[Official] 'John Cena is the Greatest' Fan Headquarters

[Lil Wes]

So even after I give you proof you still have an excuse to make. Cena haters never quit.

You have zero proof whatsoever.

Im pretty sure hbks was released after cenas and that it was released in october which only gave one month for hbks dvd. If you look at one of the articles on wrestlezone hbks dvd outsold cenas last week

He summed it up right there.

 

[ortonchamp27]

Wait until Sly comes, I cant find that crap. back up why he sucks


Jericho is a mid carder, MVP is on SD.


give me some video evidence or something, i believe that match was good, and it was legit, and the selling was solid...


that is funny, HHH has the only team in SS history to eliminate all members of the opposite team.. He got down at SS this year and battled back, he beat three people to go into the royal rumble, and i can keep going if you'd like?

well i wont be here for the evidence most likely cause i gotta go soon but ill check it later

i said wwe not raw so mvp is valid and jericho is making his way backup to the main event level, and i dont only watch the wwe for main events i also appreciate solid midcard wrestlers and would appreciate cena much more if he worked a midcard feud every now and then.

Triple h has put over more guys in the last few months than cena has in his hole career. He let hardy get the final pin fall at SS. He lost to orton in a last man standing match at no mercy, which in my opinion is the ultimate way to beat a guy. He put over hardy again at armagedon, as well as putting over cena for the second time at a huge event last night. Not to mention that he hasnt won a wrestlemania match since wrestlemania 19. And as far as snitsky and mark henry go they deserve to be burried and regal is the gm so that had no impact either.

 

[ortonchamp27]

So even after I give you proof you still have an excuse to make. Cena haters never quit.

You didnt give proof you gave a single dvd sale # and thats all. that still doesnt prove that he draws

 

[BooCocky]

Cena got the rest of his career to put guys over. HHH is 38(i think)... He should be putting guys over, and i admit you got me on the WWE thing, you did say the WWE not Raw.

In all honesty HHH did not put orton over at no mercy, HHH just went through two other matches, it gave me the feeling that Orton only won because their was weapons involved and because HHH worked two other matches... When HHH won via the roll up the first match, it was already made too make Orton look weak when he did win later on that night. I dont think he put Hardy over either, Hardy did not win with a clean finisher, he won via a roll up, and the look HHH gave at the end made the whole moment like "how in the hell did Jeff just do that?"

But HHH has buried the tag division, Booker T, and the jobber to the stars Umaga.

 

[Danielson0714]

So when Cena comes out tonight.. Who is going to be the first wrestler to come out there and confront him?? I am going to have to say Mr Kennedey, followed by HHH and then Orton and Jeff Hardy... On a side note what the hell happen to The Big Show?

 

[ortonchamp27]

Cena got the rest of his career to put guys over. HHH is 38(i think)... He should be putting guys over, and i admit you got me on the WWE thing, you did say the WWE not Raw.

In all honesty HHH did not put orton over at no mercy, HHH just went through two other matches, it gave me the feeling that Orton only won because their was weapons involved and because HHH worked two other matches... When HHH won via the roll up the first match, it was already made too make Orton look weak when he did win later on that night. I dont think he put Hardy over either, Hardy did not win with a clean finisher, he won via a roll up, and the look HHH gave at the end made the whole moment like "how in the hell did Jeff just do that?"

But HHH has buried the tag division, Booker T, and the jobber to the stars Umaga.

Even though i slightly disagree with the orton thing i can understand where you are coming from with that. However, i definitly think that he put hardy over regardless of how he won, going into that match hardy was a simple mid carder and he gave what many look at as the top guy in the business a great match and got the clean win and earned a shot at the title at a big time ppv. I agree that he wrongfully burried booker and prolly shouldnt have beaten both cade and murdoch in the same match but thats not the first time a top face has beaten a heel tag team in a handicap match. the only thing about that which was wrong in my opinion was what happened with londrick afterwards. And as far as umaga goes hes a monster heel and his job is to build up top faces and he really didnt bury him as umaga is still thought of as a big time heel as he lasted till the final 5 in the rumble last night and just squashed kendrick last week.

 

[caster troy]

you people do realize the reason why this person is on top cause vince thinks hes the perfect candidate for the next "HOGAN" of this generation. he has a great body, which we all know vince has a fetish for big bodies, i wouldnt be surprised if he gives blowjobs to vince to stay on the top. banging the bosses daughter is no where good as FU**** the boss of the company. we all know how vince loves that american patriotic bull shit and who was better to give that role to then yours truly john "cant wrestle" cena. i dont speak for every american but all the boos i hear i can tell that they dont give a crap about the patriot thing aswell. why doesnt he go fight a FU**** war in iraq then.

and the person who has hulk hogan pictures as his background needs to take his head out of his ass, and needs to download some videos of when he was wrestling before wwe. it was one of the most terrifying things i had ever seen. this man cant wrestle to save his FU**** life. this man could never wrestle, he was only liked because of his rap gimmic and was funny.

and has anyone noticed how MILFS hate cena, i saw one in summerslam on the front row and one in backlash, they were shouting "SAME OLD SHIT". HAHAHA

 

[IrishCanadian25]

just because this man has a worthless crap of wrestling skills, it doesnt mean you have to make a post and defend him

Just because the man is at the top of the company doesn't mean you have to make a post to knock him down. Oh man, wait a second! THAT is the purpose of the forums! Opinions! Who knew!?

 

[IrishCanadian25]

i wouldnt be surprised if he gives blowjobs to vince to stay on the top. banging the bosses daughter is no where good as FU**** the boss of the company.

Do you want to explain to us what this has to do with anything? I mean, it's nothing more than a silly, juvenile statement with no substantial basis or fact behind it. Please, tell me how this statement in particular means a thing to anybody.

 

[Batistabomb10]

I've always been a Cena fan, but when he was injured, I could see the reason for the fans tiredness of him. However, the surprise last night was tremendous. I think that had you suggested that John Cena was going to win the Rumble to a fan a couple hours before the fact, they would have laughed you out of the building you happened to be inhabiting at the time. I am DEFINITELY back on the Cena bandwagon, but I do hope that the WWE keeps him fresh and not bore him into us like his last reign. Other than that, welcome back John!!!

 

[BooCocky]

Even though i slightly disagree with the orton thing i can understand where you are coming from with that.

Fair enough, cant argue with you their...

However, i definitly think that he put hardy over regardless of how he won, going into that match hardy was a simple mid carder and he gave what many look at as the top guy in the business a great match and got the clean win and earned a shot at the title at a big time ppv.

but it isnt a big time ppv for the fillers it is a big time ppv for one match. I believe Hardy would have been more legit if he won via Swanton, not a sneaky pin, but once again, i can not argue with you their..

I agree that he wrongfully burried booker and prolly shouldnt have beaten both cade and murdoch in the same match but thats not the first time a top face has beaten a heel tag team in a handicap match.

see i honestly didnt have the problem with Cade and Murdoch, it was more towards Londrick, they came out to help, and HHH congratulated them by performing his special on two faces who were out too help him (if that makes any sense?)

And as far as umaga goes hes a monster heel and his job is to build up top faces and he really didnt bury him as umaga is still thought of as a big time heel as he lasted till the final 5 in the rumble last night and just squashed kendrick last week.

I can agree with you hear, monster heels are built up then they are usually jobbed to the faces.. he is the jobber to the stars.... So i see your point through Umaga, and i realized he was losing before the HHH feud...

 

[ortonchamp27]

see i honestly didnt have the problem with Cade and Murdoch, it was more towards Londrick, they came out to help, and HHH congratulated them by performing his special on two faces who were out too help him (if that makes any sense?)QUOTE]

That does make sense... im pretty sure that i put that in the original post about the londrick thing and if i didnt i meant too.

 

[player316]

That was cool to keep the john cena return a seceret i was shocked was a good rumble match to

 

[BooCocky]

That does make sense... im pretty sure that i put that in the original post about the londrick thing and if i didnt i meant too.

no, you said that, i was just agreeing, i tried to break it down sentence by sentence( or at least i tried), and i did not see that until i was done writing, that is why i deleted it in my post.

 

[Slyfox696]

I don't buy the whole "Cena sales more" argument and never will until you provide me proof but meh, I do agree with what IC says.

First, I'm going to take you back to 2004. The WWE made $56,400,000 dollars on consumer products (clothing, DVD, games, general merchandise etc.) Of that $56.4 million dollars, John Cena related merchandise exceeded $12,000,000. This was back in 2004, with Cena as a midcarder and holding the US title AND on Smackdown. For those not very good at math, that means that John Cena, as a midcarder, sold more than 20% of the WWE's merchandise in 2004.

Links: http://corporate.wwe.com/investors/documents/HistoricalFinancialCharts2-23-07.pdf

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/johncena/reviews/3481716

The first one links to the merchandise revenue (on page 4), and the second one is the source for the $12 million dollars.

Now, in 2005, which was when John Cena became champion and moved to Raw, WWE revenue from merchandise jumped from the $56.4 million in 2004, up to $76,200,000 in 2005. In 2006, with Cena still holding the title, or chasing it, revenue jumped up to $95,000,000.

link: http://corporate.wwe.com/investors/documents/HistoricalFinancialCharts2-23-07.pdf

Now, keeping in mind the fact that Cena merchandise made up more than 20% of merchandise in 2004 as a midcarder, does one really think that the nearly $20,000,000 jumps in both 05 and 06 are coincidence with Cena being labeled as number one guy? Of course not.

Hopefully that'll be enough proof. If you would like more, check out the WWEShop.com page. Notice how much merchandise is Cena's. If you understand anything about a free market economy, and the laws of supply and demand, you'll understand why Cena supporters can use the high level of selling merchandise argument.

 

[Shadowmancer]

If you can show this in proportion to amount of Cena Merchandise in relation of other Wrestlers, as well as the proportion of Face to Heel merchandise. Exceeding 12 million. you cannot make the claim that he sold more merch as other wrestlers could have sold more 20% there is 80% unaccounted for. Take away the guys that didn't have any merch and it is quite possible that another wrestler had more merch sales. he is a big sellr of merch but you have to take into account his push at the time and the amount of product he had in which to gain said revenue for WWE.

 

[Shadowmancer]

Also how many 5 star matches has Cena had? 0 from Memory. How many have the Sheepherders/Bushwhackers had? 1.

 

[awh123]

I didn't espect to see John Cena last night i was completely shocked. At no. 30 too? see how the wwe is full of surprises. I can't wait to see what has to say tonight on raw maybe a brand switch? (Championship match at WM)

 

[Shocky]

Also how many 5 star matches has Cena had? 0 from Memory. How many have the Sheepherders/Bushwhackers had? 1.

But that is Dave Meltzer's completely unscientific biased opinion. The 5 Star match system is one of the most over rated things in the realm of professional wrestling. How in the Hell is Dave Meltzer's opinion more important then yours or mine. There is no scientific way to establish a five star match, so Meltzer's five star matches are about as important as the poo I took at work today.

 

[Lil Wes]

Lol @ Shocky jumping on the Cena bandwagon.

 

[Shocky]

I'm not Cena's biggest fan, but the blind hatred does get a bit old.

 

[Derf]

I didn't bother reading through all of whatever was said, but I'm in on this group, and I could give all the reasons I'm behind Cena, but they've probably already been said. The reason I'm in this group is because of last night.

The WWE's most predictable superstar pulled off one of the most unpredicted returns ever and won the rumble.

Enough said right there.

 

[xchaingangdiva54x]

it's funny how people hate john Cena, I understand he uses the same moves, but apparently that's what wwe's writers want him to do.
It's stupid how people bash him online, but if they're seeing him in person they completly change their ways.

 

[badboyfredrick]

yeah man ur right cuz am big fan of john cena it isnt is fault becauz i see alot of wrestling in him....and he is gonna stay there for along time...

 

[Shadowmancer]

I think people are missing what i am saying The Sheepherders aka The Bloody Bushwhackers, a tag team that people claim as shit got a five star match. I agree with the majority of Meltzers match ratings, there are some matches that should be there as well but that is beside the point.