If you can show this in proportion to amount of Cena Merchandise in relation of other Wrestlers, as well as the proportion of Face to Heel merchandise. Exceeding 12 million. you cannot make the claim that he sold more merch as other wrestlers could have sold more 20% there is 80% unaccounted for. Take away the guys that didn't have any merch and it is quite possible that another wrestler had more merch sales. he is a big sellr of merch but you have to take into account his push at the time and the amount of product he had in which to gain said revenue for WWE.
Well, remember that you have Rey, HBK, HHH, Undertaker, Batista, Orton, Flair, Benoit, Trish, Lita, JBL, Jericho, Angle, Hardy, Big Show, RVD, Booker T, The Dudleyz, Christian, Edge, Foley, Austin, Rock, Eddie Guerrero, Goldberg, Lesnar, Kane etc., all on the card back in 2004 in the WWE. So, unless you want to argue that those guys don't draw anything and sell zero merchandise, the fact that Cena merchandise made up more than 20% is very VERY impressive...especially as a midcarder. And, like I pointed out, the merchandising revenue jumped nearly $20 million in 05 and 06 with Cena on top.
I understand exactly what you're saying, but looking at it in practical terms, it's hard to argue against Cena in that regard.
Also how many 5 star matches has Cena had? 0 from Memory. How many have the Sheepherders/Bushwhackers had? 1.
5 star matches...according to who? You? Meltzer?
And, what does having 5 star matches have to do with Cena's ability. I would much rather watch a wrestler who consistently puts on 4 star matches, then a wrestler who wrestles mostly 2 star matches and pulls a 5 star out once or twice. I'd much rather watch someone who performs at a high level consistently. 5 Star matches mean little in terms of ability. I mean, Brady Anderson once hit 52 HR in a season and led the Majors in Home Runs...does that mean that all of a sudden Brady Anderson was a great HR hitter?
Lol @ Shocky jumping on the Cena bandwagon.
Someone's jealous I think...
By the way, did you get enough proof on Cena's merchandise selling ability?
I think people are missing what i am saying The Sheepherders aka The Bloody Bushwhackers, a tag team that people claim as shit got a five star match. I agree with the majority of Meltzers match ratings, there are some matches that should be there as well but that is beside the point.
I think the Bushwhackers are terribly underrated by today's fans because of the gimmick they had at the end of their career.
Just like Cena haters reasons for criticizing Cena.
Well when he actually starts wrestling I'll watch him, but running around the ring like a ****** and delivering a fireman's carry to win some shitty match isn't wrestling in my book, it's crap
Oh, John Cena's not wrestling? What exactly is he doing then? When he's in the ring for 20 minutes with RVD, or 55 minutes with HBK, what is he doing, if he's not wrestling?
As does the blind adulation of guys like Slyfox and Brian, who don't seem to think that the great and all-mighty John Cena is capable of doing anything even slightly wrong, bad, or immoral, or ever having a bad match.
Of course there are things that Cena doesn't do great. But, he generally does things better than most everyone else. Which is why he is one of the best in the world.
See the difference between them and the blind Cena haters is the fact that Sly and Brian make some sense.
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Amen.
Slyfox on the other hand is one of the best posters to grace these forums.
Thanks.
We've disagreed on Cena ever since we started debating on some YouTube video way back when
That was a LONG time ago...of course I'm still there haha.
Their biggest argument about Cena being good was that he sold a lot of t-shirts......
Actually, my biggest argument is name the last PPV match Cena had that was bad. Go ahead. Try. Name the last PPV match Cena had that wasn't good.
What's wrong with his moves? Seriously I've heard this argument 1000 times and it's never backed up. Just because he does certain moves doesn't make him a bad wrestler.
Well, even though he's 6'2" and 245 pounds, and stronger than an ox, he SHOULD be doing twisting moonsault planchas and stringing together arm wringers and hammerlocks with flips and doing 450 splashes. Didn't you know that's the only way to be a good wrestler? Randomly stringing together moves that make absolutely no logical sense pertaining to his character? Duh!
Well the boards are active again, must mean Cena's back.
It must be true what they say. The man is a draw.
