bealzer1010
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Funny how Miller said he was gonna wait for Shields to run out steam, when he's the one gasping for some air! He's still hanging in there though, glad I'm not judging this fight!
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Strikeforce LD: The Last Emperor vs. The Tire Salesman
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Turd Ferguson
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I think there's potential for Rogers to get the KO.
Of course, the chances of that happening are slim to none.
Of course, the chances of that happening are slim to none.
Turd Ferguson
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Too many fucking commercials good lord
bealzer1010
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Was just bout to post it myself!
Turd Ferguson
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Fedor busted open already!
bealzer1010
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Fedor split already!
bealzer1010
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Fedor cracked him
Turd Ferguson
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Oh fuck you Mauro and your alliteration
KASPEROV OF COMBAT
KASPEROV OF COMBAT
Turd Ferguson
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Rogers is gassed
bealzer1010
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Rogers isn't skilled enough
bealzer1010
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Fedor looks scarier with all that blood!! Rogers is gotta be scared now that Fedor took some of his best shots!!
Turd Ferguson
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This fight owns.
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Holy fuck what a punch.
What a fight.
What a fight.
bealzer1010
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Fedor!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!!! Great fucking fight!!
Rogers didnt want it after that punch!
Rogers didnt want it after that punch!
Turd Ferguson
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Likewise.
Let's see Overeem vs. Fedor now. I really think Overeem could take it to him.
That was also one of the best fights I've ever seen and Rogers could have had it.
Brock would end up like either Rogers or Mark Coleman/Hong-Man Choi (losing via arm bar). Though, if Lesnar could lay and pray without getting caught like Shields did against Mayhem, then that's the only way he could pull it off.
Anyway, Rogers put up a much better fight than expected as said; however, he lost my respect with his ridiculous interview afterward.
I'll give a full review of the show in the MMA Section a little later.
I've only seen both Brock and Fedor fight a couple of times...but look how much trouble Fedor had with Rogers' size and strength. And Rogers wanted to stand up with Fedor...what would Fedor do if a high quality wrestler were to take him down and be on top of him all fight long?
And do you think Rogers is better than Lesnar?
Firstly, Fedor's beaten much bigger fighters than both Lesnar and Rogers, so size isn't really an issue when it comes to Fedor. He defeated Zuluzinho (6 ft 7, 390 pounds) in just 26 seconds, he defeated Choi Hong-man (7 ft 2 in, 319 pounds) in just 2 minutes, he beat Tim Sylvia (6 ft 8, 265 pounds at the time) in just 40 seconds, and so on and so on.
And as far as the fight with Rogers, I didn't see Fedor in trouble once. His nose was cut before the fight even started, I read, so that jab creating that deep of a cut was a fluke. And then... the ground and pound part... Rogers only landed a couple of those shots, and Fedor was just setting him up the whole time for the armbar anyway. Outside of those two moments (1 jab and about 4 GNP shots), Fedor completely dominated that first round. He took Rogers down twice, and rocked him on the feet.
Anyway, the reason I think Fedor would beat Lesnar is because Lesnar's not a good stand-up fighter, at all. That was shown against Mir, where Mir kicked his ass on the feet. And on the ground... if you follow Fedor's career, there's no one slicker when it comes to catching someone out of nowhere with a submission. I just don't think Lesnar could go 3 or 5 rounds against Fedor without getting caught with something. He would have to be really defensive, and that's not Lesnar's style. He's a very aggressive fighter and that plays right into Fedor's game.
No, but I don't think Rogers is better than a lot of Fedor's other victims as well, so that's really irrelevant.
Yes, but did those guys possess the athleticism Lesnar does? I know Sylvia doesn't, and I've never seen the other two.
Rogers won Round One.
Dominate? Not even close. Rogers was pushing him up against the fence, hit him with several knees and punches, and was never in ANY danger of losing the fight in the first round, with the exception of one punch.
I don't think Lesnar would try to stand up with Fedor.
That's assuming Fedor could fight on his back against Lesnar and not get beaten.
At the end of the day, Fedor is still just a human. He can be knocked out too, and I think (with the limited fights I've seen), a guy with Lesnar's size, strength, and athleticism would give him difficulty, especially if the fight would be on the ground.
No, but you didn't bring up athleticism, only size/strength.
And even so, athleticism is only useful to take someone down, and I've admitted that Lesnar would be able to do that (though he wouldn't be able to do it at will like he did against Herring and Mir). However, I still don't think he would survive on the ground with him because of the way Fedor scrambles around, improves his position, and pulls off submissions out of literally nowhere.
Rogers won Round One.
You're the only person I've seen say that, and I lurked a couple of different MMA forums for a good hour last night.
Any punch Rogers hit Fedor with didn't even do anything. The mount Rogers had was good, but it came off of Fedor's aggression and Fedor had the mount for the last minute or so of the round, so that's irrelevant. Fedor also rocked Rogers with the left hook as I said, and he took him down twice.
Now to compare that with what Rogers did... he had the jab, the punches in the mount and some work against the cage. That gives Fedor the edge in my book, especially since Fedor was the aggressor, landed the harder shot and had Brett playing defense for almost the entire round. When someone is holding someone against the cage, they're on the defensive usually, and that's exactly what Rogers was on. Also, Rogers gassed himself out doing that, so it played out in Fedor's favor anyway.
I think if you watch the replay, you've come to a different conclusion on this.
He would have to, eventually. Fedor's not Heath Herring.
He's been able to do it against everyone else. And while I know everyone else isn't Brock Lesnar, there's no reason to fully believe Lesnar would be any different. I'm not saying Lesnar has zero chance of defeating Fedor, but I think people underestimate just how good Fedor is because he hasn't fought in the UFC. Lesnar has looked damn impressive in his last 3 fights, but that shouldn't be enough for anyone to think he would beat Fedor.
To be honest, until Lesnar and Fedor actually fight, the only way I would start to drink the kool-aid of Lesnar beating Fedor is if he manhandled Big Nog like he did Herring/Mir, which is a fight we could get by the summer
And I think Fedor's takedown defense, harddest hitting fist in the sport, and his Sambo would give Lesnar a lot of difficulty.
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