[Official] Team Canada Discussion Thread

Who Represents Team Canada?

  • Bret Hart

  • Chris Benoit

  • Chris Jericho

  • Christian

  • Owen Hart

  • Lance Storm

  • Edge

  • Earthquake

  • Killer Kowalski

  • Abdullah the Butcher

  • Robert Roode

  • Petey Williams

  • Val Venis

  • Stu Hart


Results are only viewable after voting.
Ironman Specialist: Chris Benoit

For starters, Benoit has been in two memorable matches and came out on top for both against excellent stars in their one right. Chris is just a tough bastard when he steps into the ring and his intensity and impact is enough to keep you down for most of the match. He can deliver multiple German suplexes, moves that weaken the hell out of you, as well as high-pressure submissions to completely take people out of the game.

He can go the distance and has proven this in many matches, often winning them. Benoit is a great technical wrestler who would easily match up against many.


Submissions: Bret Hart

The man knows more moves than the Sharpshooter in the submissions department, but being as techincally sound as he is, he doesn't need that many to get the job done. Great technicians like Hart would know how to weaken the opponents body in order to get them to submit in an instant. He is also known for hardly giving up himself and will go to extensive distances not to quit.

Remember Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart? That sharpshooter was held in so long that Austin passed out and the referee stopped the bout. How about Owen vs. Bret? A Hart family member throw in the towel for Bret to quit, despite Bret telling his family not to. He wanted to keep going. These are pivotal moments in history where Bret has proven himself he is a master of submissions.


Ladder Specialist: Chris Jericho

The man is savvy as all hell when it comes to these match types. Jericho has legit Ladder match experience and has won some of them as well (a better ratio than everyone else on the team). The man has an adaptable moveset that can easily fit to Ladder matches where he has used them to manipulate the course of the match. The Walls of Jericho on the top of the ladder? If locked on for a sufficient period and Jericho lets go, the opponent falls and crumbles on the canvas like a cookie with Jericho easily grabbing whats hanging above.

He is a smart man, cunning and deceptive, when it comes to weapon utilization. Jericho is a man that likes to regroup whenever he needs to and something like a Falls Count Anywhere match does not fit the bill at all. If he does go to the outside to take a breather, the opponent would logically set up the ladder and start to climb with Jericho unsuspectingly coming to attack or they would go to the outside and attack Jericho, with Chris playing possum.


Falls Count Anywhere Specialist: Edge

I was going to put him as the Ladder specialist, but I remembered he has a terrible solo record in that department. But, he is great when it comes to weapons and using the environment to your advantage. Why not stick him in the FCA match? In essence, hardcore matches are something similar to the FCA, and Edge has put on some clinically matches in them, such as the one with Mick Foley. Considering he is the ultimate opportunist, you'd think that he would find a way to escape any situation if you have no restrictions and get the pin.

His main finisher is also very adaptable to situations. Its a spear that can be used to force people through tables, ladders, equipment, walls, lockers... anything you could think of. Knowing Edge's psychology, he would find a way to spear you where he knew it would connect.


Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal: Lance Storm

This is excellent for Storm, because the man is such a versatile wrestler he can basically become one with any match that is thrown at him. His only weakness that could come about is a match where striking/brawling is increased in use. But, knowing Storm's prowess, he would be able to reverse and counter with moves of his own.
 
This team is pretty easy to set up, and there's the added bonus that no set-up can be considered "wrong".

Submission ~ Chris Benoit

Hart may be a master technician, but I don't think anyone knows as many as submission holds as Benoit, and his finishers just look like the hurt more. I'd take being wrapped up in a Sharpshooter any day, over being twisted into a Crippler Crossface.

Iron Man ~ Bret Hart

This was a pretty easy pairing for me. Bret can go for a long time, and he doesn't wrestle a fast, high impact, style that would kill him and slow him down. He doesn't take any risks, and that always pays off in these kinds of matches.

Ladder/MiTB ~ Chris Jericho

Again, a very easy pairing. Jericho is great in these matches, and in a "no rules" environment, there's no one I'd want more.

Falls Count Anywhere ~ Edge

Why not? He's a great wrestler, as well as a brawler, and he's shown that he can take a beating with the best of them. Figure in all his experience in TLC matches and other main event gimmick matches, and he should be fine here.

Spin The Wheel, Make The Deal ~ Lance Storm

If I can be serious for a moment...

He was great in ECW, wrestling in all sorts of gimmick matches, and has just about the same training as Bret Hart. He'd do well in any match thrown at him, and it would be tough to match up against him for the other countries.
 
This team is pretty easy to set up, and there's the added bonus that no set-up can be considered "wrong".
In theory. But you're really putting that to the test with a couple of your picks.

I IMPLORE YOU (YES, YOU! YOU WHO HAS NOT VOTED!) TO HEAR MY PLEA BEFORE YOU VOTE!

Submission ~ Chris Benoit

Hart may be a master technician, but I don't think anyone knows as many as submission holds as Benoit, and his finishers just look like the hurt more. I'd take being wrapped up in a Sharpshooter any day, over being twisted into a Crippler Crossface.

Iron Man ~ Bret Hart

This was a pretty easy pairing for me. Bret can go for a long time, and he doesn't wrestle a fast, high impact, style that would kill him and slow him down. He doesn't take any risks, and that always pays off in these kinds of matches.
In what world does Bret Hart not take risks? He drops from the second in many, many matches, and has even been known to throw a suicide dive on occasion. The man can take risks if need be. However, Bret's problem in the Ironman environment may be that he doesn't take nearly enough risks. He lost an Ironman at WM12 to a man who took MORE risks than him. Are we really to believe that a lack of risk-taking (which there won't be) will be a good thing for Bret? I think not. Your logic, thus, is faulty.

Benoit, on the other hand, has won two Ironman matches. One of those was against a man (Angle) who is being given consideration as Team USA's Ironman representative. And one HAS TO believe that Benoit stands a better chance against HBK than Hart does, especially with a tap-out victory over HBK under his belt (We ain't talking about 1992 HBK here, people). What about Team Japan? Are we to believe that Benoit doesn't have a fighting chance against the best puro has to offer? And Samoa? Chris Benoit has made The Rock tap out before, and I can't see him have any problem making Rock SQUEEEEEL~! again. Benoit has the answer to a lot of questions that the Ironman event will pose.

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My votes are as follows:

Ironman: Chris Benoit

Benoit has been in multiple Ironman matches and has come out as a successful competitor in that match type. I also think that he has the best chance of lasting the distance in the 60 minute match. He has the experience and for that reason, he gets my vote.

Submission: Bret Hart

You only have to look at how great a technical wrestler he is to have your answer for this one. He is widely regarded as one of the best wrestling talents that has ever graced a ring and whilst I may have chosen Benoit for this match first, this arrangement makes more sense. Look at the man's finisher. Hart will be a good representation in this match.

Falls Count Anywhere: Edge

As has probably been said before, the guy thrives in situations where not everything is set in stone. The man is an opportunist through to his core and when the rules are slightly more relaxed, he has shown us time and time again that he can beat anyone on his day. Edge is the clear choice for this match, in my mind anyway.

Ladder: Chris Jericho

I onyl have one match to prove my point here and it should settle the question in everyone's mind. Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit in the Intercontinental Championship match at Royal Rumble 2000, I think it was 2000 anyway. Nevertheless, that match was the best ladder match I have ever seen and Jericho came out on top. He is the clear choice here too.

Spin The Wheel: Lance Storm

He is probably the most versatile wrestler in the team and also happens to be the only wrestler left.
 
Team Canada

Chris Jericho
- Ladder
Bret Hart - Submission
Chris Benoit - Ironman (30, 45, 60 mins)
Edge - Falls Count Anywhere
Lance Storm - Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal

Benoit is the only person that has won two ironman matches in WWE history, against Angle, who is a potential opponent and HHH who has beaten The Rock, another potential opponent, in the same match. Bret Hart lost the only Ironman match he has ever been in, the choice is obvious.

Benoit would have been good in the submission match too, but by no means would Bret Hart be bad in such a match. He has one of the most iconic submission moves and was a master ring psychologist.

Jericho has never won a MITB like Edge, but he has also never lost a singles ladder match, and the same cannot be said for Edge. Master of hardcore environments Edge will be able to give anyone a decent falls count anywhere match, and has beaten big names in similar matches. LAnce Storm, in many ways the kayfabe weak link of the team, goes into the spin the wheel, as he could beat a few potential opponents in certain environments.
 
I’ve decided to change my votes for the Ironman match and the Submission match. I now want Chris Benoit in the Ironman match. Basically because of the same reasons that have already been stated. He has been involved in more Ironman matches than Bret Hart and has actually won them. He has also competed in several other matches that were pretty long, like the Royal Rumble. So we know he can survive and go for long amounts of time.

With Chris replacing Hart in the Ironman match, I’d like to put Bret Hart in the submission match. He’s whole moveset was based around him wearing down his opponent until he locked in the Sharpshooter and made them tap. He has a great submission move here that many have tapped to and he should have no problems in this match.
 
Iron Man Match: Bret Hart:

The coin flip would've been either Chris Benoit, or Bret Hart. Mainly since they're the only two to truly ever be in this type of situation. I'm going with Hart, against some's wishes, because I firmly believe Bret Hart is still undefeated in the Iron Man matches.

He is the only individual to ever compete in an Iron Man match (30 mins, or 1 hour) and never be pinned. It took Shawn Michaels to push him to Overtime, in which Hart didn't think was even a possibility of happening. On top of that, Shawn Michaels would have tapped in the Sharp-shooter had the time not expired. That, in my book, makes Bret Hart the end-all, be-all expert in Iron Man survival.

Submission Match: Chris Benoit:

Like I said above, it came down to a coin flip for the most part, and some very logical thinking. I went with Chris Benoit for latter reasons. Mainly because Jericho isn't polished enough to compete in a straight-up Submissions match, and Hart is too valuable not to have else where. Benoit is a shooter, and a very technical submission style athlete. Some could even say one of the very best in the world.

Benoit was the first man to make Kurt Angle tap out in a submission style match. (or was it a regular match?) Either way, I firmly believe Benoit is the man for the job here. He's tough, strong and capable of handling more punishment than Hart or anyone else on Team Canada. Benoit gets my nod for the Submission match.

Ladder/MITB Match: Edge:

No brainer here. Outside of a couple fluke losses due to injury, or stupidity, Edge has proven to the world why he is the King of the Ladder matches, and Mr. Money in the Bank. This is honestly the only selection I won't go into great detail over, because I shouldn't have to. Edge's track record in these style of matches is enough to prove my point on why he is the top choice here.

Falls Count Anywhere Match: Lance Storm:

While I've seen Chris Jericho hold his own in some tough Last Man Standing matches, he always seems to come up short whenever the rules are thrown out. Thats why Lance Storm gets my nod, here. Lance Storm made his name in E.C.W, and as such he was forced to grow around no rules and anything goes style of matches.

While Storm isn't going to be the type to take matches to the Extreme, or outside the ring.. he isn't unknown to it, and can survive if need be. Lance Storm holds more weight in this category than Jericho, to me.

Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Match: Chris Jericho:

Finally, while I hate saying this to begin with.. it brings me slight pleasure to consider Chris Jericho the weak link or out cast of Team Canada. This is a former Undisputed Champion of the world. This is a former multi-time Heavyweight Champion, record holding Intercontinental Champion, and countless Tag straps. The point I'm making is.. when I can say Jericho was last to put into a category because I felt he couldn't quite fit right in anything else.. I'm still proud to have him here.

Jericho fits perfectly, to be honest, in this situation - why? Because he finds ways to win, when the situation doesn't seem like he should. Case in point, Undisputed title tourney. Defeated two "Legends" back-to-back. Hes beaten name-sakes in their own style of matches.. which further proves that when his back is up against the wall, he's at his most dangerous. Not knowing what match he'll be in - fits Chris Jericho, more than it'd ever fit anyone else on Team Canada.

And those.. are my picks.
 
Official Team Canada Match Participants



Iron Man Match - Chris Benoit

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Submission Match - Bret Hart

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Falls Count Anywhere - Edge

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Ladder / Money in the Bank - Chris Jericho

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Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal - Lance Storm

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So....I forgot to post who I wanted to represent each match.

Luckily, my votes would have been the results.

The best thing about Team Canada is that you could put any member of the team, in any of the matches and they would have a very good chance of being victorious.
 

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