[Official] Hulk Hogan Discussion

[johnbragg]

You or I are not Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff, we haven't dealt with people the likes of Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, The Rock, Triple H or Hulk Hogan.

Ok, but you know who is? Eric Bischoff. And he said that Hogan used his contractual power of creative control in ways that made it harder for WCW to develop new stars, and sometimes Hogan would veto storylines hours before taping, forcing rewrites on the fly. Kevin Nash seconds what Bischoff said. Others I can't remember tell similar stories.

Maybe everyone but Hogan is lying. You're right, I wasn't there so I don't know.

I believed in a little thing called kayfabe and as far as who these people were in real life I could care less. As long as I am being entertained is what matters to me.

Actually, I'm down with that. But when Hogan is doing media appearances and talking about how he's going to "run TNA", be "the boss" and "just like WCW, except it's going to be official."

That's when I stop debating the entertainment value of wrestler Hulk Hogan (who I'm personally not big on, actually) and start reviewing the resume of wrestling businessman Terry Bollea.

People like you StopFantasyBooking and johnbragg are obviously more concerned with the backstage politics than the actual artform itself.

I am fascinated with the backstage politics. But even if I weren't, the backstage politics has a lot to do with how good or bad the product on my TV is. And in this case, how long the TNA product stays on my TV. Because my opinion is that promises were made to Spike and/or to Panda Energy in Dallas about what Hogan would do in terms of ratings and revenues, and I don't think those promises will be fulfilled. And when that happens, businessmen tend to cut their losses and walk away.

As for knowing anything about the wresters: According to my wife, who met Kevin "Diesel" Nash in a strip club when she was in college, (that sounds awesome, I know), Nash was a nice guy in person. Shawn Michaels didn't go to strip clubs even then, which disappointed them. She is dismayed at how old Nash is now, since it means that we are that much older, too.

 

[mayhem]

Hogan won't mess TNA around. I think he will sreiously come to TNA but he will hold down a lot of the young talent because TNA Management will worship him for ratings and money. Sadly with Jarrett gone Hogan will be using his ego to his advantage and will most likely be given a world title run especially if Foley got one.

If Hogan does mess TNA around the fans won't miss out entirely because we get to see the young talent at the top of the card which is slowly coming through.

 

[Duke3D1990]

As far as TNA is concerned its a WCW reunion now, Eric Bischoff and Hollywood Hogan comming to the company it's gonna be amazing Jeff Jarett really did good right here.
Now on the other side for WWE, rumor is Eric Bischoff wants to move TNA to Monday Nights, so anyone who remebers the late 1990's of wrestling nows whats gonna happen there. My views on what I think TNA will do is: start up the nWo again "vince didn't like it", another Hogan and Sting rival or something like that. They have all the talent they need to give the WWE a run for it's money and with Eric on board he will give it the push it needs to kick Vince's ass once again.

 

[johnbragg]

Countdown to the TNApocalypse continues.

The Bad News: Hogan indicates to Australian radio that he has a slice of TNA "for real" unlike Jarrett and Foley who have storyline part-ownership (pretty sure Jarrett has real part-ownership, but whatever). Says he's firing the writers in TNA, "they can go to the back in case we need to write a jingle."

The Good News: Bischoff remembers how he built WCW to greatness.

...I said, this is WWF, this is us. The WWF is the best in the world at these things. There was no way I was going to be better at the WWF at the things they were great at. They were number one, we were number two, but the distance between number one and number two was light years. We might as well have been number 222 at the time. And I knew since I couldn't be better than them - there was just no way possible to be better than them - I knew I had to be different than them.

That's what I did with my legal pad. I made a list of everything I could think of that was an element of their show or how they produced their show or their creative content or their character definitions. Every single thing that I could break down, I broke down. And then I picked the ones that I could relatively easily attack and make sure there was a gigantic differentiation between them and us. I firmly believed then, and it's been reinforced time and time again, that you have three choices in life when you're competitive. You either are better than your competition, you're different than you're competition, or you're automatically by default less than your competition. Well, I couldn't be less because that was a career-ender.

So I had two choices. I either had to be better or I had to be different. And I knew I couldn't be better. There was no reason for me to try to copy their formula because I would have failed miserably. So I was really only left with one choice different, and that's what we did.

If Bischoff does that again, then TNA will do well, even if they never equal WWE's buyrates or live gates or ratings. The Knockouts, the X-Division, a super-athletic World title scene, and Abyss in hardcore matches would be the four building blocks, four things that WWE just doesn't have interest in.

I predict Bischoff moving TNA into small, compact buildings with a cramped feel. More like ECW than WCW. As the manager from Spinal Tap said, "Their appeal is becoming more selective."

 

[drondog]

I don't see TNA doing anything good with Hogan. The Hulkamania tour is a flop. They are getting the same attendance as a TNA PPV with TNA giving out free tickets. The problem with Hogan, is Hogan. He'll never change. Yea if he comes in as the attacker to AJ it wouldn't suprise me. WOW Hogan is going to hold down the new talent for his long promo's and 40+ old crippled buddies. Why does TNA waste their time with these old starts. Yes its Hogan, great he does bring fans, but fans are tired of the "Hollywood" gimmich and certainly tired of the," Hulkamania is gonna run wild on you crap." Yea everyone will mark out, and it'll get a few good pops. But when Hogan doesn't wanna do something he'll pull his creative control card and go home. Same thing he did in WCW when they wanted him to put over new talent.

If TNA is smart they'll MAKE Hogan help build new stars and not form another 40+ club to hog airtime. They need to get rid of Russo, he's trying to copy WWE and they can't compete with them. TNA was founded on performance in the ring, not sketches and backstage interviews and long drawn out promos like Foley does every Thursday night.

I would love to be wrong about Hogan, and hope he comes in to TNA and does the right thing for the company for once in his life. But with his track record, he'll be all about Hogan. The only reason they announced him 3 weeks ago at Madison Square Garden was because WWE was coming there, and they were hoping to get a rub from it. TNA mentions WWE all the time, Vince doesn't breathe a letter of the word cuz there no threat to him, and with the product their putting on never will be. Russo has never been able to write good stories, Hogan can't book, neither can Nash, and buying all of WWE's old stars for cheap pops isn't going to help you in the long term, your wasting money, (aka Bishoff) that was the fall of WCW and probably will be TNA too. TNA needs to go back to basics and build on the new guys like they have been, put more time into the matches, cut out all the sketches and unplug Foley's mic, and cut his camera time, he isn't performing at the Apolo so drop the comedy its a wrestling show.

STICK TO WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO THE DANCE, STOP TRYING TO COPY WWE, HOGAN IS A COMPANY KILLER AND A SELF-PROMOTER WHO ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF, HE'S NOT IN TNA TO HELP THEM, HE'S THERE TO PROMOTE HIS BOOK, AND HULKAMANIA TOUR, REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS IN TNA FIRST TIME, HE TOOK A GUITAR SHOT AND WENT HOME, CUZ THEY WOULDN'T GIVE HIM HIS WAY. IF ITS NOT ALL HOGAN ALL THE TIME, ITS NO HOGAN ANYTIME

 

[bazza21]

i dont know if this is where i should put this but hogan to tna i smell train wreck i hope i am wrong as competition is a good thing but look what hogan has done on his hulkamania tour he got the legend that is ric flair to come out of retirement and night after night he is beating him putting himself over time after time in very sloppy matches and most are screwy finishes i am sure the austrailian fans would like to see atleast one leg drop on the tour but no its dq or steal flairs brass knucks while the ref aint looking i know it aint the ric flair tour but to have hogan beat him every night so far is an insult to flair and spits in the face of his match with michaels now i am a hulk fan and i never thought i would say this but if this is what hogan can do now then its time bischoff took old red an yeller out back cock the rifle and put the poor old dog out of his misery

 

[Pathogen]

I've always disliked Hogan, so this announcement makes me feel very, blergh! When he debuted in WCW, even though I disliked him, it got my attention. When he turned heel, I had to watch every week. Once again, TNA ejaculates prematurely. Though, it really offers alot of the younger guys a chance to get over, by joining a very small elite group of people who have beaten him.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Needless to say, not everyone is overly thrilled with Hulk Hogan's eventual presence within TNA. I'm certainly not and I'm hoping that any fears I have towards him being a hindurance to TNA turn out to be mistakes on my part.

That being said, I just don't believe that Hulk Hogan is going to be the answer to Dixie Carter's prayers. Dixie Carter wants to get TNA to the next level and I just don't think that Hogan can give Carter the drastic increase in TNA viewrs that she wants in the short span of time that she wants them. I just don't believe that Hogan can draw that well anymore. Nobody is expecting him to draw like he was 20 years ago, but his wrestling ventures over the past few years show that Hogan might not be the ratings bonanza that TNA management hopes.

In April 2007, Hogan co-promoted the PMG Clash of Legends event in Memphis, Tennessee with the current owner of Memphis Wrestling. The show was advertised consistently on the Memphis Wrestling tv show, all over local tv and radio, fliers were put up, etc. Hogan's name was connected to the show, he promoted it and the main event was supposed to be him against Jerry Lawler. A few weeks before the show was to happen, Lawler pulled out and Paul Wight, AKA the Big Show, took his place as he wasn't a WWE employee at the time. As far as I'm aware, there wasn't a mass exodus of fans, there wasn't this rush for fans to get their money back when it was heard that Lawler wasn't going to be in the show. The event went ahead and took place at the FedEXForum, which can hold a little over 18,000 people and it drew a total of 2,200. Despite Hogan co-promoting it, despite him main eventing it, the show simply did not draw.

In October 2008, CMT began airing Hulk Hogan's Celebrity Championship Wrestling. Hogan, while not wrestling in the show, was featured prominently in the show and made appearances every episode for various reasons, usually to judge the contestants and their matches. I watched a few episodes and the show was just awful. It was panned by wrestling fans and insiders alike. The show never garnered decent ratings. I don't believe a single episode ever scored above a 0.4 at anytime during the run and CMT didn't pick up the show for another season and no one else wanted it. The show simply didn't draw.

Right now, Hulk Hogan is in the middle of his "Hulkamania" tour down in Australia. Aside from being a consistent source of jokes from fans and insiders, the tour is generally not living up to hopes. The first show is said to have drawn about 7,500 fans, which normally would sound pretty decent even though it was in an arena that could hold over 16,000. However, I believe about half those fans didn't really pay for their tickets. There have been a number of statements released regarding various deals on tickets. I think I've read that some of the tickets for sections include by one and get one free or are given huge discounts. The second show drew only 2,500 fans and I'm not really sure about the third. At any rate, interest just isn't all that high for Hulk Hogan.

Perhaps the most telling thing overall right now is the 1.3 rating Impact received for the episode in which Hogan's press conference was shown. While a 1.3 is among the best in TNA's history, it's not a number they haven't done several times before and the Hogan segment was the lowest rated part of the show.

What a lot of people are worried about is the fact that Hogan is going around saying that he's going to "run TNA". I just don't have that much trust in Hogan's creative ideas. He's great at coming up with ways to make himself look good, but not so much for others. I also have a lot of trouble believing in Hogan's taste of what's good and bad. For instance, look at the various film and television roles that Hogan has had over the course of his acting career. The only movie he's ever been in that was good was Rocky III and he had no creative input or control over anything in the movie. Everything else the man's ever done as an actor has been crap. You could grow corn 20 feet high from the Grade A shit that is Hulk Hogan's acting career.

 

[RavensFlock1990]

Now don't get me wrong I'm a fan of alot of TNA's talent but right now they seem to be digging their own grave. Dixie Carter is a fucking idiot. TNA has only been around since 2002 and already has a major TV deal and draws in the 1s which is impressive for a company that started off as nothing more than an indy promotion.

Now why I think TNA will die is cause Dixie is so eager to compete with WWE. Is she honestly that fucking stupid? She thinks Hogan is the answer when Hogan is not evn 1/4 the draw he was a decade ago. Somebody needs to inform her its 2009 and not 1999. And they are trying to move to Mondays now just cause its what Hogan wants. Hogan won't draw shit. Hell the first time they aired the Hogan announcement/conference on Impact it was the lowest rated segment of the show. The only reason Hogan even signed with TNA is cause Vince didn't want him back for anything more than a one time RAW guest host and since his wife wiped his bank account dry and his Hulkamania tour flopped he has to get money from somewhere.

Now you gotta wonder does Dixie even look at her own roster and think TNA has the star power to compete with WWE. The answer is hell no. AJ Styles has no fucking chance against Cena. Joe has no chance against Orton or Jericho. TNA has nothing to match DX. Hell if Vince wants he can always move Taker to RAW. WWE has guys like Kofi and Miz on the verge of becoming main eventers. Plus Vince has the money and resources to do whatever it takes to make any needed move.

I'm not bashing TNA but I am saying if Dixie really thinks Hogan is the only thing TNA needs to go head to head with WWE then TNA is fucked. I love the young talent TNA has and I enjoy an alternative to WWE. I don't see why she wants to compete but if TNA moves to Mondays anytime soon then TNA is done.

 

[kee4]

My opinion is that TNA should survive, however we're all so used to what WWE has shoved down our throats for the better part of this decade that it's hard for competition to be created. Comparing TNA's wrestlers to WWE's is also unfair, not because they're bad but because AJ Styles would be a mid-carder in WWE because they wouldn't know how to elevate him to a world champ. I would be shocked and extremely happy if Kofi's main event push culminates in a World/WWE Title run for him because he's not your generic WWE Champ. If WWE keeps going the direction they have been, no doubt they'll be harder competition for TNA to catch up with, but if they fall back into the same old same old then people just might be flipping the channel. TNA puts out a great alternative and there's no doubt that they have enough talent to compete with or without Hogan. If TNA's creative team can pull off some decent storylines and some comedy segments maybe we can get WWE to get rid of the PG rating to compete. I've been a WWE/F fan all my life, but I've enjoyed watching their competition but now days reading some of the blogs out there it sounds like wrestling and some of its fans have become one dimensional and don't want to let in competition. That's just sad.

 

[The Viper]

First off THANK YOU! I have been telling all my friends this because they think hogan is what TNA needs! Hogan cant make tna competition! Hell hes probably going to make it worse by making himself the champion! And even if tna got close to competing Vince would just stop worrying about the E and actually do what the fans want to see. Hell hes done it before when he was getting his ass kicked by WCW every monday! Now WWE is WorldWide! and they have the money and star power to bring down anything in their path. TNA will lose and Hogan will be back rubbing his own daughters ass in no time.

 

[johnbragg]

It's practically spam at this point, since there are a bunch of other threads on this topic (Monday Night Wars, Hogan and Bischoff are Coming To TNA).

But here, once again, is the WWE Five Point Plan to Crush TNA Without Making Raw or Smackdown Any Better.

1. Spread the word in the lockerroom that WWE is at war. If a major star Crosses the Line, grudges will be held. You won't be coming back to a 6-month punishment on ECW or to join the Vince Kiss My Ass Club. You just won't be coming back.

2. Institute a lighter schedule for veteran main eventers. This a big reason that veteran stars consider TNA. It would also help sign RVD.

3. Talent raid on key TNA talent. Kurt Angle. Samoa Joe. Awesome Kong. Free Agent RVD. Angle is a free agent now, I believe. Joe and Kong will be free agents in 2010 or 2011. Those are keystone TNA players. Everyone else except STyles, who is locked up, is an interchangeable part.

4. Talent raid on TNA undercard talent. Anyone in TNA's contract is up, offer a WWE roster minimum contract. Just to inflate TNA's payroll to push them closer to going under.

5. Counterprogram. Those discussions with SyFy? They're for a new WWE one-hour studio show at 8 p.m. Mondays, recaps and previews. Move Smackdown to Thursdays. Possibly throw one match onto that Monday show, with an X-division style belt and a champion exclusive to that show, just to screw TNA.

 

[gtajoker01]

I absolutely agree. if tna lasted this long they can make it without hogan, I respect was Hogan has done but this guy has been pushed down our throats way too much. They need to focus on tna and the wrestlers otherwise if they keep going in the wrong direction then they are going to end up burying tna.

 

[Supersayin]

It's practically spam at this point, since there are a bunch of other threads on this topic (Monday Night Wars, Hogan and Bischoff are Coming To TNA).

But here, once again, is the WWE Five Point Plan to Crush TNA Without Making Raw or Smackdown Any Better.

1. Spread the word in the lockerroom that WWE is at war. If a major star Crosses the Line, grudges will be held. You won't be coming back to a 6-month punishment on ECW or to join the Vince Kiss My Ass Club. You just won't be coming back.

2. Institute a lighter schedule for veteran main eventers. This a big reason that veteran stars consider TNA. It would also help sign RVD.

3. Talent raid on key TNA talent. Kurt Angle. Samoa Joe. Awesome Kong. Free Agent RVD. Angle is a free agent now, I believe. Joe and Kong will be free agents in 2010 or 2011. Those are keystone TNA players. Everyone else except STyles, who is locked up, is an interchangeable part.

4. Talent raid on TNA undercard talent. Anyone in TNA's contract is up, offer a WWE roster minimum contract. Just to inflate TNA's payroll to push them closer to going under.

5. Counterprogram. Those discussions with SyFy? They're for a new WWE one-hour studio show at 8 p.m. Mondays, recaps and previews. Move Smackdown to Thursdays. Possibly throw one match onto that Monday show, with an X-division style belt and a champion exclusive to that show, just to screw TNA.

I have never read such crock of Fucking shit. You think those plans of yours would actually work, TNA is going no where. WCW was destined to fail it's just how life is but TNA on the other hand will survive, beat WWE in ratings and become 1# wrestling promotion in the world. you can BET your ass on it.

TNA has a HUGE following, in some countries i go to WWE doesnt even exist, TNA has wiped them of the core. They can easily make millions of dollars outside the state just like the WWE, but just because they dont draw that well in the states doesnt mean they will flop.

 

[P. Nut Butters]

TNA won't die... yet. Maybe never as far as the "long-term" is concerned. You know, there are reasons beyond the obvious as to why WWE is not even considering TNA in their locker-room at the moment. The death of TNA, in my opinion, could start from those in TNA tripping over their own shoe-laces so-to-speak and blowing up this whole: "We're going to take-down WWE and we're gonna do it as soon as possible" thing. WWE's not bothered by TNA, all the WWE guys say that - and I quite frankly believe them. At this point, TNA needs to focus on being TNA and not being number one. That's what WWE did, but under different circumstances. Vince and the WWF had the window of opportunity that it doubt will ever come again. They wiped out the territory game. Any time you have an element like that, you know it's either going to miserably fail or it's going to make you an unstoppable machine.

WWE made money in the process. Got a lot of fans and attention. Took risks that hadn't been done before... all these different aspects said to people that Vince McMahon meant business. Through all this, you get an experience on how to do things and deal with things, and I know this is probably going to turn into yet another "TNA is just like WCW thread." I still believe that some of WCW's biggest faults came in the fact that they were hugely financed from the get-go. It was like the mindset of "We have the money, that's all we need to get the job done." And yeah, to some extent that helped make money - you got a PPV every month, you got big stars... all the things that money could buy though, got pretty old pretty fast. From coming through territories and making it's own money, the WWF learnt how to adapt and re-invent itself... something that aside perhaps, from the nWo, the WCW never did.

My point is that TNA wants to focus on advancing TNA for it's own good and long-term benefit, instead of saying "We're TNA and we will crush WWE at all costs!"

TNA has a HUGE following, in some countries i go to WWE doesnt even exist, TNA has wiped them of the core.

That, I find very hard to believe. Sure, TNA may have a following - but to claim that in some countries, TNA is so big that the biggest wrestling corporation in history is ill-to-exist is laughable. Do you travel the world statistically tallying wrestling fans? WWE is an international mega-corporation that now pushes wrestling and it's wrestlers into all walks of life, (see WWE Studios, the proposed WWE Comics, Niagra Falls as a few examples). In looking at the magnitude of both companies for a second. TNA is like a regional promotion, sitting next to the WWE. They haven't had time to grow and learn and yet, they think Hulk Hogan will save them?!? It's been said 1000 times, "Every great wrestling promotion needs a filter!" and look at TNA. They are young, when you look at it, and already Jeff Jarrett has been unseated and they bring in Hogan, who only answers to the man signing the money to the company and not to the person who is making it very clear she, (Dixie Carter) is going to take TNA to the promise land. Dixie Carter is no Vince McMahon - but even further, how does she expect to filter what Hogan does if he doesnt answer to her? Of everybody in wrestling, Hogan needs that filter. Eric Bischoff made the mistake of not being able to filter Hogan, and where did that leave Hogan in WCW at the end? Sitting out his contract for four years until 2002, because his creative control had fucked over Vince Russo, young wrestlers and real, long-term competition to the WWF.

TNA is not going to die as long as they don't piss WWE off. TNA needs to grow and learn and not "Strike and Kill" as it seems they plan. Furthermore, Dixie Carter is not a calculating business-woman... and she may play off like she is... but to seriously imagine going head-to-head with the WWE and if she has to put Hogan in power like that... Dixie Carter is desperate.

 

[bazza21]

i gotta say there are quite a few valid points on this thread true tna has done quite well so far but it hasnt done this by pushing its own homw grown talent it has done this by pushing ex wwe wcw angle nash steiner booker dudlys rhyno ect its also true that hogan will not be the thing that allows them to go head to head with raw hogan wants to stick it to vince and is no doubt on promised money so doesnt care if the company fails in the process the other big problem is vince dont care if vince gave two hoots about hogan or tna he would have pulled the new hogan dvd all tna have done is promote a new wwe dvd now as for tna destroying wwe never gonna happen i hope tna dont fail because competition is good no matter how small but as someone put here and i am sorry i dont remember your name and i am paraphrasing it dont matter if they dont draw well in the usa cause they do overseas there are many problems with that 1 you need to draw at home to survive as international tours cost a fortune to put on and are no good for daily programming also dixie has the money for the company as long as daddy thinks its worthwhile if daddy dont think its worth it he pulls the plug and alot of the money for tna will be spent on hogan so not much left over for anything else but lets just wait and see we can start counting the days tna has left when we start counting alot of the old hogan crew turning up eg the nastys the barber ect vince could easily destroy tna quite simply by buying it
shane could buy it and still have change left over will tna die i dont know but remember this the carters dont care about wrestling the mcmahons do

 

[DexVendetta88]

I won't lie here, but TNA was heading in the right direction until the signing of Hogan. Maybe a good couple weeks with TNA pushing guys like AJ, daniels, and Joe (whom they should've been building the company around 3 to 4 years ago). But with the signing of Hogan, I say history is doomed to repeat itself. See, this is what we get when a pro-wrestling organization is owned by a separate parent company. Dixie Carter is definitely out of touch with the fans. I say the final straw would be if Hogan wins the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. Plus these guys don't even have the funds, or production values to compete against Vince and the WWE. The smart move to do is to sell TNA to someone who knows what's going on in pro-wrestling. Unfortunately, all we can do now is watch.

 

[The Doctor]

TNA has a HUGE following

WCW had a huge following, sometimes even larger than WWE's, and we all know how that worked out.

I believe that johnbragg's post has a lot of merit. It can easily happen, sad to say. I don't want TNA to fail, as it's nice to have choices, but if the WWE really follows the plan johnbragg is outlining, they will.

I also agree that TNA is in danger of failing if they try to compete with the WWE right now. However, I believe the time may soon be coming where they can compete, and do it well.

 

[The Con Volt]

If TNA's creative team can pull off some decent storylines and some comedy segments maybe we can get WWE to get rid of the PG rating to compete.

See... this shit bothers me. It seems that people who say now a days that they want TNA to compete, only say this in hope that WWE steps up THEIR game. So few people are actually rooting FOR TNA. They just want them to light a fire under Vince's ass in hopes that the show they really watch will step up their game in retaliation.

Apparently, I'm one of maybe 5 people on this board who want to able to sit down and watch bound for glory in 20 years and hope it's on the same level as wrestlemania. But roughly 70% of wrestling fans never watch TNA out of some stockholm syndrome-like devotion to one of the most fucked up human beings on the face of this earth, Vince McMahon. And thats bullshit.

Bring on the disapproval.

 

[The Con Volt]

TNA has a HUGE following, in some countries i go to WWE doesnt even exist, TNA has wiped them of the core. They can easily make millions of dollars outside the state just like the WWE, but just because they dont draw that well in the states doesnt mean they will flop.

FACT. Ever seen the viewer numbers of both promotions in the UK? some weeks, Impact has the viewer numbers of both RAW and Smackdown combined. No joke.

 

[FaceOrHeel?]

Bishoff is a great idea but hogan!
ffs! the biggest thing they can do to 'promote' this old man with a flabby gut is to have him have a half arsed look at the camera whilst flexing his wanking arm as hard as he can to show his 'pythons' this does not show strength as a wrestler as a person or as a performer. It makes him and TNA look as silly as each other.

if TNA can book bishoff like they did on RAW as the 'general manager' and create genuine heel heat again it could really capture the audience........unless I am wrong I feel the heels in TNA hardly draw heat above the line of cliche'.

Hulk won't be heel. period. he wants to be as popular as possible.

Thoughts on Hogan signing with TNA and posing with his wanking arm flexing as hard as possible because to me hogan is nothing more then what he looks like in that photo. a wan.......

 

[shafe_41]

Ok. So on the main page there's a story about how Hogan has been told not to appear at the Impact Zone because essentially in layman terms, it is... "below him." How in the blue hell can you represent a company, that pays you... nicely, and not appear where they shoot their main show? This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard since somebody once posted how John Cena has ultimately failed as the WWE's top baby-face of the company. Seriously... how can one be a part of TNA and not appear at the Impact Zone? I can't fathom this whatsoever. Who has told Hogan this? What sense does it make? I mean the man's life is in shambles, everybody has heard that crap he's said about Graziano and how his injuries were because of bad karma and not his son's fault, and how he called someone or something and threatened to get the Hells Angels after them. How is anything below Hogan anymore? How is anything below anybody for that matter?

I guess what I'm getting at is could this even work between Hogan and TNA and have him never appear in the Impact Zone? Which essentially would mean that Hogan will never appear on an episode of Impact other than pre-taped segments. I don't see any way, shape, or form that this would work at all. Why would anybody tell him this? Just... why? It would be like the WWE re-signing the Rock, but the Rock never appearing on Raw or Smackdown. Sure there's some differences there, but isn't that the bare bones of it?

Can anybody shed some light or their two cents on to this (IMO) totally ridiculous story?

 

[F-5MONSTER]

I wish i could shed some light on this situation but this is classic tna doing something that doesn't make any sense at all.Telling hogan not to show up at the impact zone either means they dont want crowds to to go crazy at the sight of hogan or they just dont want to satisfy their fans.I wish i could stop bashing tna but now its getting preety hard to.

 

[BWRBrett]

Ok. So on the main page there's a story about how Hogan has been told not to appear at the Impact Zone because essentially in layman terms, it is... "below him." How in the blue hell can you represent a company, that pays you... nicely, and not appear where they shoot their main show? This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard since somebody once posted how John Cena has ultimately failed as the WWE's top baby-face of the company. Seriously... how can one be a part of TNA and not appear at the Impact Zone? I can't fathom this whatsoever. Who has told Hogan this? What sense does it make? I mean the man's life is in shambles, everybody has heard that crap he's said about Graziano and how his injuries were because of bad karma and not his son's fault, and how he called someone or something and threatened to get the Hells Angels after them. How is anything below Hogan anymore? How is anything below anybody for that matter?

I guess what I'm getting at is could this even work between Hogan and TNA and have him never appear in the Impact Zone? Which essentially would mean that Hogan will never appear on an episode of Impact other than pre-taped segments. I don't see any way, shape, or form that this would work at all. Why would anybody tell him this? Just... why? It would be like the WWE re-signing the Rock, but the Rock never appearing on Raw or Smackdown. Sure there's some differences there, but isn't that the bare bones of it?

Can anybody shed some light or their two cents on to this (IMO) totally ridiculous story?

It's complete bullshit, Hogan is on the Genesis PPV poster (which will be held in the Impact Zone) and he signed a contract with TNA, a written legal binding contract that involves him being an on air talent. Hogan has appeared on the XWF which held less people than TNA's soundstage and CCW was taped in a small venue. The story is 100% bullshit because HOGAN SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH TNA. The real story is probably that Hogan's friends and Hogan himself want TNA to have more fans in attendance at Impact and running some outdoor shows might be a cool setting.

 

[BWRBrett]

I wish i could shed some light on this situation but this is classic tna doing something that doesn't make any sense at all.Telling hogan not to show up at the impact zone either means they dont want crowds to to go crazy at the sight of hogan or they just dont want to satisfy their fans.I wish i could stop bashing tna but now its getting preety hard to.

It's a made up/half truth story, if you're bashing TNA for a made up story then you're an idiot. Hogan signed with TNA with full knowledge knowing where they run their shows, and even if he doesn't like it he signed a contract and HAS TO appear on television starting in January.