[Official] Team U.S.A. Discussion Thread

[Super Crazy]

I vote for Stone Cold for the Ironman match. He is a tough S.O.B. and he could definitely make it through this sort of match as the victor.

I vote Kurt Angle for the Submission match for obvious reasons. His ankle lock is crazy, and that move he used to make Wolfe tap at Turning Point was also sick.

I vote Rob Van Dam for the Falls Count Anywhere match as this guy is just insane. He's done flips onto opponents into crowds, dove off of staging, he is good to go in any environment.

I vote Shawn Michaels for the Ladder mach because he made the ladder match popular. His match with Razor Ramon is crazy. He is one of the first televised wrestlers to use the ladder as a weapon I believe. He could come out on top in this event for sure.

I guess that leaves Hogan for the Spin The Wheel, Make The Deal match. I didn't really want him for this match, but this match could be anything, and I didn't want him in the other events.

 

[Leafy]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)- Shawn Michaels, I was going to pick Angle but he's needed for the submission match. Michaels has proved he can do an iron man match and he's a great wrestler. I would like to see any other country pick an opponent to top him.

Submission- Kurt Angle- He's the only one on the team with a submission finisher and his mat wrestling lets him lock in the ankle lock from any position.

Falls Count Anywhere- Steve Austin- Austin can brawl with the best of them and he's fought the best wrestlers in the world. He can use weapons when needed and as the stamina to survive the match
Ladder / MITB Match- RVD- With the choice between him and Hogan this is an easy choice. RVD has an amazing record in ladder matches and has the creative move set ladder matches need

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal- Hulk Hogan- I had to put Hogan somewhere and this is where he belongs. He's fought in almost every match thought of and his ring knowledge will help him win the match

 

[NSL]

Spin The Wheel, Make The Deal ~ Shawn Michaels

As Becca will so quickly point out, whenever given the opportunity, HBK has been a trendsetter, and was in many firsts concerning gimmick matches. He'd be able to fight in any match thrown at him, and do well.

Ladder/MiTB ~ Rob Van Dam

Who better for this match, then the best all-around athlete on the roster? He's no stranger to extreme matches, and he's probably just as fast as anyone else in here, except maybe the Japanese.

Submission ~ Kurt Angle

I don't think this one needs any explanation. He can wrestle with anyone, which is especially an advantage in this environment, and the Ankle Lock would take down anyone. Add in all of his other submission moves that he's used, and you have a man built for this match.

Falls Count Anywhere ~ Stone Cold Steve Austin

This is the order I placed everyone in their matches, so between him and Hogan, this pairing made sense the most. He's a well known brawler, and since that's how most people will vote (forgetting his years as a technician), he'd do well here.

Iron Man ~ Hulk Hogan

This was basically all that was left, so it was made for me. He'll get a ton of votes, simply for being Hulk Hogan, so where he lands doesn't make much of a difference. I think the fact that he wrestled in an era where main events typically went longer would play into his hands as well.

 

[SavageTaker]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)- This one should definitely be the match Shawn Michaels competes in. He has been involved in an iron match in the past so we know he can survive for an hour. There is also the fact that he won the Royal Rumble in 1995 and in 1996. In the 1995 one he survived for nearly 39 minutes which is no easy feat because of all the opponents he had to face since he entered first. In 1996, he survived nearly 30 minutes which is no easy feat either and is good enough since the Ironman match can be 30 minutes. He’s clearly the choice here because overall, he’s survived matches that have been pretty long and he has more experience if I’m not mistaken in matches like this one.

Submission- This is another easy choice, Kurt Angle. He’s the submission specialist of this team and he has won many more matches via submission than any of the other members. He has the most experience in these type of matches and he should be competing in the Submission match event.

Falls Count Anywhere- From the leftover choice, I’d have to go with Stone Cold. He’s a great brawler and I don’t think he’ll do too bad in this match since weapons are allowed if I’m not mistaken.

Ladder / MITB Match- This should be the easiest choice of all for everyone that calls themselves a pro-wrestling fan. RVD should be in this match. He is the best high flyer on the team and a great high flyer overall. Also, he has more experience in Ladder matches than everyone if not most of the people on Team USA. And lastly, he worked for the original ECW. What does that matter or mean you ask. Well, it means he’s extreme and it matters because you know that he wouldn’t be afraid to do some crazy shit in this match.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal- Hulk Hogan. There is no real explanation for this one, I just thought the other members where better choices for the other matches. I guess if Hogan gets lucky then he’ll do good on whatever match it turns out to be.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)- Shawn Michaels, I was going to pick Angle but he's needed for the submission match. Michaels has proved he can do an iron man match and he's a great wrestler. I would like to see any other country pick an opponent to top him.

Submission- Kurt Angle- He's the only one on the team with a submission finisher and his mat wrestling lets him lock in the ankle lock from any position.

Falls Count Anywhere- Steve Austin- Austin can brawl with the best of them and he's fought the best wrestlers in the world. He can use weapons when needed and as the stamina to survive the match

Ladder / MITB Match- RVD- With the choice between him and Hogan this is an easy choice. RVD has an amazing record in ladder matches and has the creative move set ladder matches need

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal- Hulk Hogan- I had to put Hogan somewhere and this is where he belongs. He's fought in almost every match thought of and his ring knowledge will help him win the match

I agree with all of this, and I think when the time comes, we need to sub Hogan out for either Cena or Styles.

Shawn Michaels is legendary for his gas tank. He's won the WWF Championship in an Iron Man match, and he's beaten John Cena in a 45 minute match. His never say die attitude also makes him the perfect candidate for this match, as he has shown in the past that it takes quite an effort to put him away. He absolutely should represent Team USA in the Iron Man Match.

Kurt Angle is a Gold Medalist for Wrestling, and he is a submission expert. Of course he's the obvious choice for the submission match here, and he's going to earn yet another Gold Medal in this event... there's no question about that.

RVD was chosen specifically for the Ladder Match event. Coco and I have explained from the start that RVD is made for the Ladder Match, and he's only had one blemish on his Ladder Match record, and that was due to outside interference. He's innovative, and he should be able to wow the crowd here, as well as dish out some major punishment. Team USA is going to earn a gold medal here based on RVD's success in Ladder Matches.

Stone Cold Steve Austin is perhaps the greatest brawler of this generation, and he's going to stomp mudholes left and right as he earns a victory for Team USA here in the Falls Count Anywhere Match.

This leads us to Hulk Hogan. Given the fact that Hogan's very vanilla and hasn't been involved in too many specialty matches, I'm very concerned about his ability to pick up a victory here.

I think Team USA needs to drop Hogan off the team in favor of Cena or Styles here. Cena's worked all sorts of matches, and Styles could be very useful as well. I think as of right now, we need to start lobbying to get Hogan off of this team.

 

[Mr. TM]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins): Rob Van Dam
USA needs a man who can go deep into matches, and Rob Van Dam has proven his worth. Long term, sort of like his TV title which lasted 14 months. This match is key for him and will prove his worth on the team.

Submission: Stone Cold
One of the best matches I ever saw was at Wrestlemania 13 when Stone Cold took on Bret Hart in a submission match. The match started an entirely new era, the Attitude Era. Maybe this will happen again here!

Falls Count Anywhere: Shawn Michaels
One thing I know about Shawn, is that he takes pride in his hair. He does not want his hair going anywhere, getting counted out there, so this match is for him. He also took part in one recently, against Legacy. Probably the best match of that night. Wait, that aws a Falls Count anywhere match, wasn't it?

Ladder / MITB Match: Hulk Hogan
Hulk hogan is the tallest man on team USA, standing at about 6'6, so it makes sense that he be in the match where height is a factor. You dont put the shortest man on your team in a slam dunk competition, you put your tallest. Be smart here guys.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal: Kurt Angle
Kurt Angle has never been one of those guys that said "Purposeful" for me. That is why he switched between Raw/Smackdown/ECW/TNA/New Japan so frequently. I guess that makes Kurt Angle the person who should be in this match.

 

[Razor]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)-- I'm going to go with Hulk Hogan. This American Immortal just won't lie down. If few could get him down for 3 seconds, what makes anyone think he can be kept down for 10 seconds? Exactly. Hulk Hogan for Ironman.

Submission-- It has to be Kurt Angle. No one else is big into submissions, really. Steve Austin refused to quit and bled, but that doesn't get you anywhere when no one really knows if you have a submission move or not. Kurt Angle for Submission.

Falls Count Anywhere-- Stone Cold fights anywhere. It doesn't matter where you are, he's going to brawl with you. Sure the fight may really only consist of a couple kicks, punches, then a Stunner, but that put the best of the best down for the count. Stone Cold is a tough son of a bitch, and he could easily handle this match. Stone Cold Steve Austin for Falls Count Anywhere.

Ladder / MITB Match-- Rob Van Dam? I know people lament the death of ECW to the ends of the Earth on these boards, going to the point of calling the great show Christian is currently on WWECW. I find this silly, because instead of celebrating what those posters deem to be a great period in wrestling, and celebrating what is now a great vessel for rookie progression in the WWE, they choose to lament the past. With this choice I am celebrating that very past. Rob Van Dam made his name in a promotion that was called Extreme Championship Wrestling, and learned to take the worst that was thrown at him. Not only that, the man has proven he can handle himself in a Ladder Match, pulling off multiple victories that include the first ever Money in the Bank win. (Which, by the way, gained him the title win over John Cena.) Rob Van Dam for the Ladder/MITB Match.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal--While I would argue Shawn Michaels was starting to lag a bit around the time immediately during the JBL/HBK feud and after, you can't deny the man has made a name for himself because he has pulled off some great matches in his time. He has proven he can handle most match types, or at least whatever the hell the Wheel will hand him this go around. Shawn Michaels for Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal.

Hulk Hogan for Ironman.
Kurt Angle for Submission.
Stone Cold Steve Austin for Falls Count Anywhere.
Rob Van Dam for the Ladder/MITB Match.
Shawn Michaels for Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal.

 

[Mr. TM]

Razor, I believe that you have made a mistake, messing up the difference between an Iron Man match and a Last Man Standing Match.

Last Man Standing match has the stipulation where you have to keep your opponent down for 10 seconds, sort of like what Lesnar did with ease to Hogan a few years ago. The match that we are using is an Iron Man Match, which involved getting the most pins in the time frame, like what we saw between Cena and Orton.

 

[Razor]

TM, you're correct. I fudged it on that one. However, if I may correct my logic, Hogan was rarely kept down for 3 seconds. I mean really. So let's say Hogan is taken down once. Okay, the opponent has one point over him.

If it takes hell to get Hogan down for the pin once, what the hell is going to make Hogan go down twice? Three times? Four?

Again, sorry about that. It's what happens when I'm focusing more on the Arkansas Bowl game than what I'm typing on the screen.

 

[Bernkastel]

After some genuine thought and some trial and error, I’ve come up with this selection

Ironman

Shawn Michaels

Ironman matches require an enormous amount of stamina. Sure, ability matters, but there’s no point in racking up a dozen wins in forty- five minutes, only to gas out in the end and lose. To be able to survive this match and win, one has to be able to last the time period. Shawn Michaels has proven himself capable of lasting up to an hour, with enough left in the tank to capitalize on pinfalls. Even in his forties, he is still capable of exerting enough stamina to outlast these matches.

Submission

Kurt Angle

Olympic gold medalist and submission expert. Need I say more?

Falls Count Anywhere

Hulk Hogan

The biggest, strongest, and most durable member of Team USA is Hogan. He is a brawler with a high threshold for pain. Any opponent would have their hands full trying to stop Hogan in a no DQ environment.

Ladder

Rob Van Dam

Quick and nimble, RVD is the perfect choice for the ladder match. He has plenty of experience on his resume, competing in several different ladder matches in the past decade. Many of these matches against innovators and specialists like the Hardy’s, Edge, Christian, and Jericho.

Spin the Wheel

Steve Austin

Easily the most versatile member of Team USA, this man can brawl with the best of them, he can hold his own on the mat if he needs to, and his threshold for pain is second only to Hogan’s. Spin the Wheel is a match generator that forces the combatant to wrestle any random match. Austin can make himself at home in just about any environment: cage matches, iron man matches, submission matches, No DQ matches, Austin could even flourish in a ladder match if he had to.

 

[X]

Ironman Match - Definitely going with Shawn Michaels here, being one of the very few people to have ever won an Iron Man match. I was thinking of putting him into the ladder match but that would be better suited for someone else.

Submission Match - Kurt Angle here for sure. The man has a legitimate Olympic background and is known for being a master of the ankle lock, he's also competed in and won several submission matches, so my vote here is pretty self-explanatory.

Falls Count Anywhere Match - Going with Stone Cold here. Every single one of his title matches during the Attitude era were brawls that would go all over the arena and use chairs and tables sparingly as well. Austin excels in this environment and will be a difficult competitor for anyone he faces in this environment.

Ladder/MITB Match - Rob Van Dam here. He's won several ladder matches, including a Money in the Bank match, and his entire background was in the hardcore haven of the original ECW. Ladders and weapons are nothing new to Rob Van Dam, I assure you. He'll be great in this match.

Spin the Wheel Make the Deal Match - Hulk Hogan here I suppose. He's the only one left, and I'm sure there's a chance that the stipulation that he gets when he spins might work to his advantage, like a cage match or something similar.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

The only people not fucking this up are XFear and ST. Typical.


Iron Man Match - HBK

The things that are NEVER ever questioned about HBK in his prime, were stamina and resiliancy. The man could take loads of punishment, and just simply outlast anyone. We have seen the man do it time and time again, and if there was one guy in history I would pick to represent us in an Ironman match, its absolutely Shawn Micheals.

Submission Match - Kurt Angle

Uh, duh. He won a title that proclaims him the best wrestler ON THE PLANET EARTH with a broken fricken neck!!! Honestly though, I can see no man being able to stand up to Kurt submission for submission. This is his match, and his alone.

Falls Count Anywere -

Obviously Stone Cold. The most successfull brawler of all time. The nastiest, toughest SON OF A BITCH (see what I did there?) to walk that aisle. If im picking any man on earth to walk into a street fight with, its SCSA at his prime. I feel bad for whomever faces him here.

Ladder Match -

Obviously RVD. MITB winner, and done all manner of crazy fucking things with ladders in ECW. Im sure X and NSL can back me up with that one. Absolutely the most adept man at using ladders in this match. yes, even more than HBK

Spin the wheel, make the deal -

Well, another thats obvious to me. What man would you put in a match that could end up being any match? Why, your most unbeatable, best overall wrestler. That be Hulk Hogan, for us Americans. You know, the most unstoppable, successfull, dominant force in the history of Wrestling? yea, that guy. I dont give a shit WHAT match it ends up being. Its Hulk fucking Hogan. Son.

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

 

[gd]

Ironman - Shawn Michaels. Pretty easy choice here. HBK's been in more than a few Ironman matches and has been pretty successful. He's someone who has the stamina and the determination to outlast his opponent, and he's pretty smexy.

Submission - Kurt Angle. He's really the only submission guy on the team. I guess you could also go with Hogan, as he isn't one who taps out easily, but I think Angle is the better choice here. He can get someone with an Ankle Lock, a Triangle Choke, a Purple Nurple. He's just a versatile wrestler.

Falls Count Anywhere - Hulk Hogan. This was tough to choose between him and Austin, but I think there's a good chance Hogan wouldn't do well in the random match, given the fact that he can't climb a ladder, as a lot of people here will point out. A Falls Count Anywhere Match is pretty much just a normal match, except the wrestlers go outside of the ring for a large chunk of it, which doesn't make a big difference. It's just like a standard TNA match, and where is Hogan going to be tomorrow? Anyway, Hulk is a monster and has the ability to beat anybody, and I think this is the least gimmicky match, so I'll put him here.

Ladder - RVD. By far the easiest choice. This was the whole reason he was put on the team, wasn't it? He's something like 6-1 in Ladder Matches throughout his career, so this is the obvious choice. He'll likely be one of the favorites in the MITB match.

Spin the Wheel - Steve Austin. As I said before, I think Stone Cold is a better choice than Hogan. He can wrestle pretty much any kind of match and have a chance to succeed. It doesn't matter the stipulation, he'll be a badass no matter what.

 

[TLC]

Ironman Match
HBK. The only man on the team who has gone for an hour and came out on top. He has proved that he is able to outlast just about anyone. In his prime he could take a huge amounts of beatings and still come out on top.

Submission
Kurt Angle. The only member on the team who has a submission finisher. He has competed in several sumbmission matches and came on top off them. He can hit you with the ankle lock out of anywhere and is able to hit you with a number of other submissions.

Falls Count Anywhere
Hulk Hogan. It was between him and Steve Austin, but I felt that Austin was more versatile in types of matches than Hulk in my opinion. Most of Hogan's matches consisted of punching and this one would let him do it as much as he wished. He has proved he can go very extreme and vicious as shown in his Street Fight with Vince McMahon. He can take alot of punishment and won't give up. Hulk Hogan easily takes the gold in this one.

Ladder
RVD easily. The most experienced one in this match with it. Even more so than HBK. He has won numerous ladder matches even a Money In The Bank match. He hs proven he can take punishment as well as give as give it out.

Spin the Wheel
Steve Austin. He has shown that he can go in any type off match and can wrestle lots of different styles. He will be a tough son a bitch in whichever type of match.

 

[Xtreme_Animlas2314]

This was sort of easy one but I still didn't like Hogan being on this team but what can you do. Some of these guys can be in any other matches but I just felt like this would be good enough for Team USA to kick some butt hopefully.

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins) Shawn Michaels Why no we can see a rematch with him and Hart. Plus it makes since!

Submission Kurt Angle Duh! He's a submission wrestler and there's really not another submission wrestler on the team anyways.

Falls Count Anywhere Steve Austin You can probably go with RVD but Austin is the best choice here. The guy competed again the whole WWF roster during the Royal Rumble days and of course WCW Invasion in a way.

Ladder / MITB Match Rob Van Dam Besides Kurt or HBK for this match RVD is the golden choice here. RVD should get the victory here if he doesn't show boat too much.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Hulk Hogan as much as I liked hogan in the beginning of his career. TO me he is just an entertainer which he does really well but as a wrestler I can't put those two things together these days. Like at the other four wrestlers then Hogan. I hate to be mean or rude here but its the truth. I put Hogan in this match and hope for the best here.

 

[Theo Mays]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins): Hulk Hogan
-You may be thinking "Why Hogan in a long match?" Well Hogan was a monster back in his day and the guy was practically unbeatable. It was a task to beat Hogan once, I can't begin to imagine how tough it would be to defeat him multiple times.

Submission: Kurt Angle
-Angle is a submission specialist, so this is a no brainer. Angle could probably do the Ironman match, but I think he fits suit here.

Falls Count Anywhere: Stone Cold
-Austin doesn't really fit into any, so this is his best bet. He is a brawler and can square off against anyone in any kind of fight. Austin gets to roam around and just beat the crap out of whoever.

Ladder / MITB Match: RVD
-It is tough to go against HBK here, but RVD is the choice. He can do wonders with ladders and not many superstars can utilize their abilities like RVD can with any weapon.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal: Shawn Michaels
-And this leaves us with HBK. HBK shines in whatever match he is in and he is perfect to have here. Not sure what the match will be, but Michaels would go out and try to steal the show.

 

[Xtreme_Animlas2314]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins): Rob Van Dam
USA needs a man who can go deep into matches, and Rob Van Dam has proven his worth. Long term, sort of like his TV title which lasted 14 months. This match is key for him and will prove his worth on the team.

Submission: Stone Cold
One of the best matches I ever saw was at Wrestlemania 13 when Stone Cold took on Bret Hart in a submission match. The match started an entirely new era, the Attitude Era. Maybe this will happen again here!

Falls Count Anywhere: Shawn Michaels
One thing I know about Shawn, is that he takes pride in his hair. He does not want his hair going anywhere, getting counted out there, so this match is for him. He also took part in one recently, against Legacy. Probably the best match of that night. Wait, that aws a Falls Count anywhere match, wasn't it?

Ladder / MITB Match: Hulk Hogan
Hulk hogan is the tallest man on team USA, standing at about 6'6, so it makes sense that he be in the match where height is a factor. You dont put the shortest man on your team in a slam dunk competition, you put your tallest. Be smart here guys.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal: Kurt Angle
Kurt Angle has never been one of those guys that said "Purposeful" for me. That is why he switched between Raw/Smackdown/ECW/TNA/New Japan so frequently. I guess that makes Kurt Angle the person who should be in this match.

I just have to comment on this thing when you said about the slam dunk competition thing. Really!! You must not watch basketball in the 90's or even a guy name Spud Webb. When does height ever come into play in the ladder matches? I mean yeah it helps but you really think Hogan is better then Edge or RVD or Liger or Kenta Kobashi? I know I'm hating but just want make a point especially about the whole slam dunk competition.

Sorry in advance.!

 

[HBK-aholic]

Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins) - My first thought was Shawn Michaels. Shawn has won a great Iron Man match before, and with Hart seeming likely to have this match in the Canadian team, he'd seem perfect. However, he's needed more later on. By default, this match goes to RVD. He's tough enough to last the length of any of the matches.

Submission - Angle is known for his submission, and he's made countless people, huge stars, tap out to his ankle lock. This match is his.

Falls Count Anywhere - Austin, without a doubt. He's known for his hardcore type abilities, and I'm sure he could beat anyone in this type of match.

Ladder / MITB Match - I guess Hogan gets this by default. I just realised the guy is useless. Yes, I'm joking. But seriously, none of these matches are 'his' matches.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal - Ladder match, Hell in a Cell match, Elimination Chamber...need I go on? Here I choose the man who takes a concept for a match and makes any match his own. Here I choose a man who has been trusted with the 'first' big matches of their type on more than one occasion. None of the matches are bad. Shawn can run with any type of match. He's had great iron man matches, great ladder matches, great unsanctioned matches, great singles matches. Shawn is the best candidiate for this.

 

[Viola Moonlight]

Ironman Specialist: Hulk Hogan

When I was going through the list, Hogan doesn't really suit any match but this. The man has been know for never giving up and never taking no for an answer. He has been involved in situations where he gets beaten down within an inch of his life, hulks up and uses superhuman strength to take down the opponent for the win. This summation screams Hogan because you need to have huge endurance levels and determination.

If I remember correctly, Hogan tore out his entire back muscle when wrestling against Andre the Giant, something that a weaker man would writhe in pain and would not be able to finish the match without anyone noticing. Hogan bodyslammed Andre and continued to wrestle. He has a huge pain threshold and needs to stay in a match that requires this.


Submissions Specialist: Kurt Angle

You have to be a complete idiot not to pick Angle. He is an Olympic Gold Medalist and has an accomplished amateur wrestling background, using technical ability to weaken the opponent and possibly lock in a submission for the win. Considering Kurt has multiple submission moves and mat skills, as well as high impact moves to wear you down, this is Angle's house.


Falls Count Anywhere Specialist: Steve Austin

Really, another obvious choice. Austin has never been one to follow the rules and always likes to add his own flavour to the match to suit how he feels. Giving him free restriction like this without having him do anything excessive is perfect for the man who wants to stomp a mudhole into you.


Ladder Specialist: Rob Van Dam

Why is this so easy to assign? RVD has heaps of experience with weapons and he has been one of the men to be considered a ladder match expert. This man has won against many opponents with the win/loss ratio doing greatly in his favour. RVD's moveset is made for weapon environments and a ladder can be easily adapted.

Rolling Thunder to someone on the ladder. Frog Splash off the ladder. Split-legged Moonsault to someone on the ladder. Diving kick to knock someone off the ladder. Jeez... every move of his can be used with a ladder, so he doesn't even have to move outside his comfort zone to succeed.


Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal: Shawn Michaels

The go-to-guy on the team. Shawn is like a monkey. Monkey see, monkey do. Shawn has a look at the match type, he mentally prepares himself to go out there and give anyone a beating. He has been in this situation before as he was thrown into newly created and randomly made matches like the Ladder, Ironman (I think), Hell in a Cell and Elimination Chamber, with most of them resulting in Michaels winning.

Really, Michaels could easily be paired into any of the four above specialist categories... so why waste his versatility and adaptability when he can use his experience in the area of complete randomness?

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Ironman: I wanted to go with HBK but I'm choosing Kurt Angle. Angle has been in multiple iron man matches with HBK, Chris Benoit, and Brock Lesnar who all wrestle different kinds of styles. I'm assuming each match will be tournament based so I think Kurt Angle has more stamina over the long haul than HBK.

Submission: Since Angle is out, I'm going with Stone Cold. He did have the Million Dollar Dream in his arsenal. I know people are going to say if he runs up against Hart that he did lose to Hart in a submission match but Stone Cold never tapped out. That still says a lot to me.

Falls Count Anywhere: Hulk Hogan is my choice. It doesn't take that much ability to swing a chair or use a table and Hogan rarely lost in his prime so I don't see too many people that will beat him here.

Ladder: RVD and it's not even close. He has been great in ladder matches throughout his career and can do a whole lot of damage with a ladder when giving the chance.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal: HBK has been in so many different kinds of matches that he has the best chance of winning this match than his other four teammates.

 

[Dave]

Ironman: Shawn Michaels

As has been said multiple times before, Shawn Michaels is one of the only members of this team to win an iron man match and thus has a better advantage than any of the other members. He is also very durable. I have seen some tremendously brutal matches with some of the toughest competitors that Shawn Michaels has endured. In fact, I saw one just today. His match with Kurt Angle at WM21 was a brutal match that lasted ages. He is the clear choice here, outside of Angle.

Submission: Kurt Angle

Nothing need be said about this match tht hasn't been said already. Angle is a gold medalist with a history of making people tap out to one of the most damaging finishers in submission history. Once angle locks in that move, this thing is ll over. Angle is the clear choice for sure.

Falls Count Anywhere: Stone Cold Steve Austin

As was mentioned by someone, Austin is a fucking brutal competitor. He has withstood multiple beat downs and then came back to win. I am looking at Royal Rumble 2000, I think. When Triple H fucked him up and he still won the Rumble. He is a tough son of a bitch and he will stop at nothing to go through hell and high water for the win.

Ladder/MiTB: Rob Van Dam

It has to be. I considered putting Shawn Michaels into this match since he pioneered the match. However, I think RVD has made a name off of being involved in hardcore situations and has been a member of a MiTB before. He is clearly the better choice here. I look at that match and then the match with Jeff Hardy in the ladder match and it just illustrates my point.

Spin The Wheel: Hulk Hogan

Probably one of the most durable yet reliable people on the team. He is what is left so be it.

 

[Tastycles]

Team USA

Kurt Angle - Submission
Hulk Hogan - Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)
Steve Austin - Falls Count Anywhere
Rob Van Dam - Ladder / MITB Match
Shawn Michaels - Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal

The obvious two were Rob Van Dam for the ladder and Angle for the submission. Very few people beat either in either match, and Van Dam is probably the best ladder matcher of all time.

Of the three that are left, Michaels may be the apparant choice for ironman, but he has only won one and drawn one such match, against Kurt Angle, who is the only man to lose more than one Iron Man match ever. He is far more versitile than anyone else on this team, and to that end, he should probably be in the random match.

The last two choices become obvious once again. Tough as old boots Austin goes into the violent match, so we get to see a bald head bleeding. Hogan in the iron man seems weird, but can you honestly see anyone beating him more than one or two times in a match? It seems unlikely. Hogan may get tired, but if I put him in spin the wheel, he'd lose a cage match to Wild Samoan Afa in all likelihood.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I believe Shawn Michaels will be the weak link now that man we know he's in the Ironman match. If he runs up against Team Samoa or Team Canada he will be in trouble. When we think of the Rock, we think about his promo and mic work but he could go in the ring. He has only participated in one Ironman match and did a damn good job against HHH which gets lost in the return of the Undertaker. I believe the Rock can beat HBK in this match because he can use the Sharpshooter, The Rock Bottom, and the People's Elbow to pick up wins. I think it is important in an match like this to have many different finishing moves in your arsenal.

If Bret Hart gets chosen to represent Team Canada in this match, it is true that HBK did beat Hart before. However, HBK needed overtime to beat Hart and that match was even for the sixty minutes. Who's to say that Hart could get a couple of pinfalls in during regulation and win the match. If Benoit gets chosen, I don't see any way that HBK can win. Benoit has beaten Angle and HHH in this match and I believe he has the cardiovascular ability to wrestle these kinds of matches and do very well in them. HBK has tapped to Benoit before so we know Benoit can score a pinfall with the Crippler Crossface. His constant array of German suplexes could tire HBK out in the long run and he has his flying headbutt to score a pinfall if need be.

All in all if HBK can avoid Team Canada or Team Samoa early on, I think he would be fine but if not, Team USA could be in some early trouble.

 

[HBK-aholic]

If Bret Hart gets chosen to represent Team Canada in this match, it is true that HBK did beat Hart before. However, HBK needed overtime to beat Hart and that match was even for the sixty minutes.

This is SO you

Who's to say that Hart could get a couple of pinfalls in during regulation and win the match.

Who's to say that Shawn couldn't do the same? I mean seriously, how silly is this. They wrestled a great match, and Shawn won it. There's no evidence to suggest that Hart would win the next one. However, we have evidence to show that Shawn CAN beat Hart in an iron man match; there's nothing more to it.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

This is SO you



Who's to say that Shawn couldn't do the same? I mean seriously, how silly is this. They wrestled a great match, and Shawn won it. There's no evidence to suggest that Hart would win the next one. However, we have evidence to show that Shawn CAN beat Hart in an iron man match; there's nothing more to it.

We do have evidence that shows that HBK can beat Hart in an sixty minute match that went into OVERTIME. Let's say that this match doesn't go into overtime. Can you be 100% certain that HBK wins that match because I can't say that. I'm not trying to say that HBK has no chance of winning it if this doesn't go into overtime. I just feel that Hart has a good chance of winning if he is selected.