[Official] Hulk Hogan Discussion

[Super Crazy]

I hope they don't ressurrect the nWo. I just can't see it working in TNA. It would be even less successful then the attempt WWE made a few years back.

It would be epic to have him and Sting have a confrontation if Sting should ever decide to appear again since I don't think he has since Bound For Glory. Also it would do wonders for AJ, Hernandez, and Morgan to get the rub from Hogan, hell even Joe would do well from it I believe.

 

[8five]

AJ v Hogan would be really really good, Hogan v Sting would be absolutely amazing to see again, Hogan and Nash working together could be really fun. I think the thing everyone is forgetting about is that this is the organization that had Mick Foley win the title. You can't tell me hogan won't be a main event player because this is what TNA does. As for Bischoff I still don't know if he will be in booking but if he has an on air role in any capacity it would be good for the company. Also, if it brings in Flair and other talents ratings are gonna keep going up and this can't do anything but help the product

 

[SavageTaker]

First of all, while it is big for TNA, it will not have the effect it did for WCW. It will pop the ratings, but a long term deal will likely become more and more of a Hogan ego exercise.

I wonder if he goes heel, if they'll bring Scott Hall in as well. What about X-Pac? I don't know if they'd bring in NWO, because of the way it failed for WWE, but they did pretty well with the MEM. The MEM took over broadcasts, held all the gold, etc.... So, I don't know what TNA would do to keep NWO fresh.

If he goes face, there are limited feuds for him. He would only really have Angle, Nash, and Steiner to feud with, and none of those guys need Hogan rub. I would imagine that they would be able to turn Morgan again, but they need to allow him to get consistent pops to keep him moving up.

Heel would be the best way to go. Styles, Morgan, and Hernandez could all do well to get some Hogan rub. It doesn't matter how old he is, a victory over Hulk Hogan is instant credibility. I doubt, however, that Hogan would be coming in just to put guys over, so I interested to see where it goes.

FTS, I think you make a great point however, but I just don’t see it happening (Hogan being a heel). Hogan is a legend in the world of professional wrestling and when it comes to solely wrestling, people respect him. And he’s earned that respect. I think it’s very doubtful that a heel Hogan would work in this day and age just because of how much respect he has gained and because of his contributions to wrestling.

Another thing I wanted to point out, Hogan could still be a face and have an unlimited amount of feuds/matches that put over other talent (which I hope he does with some wrestlers). I think that the face vs. face formula could work and we won’t actually know until we see how the fans react to a face vs. face match with Hogan being one of the faces.

Also, to whoever said that Sting and Hogan being involved with each other would be epic, I agree. I hope that Hogan coming to TNA makes Sting want to resign with them so that we could see them together again for one last time.

 

[ianfromlondon]

This is just yet another tna trying to boost ratings by bringing in yet another person that wwe made famous

didnt work with angle,nash,foley,lashley

so tna go to desprate messures yet again just to try and get fans to tune in for another few weeks

again that dixie girl doesnt know what she is doing, instead of bringing in new stars or trying to build people they take the easy way out and bring in a broken down old man who doesnt know when to call it quits lol

GOOD LUCK TNA your need it,your future is looking more messed up and your getting way to despate now

 

[Deus1138]

Oh dear lord no!

Hogan, LET IT GO! Stop coming back for "one last run!" You had your "one last run" already. It was mediocre. It brought back a lot of nostalgia for a lot of us. But please... let it go. You were never a Ricky the Dragon Steamboat when it came to wrestling. Hell, that guy SHOULD come back after the way he performed at Wrestlemania, but I digress. Hogan, let us remember you the way you were! This is going to be disaster!!

Hogan could barely walk, according to him, after they just replaced his hip, knee, leg, torso, or whatever it was last time!

This is almost as stupid as digging up Dale Earnhardt and strapping him in a remote controlled stock car!

 

[Randolph H]

Guys you need to step back for a moment. This move was not made for the wrestling fanatic. It was cold and calculated.

1. Hogan has been on a media blitz over the past week to gain steam for his new book.

2. Hogan / Bischoff did the unexpected when they got their attention for the book and announced he signed with TNA. No one seen it coming, Talk about Buzz!

3. Hogan is a world wide house hold name breed into the American culture and is an International Mega Star. Hogan will bring a new audience to TNA.

Now what they need to do is put on their best show ever to keep people watching so it becomes habit and they become fans of the younger guys.

 

[Big J]

If this is true, this could be what allows TNA to fix everything that is wrong with them. With Hogan they can do more house shows and afford to use bigger arenas and advertise more. Send Hogan to the Jay Leno show right before the next ppv and TNA could get see an increase in buy rate and ratings.

This is huge if it's true.

 

[Borgata]

Can somebody please tell me why you all are cumming in your pants to see two senior citizens slap the manboobs out of each other. There time has come and gone. Where did all the whining go about the new guys not being pushed because of the veterans holding them down? Talk about hypocrites.

At least TNA can get some new commericals like:
Viagra
Metamucil
Fiber Oat Brand
Term Life Insurance
The famous hovaround chair
And dont forget....The life alert bracelet!

Seriously....

 

[cyborg2040]

This isn't some washed up wrestler from the attitude or invasion eras trying to desperately hold on to whatever fame he may have left. This is "The Immortal" Hulk Hogan. When people think wrestling, they think Hulk Hogan, and it's been that way for 25 - 30 years. So "Mr. Wrestling" has just signed with TNA and you're wondering why people give a damn?

I for one can't wait to see what Hulks role in TNA is going to be. If he wrestles for the company or not doesn't matter, because I'm excited about this, and so are a lot of other people judging by the responses here.

I would like to see Flair come in and play some sort of role with Stings eventual retirement though. I always thought that those two men should leave the business fighting each other.

 

[Mitch Cumstein]

Hogan isn't immortal, he's a dude who bleeds just like you and I. Hate to tell ya all....WRESTLING IS FAKE!

You are missing the point...

Like the guy said, it really doesnt matter if he performs in ring. Its the fact that the character Hulk Hogan is once again going to play a major role in a promotion. And people will tune in to see this cause the character Hulk Hogan is immortal not the man Terry Bolea.

And as far as people saying that this will be short lived due to his age, well it really doesnt have to be because he doesnt have to perform in ring that much. From what I understand, he was hired to be the boss and book as well as play a character. So he will play the character "the boss" and he will be the boss back stage and off camera. And Vince has proven that you dont have to be a spring chicken to make this work.

 

[Lancer]

Wow. This is insane...the biggest name in the history of pro wrestling is coming to the best company currently providing pro wrestling....my head is just slowing down from all the spinning.

With Hogan comes notoriety and exposure, no doubt about it. I just hope TNA can use him correctly, and not get too far ahead of themselves in the process. They're already discussing putting on a Monday night show. Yes, that has indeed been the pipe dream of all TNA loyalists, but too much too soon maybe?

 

[Enigma]

Mark it down: the beginning of the end of TNA.

Short term thinking strikes again.

I'm really sick of hearing this. Do you realize that Hulk Hogan, Bischoff and Flair was the main reason how WCW became a bigger company?

This is not WCW. This is a different year, different time and run by different people. Dixie Carter knows what the fuck she is doing and if things don't go so well, she will obviously release these guys.

Why would you rather see a company try to gain attention but can't put together the star power necessary, now that they get the star power they need people talk shit about it. Make up your damn mind and quit the hypocrisy.

 

[Audioslave]

Dixie not only brought in Russo, but she also threw in Ferrara for good measure. She does not "know what the fuck she's doing".

Everything they've done up til now has been garbage. Everyone just seems like "Another dude on the roster" and no one stands out. At all. The same thing could be said a few years ago for Dixie going after the biggest name, prior to Hogan, that they got in Kurt Angle. What'd they do with him? Nothing. They've been at the same 1.0 - 1.1 that they've always been, with random upswings up to about a 1.3. And they couldn't maintain it.

Be that as it may. This Hogan/Bischoff thing was a smart move, yes. But any idiot with a startup promotion, a bunch of dough and a platform on TV could be all "Hey, lets go after Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff" and get publicity. It's the follow through that matters and what they do with the rest of the promotion.

Honestly though, following through with things in a manner that benefits them isn't TNA's strong suit by a wide margin. They haven't created any breakout stars, they haven't utilized any of the other veterans they have to any decent measure and anytime they get someone with potential, they generally find a way to fuck them up.

I hope it works out for them and I hope they can get their asses in gear, but based on their track record I have absolutely zero faith in any of that happening at all.

 

[Milky_Joe]

I just can't shake the feeling that this is going to end in tears for TNA just like it did for WCW. Sure, WCW was great for a while, but it was this kind of short term thinking that ultimately led to it's downfall, so when TNA retreads the same ground as WCW, but with less financial backing, that probably won't be a good thing.

I'd love to be proven wrong over the coming months, because serious competition within the industry makes the industry better as a whole, but I really can't see TNA gaining any kind of serious ground on WWE in the long run.

 

[D-Man]

I just can't shake the feeling that this is going to end in tears for TNA just like it did for WCW. Sure, WCW was great for a while, but it was this kind of short term thinking that ultimately led to it's downfall, so when TNA retreads the same ground as WCW, but with less financial backing, that probably won't be a good thing.

I'd love to be proven wrong over the coming months, because serious competition within the industry makes the industry better as a whole, but I really can't see TNA gaining any kind of serious ground on WWE in the long run.

Like Sidious stated in an earlier post, just a hunch, but I think that Russo, Hogan, and Bischoff have learned from their past mistakes. I highly doubt that TNA will make the same mistakes that were made in WCW.

With this recent news, all we know is that three men that are familiar with recipes to hurt WWE broadcasting are aligned once again and are taking aim at the top wrestling promotion. They knew how to take a "second rate program" and conquer their rivals before and I think they can do it again. Only this time, they will be more careful about the inner workings of their company, developing talent within it (which they've already begun to be successful at), and making other mistakes. This is a breath of fresh air to wrestling fans everywhere because now both promotions are expected to bring their "A" game and we are all going to benefit from it all.

 

[Eric]

From the front page.

"I spoke to a source within TNA this morning that has exclusively informed WrestleZone that Hulk Hogan is in complete creative control of TNA at the moment. His reach in the company even goes beyond Dixie Carter, and at this point the only person Hogan is answering to is Carter's father.

The future of employees such as Vince Russo, Ed Ferrara and others within management have yet to be determined. At this point, they will remain with the company on a trial basis depending on how well they work with Hogan."

THIS SUCKS.

Thoughts?

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I can't help but laugh at the number of people who want this to fail from the get-go. This mentality points directly to the points covered in the "Are we WWE Shareholders or Are we Fans" thread I posted in the WWE section.

Do you think TNA is going to be bigger competition to the WWE with or without Hogan and Bischoff? The answer is obvious-- with Hogan and Bischoff.

So being that competition puts out a better product from all sides, and creates a healthier wrestling business, why is there the desire to see any competition to WWE squelched? WWE Loyalist smarks truly are the Cancer to the Wrestling Business. And it's sad. You see what the fans have had to suffer through for the past several years, but these "fans" who think they are shareholders would rather advocate more of the same, as opposed to creating competition to stir up the entire wrestling industry.

In other news, I just read on the main site:

I spoke to a source within TNA this morning that has exclusively informed WrestleZone that Hulk Hogan is in complete creative control of TNA at the moment. His reach in the company even goes beyond Dixie Carter, and at this point the only person Hogan is answering to is Carter's father.

The future of employees such as Vince Russo, Ed Ferrara and others within management have yet to be determined. At this point, they will remain with the company on a trial basis depending on how well they work with Hogan.

Additionally, it's being said that when Vince McMahon heard the news that Hogan had announced his signing with TNA during a press conference at Madison Square Garden, he apparently became furious as he considers MSG to be "his building." It wouldn't surprise most people to see Vince take some kind of action in retaliation to Hogan's signing as he is apparently very angry with the situation.

This is very interesting. So basically, it sounds like Hogan is now the Head Booker of TNA and that Russo and Ferrara are underneath him. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the three of them can work together. Hogan is necessary to make the magic happen. And Russo and Ferrara are both very talented writers. None of them are fans of Vince McMahon, so they have a common enemy.

Although I really don't think this is a good idea giving Hogan complete creative control over TNA. Although again, I am not in favor of any wrestler having Creative Control, sometimes you have to bite the bullet, I suppose for a major power play like this in order to take the company to the next level. But it would seem to me like it would have been a better move to give Hogan Creative Control over his character and programs he is involved in, if anything, as opposed to the entire Creative Direction of TNA.

But if this report is accurate, then Hulk reports directly to Bob Carter, as opposed to Dixie.

 

[X]

I am officially incredibly fucking confused right now. How/why the hell did they sign Hogan and then basically put him in charge of the fucking company? Frankly I think this is bullshit, and I'm not going to believe it until a more reliable source than WZ confirms it.

If it's true...wow, what the hell are they thinking? How the fuck did Dixie manage to make this man AHEAD of her in her own company? I thought he was signed to a contract, not purchased the entire damn company. If Hogan is head booker...frankly, alot of my excitement just got turned into dread. I'm going to wait until more word comes out on this before making any judgment calls, but if Hogan is the new head booker of TNA...well, that's just such a stupid move I don't even know what to say.

 

[dude786]

this is jus gna b amazing if it works out well,, ur gna have to grea companys goin head to head like dah old dais ,, alll wwe needs is for the shity draft to be broken

 

[BladeRunner]

This whole "hulk takes over tna" sounds a bit over the top. It may be real, it may not be real. It could be a storyline. Or it could be that they're giving Hulk the position that Jeff Jarrett had. I don't know, the story just sounds like a jump to a conclusion. We need more verified information before we can really make a judgement.

 

[D-Man]

This whole "hulk takes over tna" sounds a bit over the top. It may be real, it may not be real. It could be a storyline. Or it could be that they're giving Hulk the position that Jeff Jarrett had. I don't know, the story just sounds like a jump to a conclusion. We need more verified information before we can really make a judgement.

I love how everything that is too good to be true in the world of pro-wrestling has to automatically be a storyline.

Hogan has publicly had a press conference, been on Larry King Live, Howard Stern, and his picture and likeness is posted all over TNA's website. Reports are POURING into Wrestlezone with more and more details on the deal that he made with TNA. And you still think there's a possiblity that this is a work?? You guys haven't been watching wrestling for long enough.

There is a clear distinction on television as to whether specific occurrences are a work or not and the unclear ones are quickly discovered. This is obviously not a work.

EDIT: Xfear and Blade - I just read the post again. I see where I misunderstood. My bad.

 

[X]

I think you've misread BladeRunner's post D-Man. He's not saying that Hogan signing with TNA could be a work, he's saying that Hogan reportedly now being the head booker and creative guy in all of TNA could be a work.

I'm not believing a word of this Hogan as head booker stuff until we've had a more reliable source confirm it. No offense to the WZ main page, but they've been wrong on more than one occasion.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

I think you've misread BladeRunner's post D-Man. He's not saying that Hogan signing with TNA could be a work, he's saying that Hogan reportedly now being the head booker and creative guy in all of TNA could be a work.

I'm not believing a word of this Hogan as head booker stuff until we've had a more reliable source confirm it. No offense to the WZ main page, but they've been wrong on more than one occasion.

And I agree.

They could be putting the cards in place for a Hulk Hogan heel turn to take over the company and hold the younger guys down .... or something along those lines. In other words, he will take over Foley's role as an Authority figure and play a Heel character, occasionally getting into the ring.

It may be Hollywood Hulk Hogan returning to the ring, as opposed to Hulk Hogan. And this time, they know how to work the Internet (with Bischoff, Hogan, and Russo- who has always been a proponent of using the Internet to his advantage) to set up for a most successful storyline.

I can believe them giving Creative Control to Hogan and giving him veto power over Russo (although I can't say I am in favor of that). But as far as overruling Dixie Carter, and reporting directly to Bob Carter? Very questionable. Possible, I suppose. But very questionable.

We should wait and see. But if so, it can be a very powerful storyline waiting for us.

 

[Enigma]

I am officially incredibly fucking confused right now. How/why the hell did they sign Hogan and then basically put him in charge of the fucking company? Frankly I think this is bullshit, and I'm not going to believe it until a more reliable source than WZ confirms it.

If it's true...wow, what the hell are they thinking? How the fuck did Dixie manage to make this man AHEAD of her in her own company? I thought he was signed to a contract, not purchased the entire damn company. If Hogan is head booker...frankly, alot of my excitement just got turned into dread. I'm going to wait until more word comes out on this before making any judgment calls, but if Hogan is the new head booker of TNA...well, that's just such a stupid move I don't even know what to say.

That's very simple. Her father was the one who obviously wanted to bring him in and she followed his wishes. Remember, Bob Carter is the Ted Turner of TNA. If Hogan doesn't do anything positive within the company, he can fire him on the spot.

Again, don't jump to conclusions until you see reason too. Everyone needs a second chance in any situation and just because of the whole WCW situation doesn't mean TNA will end up the same way or be any worse. Learning from your mistakes is the entire purpose of life sometimes and everyone continues to miss that. It just goes to show the stupidity in the IWC.

 

[abrahamclark]

I can't help but laugh at the number of people who want this to fail from the get-go. This mentality points directly to the points covered in the "Are we WWE Shareholders or Are we Fans" thread I posted in the WWE section.

Do you think TNA is going to be bigger competition to the WWE with or without Hogan and Bischoff? The answer is obvious-- with Hogan and Bischoff.

So being that competition puts out a better product from all sides, and creates a healthier wrestling business, why is there the desire to see any competition to WWE squelched? WWE Loyalist smarks truly are the Cancer to the Wrestling Business. And it's sad. You see what the fans have had to suffer through for the past several years, but these "fans" who think they are shareholders would rather advocate more of the same, as opposed to creating competition to stir up the entire wrestling industry.

In other news, I just read on the main site:



This is very interesting. So basically, it sounds like Hogan is now the Head Booker of TNA and that Russo and Ferrara are underneath him. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the three of them can work together. Hogan is necessary to make the magic happen. And Russo and Ferrara are both very talented writers. None of them are fans of Vince McMahon, so they have a common enemy.

Although I really don't think this is a good idea giving Hogan complete creative control over TNA. Although again, I am not in favor of any wrestler having Creative Control, sometimes you have to bite the bullet, I suppose for a major power play like this in order to take the company to the next level. But it would seem to me like it would have been a better move to give Hogan Creative Control over his character and programs he is involved in, if anything, as opposed to the entire Creative Direction of TNA.

But if this report is accurate, then Hulk reports directly to Bob Carter, as opposed to Dixie.

I full heartedly agree with your post. I am literally a WWE Shareholder and this is in fact great for the business. Although McMahon may have simply paid Hogan to go to TNA and destroy it from the inside-out. The latter is unlikely but something we must consider.

Overall, this reminds me of Hogan signing with WCW. More importantly is whether or not Bishoff will be part of the creative team. I have high respect for what Bishoff was able to do in WCW during its heights. I hope they will keep the powers of creative divided; if they do this is great news for TNA.