really the only reason I could understanding rating TakeOver higher than SS.
 
Everything about TakeOver was paint by numbers .

As well as all solid, logical, entertaining. Nothing ridiculous which ranged to LOL silly to downright horrifying nonsensical


was definitely the best match of the entire year

fixed it for ya

or have you watched the show? It wasn't any hotter than the Summerslam crowd.

Did you watch it with the sound on?

The crowd popped and reacted to literally every thing on the show, while SummerSlam sat on its hands for the most part. Like there is literally not one thing even close to correct about this statement. I watched it, and the crowd was BETTER on tv than it was in person.


During the show, I had to ask shocky how it was on TV, since it was so loud all around me it all sort of became static.


TakeOver was good but you're drastically over-rating it. Both shows are totally forgettable. That's really the only reason I could understanding rating TakeOver higher than SS.

Literally every single person on planet earth who watched both disagrees with you. But alright, enjoy that I guess :lmao:


Did I say it was the greatest show in the history of wrestling? Fuck no, but it was easily B+ to A- range, while SS is pretty much looked at as C - or D+ by the majority of people who watched it, and watched both.
 
Everything about TakeOver was paint by numbers other than the Women's match which yes, was definitely the best match of the entire weekend. And one of the top ten hottest crowds? Are you just judging it by your experience as a part of the crowd or have you watched the show? It wasn't any hotter than the Summerslam crowd.

TakeOver was good but you're drastically over-rating it. Both shows are totally forgettable. Other than Bayley's moment. That's really the only reason I could understanding rating TakeOver higher than SS.

Of course TakeOver was paint by numbers, it was a show based upon their developmental brand, their "C" show more or less. I wouldn't expect an overly convoluted clusterfuck on this program. I would expect a high quality, if not somewhat simplistic, program, and that's exactly what we got. And in my mind it far exceeded Summerslam, the (arguably) second biggest show of the year on the main brand/roster.

On Take Over, the matches were better. The storyline s didn't make my brain hurt. The crowd was far more electric. I'm not one to come on these forums and complain about the show, especially not knowing where certain things are heading. But for me, Summerslam was a colossal disappointment, and it paled in comparison to TakeOver.
 
You never struck me as the grumpy old man type.

I am to a degree. I have a phone that is only for talking/texting and a 2nd generation iPod. It's not so much grumpy as much as shaking my head. The idea of people feeling the need to take 193 pictures of themselves every single day and having a freaking stick that they purchased to make said pictures look better is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of.

I also can't stand the concept of being famous for the sake of being famous. People like the Kardashians are some of the worst influences in American culture and have pushed this idea that if you just let cameras follow you around and sound stupid, you can make a fortune without really trying and without any real skill of your own.

So yeah it's kind of grumpy old man, but it's more along the lines of I appreciate someone working hard to achieve their success instead of achieving it by acting like a self-obsessed moron.
 
Duh. Good thing I stayed away from the LD. So much negativity.

The show was one of the better Summerslams in the last decade. Nearly every match, except the IC Title three-way got time. The Cena/Rollins, Cesaro/Owens and Taker/Lesnar match had some great action and drama. The tag title match was glorious. Stephen Amell was awesome. The crowd was hot and chanting throughout the 4+ hours of wrestling. It was a well-hyped, well-presented show that was only hampered by the overbooking in a couple of the matches.

Rollins/Cena produced another amazing match. Seriously, these 2 have been paired against each other countless times dating back to the Shield days, and never once have I been bored during their matches. Their original match on a 2013 Smackdown, their feud in the fall last year including the Tables match at TLC, few other Raw matches and now 2 great matches in the last month alone. Compare that with something like Cena-Orton where we shiver at the name of that match happening again. Rollins is an even bigger star coming out of Summerslam and now that he holds both titles, his gloating promo would be awesome to see.

Before Summerslam, majority of the people had doubts about the Taker-Lesnar match in-ring and quality-wise based upon their disappointing Wrestlemania encounter. Finish aside, the two went out and delivered a classic brawl with some highly entertaining moments up until the final sequence. And as has been said previously, if only they had let us seen the tap-out in the original instance, the finish would have felt FAR better, even brilliant maybe. Atleast now there is no ambiguity that Taker is indeed a heel at this point (just writing that sentence felt so weird) and that Brock is the cheated, defiant babyface in the story.

Good or bad, I'm intrigued to see where the Taker character goes from here. If this is really his retirement tour, it is most curious that would turn him heel at this stage. I'd reserve my judgement till I see the whole story play out and not jump the gun and pretend to be an expert on why this is the most nonsensical angle in history.
 

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