Wrestlemania XXX Aftermath & Discussion

[NegativeFeedback]

With Punk going away, Batista failing as a face, and more, I think WWE really needs to damage control the whole card. This is how I'm thinking it should go

1. Daniel Bryan vs. Batista vs. Randy Orton (c)
Forget about Bryan/Triple H. Have Triple H say he won't wait until Mania, he'll face Bryan on Raw. If Bryan wins, he gets a title shot. Roman then comes in and costs Triple H the match. Bryan, Orton and Batista then feud for Mania.

2. Roman Reigns vs. Triple H
Roman and H had a staredown on Smackdown a few weeks back. You could have the Authority send the Shield to do their bidding and Roman turns on the Shield, subsequently turning on the Authority. After costing H a match, Triple H tries to "get rid of" Roman at Mania. This is basically giving the Batista push for Roman.

3. The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar

It's set in stone, can't do anything about it now.

4. John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt

Pretty much the same as above. You can't have two PPVs with Wyatt costing Cena the title, and not build towards Cena's payoff.

5. Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose (c)

Dean can blame Seth for Roman's betrayal, and Seth is just sick of his shit, so he turns on him too. This leads to a US title match.

6. The Big Show vs. Antonio Cesaro

You can have Cesaro stay as a heel, but it seems like he's turning face, so maybe have Big Show perform his yearly turn by siding with Zeb against Cesaro? Either way, what's important is that I really want to see Cesaro swing Big Show for a huge WM moment.

7. Natalya, Summer Rae, Naomi, Cameron and The Bellas vs. AJ, Paige, Emma, Alicia Fox, Aksana and Tamina

It's not a match any of us really want to see, but they gotta push Total Divas somehow. The 6 total divas against the other 6 including Paige's debut. The TD can lose, making for some drama on the show. Let Paige get the pin too for a solid debut and to set up AJ's newest rival.

8. Sheamus vs. Kane

Both of them are too important to be left off the card. Easily set this up by having Sheamus save Bryan from a Kane/Authority beatdown.

9. 30-Man Battle Royal for the tag titles

Have Hogan announce that in honor of WM30, 30 men will vie it out in the biggest battle royal in Mania history. Like that, WWE gets plenty of guys on the card:
• The Brotherhood • Air Boom • Ryback and Axel • Hawkins and Ryder • Rey and Sin Cara
• New Age Outlaws • 3MB • Khali and Santino • Sandow and Christian • Young and Henry
• Los Matadores • The Usos • Otunga and JTG • The Miz and Ziggler • Woods and Truth

Kick-Off: Big E. Langston (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio

You can't really keep Del Rio off the card, but there's no room for him in the main event. He can do well as a really credible opponent for Big E, and for a solid Kick-Off match. Anyway, with PPVs now airing over the internet as part of the WWE Network, I think this kick-off show is kinda useless. They should just extend the time of the PPV.

The only guys who would be left off the card are:
• Bad News Barrett- He'll probably have some sort of segment on the show
• Jinder Mahal- He'll come out with 3MB.
• Harper and Rowan- They'll come out with Bray Wyatt.
• Fandango- He'll probably come out with Summer Rae.
• Tyson Kidd- He'll probably come out with Natalya.
• Yoshi, Jojo, Layla, Rosa, Ricardo and Ezekiel- All 6 have been MIA for months.
• Eva Marie- Kept off the show. Drama for TD with Eva being the only one out of the match.
• Jack Swagger- He should finally be punished for last year's pre-Mania DUI by keeping him off the card this year.
• Justin Gabriel, Titus O'Neil and Brouds Clay- No room for them.Better luck next year.

 

[Kidpolean]

With Punk going away, Batista failing as a face, and more, I think WWE really needs to damage control the whole card. This is how I'm thinking it should go

1. Daniel Bryan vs. Batista vs. Randy Orton (c)
Forget about Bryan/Triple H. Have Triple H say he won't wait until Mania, he'll face Bryan on Raw. If Bryan wins, he gets a title shot. Roman then comes in and costs Triple H the match. Bryan, Orton and Batista then feud for Mania.

2. Roman Reigns vs. Triple H
Roman and H had a staredown on Smackdown a few weeks back. You could have the Authority send the Shield to do their bidding and Roman turns on the Shield, subsequently turning on the Authority. After costing H a match, Triple H tries to "get rid of" Roman at Mania. This is basically giving the Batista push for Roman.

3. The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar

It's set in stone, can't do anything about it now.

4. John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt

Pretty much the same as above. You can't have two PPVs with Wyatt costing Cena the title, and not build towards Cena's payoff.

5. Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose (c)

Dean can blame Seth for Roman's betrayal, and Seth is just sick of his shit, so he turns on him too. This leads to a US title match.

6. The Big Show vs. Antonio Cesaro

You can have Cesaro stay as a heel, but it seems like he's turning face, so maybe have Big Show perform his yearly turn by siding with Zeb against Cesaro? Either way, what's important is that I really want to see Cesaro swing Big Show for a huge WM moment.

7. Natalya, Summer Rae, Naomi, Cameron and The Bellas vs. AJ, Paige, Emma, Alicia Fox, Aksana and Tamina

It's not a match any of us really want to see, but they gotta push Total Divas somehow. The 6 total divas against the other 6 including Paige's debut. The TD can lose, making for some drama on the show. Let Paige get the pin too for a solid debut and to set up AJ's newest rival.

8. Sheamus vs. Kane

Both of them are too important to be left off the card. Easily set this up by having Sheamus save Bryan from a Kane/Authority beatdown.

9. 30-Man Battle Royal for the tag titles

Have Hogan announce that in honor of WM30, 30 men will vie it out in the biggest battle royal in Mania history. Like that, WWE gets plenty of guys on the card:
• The Brotherhood • Air Boom • Ryback and Axel • Hawkins and Ryder • Rey and Sin Cara
• New Age Outlaws • 3MB • Khali and Santino • Sandow and Christian • Young and Henry
• Los Matadores • The Usos • Otunga and JTG • The Miz and Ziggler • Woods and Truth

Kick-Off: Big E. Langston (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio

You can't really keep Del Rio off the card, but there's no room for him in the main event. He can do well as a really credible opponent for Big E, and for a solid Kick-Off match. Anyway, with PPVs now airing over the internet as part of the WWE Network, I think this kick-off show is kinda useless. They should just extend the time of the PPV.

The only guys who would be left off the card are:
• Bad News Barrett- He'll probably have some sort of segment on the show
• Jinder Mahal- He'll come out with 3MB.
• Harper and Rowan- They'll come out with Bray Wyatt.
• Fandango- He'll probably come out with Summer Rae.
• Tyson Kidd- He'll probably come out with Natalya.
• Yoshi, Jojo, Layla, Rosa, Ricardo and Ezekiel- All 6 have been MIA for months.
• Eva Marie- Kept off the show. Drama for TD with Eva being the only one out of the match.
• Jack Swagger- He should finally be punished for last year's pre-Mania DUI by keeping him off the card this year.
• Justin Gabriel, Titus O'Neil and Brouds Clay- No room for them.Better luck next year.

damage control? We don't even know the REAL card...the rumored card is what people have a problem with, we don't know the stipulations or anything yet. Its kind of silly to say damage control on a rumored card. Also you really only changed TWO matches on the rumored card, I wouldn't really call that damage control.

But, this is a good card. Only problem is current storylines dont really call for some of these even with the changes you made. Db should face hhh, it makes more sense than any other match on the card, the only reason for him to be in the title match is because fans want it. Dean Ambrose vs Rollins is a complete contradiction of their current story. The feud has been built up to be Reigns vs Ambrose with Rollins being the only one trying to keep it all together, so without Reigns the match doesn't really make any sense. Reigns vs HHH, is kinda random except for one promo on smackdown. DB is too involved with hhh and Reigns is too involved with the Shield split for this match to make sense

If it was December or early January than I would love this card but as it is with the current storylines I would hate this because they would have to change storylines up and do a bunch of random nonsense to make this work.

you can't have Wyatt cost cena the belt two months in a row and not have a payoff but you can have hhh and the authority screw db over for 8 months and have the payoff on raw??? Same goes for Reigns, you can have the split centered around him, he betrays the Shield, than neither Ambrose or Rollins goes after him???

 

[NegativeFeedback]

damage control? We don't even know the REAL card...the rumored card is what people have a problem with, we don't know the stipulations or anything yet. Its kind of silly to say damage control on a rumored card. Also you really only changed TWO matches on the rumored card, I wouldn't really call that damage control.

Batista/Orton is are already on the official card on WWE.com. That heel vs. heel match they have in the main event is a rotten apple and needs to change.

But, this is a good card. Only problem is current storylines dont really call for some of these even with the changes you made.

And as we've seen in recent years, they sometimes start up random stories (if you can call 'em that) 2 weeks before the big show (Jericho/Fandango, Orton/Kane, Ryback/Henry, etc.) Any of these would be better than those flubs IMO.

Db should face hhh, it makes more sense than any other match on the card, the only reason for him to be in the title match is because fans want it

"Because fans want it" is a pretty great reason to make a match. In fact, I think it should be the main reason for any match, especially the main event.

Dean Ambrose vs Rollins is a complete contradiction of their current story. The feud has been built up to be Reigns vs Ambrose with Rollins being the only one trying to keep it all together, so without Reigns the match doesn't really make any sense.

Dean has been booked as somewhat of an obnoxious third wheel while Rollins and Reigns have always been bros. While Seth has been the glue that kept Dean and Roman together, it makes complete sense that he would turn on Dean if forced to take sides. This wouldn't be a contradiction. If anything, it would add an even larger layer to the story. Dean asks Seth to take sides, Seth chooses Roman, and Dean beats him up for his betrayal.

Reigns vs HHH, is kinda random except for one promo on smackdown. DB is too involved with hhh and Reigns is too involved with the Shield split for this match to make sense

It is out of left field, but it's not that random that it would feel preposterous.
Triple H tells Shield to have his back in the main event, but Roman doesn't want part of Shield anymore. Once he betrays them, Roman knows he has to deal with Dean and Seth, but he doesn't account for how personal Triple H will take the betrayal. It could be a cool story in the grand scheme of things and could lead to Roman being billed as a genuine top guy. If both Roman and Dean win at Mania, they can follow it up with a US title match at ER.

If it was December or early January than I would love this card but as it is with the current storylines I would hate this because they would have to change storylines up and do a bunch of random nonsense to make this work.

I get why you don't like the idea of changing things up abruptly, but this is WWE's M.O. WWE has been changing storylines every week. Kane/Punk was dumped and Kane started randomly targeting Bryan randomly. Batista just turned heel, which will completely change the direction of this Batista/Orton feud. Taker and Brock just came to the ring, and signed a contract for pretty much no reason. These things happen.

 

[Kidpolean]

Batista/Orton is are already on the official card on WWE.com. That heel vs. heel match they have in the main event is a rotten apple and needs to change.



And as we've seen in recent years, they sometimes start up random stories (if you can call 'em that) 2 weeks before the big show (Jericho/Fandango, Orton/Kane, Ryback/Henry, etc.) Any of these would be better than those flubs IMO.



"Because fans want it" is a pretty great reason to make a match. In fact, I think it should be the main reason for any match, especially the main event.



Dean has been booked as somewhat of an obnoxious third wheel while Rollins and Reigns have always been bros. While Seth has been the glue that kept Dean and Roman together, it makes complete sense that he would turn on Dean if forced to take sides. This wouldn't be a contradiction. If anything, it would add an even larger layer to the story. Dean asks Seth to take sides, Seth chooses Roman, and Dean beats him up for his betrayal.



It is out of left field, but it's not that random that it would feel preposterous.
Triple H tells Shield to have his back in the main event, but Roman doesn't want part of Shield anymore. Once he betrays them, Roman knows he has to deal with Dean and Seth, but he doesn't account for how personal Triple H will take the betrayal. It could be a cool story in the grand scheme of things and could lead to Roman being billed as a genuine top guy. If both Roman and Dean win at Mania, they can follow it up with a US title match at ER.



I get why you don't like the idea of changing things up abruptly, but this is WWE's M.O. WWE has been changing storylines every week. Kane/Punk was dumped and Kane started randomly targeting Bryan randomly. Batista just turned heel, which will completely change the direction of this Batista/Orton feud. Taker and Brock just came to the ring, and signed a contract for pretty much no reason. These things happen.

I'm just not a fan of these changes, like I said before though, if this was two months ago than I would be all for those. I think you are sacrificing match quality, with the only plus being that db is in the main event. Db vs HHH would easily be a WAY better match than Reigns vs HHH and the shield in a triple threat would be more entertaining and a better match than Ambrose vs Rollins. Lets be honest here, not saying that you haven't been, Orton vs db vs Batista would barely be better than just Orton vs Batista wrestling wise. Yes the crowd reaction would be better and make the match seem better but as good as DB is, he can't make Batista be in shape and we all know that Batista will get a large amount of offense in the match. The only thing db could really do is have a good one on one spot with Orton while Batista is down. But seriously how long will Batista be willing to be down while Orton and DB go at it? IMO, I don't care if the crowd shits on the title match if it means taking away possible classics like the shield triple threat and db vs HHH.

I have to disagree with Taker vs Brock not making sense. It made perfect sense to me Brock simply feels that he has to conquer everything in wrestling and for a split second he forgot about the streak but as soon as taker came out he realized that the streak was an obstacle that he hadn't conquered. So the match was made on the spot.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

IF, IF, IF, IF the reports are true and CM Punk does return to WWE tomorrow night on Raw, I think we'll ultimately come away from the show with the three top matches decided:

The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. CM Punk for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship

IF Punk returns, I simply don't see him not being added to the title match. Whether or not it turns out that this whole thing has been a ploy to get the collective dander of the IWC up, it'll be debated. The addition of Punk or Bryan to the title match is the only way to save it; the live crowd simply won't accept anyone else and they sure as hell won't accept Orton vs. Batista. If Punk is in the title match, I think most fans will be satisfied with Bryan vs. Triple H or vice versa. Otherwise, the title match is a lost cause.

 

[workhorse]

If CM Punk does return and we get a Triple Threat for the WWE WHC (either Bryan or Punk inserted with the other facing HHH), it's unlikely we'll see a Shield triple threat match as well. So with that in mind it looks as if the rumored Big E vs Ambrose Unification Match may very well be a real possibility, which also means Reigns/Rollins vs Harper/Rowan looks likely.

Obviously this is all speculation, but if it were to fall out that way I just feel as if Harper/Rowan vs Reigns/Rollins is a huge step down from their match at EC - which makes no sense considering this is WrestleMania!
The idea of another unification match worries me. The roster is already way too packed with only 3 titles for single wrestlers, and they want to cut it to two

I've been thinking of a way to keep The Shield's Triple Threat Match (in a sense) while creating what could be one of the classic WrestleMania mid-card matches. (in my opinion of course)
Last year I remember a report that stated creative were thinking of doing an 8-man 'Double Ladder' Match which would see both US and IC titles on the line. I assume it would be similar to the 'Two-Fall' Triple Threat Match at WrestleMania 2000 between Angle/Jericho/Benoit.
So I've been thinking, why don't they do that this year? You could use Reigns, Rollins and Ambrose, and obviously Big E. Swagger and Cesaro are developing an interesting story, and Big E has been involved a bit in the last few weeks, so why not have them as well. It also means you could add 2 more mid-carders who wouldn't have otherwise had a match. Mark Henry, Kofi Kingston, Damien Sandow, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz or Del Rio.

To me that takes out what could potentially be 3 seperate matches and combines them into one. The 4 main event matches are basically set, so this becomes the 5th match. That opens up another potentially 3 or 4 extra matches and plenty of room on the pre-show. One would be the Tag Team Titles, probably Christian vs Sheamus, and then, personally, Goldust vs Cody.

This is what I'd run with for now - which assumes Punk is returning. If not, Batista/Orton, Lesnar/Taker, HHH/Bryan, and Wyatt/Cena stays as normal.

WWE WHC Match: Randy Orton (c) vs Batista vs Daniel Bryan
Streak Match: Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar
No Holds Barred Match: CM Punk vs Triple H
Grudge Match: John Cena vs Bray Wyatt
Double Ladder Match: IC & US Titles: Dean Ambrose (c) vs Big E (c) vs Roman Reigns vs Seth Rollins vs Cesaro vs Jack Swagger vs Alberto Del Rio vs Damien Sandow
Tag Team Titles: New Age Outlaws (c) vs The Usos
Grudge Match: Cody Rhodes vs Goldust
Grudge Match: Sheamus vs Christian

 

[Rocky84]

Let's say you're the new Vince Russo and McMahon gave you the green light and open checkbook for WrestleMania 30. Let's also say that the following super stars have signed on for the big payday you're going to give them and are open creatively to your ideas....The Rock, Stone Cold, HBK, Goldberg, Sting, Nash, Punk, and Lita....you may also include older wrestlers like Hogan, Jake the Snake, Warrior, Piper etc in segments, manager roles but no wrestling roles. What's the best card you can come up with??? Of course you date everything back far in advance so any storyline could come into play. Mine is...


WrestleMania XXX
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WWE Unified Championship:
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CM Punk (c) vs John Cena (c)



Piper's Pit:
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Guest- Real Americans w/ Hulk Hogan



Goldberg vs Stone Cold Steve Austin

The Rock vs "HBK" Shawn Michaels



WrestleMania Entertainment Segment:
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3-Man Band w/ Ultimate Warrior



The Wyatt Family vs The Shield (No Disqualification)



Diva's Championship:
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Lita vs AJ Lee (c)



Sting vs The Undertaker

Daniel Bryan vs Triple H

Batista vs Brock Lesnar (No Disqualification)



Intercontinental & United States Title Unification Ladder Match:
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Rob Van Dam vs Rey Mysterio vs Kofi Kingston vs Dolph Ziggler vs Big E Langston vs Ryback vs Sheamus vs Titus O'neil



Alberto Del Rio w/ Ted DeBiase vs Christian w/ Edge


Battle Of The Giants:
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Kevin Nash vs The Big Show vs Kane vs Mark Henry


Chris Jericho vs Randy Orton



WrestleMania XXX Host: Hulk Hogan
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WrestleMania Pre-Show:
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Tag-Team Titles:
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The New Age Outlaws (c) vs The BrotherHood (Dumpster Match)




NOTES:

for the Pipers Pit Segment I'd have the following...

(Piper gets on them for their rhetoric, and Zeb gets on him for not being American as he's Scottish, confrontation starts and Hogans music hits...he comes out and speaks about how un-American they are and he and Piper clear the ring of them after they try to get physical...afterwards they both announce the final match of the night and thank everyone for having them at the 30th Anniversary of their 1st Mania together)


For the Ultimate Warrior/ 3Man Band Segment...

(3 man Band claim they have the best Rock entrance music, then Warriors music hits....they try to get in his good graces and jam out for him. He starts to shake the ropes, and they think he's digging their show but then he takes them all out via shoulder blocks, clotheslines, gorilla presses and splashes.)


This card has 13 matches...WrestleMania XX had 12. So I don't think it's overboard.

 

[thebarber]

well if I was going to be doing this< I wouldnt fantasy book guys who are past it or not going to put on a decent match> Based on the available talent and what I think would make a good card< is the card I am listing below:

1. WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
RANDY ORTON VS BATISTA VS DANIEL BRYAN

2. THE STREAK
UNDERTAKER VS BROCK LESNAR

3. GRUDGE MATCH
CM PUNK VS TRIPLE H

4. JOHN CENA VS BRAY WYATT

5. 8 MAN LADDER MATCH TO UNIFY THE WWE IC-US TITLE
BIG E VS DEAN AMBROSE VS CESARO VS SETH ROLLINS VS ALBERTO DEL RIO VS JACK SWAGGER VS DAMIEN SANDOW VS MARK HENRY

6. 7 TEAM TORNADO TAG TEAM MATCH FOR THE WWE WORLD TAG TITLES
NEW AGE OUTLAWS VS THE USOS VS RYBAXEL VS REY MYSTERIO AND SIN CARA VS HARPER AND ROWAN VS THE MIZ AND DOLPH ZIGGLER VS LOS MATADORES

7. RHODES FAMILY FEUD
CODY RHODES VS GOLDUST special referee American Dream Dusty Rhodes

8. ROMAN REIGNS VS THE BIG SHOW

9. SHEAMUS VS CHRISTIAN

10 WWE DIVAS TITLE MATCH
AJ LEE VS NATALYA

 

[Rocky84]

I could maybe understand saying that about Austin and Goldberg since they haven't wrestled in ages, but The Rock, (who was supposed to wrestle)HBK who obviously still has it, and guys like Nash and Jericho who have shown to still have it are not exactly "fantasy" bro. That's as close to a fact as you're going to get when you're talking about guys who have main evented Mania only a year ago (The Rock) and 2 yrs ago (Jericho vs Punk for WWE title) ...Nash was at the past few Rumbles and main evented PPV's in programs with HHH and Punk what 2 years ago?

If the Outlaws can come back, I don't see a reason Austin and Goldberg couldn't...they are still in top shape as they constantly train. There's plenty of old school guys on the active roster that do not wrestle very often and are still capable of a decent match....Big Show, Undertaker, Kane, Henry, HHH, Christian, Outlaws....all of which made your card. The only thing that stops a lot of the "fantasy" guys I mentioned is money (Austin, Goldberg) and storylines (Rock, Jericho, Sting)...if that weren't the case then they'd be back in the mix with plenty of time to train.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

So if plans don't change in the next few weeks, the last few Raws make it seem like the card will be:

• Randy Orton (c) vs. Batista
• Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
• The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
• John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
• Antonio Cesaro vs. Jack Swagger
• Sheamus vs. Christian
• Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins

The last three WrestleManias have had 8 matches on the card and 1 on the pre-show. So we're probably getting 2 more besides the ones mentioned above. So which match do you guys think will be making it on the card?

The chances are it's either

• The yearly multi-tag match which has yet to be announced
• A (total) divas match
• An Intercontinental title match for Big E
• A Fatal 4 Way tag title match

My money is on Big E working the Kick-Off. I think that would be a great spot for Del Rio who seems a bit directionless heading into Mania. A consistent main eventer like Del Rio working, and even winning the IC title, would boost the title considerably. But for the record, WWE kept Del Rio off the card in WM28 because they felt he was "too big for the undercard". Big E will probably end up facing Ryback or Fandango.

Now, in my opinion, I think the divas will be snubbed once again this year. I just can't see them leaving the whole tag division off the card after all the growth they had in 2013. We'll either be getting the Fatal 4 Way tag or the yearly 6-or-8-man tag.

I think a more pertinent question would be "who's getting on the card?"

Here are the most credible guys in order from 1st to last to get on the card:

Faces: The Big Show, Mark Henry, Big E. Langston, Rey Mysterio, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Cody Rhodes, Goldust, Kofi Kingston, Sin Cara, Darren Young, Santino Marella, The Great Khali, Diego, Fernando, R-Truth, Xavier Woods, Justin Gabriel, Zack Ryder, Evan Bourne, Tyson Kidd, Curt Hawkins, Yoshi Tatsu

Heels: Kane, Alberto Del Rio, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Alexander Rusev, Bad News Barrett, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, Titus O'Neil, Fandango, Damien Sandow, Ryback, Curtis Axel, Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre, Jinder Mahal, David Otunga, Brodus Clay, JTG, William Regal, Brad Maddox, Camacho

As you might notice, there are much more "upper tier" faces than heels. Those first 10 faces seem like they should be locks for the card, while I can only say the same for only Kane and Del Rio on the heel side.

I really feel bad for these guys because out of the 50 mentioned above I really don't see more than 6-8 getting on the multi-tag. And if they go with the divas match, all 50 will probably be off the card.

If I were fantasy booking this thing, I would vacate the tag titles on Main Event and have Hogan announce a big WM30-man Battle Royal with 15 teams. But considering WWE's severe lack of imagination, we all know something like that won't happen.

So what do you guys think the 8th match will realistically be??? And what 8th match would you guys book?

 

[MCMG]

I don't necessarily think that Cesaro v Swagger or Christian v Sheamus are locks. Both solid matches but don't scream Wrestlemania 30. Moreover, we have seen Sheamus and Christian wrestle several times already.

I think they could push for 9 matches on this card + one or two matches on the pre show. I think absolute maximum we could say his 6 more matches. IC title, Tag titles, Divas plus all the other names including slots for the preshow.

A divas match will almost certainly happen. Total Divas is good for business so something will happen there. I personally think we might see Brie vs AJ with Brie taking the belt. That or one of those awful tag-matches.

The tag-teams deserve a match. The Uso's, The Rhodes, Rybaxel and even the Outlaws. The Uso's and The Rhodes' are both over and have a lot of talent. Moreover, Cody missed out last year.

The IC title is difficult one to predict. There are a lot of mid-carders who have no chance of appearing on the card so they could easily have a ladder match; a battle royal or a preshow battle royal where the winner faces Big E on the main show. Right now, I can see something like Big E vs Cesaro vs Swagger vs Ziggler. They could easily add 4 more (Sandow, Rey, Fandango, Miz) and make it a ladder match.

I can't imagine Big Show, Rey, Henry and Kane missing out. It is very difficult to predict what they will all do but Show and Rey especially must be involved.

Main Show:
The Uso's (C) vs The Brotherhood vs Rybaxel
IC Championship: Big E vs Cesaro vs Swagger vs Ziggler vs Del Rio vs Rey
Divas match.
Something else. Possibly Sheamus vs Christian or Kane. Extremely difficult to predict.

Pre Show:

A battle royal maybe. That or Big Show having a match.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

I don't necessarily think that Cesaro v Swagger or Christian v Sheamus are locks. Both solid matches but don't scream Wrestlemania 30.

I agree with you on that they don't feel WrestleMania-caliber, but WWE has put things like Jericho/Fandango & Big Show/Cody on the card before. They give very little thought to their undercard.

Moreover, we have seen Sheamus and Christian wrestle several times already.

Big Show/Cody, Rey/Punk, Rey/JBL and Rey/Cody and a bunch of others all happened multiple times during the build-up and they just held the rematches at Mania. WWE doesn't care.

I think they could push for 9 matches on this card + one or two matches on the pre show. I think absolute maximum we could say his 6 more matches. IC title, Tag titles, Divas plus all the other names including slots for the preshow

It's possible. WM26 had 10 matches if I recall correctly. I was just commenting on the recent trend of the last 3 PPVs. If I'm correct that Sheamus/Christian is a squash then we might definitely get an extra match.

A divas match will almost certainly happen. Total Divas is good for business so something will happen there. I personally think we might see Brie vs AJ with Brie taking the belt. That or one of those awful tag-matches.

Yeah, I think we'll probably get a divas tag. It wouldn't surprise me if Maria Menounos comes back for it too.

The tag-teams deserve a match. The Uso's, The Rhodes, Rybaxel and even the Outlaws. The Uso's and The Rhodes' are both over and have a lot of talent. Moreover, Cody missed out last year.

It would be a crying shame if Cody missed out again, but like you said, it already happened last year. It might possibly happen again.

The IC title is difficult one to predict. There are a lot of mid-carders who have no chance of appearing on the card so they could easily have a ladder match; a battle royal or a preshow battle royal where the winner faces Big E on the main show. Right now, I can see something like Big E vs Cesaro vs Swagger vs Ziggler. They could easily add 4 more (Sandow, Rey, Fandango, Miz) and make it a ladder match.

Your suggestions are great, but WWE seems to have a severe lack of imagination. In the past we've gotten matches like Big Show, Kane, Kofi and Santino vs. The Corre, and Miz vs. Wade. They care so little about the undercard, it isn't even funny.

I can't imagine Big Show, Rey, Henry and Kane missing out.

I definitely think Big Show and Henry will be part of some multi-tag match. Rey too if he isn't injured. As for Kane, this DoO gimmick is probably going to relegate him to a run-in during Bryan's match.

Main Show:
The Uso's (C) vs The Brotherhood vs Rybaxel
IC Championship: Big E vs Cesaro vs Swagger vs Ziggler vs Del Rio vs Rey
Divas match.
Something else. Possibly Sheamus vs Christian or Kane. Extremely difficult to predict.

It could very well be that the Cesaro/Swagger breakup would be settled as part of a multi-man match like Rated RKO's breakup. But I just don't see WWE being as creative as you are in that regard. The last time they exhibited any sort of imagination was with the MitB ladder match, and it was all because Jericho really pushed hard for it.

Pre Show: A battle royal maybe. That or Big Show having a match.

Let's hope for a battle royal. I'd really like that.

 

[Softcore Holly]

Hm, I'll try to keep this simple since the theme of this topic is creative can't do otherwise

Christian vs Sheamus will probably be some sort of no DQ match to spice things up from their free TV matches while still making Sheamus look dominate. Although if it's a "lock" for WM Christian desperately needs some wins since this has been so 1 sided it'll be treated as a bathroom break match.

Divas will most likely get a match, no idea what but I don't see AJ leaving WM as champ if it's anything involving 2 or more opponents for the title

If there is to be a battle royal I hope it's for the IC title. That gets the bigger name mid-carders like Show/Rey/Henry on the show, with the added benefit of minimizing ring time for the guys that can't go that long anymore. You could even put in the Cesaro/Swagger feud in here(don't see that being a WM match) since it will add more tension from one eliminating the other.

Tag titles I can see a another elimination tag match like they did a while back. Rhodes, Usos(c), NAO and Wyatts

So in no particular order
1. Batista vs Orton
2. Taker vs Lesnar
3. Cena vs Bray
4. Shield vs Themselves for the US title
5. Divas match
6. IC Battle Royal
7. DB vs HHH
8. Sheamus vs Christian
9. Tag Titles.

Pre-Show: Just have some silly match between Santino, Emma and Khali vs Fandango, Summer and uh......Sandow since it's very possible he gets left off the Battle Royal. If Emma and/or Summer is in the Divas match replace Emma and Khali with Los Matadores and replace the heel team with 3MB. Also note this is where I can see them doing it, personally I would do things somewhat differently.

 

[Dagger Dias]

So if plans don't change in the next few weeks, the last few Raws make it seem like the card will be:

• Randy Orton (c) vs. Batista
• Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H
• The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
• John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
• Antonio Cesaro vs. Jack Swagger
• Sheamus vs. Christian
• Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins

I can see them adding two more matches. If we do get those 7 matches, that's not as bad of a card as some might think. I can predict it going something like this at the moment:

1. Dean Ambrose VS Roman Reigns VS Seth Rollins in a Triple Threat for the US Championship

2. Sheamus VS Christian

3. Antonio Cesaro VS Jack Swagger

4. Brock Lesnar VS Undertaker

5. The Usos VS Harper & Rowan for the Tag Team Championship

6. Daniel Bryan VS Triple H

7. John Cena VS Bray Wyatt

8. AJ VS Tamina for the Divas Championship

9. Randy Orton VS Batista for the World Heavyweight Championship


Nine matches sounds about right. This adds a divas title match and a tag team title match to an already rumored card. Will this be the best Wrestlemania of all time? No. However, it could end up being a decent show. I want to see Bryan get added to the world title match as much as the next guy, but if we do get stuck with Orton VS Batista in what might be a lackluster main event, the overall show should still be fine. I'm going to go into the show with an open mind and hope to be entertained. It is Wrestlemania after all, and the 30th edition of the biggest brand of them all!

 

[JJV]

Match card of Wrestlemania XXX

Christian vs Sheamus (Belfast Brawl)
Christian wins. Sadly, this is the potential match for Sheamus.

The Usos vs New Age Outlaws vs Luke Harper & Eric Rowan vs Cody Rhodes & Goldust
Usos pick up the victory pinning the outlaws. Cody vs Goldust should have been on the card, unfortunately there isn't much time for a good build up.

Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio
Rey wins. This is not necessary, unless WWE decides to give Rey one last WM victory.

Cesaro vs Jack Swagger vs Big E for the IC title
Cesaro wins and later feuds with Big E until Swagger turns on him. Or Big E retains.

Aj Lee vs Tamina Snuka for the Divas title
Aj retains.

Bray Wyatt vs John Cena
Bray wins clean. Cena could talk about his injury as an excuse, but no outside interference should take place during or before the match.

Shield's triple threat for US title
Ambrose or Rollins wins, preferably Ambrose. Reigns should NOT win at WM.

The Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar
Taker wins.

Triple H vs Randy Orton vs Batista vs Daniel Bryan (Fatal 4 way elimination)
Either Orton or Bryan eliminates Batista, then Bryan eliminates Orton and finally eliminates Triple H via submission. This is the only way they can avoid the Orton-Batista match, also Bryan can walk out as champion after beating Triple H and Orton.

What do you guys think?

 

[rge2010]

I really hope they do not do Sheamus vs Christian. What a boring fued....

Rather have a mixed tag match featuring Show, Ryback, Del Rio, Ziggler, Miz etc.

 

[5000]

If you had creative control leading into Wrestlemania 30 how would you have booked The Road to Wrestlemania.
First off,The card would have been
1.The Undertaker* vs John Cena
2.Brock Lesnar* vs Batista
3.The Rock* vs Randy Orton (WWE hvt. title)
4.CM Punk* vs. Triple H
5.Daniel Bryan* vs HBK
6.Reigns*vs Rollins vs Ambrose (US title/IC title Unification)
7.Cesaro* vs Swagger
8.Ryback* vs Big Show
9.The Wyatts* vs RVD,Jericho,Christian(WWE's Legendary good guy's vs WWE's Future Villians)
10.Kane vs Sting* (inferno match)
11.Henry vs Big E.* (Grudge Match
12.AJ Lee vs Lita* (Diva's title)
13.Cody Rhodes* vs Goldust (Dusty as ref)
KickOff-
NAO vs The Uso's WWE tag titles
Sheamus vs Bad News Barrett*
I don't think i'm going over board with 15 matches biggest Wrestlemania= Biggest Wrestlemania card in my eyes.At least it should
The Shield story would almost still be the same except to make Ambrose even jealouser I would have Reigns not only break Kane's record and make it to the final 2 but he would also win the IC title in the same night.The 3/3 Raw Ambrose would have walked out on them again.Rollins would go talk to Ambrose only to get pushed.Reigns pushes Ambrose they brawl.Rollins get in between but get's hit by Ambrose and snaps.Reigns pulls him off and beat up Ambrose but Rollins hit's his finisher on him.Of course Reigns wins.But at MITB Ambrose wins it back with help from The Authority.Rollins make the save thus setting up Triple H vs Roman Reigns and Rollins vs Ambrose for the undisputed IC title at Summerslam.Rollins and Reigns win their matches and Ambrose begins a program with a returning Kurt Angle or even a debuting Sting or Cesaro.

Sheamus vs. Barrett. 3/3 Raw-Barrett in the middle of Sheamus match with Christian.Barrett could distract him Christian wins.Christian and Sheamus makes peace but the Wyatts intro play's and The Wyatts jump Christian and Sheamus is gone.Later that night Barrett goes to interrupt another match but Sheamus comes and beat the holy hell out of him.Barrett wins to continue his push.He stops using the podium and just make "I have some bad news..." his catchphrase.

Henry vs Big E. Henry cost Big E. his title rematch at Elimination Chamber against Reigns upset because E. didn't help him.But instead of Show Batista makes the save for Henry making his return.

Sting vs Kane. Sting debuts interrupting Triple H calling out Undertaker for Mania but Kane comes out chokeslams him and setting him on fire setting this up.
HBK vs Bryan.all they had to do was had HHH sweettalk HBK and continue the storyline.

The Wyatts* vs RVD,Jericho,Christian(WWE's Legendary good guy's vs WWE's Future Villians)

. 3/3 Raw-Barrett in the middle of Sheamus match with Christian.Barrett could distract him Christian wins.Christian and Sheamus makes peace but the Wyatts intro play's and The Wyatts jump Christian and Sheamus is gone.

Jericho's music hits he makes his return to help out but the numbers is too much and RVD's music hits.

The Undertaker* vs John Cena-Have Cena come out and cut a promo on 2/24 claiming there nothing left for him to do and start talking about his accomplishments and say it's time that I reti... (Undertaker's gong interrupts) he comes in the ring and stares at the Wrestlemania sign and cuts his throat to end Raw.Taker wins faces Sting at WM 31 then Cena at WM 32.
The Rock* vs Randy Orton (WWE hvt. title)
Much like HBK they could of had Cena,HHH,or even Orton himself or Reigns talk Rock into coming back.They could of had him win the RR match.Have him face Brock Lesnar at EC in a DQ winning effort when Orton smacks him with the belt.This is another dream match that may never happen though.
CM Punk* vs. Triple H-Continue this story.They could of told Punk that he was going to win the RR the next year.Even though we all know Reigns or Bryan will.Or if he didn't stay give Hunter the night off.
Cesaro* vs SwaggerSame story.

Ryback* vs Big Show-Ryback goes undefeated.He name's himself the giant slayer beating up on guy's like Khali,Henry,Russev,etc. He get's on the mic and say's can't nobody stop me.Out comes Show who Ko's him leading to this.We know they can put on a great match now.They had a 4 or 5 star match on Raw a while back.

AJ Lee vs Lita After Lita's induction promo AJ comes out and disses her.The next week AJ talks about how she has no more competition out come Lita who smack him and hit's Twist of Fate.AJ wins and get's the biggest win of her life.

NAO vs The Uso's WWE tag titles: WWE made a mistake by not saving this for WM.RR-Outlaws wins the titles.EC-Outlaws def.Real Americans (to futher their breakup.) Raw-Uso's knocks off RA (to futher the breakup even farther) WM-Uso's win to get the biggest win of their life.

Cody vs GoldustNeither is heel or face in this they just get's fed up with eachother.They both lose confidence and have a sibling rivalry leading to this.This will put Dusty in a tough place.But in the end Cody wins when Dusty screw Goldust turning Cody back heel.

Your Turn

 

[Rich the UK WWE Fan 2k14]

Big E versus Dean Ambrose - To unify the IC and US belts
Harper and Rowan of the Wyatts versus the Usos versus Rollins and Reigns for the tag belts
Bray Wyatt versus John Cena
Daniel Bryan versus HHH
AJ Lee versus Lita for the Diva's belt
The Undertaker versus Brock Lesnar
Randy Orton versus Batista versus Daniel Bryan (if he wins against HHH) for the WWE World Heavyweight belt

A varied card, all the titles on the line and furthering for various feuds.

 

[itdoesn'tmatter]

@Daone5000: well, your card has a lot of intriguing match ups. I agree with Rich that card is way too huge unless they made a 2.5 hour pre-show. Also, a lot of it is just not realistic at all. For example, The Rock will not be at WM 30. This is common knowledge. I am a huge Rock fan, but he won't be there for the show likely ever again. I'm going to post a realistic WMXXX card and a fantasy one. The title of the thread is If you had creative control, not the power of the wrestling gods to make any match ever.

Let's start with the realistic card.

I know this thread was started a while back but i'm going to use the knowledge we as fans have now to make accurate estimations to how the show will be.

I'd say if they keep the format like it has been in the past we have enough time for 9 matches. 1 pre show match 5 preliminary matches and 3 main event high profile matches. I also hope they do something invoving NXT because i'm a big fan

The pre-show match should be:

NXT Championship Match
(c)Adrian Neville VS BO Dallas

Intercontinental Title Match
Cesaro VS. Big E Langston for the IC title


Now let's start the show! (best Vince commentator voice)

WELCOME TO WRESTLEMANINA!!!!!!!!!!

Preliminary matches:

Tag team title match- fatal four way ladder match.

(c)The Uso's VS NAO VS Luke Harper and Eric Rowan VS the returning Y2J and RVD

I know Wrestlemania isn't the place for gimmick or hardcore style matches anymore but making it strictly a ladder match would be classy yet exciting. Plus it would start the show off with a huge bang!

Singles Match

Christian VS Sheamus
I think these two vets could put on a great 10-13 minute match with alot of brutality as well as grace. It will probably be Christians last WM match so I know he's gonna leave every ounce of his being in the ring.

United states championship Triple Threat Match

(c)Dean Ambrose VS Seth Rollins VS Roman Reigns
I think splitting up the shield might be a little premature. I'd like to see an epic 20 minute match with brutality and deep therapy for the shield. I hope they all end up in the middle of the ring at the end with their fists united with a new found mutual respect. The next night on Raw they announce the Shield is stronger than ever and back on the same page. However all isn't as it seems.

Singles match
Mark Henry VS the Big Show

These behemoths could but on a quick slobber knocker

Divas Championship match
AJ Lee VS (Lita)(doubt it) Natalya

Wrestlemania wouldn't be complete with out it's annual designated bathroom break. haha just kidding if it was Lita I'd have my eyes glued on the screen. If its any of the modern divas. My ass will be glued to the porcelain throne.

SINGLES MATCH
John Cena VS Bray Wyatt


Main Event Matches:

SINGLES MATCH BELT FOR BEARD
TRIPLE H vs DANIEL BRYAN: special stipulation if Daniel Bryan wins he gets a shot a the WWE World Heavyweight championship at a time and place of his choosing. If Triple H Wins He gets to shave Daniel's beloved beard


SINGLES MATCH AGAINST THE STREAK

BROCK LESNAR VS THE UNDERTAKER

WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH

(C) Randy Orton VS BATISTA
obviously DB cashes in right away and joins the match. Who wins??

 

[thegr8one66]

I would love to see another tournament style WrestleMania for the WWE Championship. Like an 8-guy tournament bracket kinda like WM4. Think it would be exciting.

 

[Ap3x_Pr3dator13]

I would seriously mix everyone up who are currently feuding and have ONE match to determine the Intercontinental Champion OR bring back Money in the Bank to WrestleMania!!

Big E, Cesaro, Swagger, Ziggler, Del Rio, Christian, Sheamus are currently featured on RAW/SD as the under-card so instead of 3 separate matches which would be underwhelming matches, put them all together and have a Ladder Match for the IC title or MITB!

so with the top 4 matches set in stone (HHH/Bryan, Cena/Wyatt, Batista/Orton and Taker/Lesnar) and with the possible Shield Triple Threat, we need at least 2 more solid matches for the under-card.

1. Ladder Match for the IC title or return of MITB:
Big E vs. Cesaro vs. Jack Swagger vs. Christian vs. Sheamus vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Dolph Ziggler

2. Fatal 4-Way Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship:
The Uso's vs. The New Age Outlaws vs. Goldust & Cody Rhodes vs. Ryback & Curtis Axel

I just don't know what guys like Big Show, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan, Damien Sandow, Fandango, Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, Kane, The Miz, Rey Mysterio will do at WrestleMania, but maybe one of those guys can be added to the Ladder Match, making it EIGHT superstars...

 

[steven87gill]

Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton (WWE WORLD TITLE)

Sting vs. The Undertaker (screw WWE for saying that Sting was 'not a priority for them at the moment', I mean he was actually willing to train at Takers gym for this one you bloody idiots) But instead Lesnar Jobs at two Wrestle-Mania's in a row (& probably three if the Rock comes back)

CM Punk vs. John Cena (simple one this, Punk finally gets a clear cut win over Cena & his 'wrestle-mania moment')

Bork Lazer vs. Boo-Tista (NO HOLDS BARRED)

The Shield vs. The Wyatt Family (TLC MATCH)

Nothing wrong with the actual card mind you.

 

[laodaron]

Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton (WWE WORLD TITLE)

Sting vs. The Undertaker (fuck WWE for saying that Sting was 'not a priority for them at the moment', I mean he actually was willing to train at Takers gym for this one you bloody idiots)

CM Punk vs. John Cena (simple one this, Punk finally gets a clear cut win over Cena & his 'wrestle-mania moment')

Bork Lazer vs. Boo-Tista (NO HOLDS BARRED)

The Shield vs. The Wyatt Family (TLC MATCH)

Nothing wrong with the actual card, but the above is light years ahead of it.

If this were the card, I'd demand my refund from WWE Network.

Bryan v. Orton - SNOOZE. Bryan is average in the ring, and Orton's style doesn't lend much to the indy style of spots and horseshit that Bryan uses.

Sting v. Taker - SNOOZE. This isn't 2001. Sting should ONLY come to the WWE to fill a suit role on TV and get his HoF induction at WM31. Taker needs Lesnar this year and Cena next year and then retire.

Punk v. Cena - SNOOZE. Punk is too sloppy to believe he can beat Cena. And he hasn't done anything to deserve that rub from going over Cena clean.

Lesnar v. Batista - SNOOZE. Lesnar is pretty decent and Batista is pretty lukewarm. This would be an 8 minute brawl. No thanks.

Shield v. Wyatts - Great match, except we've already seen it, and we need a Shield breakup NOW so that Rollins and Reigns can get their careers going and Ambrose can go back to National Guard Armory gyms.


The fantasy booking at this point looks like:

HHH v. Bryan - Opening match. HHH gets the win, but not clean. Hogan comes out, says too bad, brother, Bryan is getting the win by DQ, and going into the Triple Threat.
Usos v. Wyatts (minus Bray) v. Brotherhood v. NAO - Usos win. Wyatts and Brotherhood brawl outside.
Diva's match - Who cares, go to the bathroom.
Sheamus v. Christian - Go ahead and grab a beer, cause who cares.
ADR v. Ziggler - Another whatever match
Shield Triple Threat - Reigns wins, Rollins gets his spots in, Ambrose is a training dummy.
Big E. v RA Handicap - Big E. wins, RA break up
Cena v. Bray Wyatt - Bray Wyatt wins, clean
WWEWHC Triple Threat - Bryan wins. Starts the yes chanting. Bray Wyatt comes out and promos on him, saying he beat Cena, and now he's coming after Bryan. They can work a program through Extreme Rules.
Undertaker v. Brock - Undertaker wins. Decent showing from both guys, but the ending is predetermined, and painfully obvious. It's still going to be a solid match, both guys are monsters.

 

[Gibby]

Bryan v. Orton - SNOOZE. Bryan is average in the ring, and Orton's style doesn't lend much to the indy style of spots and horseshit that Bryan uses.

Your trolling is become really transparent now. If you don't like Bryan as a character, or because he once poured sugar in your gas tank, or stiffed you on a tip or an autograph: fine. But the guy has won Wrestling Observer Newsletter Technical Wrestler of the Year EIGHT YEARS CONSECUTIVELY. It's getting to the point where I don't have any faith that you know what a 'spot' is. Say what you mean: waaaah I don't like the small guy and I really like the big fellers. It's ok. It's liberating.

Not only that, these two have had some EXCELLENT matches together in different styles. That brutal hardcore war they had on RAW was one of my favourites of last year, a year in which I got massively into puro (which in turn had one of its finest ever years). The match as part of Orton's losing streak going into EC. The main event at Night of the Champions or Battleground. I don't want to turn into one of those boring Bryan marks but the intolerable incorrectness of his detractors is sort of pushing me to that place!

 

[Rich the UK WWE Fan 2k14]

Your trolling is become really transparent now. If you don't like Bryan as a character, or because he once poured sugar in your gas tank, or stiffed you on a tip or an autograph: fine. But the guy has won Wrestling Observer Newsletter Technical Wrestler of the Year EIGHT YEARS CONSECUTIVELY. It's getting to the point where I don't have any faith that you know what a 'spot' is. Say what you mean: waaaah I don't like the small guy and I really like the big fellers. It's ok. It's liberating.

Not only that, these two have had some EXCELLENT matches together in different styles. That brutal hardcore war they had on RAW was one of my favourites of last year, a year in which I got massively into puro (which in turn had one of its finest ever years). The match as part of Orton's losing streak going into EC. The main event at Night of the Champions or Battleground. I don't want to turn into one of those boring Bryan marks but the intolerable incorrectness of his detractors is sort of pushing me to that place!

You are obviously one of those IWC Sheep who are in love with Daniel Bryan and hate everyone else except CM Junk (yeh, I said Junk, bite me)