Why Aren't You Going To Vote For Dagger?

Why aren't you voting for Dagger

  • He takes things too personally

  • He's not very smart

  • He's stubborn

  • He's not a great poster

  • He doesn't understand the rules

  • Nobody in the Board Room supports him


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I've heard him say that Jack-Hammer, LSN, Hamler and me all suck and not even as eloquently as I put it. Funny that, you know. You claim that LSN and Jack-hammer are smart guys and yet when Coco says they aren't you clam up. What's up with that? Too scared to take on Coco? I'm saying this because as we all know Coco is not a troll.

Uh... because I don't have to argue with everyone about everything that we disagree on? Posting on the internet isn't one giant pissing contest, it's okay to disagree with people from time to time.

And you keep saying that he flat out says that Jack-Hammer sucks... but you have no proof.

Let's have a look at some of Coco's latest threads

Cool.

67 responses.


34 responses.


39 responses.


That's the same one as the last one.


10 responses. Also, Rohan has praised Coco for helping him.


1 response. Admittedly, the Jack-Hammer shtick is starting to get old. He might want to retire that bit and bring it back in time for award season.


60 responses.

Now if you take a look at 6 of Dagger's most recent threads (I'm taking out two threads where he just promised rep to whoever responded, because that has nothing to do with generating discussion)

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=197338

6

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=197782

13

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=199962

38. Glad I did this little exercise, I didn't know that this existed.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=196295

7

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=198353

14

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=198134

1

So really, you've only proven my point. Coco uses his harsh attitude to promote discussion, and it works.

Looks like Coco likes discussing the people that come on here much more than anything else. People he does not know anything about. And that's really creepy.

Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

Let's cut this crap. We know Coco can theoretically discuss lot's of stuff and that may include movies, TV, wrestling and what not but what he really likes doing is this.

Once again, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW? Are you psychic? Are you actually Coco? Did you find Coco's diary and thumb through it?

No, you're just making assumptions, and making yourself look like a moron in the process.

And yes, I know what I am talking about. Whatever you want to believe is your prerogative but there are tons of people on here who just do not like Coco for exactly the reasons I have given you, which if I may add is also one of the reasons why Dagger had so much support in the first place.

I know Coco isn't going to randomly green rep posters for no reason. But you ignore the fact that Doc, myself, Rohan, Wicked Valentine, and more have all benefited from Coco's guidance.

Dagger is indifferent towards who you are. Coco is the guy just waiting for you to slip up to have fun at your expense.

Welcome to the internet princess; grow some thick skin or be prepared to suffer. You're not convincing anyone of anything here. We all know Coco isn't the nicest guy on the boards, but that has nothing to do with why he shouldn't get elected. At the end of the day, Coco is a main event poster, and Dagger Dias is just trying to hold onto his spot on the midcard.
 
I think the more Snakey posts in Daggers defense the more votes supporters Dagger loses. With that being said keep up the great work Snakey:thumbsup:
 
Uh... because I don't have to argue with everyone about everything that we disagree on? Posting on the internet isn't one giant pissing contest, it's okay to disagree with people from time to time.

And you keep saying that he flat out says that Jack-Hammer sucks... but you have no proof.

No not argue but you could tell him you disagree. I know I would do that. As such your praise for guys like LSN and Hamler comes off as hypocritical.

Cool.


67 responses.



34 responses.



39 responses.



That's the same one as the last one.



10 responses. Also, Rohan has praised Coco for helping him.



1 response. Admittedly, the Jack-Hammer shtick is starting to get old. He might want to retire that bit and bring it back in time for award season.



60 responses.

Now if you take a look at 6 of Dagger's most recent threads (I'm taking out two threads where he just promised rep to whoever responded, because that has nothing to do with generating discussion)

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=197338

6

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=197782

13

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=199962

38. Glad I did this little exercise, I didn't know that this existed.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=196295

7

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=198353

14

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=198134

1

So really, you've only proven my point. Coco uses his harsh attitude to promote discussion, and it works.

And what are those discussions about? Nothing but people. And one topic on underwear. As compared to Sly who talks about wrestling, TV and all the other stuff, Coco depends on subtly trolling people to generate discussion. So at least you have to agree that Sly is nothing like Coco. Goes with my original point. What Coco mostly does here is troll and anyone who does not like trolls is not going to vote for him.

Isn't that exactly what you're doing right now?

It isn't what I usually do.


Once again, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW? Are you psychic? Are you actually Coco? Did you find Coco's diary and thumb through it?

No, you're just making assumptions, and making yourself look like a moron in the process.

I don't know. Maybe BY LOOKING AT THE THE THREADS HE HAS MADE RECENTLY, maybe. He only likes to troll people is the conclusion I draw from that.

Welcome to the internet princess; grow some thick skin or be prepared to suffer. You're not convincing anyone of anything here. We all know Coco isn't the nicest guy on the boards, but that has nothing to do with why he shouldn't get elected. At the end of the day, Coco is a main event poster, and Dagger Dias is just trying to hold onto his spot on the midcard.

Considering the amount of votes Dagger has got because of this very reason, I can safely conclude that there are quite a few internet princesses on here. Of course internet princesses are only those guys who feel that trolling is a creepy, pathetic hobby so I do not really have any problem with that.

As for convincing people how have you done? Find me a single person who has withdrawn support from Dagger because of this thread.
 
I think the more Snakey posts in Daggers defense the more votes supporters Dagger loses. With that being said keep up the great work Snakey:thumbsup:

Yeah, give me some proof or just shut up. This thread, not a single person in it, has not made any Dagger supporter withdraw his support from Dagger.
 
Well, we can argue all day about how he does it but all the same the fact remains that he does it. Look at that response to JGlass and look at the threads I posted that Coco has made as to what he discusses. I do not really understand trolling as an art form and nor do I want to understand.

No, we can not argue all day about this. That would just be you taking the "Dagger" route of just ignoring that fact that you are wrong. Not every thread you posted was a troll thread, and I'm surprised you don't understand what a troll is, what trolling is, and what a troll thread is; if anything, this thread has proven that you are quite thick headed.

Either answer the questions put forth to you and provide some evidence of the shit you are talking, or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out. Dagger and you may cuddle up together in the dark and just claim this thread is hate and insults, but most every accusation made towards him here has been backed up with evidence, usually in his own words.

Do you even read what I write?

Sadly, yes.

I never said Coco was a poster like Bill Lesnar. But Coco likes to play up the fact that he is some messiah of these forums to disguise the fact that he flat out likes annoying people and that is no different from any other guy having a gimmick on here, like Bill Lesnar.

Yes, genius, I am quite aware that that was the point you were trying to make. So, get your ass right back to my last post and re-read my response to it. I'll add side note that it's nobody's fault but your own if you can't pick up on subtlety and sarcasm.

Also read again. What I said was that if you have a life, why come here and troll? This has nothing to do with anyone having any less of a life. Seriously how did you even get that.:shrug:

Maybe because you felt the need to throw in a line like "probably much more of a life than I do". Jesus, do you even know what you type up, or do you just pull it all out of your ass? And anyway, why does anyone with a life come here? Why does anyone with school to attend, or a family to raise, or a job to work at come here to do anything? BECAUSE THEY FUCKING WANT TO. So are you really wanting to go down the path of insinuating that people wanting to come here and post shit about JRPG's which came out 15 fucking years ago or wrestling matches that happened 20 fucking years ago are better or more worthwhile than someone with a sense of humor?

Fuck me, dude. I just love you for the fact that you make this so easy and that you just don't ever want to quit. Didn't you learn anything the last time we had a dance like this?

Yeah, typical of you. Just because someone is polite means they are so because they cannot be a dick like Coco.

Um, you wanna try that again in English, and, I dunno, maybe making some sense? The point is that you cry foul at EVERYTHING Coco does, and you paint him out to be some boogeyman of the forums. Meanwhile, Dagger is a shady sneak who prefers his fights not to be in public because he'd rather not have people see how much of a reactionary brat he can be. I've seen the boy blow up at me over an honest comment, and then once everyone jumped to tell him he was being a twat, he PM'd me to apologize and suck my dick instead of just saying sorry in the thread where this all took place. He didn't do that because he felt it to be the right thing to do; he just didn't want to admit to everyone else that he had being a tantrum throwing brat. THAT'S WHAT BEING MANLY IS ALL ABOUT!

I just say what I see and what I have been a part of. Sly has never trolled me. Nor have I seen him make some thread to call a poster out and/or follow them around multiple threads annoying them.

So, two things:

A: You admit you are only making Coco out to be a villain because he took a shot at you (kinda) recently and so you just assume that he does that to everyone.

B: You clearly must have missed EVERY EXCHANGE between Sly and shattered dreams for the last year.

It's ok, I'm not surprised by your admitted ignorance. I've known it about you all along.

And yeah, I don't care if Sly thinks I am cool or not. Sly and I have generally bickered on issues concerning wrestling and as far as I have seen Sly isn't that type of guy who keeps informing the world about his opinion on posters anyway. Coco does that on a routine basis. So if I wanted to be KEWL with someone, wouldn't I be so with someone who posts his thoughts about posters more often?

Is that a defense? Really? Wow, man. You just...wow.

I mean, I guess we'll just forget Sly's little annual "what I think of you" kind of threads, wherein people are rated and insulted and shown...I dunno..."HIS OPINION ON POSTERS". I'd call that fairly regular. And, you know, for all those threads you posted, not many of them were "WHAT I THINK OF THIS POSTER". Just goes to show that you let your butt hurt interfere with your reasoning.

You are biased and you aren't presenting any logical case as to why one should vote for Dagger. But please, you are doing Coco and Crock a huge favor by being the guy's mouthpiece and making his side look ridiculous. Don't stop now, baby.
 
Yeah, give me some proof or just shut up. This thread, not a single person in it, has not made any Dagger supporter withdraw his support from Dagger.

That you know of.

That said, Dagger shouldn't have had any supporters to begin with. Anyone who's seen Division Blade and read Dagger's posts should know for a fact that Dagger doesn't make good things.
 
Yeah, give me some proof or just shut up. This thread, not a single person in it, has not made any Dagger supporter withdraw his support from Dagger.

Just wushady and LJL, to name two. I posted proof for Habs already. I trust you are capable enough to find it.

Care to embarrass yourself some more?
 
Yeah, give me some proof or just shut up. This thread, not a single person in it, has not made any Dagger supporter withdraw his support from Dagger.

There have been some ABC members that changed their tune. Maybe not solely because of this thread but the thread didn't hurt. This thread has convinced me that Habs is just putting up a good show of support but will ultimately either not vote or vote for Coco or Crock. I don't blame him either, he got robbed in this election.

Other than you and maybe LSN, Hamler and JWG we (non-ABC members) don't know who supported Dagger. If you have any idea who supported him we can certainly go to those people and poll them regarding where they currently stand and why.
 
DirtyJosé;3633152 said:
Just wushady and LJL, to name two. I posted proof for Habs already. I trust you are capable enough to find it.

Care to embarrass yourself some more?

What embarrass? LJL was a part of the ABC party but never supported Dagger. I never said every ABC party member supported Dagger. wushady also may have never supported Dagger for all I know.

The question was which "supporters" of Dagger have withdrawn support. And there you have moot.
 
There have been some ABC members that changed their tune. Maybe not solely because of this thread but the thread didn't hurt. This thread has convinced me that Habs is just putting up a good show of support but will ultimately either not vote or vote for Coco or Crock. I don't blame him either, he got robbed in this election.

Other than you and maybe LSN, Hamler and JWG we (non-ABC members) don't know who supported Dagger. If you have any idea who supported him we can certainly go to those people and poll them regarding where they currently stand and why.

I did not support Dagger in the primaries and no I don't have much of an idea as to who did.
 
Well, we can only really go by people who are known publicly as current and former ABC party members, right? Because it's not like the rest of us have forum access to your little citadel. Furthermore, by your logic you could just call anyone now claiming to not be voting Dagger a "non-supporter".

You asked a question, and it was answered. Can't say I'm surprised to see you grasping at straws to try (poorly) to save face.
 
No not argue but you could tell him you disagree. I know I would do that. As such your praise for guys like LSN and Hamler comes off as hypocritical.

He knows I disagree. I've frequently stated that LSN is one of my best e-buds on here, easily in my top 5 of favorite posters to talk to.

And what are those discussions about? Nothing but people. And one topic on underwear. As compared to Sly who talks about wrestling, TV and all the other stuff, Coco depends on subtly trolling people to generate discussion. So at least you have to agree that Sly is nothing like Coco. Goes with my original point. What Coco mostly does here is troll and anyone who does not like trolls is not going to vote for him.

Oh, that's right, I forgot you're the "non-spam snob" of these forums.

Tell me, Rattlesnake, what makes non-spam better than spam? In what holy scripture does it say spam posters are of the lower caste and non-spam posters are superior?

People come to these message boards to discuss a variety of things, whether it's wrestling, music, film, or just shoot the shit. Just because Coco excels at spam posting doesn't make him an inferior poster by any means.

It isn't what I usually do.

Thank goodness, you're terrible at it.

I don't know. Maybe BY LOOKING AT THE THE THREADS HE HAS MADE RECENTLY, maybe. He only likes to troll people is the conclusion I draw from that.

You're looking at a ridiculous small sample of all of his posting and drawing a biased conclusion from that. You're completely ignoring all his posting in the Wrestling Spam Zone and places like my personal thread, his personal thread, and other places where he just simply likes to talk to people.

Considering the amount of votes Dagger has got because of this very reason, I can safely conclude that there are quite a few internet princesses on here. Of course internet princesses are only those guys who feel that trolling is a creepy, pathetic hobby so I do not really have any problem with that.

I... don't know how to respond to this. So you're an over-sensitive, non-confrontational wimp, cool.

As for convincing people how have you done? Find me a single person who has withdrawn support from Dagger because of this thread.

LJL and LSN.

You're really showing your colors here, Rattlesnake. This isn't about improving the forums for you, this is about winning. Which is basically the ABC party's MO.
 
There have been some ABC members that changed their tune. Maybe not solely because of this thread but the thread didn't hurt. This thread has convinced me that Habs is just putting up a good show of support but will ultimately either not vote or vote for Coco or Crock. I don't blame him either, he got robbed in this election.

Other than you and maybe LSN, Hamler and JWG we (non-ABC members) don't know who supported Dagger. If you have any idea who supported him we can certainly go to those people and poll them regarding where they currently stand and why.

Make no mistake about it, I have every intention of voting.

And thanks for the kind words, but I didn't get robbed. I lost fair and square.
 
Oh, that's right, I forgot you're the "non-spam snob" of these forums.

Tell me, Rattlesnake, what makes non-spam better than spam? In what holy scripture does it say spam posters are of the lower caste and non-spam posters are superior?

People come to these message boards to discuss a variety of things, whether it's wrestling, music, film, or just shoot the shit. Just because Coco excels at spam posting doesn't make him an inferior poster by any means.

Oh not this again.

There is no difference between good spam and non spam posting. I have no problem if you talk video games or movies in spam. Personal attacks on people is a different story though I am given to understand that that not the only reason why spam exists.

Hence I have no problem with spam posts. I do however have a problem with Coco insulting people on the net.


You're looking at a ridiculous small sample of all of his posting and drawing a biased conclusion from that. You're completely ignoring all his posting in the Wrestling Spam Zone and places like my personal thread, his personal thread, and other places where he just simply likes to talk to people.

Well, I am sorry that I found only these types of threads on his first page. But I am pretty sure I will find more of the same.

As for basing results of a small sample, didn't you guys do the same with Dagger. By telling that his Video Game section thread got 5 responses when very few threads in that section get more responses these days.

LJL and LSN.

Haven't heard from LSN

You're really showing your colors here, Rattlesnake. This isn't about improving the forums for you, this is about winning. Which is basically the ABC party's MO.

It's about not giving an absolute dick any position of power on this forum. It has nothing to do with what party I am in. Though I must say that I did join ABC in the first place because I did not see any asshats in the party.
 
I did not support Dagger in the primaries and no I don't have much of an idea as to who did.

I'm sorry your support and vote was a waste of your time.

As far as your comments regarding the influence of this thread on Dagger's supporters I think it is fair to say the burden of proof is as much on you as any of us.
 
DirtyJosé;3633141 said:
Is that a defense? Really? Wow, man. You just...wow.

I mean, I guess we'll just forget Sly's little annual "what I think of you" kind of threads, wherein people are rated and insulted and shown...I dunno..."HIS OPINION ON POSTERS". I'd call that fairly regular. And, you know, for all those threads you posted, not many of them were "WHAT I THINK OF THIS POSTER". Just goes to show that you let your butt hurt interfere with your reasoning.

I'll respond to the whole post later but for now I really want to know where Sly has done this. I have surfed three pages of his threads so far but have found nothing.

I hope you don't mean that greater than less than thread because that is not really rating anybody and though it was close, Sly's actions elicited some real surprise there because Sly is not known for doing these things.
 
Because Slyfox never goes out of his way to get a rise out of the same handful of CM Punk supporters. And even if he did, that's not trolling. Because he's Slyfox. All hail the Fox. :rolleyes:
 
DirtyJosé;3633232 said:
Well, we can only really go by people who are known publicly as current and former ABC party members, right? Because it's not like the rest of us have forum access to your little citadel. Furthermore, by your logic you could just call anyone now claiming to not be voting Dagger a "non-supporter".

You asked a question, and it was answered. Can't say I'm surprised to see you grasping at straws to try (poorly) to save face.

I know LJL did not support Dagger earlier because he stated so in this thread.

And the fact that everyone inside ABC supports Dagger is a myth and you seem to be buying it.
 
Oh not this again.

There is no difference between good spam and non spam posting. I have no problem if you talk video games or movies in spam. Personal attacks on people is a different story though I am given to understand that that not the only reason why spam exists.

Hence I have no problem with spam posts. I do however have a problem with Coco insulting people on the net.

You're definitely not alone, but you're probably in the minority. Coco means nothing personal, he just does it for entertainment, and I think that most of us are very entertained.

Well, I am sorry that I found only these types of threads on his first page. But I am pretty sure I will find more of the same.

And I'm sure you'll find tons of responses from posters that enjoy Coco's antics.

As for basing results of a small sample, didn't you guys do the same with Dagger. By telling that his Video Game section thread got 5 responses when very few threads in that section get more responses these days.

His non-spam threads didn't get many responses either. Problem?

Haven't heard from LSN

Hopefully I haven't gone past any sort of confidentiality, but suffice to I have it on authority. I also have it on good authority that another prominent ABC member has decided to drop support for Dagger, but he wishes to remain anonymous so I will withhold his name.

It's about not giving an absolute dick any position of power on this forum. It has nothing to do with what party I am in. Though I must say that I did join ABC in the first place because I did not see any asshats in the party.

Well they got one when you joined now didn't they?

Coco's not an absolute dick. He just uses a somewhat dickish persona to entertain, much like a standup comedian or comic actor would. And you know what? It works.

Take a deep breath, Snakey, it's just the internet. No reason to take everything so seriously.
 

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