General No Mercy 2007 Discussion

Did the WWE Hired The TNA Creative team or something? This PPV MAde no sense at all. Sure the match were good but the way they were book made no sense. First thing that didn't make sense, C.m. Punk vs Big Daddy V didn't even last 5 minutes, at the first sign of trouble, Striker show up and interfere. Why, i don't really know and didn't cared. Then a no contest between Finlay and Mysterio. Again am wondering why finish a great ppv match like this. Why not have a clear winner. Then Beth Phoenix winning the woman's championship, at any other PPV i would'nt have minded this but at a ppv which the focus was mostly on the WWE championship, it didn't make sense. Then finally the whole WWE championship saga. First what was the point of giving the belt to ORton if you were just going to buried him after. Giving him the belt at the beginning just to make him lose it to HHH made no sense at all and made Orton look week. Then you had the Umaga vs HHH match which sole puprosed was to injured HHH but after that Umaga lost so quickly that it made him look bad. Then after all that, we get Orton vs HHH 2 last man standing. Orton came out the winner but didn'T look to good doing it so right now he looks like a upper mid-carder that got lucky instead of a true main eventer and has much as i don'T like Orton, he should have look better then he did last night.

The thing is, the could have accomplish the same thing without giving the belt to HHH first and it would have made place for something else. Maybe we could have had a match with MVP and matt Hardy instead of the pizza eating contest. But now, with the way thing got book, we got a new woman's champion that people won'T cared about and a new WWE champion that doesn't look like a champion and then the ask themslef why nobody watch anymore.
 
ok well this was going to be Cena's night to come out on top to beat Orton once and for all but due to his injury Orton walks away the NEW CHAMP not saying im happy or mad or anything if he took out Cena and beat Triple H he has to be the best around.
 
I can't believe all the crying. I think WWE did something right for once and kept the fans guessing, and now everyone cries because Y2J isnt the champ. If you really thought Y2J was coming back last night, your dumb. Of course WWE was going to wait at least one PPV for the buyrates from people who thought Jericho would return at No Mercy. I called it since the first promo aired 2 weeks ago. Return promos usually air a month before a return, not less than 2 weeks from the PPV.

And people are boycotting WWE because someone they dont like is champion? Ever hear of a heel holding the belt? I know you new age wrestling fans arent used to it since Cena and Batista have dominated the title scene in the past couple of years, but c'mon. You people would've hated the Attitude era then, heels were constantly winning the belt. I'm going to get upset because someone who does steroids is champ? I hate to tell you, but you realize Batista is the champ on Smackdown, right? At least 85% of the WWE roster is on roids, so they'd have a hard time finding someone not on them. So that throws at Mr. Kennedy and Umaga since they were also involved in the Signature Online scandal. I could say more, but I'm tired.
 
Think its to WWE's credit they tried something different with this PPV..new champion..and never really seen a WWE title change hands in this manner in any WWE ppv..yes kept fans guessing, and interested..just the breath of fresh air the WWE needed at these troubled times..

its been far too long since we had a heel champion on Raw.
 
Worst PPV I have seen in a very long time, made me wonder if Vince McMahon had decided to resurrect WCW and adopt its style for a PPV.

Giving Orton the title at the beginning was pointless. Reminded me of when HHH was given the WHC and I hated that too. Then having him lose it 15 minutes later was stupid and made him look weak. Then the manner in which he won it back wasn't much better. Full circle, except HHH is now an 11-time champ instead of a 10-time champ. Look out for your record, Flair, it will definitely fall if HHH continues to be given 2 hour reigns.

What did the 6 man match accomplish? Nothing. Having Kennedy pin London proved absolutely nothing. At least if he had pinned Hardy, it could have set up an IC feud, but even this was not accomplished. I guess it would have been hard having Jeff Hardy involved in the ending anyway, he was too busy botching moves and flailing around outside the ring. Just horrible.

A DQ in the ECW match was worse than proving nothing. It made their champ look weak, and unfortunately probably means there'll be a re-match next time. Hard enough to sit through this once, never mind twice. Why even have this match if it's going to be a DQ after 5 minutes?

Pizza eating contest, not even worthy of discussion. If there's going to be meaningless filler time, it may as well be divas rolling around in jello or something. At least this is pointless but looks good, I'm no fan of meaningless diva events but its better than watching one guy puke on another.

Mysterio vs Finlay was OK, but proved nothing. Who cared about this match anyway?

Glamazon vs Candice was laughable, a series of botched moves sold poorly. They almost forgot to ring the bell after the 3 count, I think the guy must have fallen asleep or something.

You know a PPV is bad when the match of the night features Batista vs Khali. Not exactly ring technicians, and this gimmick match was the best of the lot (hard to believe).

Even the hype about Jericho didn't live up. A third secret mysterious video is starting to get boring, get on with it already. If this PPV is any judge, WWE needs more saving than I thought.
 
Magnolia,

You missed the point big time, my friend. You said:

can't believe all the crying. I think WWE did something right for once and kept the fans guessing, and now everyone cries because Y2J isnt the champ. If you really thought Y2J was coming back last night, your dumb. Of course WWE was going to wait at least one PPV for the buyrates from people who thought Jericho would return at No Mercy. I called it since the first promo aired 2 weeks ago. Return promos usually air a month before a return, not less than 2 weeks from the PPV.

The reason we're "crying" as you put it, really has nothing to do with Jericho, per se, but in fact has everything to do with proper show booking and sensible match-making.

The WWE had a huge opportunity to do something truly ground-breaking last night, such as a mini-tournament for the title featuring some WWE superstars (Orton, HHH, Umaga, Y2J (who's returning at some point) and a dew others), and make the PPV memorable. Instead, they gave us an over-abundant dose of HHH, which made me want to do what Matt Hardy did in his "contest".

Last night's PPV was basically a "stroke-HHH's-ego" kind of shitfest, and it neither helped to "make history" nor did it help to continue Orton's stance as a monster heel, which they had been doing up to that point. Vince, and the WWE, majorly dropped the ball last night. Shame, Shame, Shame.
 
I really don't know why everyone is complaining so much!!! Hasn't everyone (well besides the cena fans) been wanting a title change? well you got well 3 at no mercy really!
No mercy was the best PPV WWE has done in ages, for the simple fact no one could have guessed that, normally we are use to seeing the obvious win, cena winning... slightly dull match, with the most interesting part of the match being the crowd chants! now just because Jericho didn't return, just yet, people are complaining, I just don't get it. To be honest I don't get why the majority of you are fans for a start, if you complain so much.
I really enjoyed the fact that the raw part of No Mercy was a lot more interesting and entertaining that it has been for a long time, not to mention the matches where not that bad, triple h, no matter how much you hate him, did three matches, and to be honest they where not rubbish matches.
I don't feel WWE 'dropped' the ball at all, in my opinion they thought fast, it might have been a bit quick paced and sometimes all over the place, but thats what I use to like about wrestling.
Oh and thank god WWE have a heel champion, about bloody time!
 
TO say that this is one of the worst PPV's ever is a bit over exaggerating IMO. I liked the little mix up with the Championship matches last night. When Orton lost the title at the beginning of PPV what did he do later on that night? Being the former champ, he exercised his rights and got a rematch and won the title back. Being the former champ, what do you think Triple H is going to do on RAW tonight? He is going to excersise his rights and get a rematch at Cyber Sunday. It made perfect since to me. I rather have them do it this way than to have the loser lose fair and square the night before and then demand a rematch.

Even though there wasn't a purpose for the six man tag team match, it still kept me entertained and that was all that matter most. The ending by Kennedy was sick.

Rey vs Finlay looked to be a very promising match but unfortunately it was cut short with the fake injury by Finley. I see this fued carrying on to Cyber Sunday.

The womens title's match. Can you say potty break? I am a fan of women's wrestling but this was just terrible. Extreme botchfest.

The Last man Standing match was a great way to cap off the PPV and a great way to start off a fued between Randy Orton and HHH. I'm not even going to waste my time talking about the other two championship matches.

Overall the ppv was decent. It wasn't fantastic but it wasn't horrible either.
 
I didnt see the PPV yet seeing Im currently in Mexico (oh and btw, I go to CMLL next Sunday :)) however I read the results and here is what I think of the WWE title change....

.... of course if theres an open oppertunity, Triple H WILL get an advantage in some way or form so its not quite surprising he is now known as a former WWE champion for a very short term; however, the only advantage is the unpredictability of the WWE title change(s). Many swerves and changes in one evening which IMHO seems somewhat exciting to stir things for the fans a bit, but of course I wont be able to see the PPV until I return to the United States.
 
I was at No Mercy in Chicago and I kept telling my cousin this seams like Raw.
- Going into it there were only 5 matches + an open WWE title.
- Kane and Undertaker didn't have matches or feuds for the PPV.
- Neither Tag title were up for Grabs, that is silly.
- Same for the IC belt on Hardy and the Unites States title on on MVP, they should have been up for Grabs at a PPV.
- They had a Pizza eating contest with the Tag Champs, again taking credibility away from WWE / the tag belts...
- Batista vs Kali match was Slow, the best part was Batista jumping from the inside cage to the outside cage and escaping.

The BEST I took away from the PPV was Finley selling his injery and then attacking Mysterio. At 1st I thought he was faking, then I thought it could be real because the ref put up the X sign with his hands... Then it turned to be fake. I admit I fell for that, it was great, it added to Finley's character.

The Main event was good, and Randy was booked to get the title from Cenda, so I saw him getting it back from HHH.

Again, Great the PPV was in Chicago, but I think it was similar to a Raw event.

:twocents: Shane
 
As much as I think this was a lackluster ppv, I think we need to give credit where credit is due. For the amount of time they had, roughly 6 days, they could've done a lot worse. If they had more time to plan this out, they could've done better, but even so, they could have separated the IC and tag team titles into matches rather than have that 3/3 one. Of course, every other match in the ppv was just an abomination, so ready your spears lol.

You really have to give credit to HHH though. Here's a guy who is getting slower and older but agreed at pretty much the last minute to have 3 matches and carry the entire ppv - one of which was no-DQ. Most people that are even the young talent wouldn't be able to pull that off. Plus, even though I think the switch was a little too close to burying Orton rather than building up credibility, the fact that he lost it later on helps his case. If he'd have won it immediately from Orton and then kept it for a month, that would be selfish and rude.

Let's hope that for Cyber Sunday, we finally get that US Title match (ladder match I hope), a Hardy/Shelton IC match, Batista/Undertaker/?/? with Taker winning the belt, and hopefully the rest of the championships defended in a fresh way. I think they need to really give us something worth being excited for, since every ppv since Wrestlemania, in my opinion, has fallen much shorter than what they aimed for.
 
why the hell some of you continue to ask "why people are complaining" or "why are people crying" uh maybe because PPV cost money? I feel like I wasted $40, many of times I was turning to the Bears vs Packers games hardcore WWE fan or not that was a very average PPV

to me it seems like HHH pulled some strings and got his Wife and Father In Laws to make the entire night about him, even though he lost they put him over big time, 3 matches, all the backstage stuff was about him come on

I think it is Orton time I am happy he is champ unlike others, I don't want to watch HHH have another run, 11 times is more then enough what he is trying to catch Flair? he is not even on Flair level, HHH was good but I don't consider him one of the best ever
 
While i do agree i wasted 40 dollars last nite .. heres a few thoughts

*HHH looked extremely weird with the New Non spinner Version of the WWE TItle.. At least now they have plenty of footage for future montages of his career wit the WWE Title .. who can believe in Umaga after he was practically squashed.


*Khali can actually climb the cage? Batista doing a spiderman impersonation?!
Damn i would have loved to see Khali catch the powerbomb off the ropes ..that wouldve made the ppv worthwhile

*So Evolution holds the belts for both shows.. and batista is the smackdown champ after all(WM 21 reference)..

*The six man tag was sloppy but fun... jeff hardy dropping one of the tag champs on his head was sick ..So was the Kennedy finisher off the rope

*the pizza eating contest, the cm punk match and the ridiculosly long promo at the beginning made it feel like we were watching a 40 dollar Version of saturday nights main event except this was on a sunday

*woman's match..Terrible

*mysterio/ finley- good until the tastelessly worked finish

*HHH/Orton 1- good match predictable ending
*HHH/Orton 2- Even better match with a better ending.. Last time we saw orton in a championship match against HHH before no mercy, he was getting a pedigree on a chair en route to losing the World Championship after a month.
 
Worst PPV I have seen in a very long time, made me wonder if Vince McMahon had decided to resurrect WCW and adopt its style for a PPV.

Giving Orton the title at the beginning was pointless. Reminded me of when HHH was given the WHC and I hated that too. Then having him lose it 15 minutes later was stupid and made him look weak. Then the manner in which he won it back wasn't much better. Full circle, except HHH is now an 11-time champ instead of a 10-time champ. Look out for your record, Flair, it will definitely fall if HHH continues to be given 2 hour reigns.

What did the 6 man match accomplish? Nothing. Having Kennedy pin London proved absolutely nothing. At least if he had pinned Hardy, it could have set up an IC feud, but even this was not accomplished. I guess it would have been hard having Jeff Hardy involved in the ending anyway, he was too busy botching moves and flailing around outside the ring. Just horrible.

A DQ in the ECW match was worse than proving nothing. It made their champ look weak, and unfortunately probably means there'll be a re-match next time. Hard enough to sit through this once, never mind twice. Why even have this match if it's going to be a DQ after 5 minutes?

Pizza eating contest, not even worthy of discussion. If there's going to be meaningless filler time, it may as well be divas rolling around in jello or something. At least this is pointless but looks good, I'm no fan of meaningless diva events but its better than watching one guy puke on another.

Mysterio vs Finlay was OK, but proved nothing. Who cared about this match anyway?

Glamazon vs Candice was laughable, a series of botched moves sold poorly. They almost forgot to ring the bell after the 3 count, I think the guy must have fallen asleep or something.

You know a PPV is bad when the match of the night features Batista vs Khali. Not exactly ring technicians, and this gimmick match was the best of the lot (hard to believe).

Even the hype about Jericho didn't live up. A third secret mysterious video is starting to get boring, get on with it already. If this PPV is any judge, WWE needs more saving than I thought.

shut the hell up and stop crying like a babby you must have forgot that there top man in the wwe got injuried they had to come up with something diffrent in six days best ppv of the year
 
what a joke the wwe title situation was
first at the start of the show mcmahon awards the wwe title to randy orton, then triple h comes out challenges orton for the title, hhh defeats orton to become the new wwe champ, later that night hhh defends the title against his scheduled opponent umaga, hhh beats him and retains the title, then in the main event of the show randy orton defeats hhh for the wwe title in a last man standing match, 3 wwe title matches, 2 triple h matches, 2 wwe title changes, 2 randy orton matches, man thats too much. i would have picked mr kennedy to face orton and win the wwe title but at least if they were going to do triple h vs. randy orton then they could have done it simple and clean like this, its main event time, mcmahon and orton come out, mcmahon is about to award the title to orton when triple h comes out, he would have already defeated umaga in the fourth match of the night, hhh challenges orton to the last man standing match for the vacant wwe title and orton wins the title, 1wwe title match, 1 randy orton match, 2 triple h matches, its simple but now that this has happened orton is now a 3 time world champion, they should have saved his 3rd title reign for next year with the world heavyweight title and triple h is now 11 time world champion they should have saved that for wrestlemania, where hhh will defeat mr kennedy for the title but when that happens he will be a 12 time world champion, what is up with all that, like i said it wouldve been better if kennedy won the title
 
A simple review is in order, but I thought I'd spice it up by adding some extra comments. Read on & see.. Big Will's "take" on No Mercy 2007.
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World Heavyweight Championship: Punjabi Prison Match: Batista v. The Great Khali: In my opinion, which will be heavily criticized.. this was the STEAL MATCH OF THE NIGHT! What I mean by that is this.. everyone assumed it was going to be a "write-off" match, that sucked. And while it wasn't what the Main Event was, it was never officially build to be. This match surprised me with Khali's ability to climb, who knew?! Also, Batista's "leap of faith" was pre-predicted, but still nice to see. And the ending was brilliant. I honestly didn't know whether or not Khali was going to win, just because all the tall bastard had to do was drop. He was literally closer to the ground than Batista, even WHEN Batista jumped. Overall, I was impressed.. not enough to wanna see a rematch, but thankful that this gimmick match wasn't a complete nightmare that everyone assumed it'd be.

W.W.E. Championship: Last Man Standing: Triple H. v. Randy Orton: How ironic is it that the match that started the night, to determine the Championship.. would be the match that ended the night, to determine the same Championship? One of the better LMS matches I've seen in recent memory. Both men had great positioning to win it all, & while I went with Orton.. after Triple H. got up from the R.K.O. on the chair, I thought for the brief moment before he collapsed again, that he might win it there. Then again, when he blocked the "Kick of Destiny." (remember, I named that!) Finally, the finish was awesome.. & honestly, the table Monday night may of been meant to break, but tonight, I think it was planned for it not to. Either way, big moves on tables that don't budge.. priceless.
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:headbanger: I Agree with you 100%
 
Okay, this is in general with a lot of people that are complaining about several parts of the Pay-Per-View.. so please read carefully, as these are my views on it.

W.W.E. Championship Situation: Most of you are complaining, simply because Triple H. didn't "keep" the Championship, but you turn around & play it off as if you're upset that they played "hot potato" with the belt all night. Fact is, Randy Orton was originally scheduled to win over John Cena to begin with.. so Orton as Champion, wasn't really them changing the finish they had in mind, it was just trying to swerve the fans from assuming Orton would get it cleanly.

I think it was nicely done. They put the two biggest guys (currently not injured) from the Raw side of things, & had them playout throughout the whole p.p.v. Like it or not, its better than a battle royal type finish, or worse.. a single's match.

Chris Jericho NOT Debuting: Its funny, during all the promos that ran through every week, I don't recall a single one mentioning that he was suppose to debut at No Mercy. In fact, I've yet to see any type of promo explaining (clearly) that Chris Jericho is even debuting anytime soon, at all. So don't confuse W.W.E.'s mind-games with your own gullibility.

P.P.V. Overall: Finally, I read above someone complaining about the price & flipping back & forth between the Green Bay Packers/Chicago Bears game. Look, if you don't wanna pay $40.00 for a W.W.E. p.p.v., then don't. But if you do, don't expect it to be completely worth it through just YOUR point of view. Its very, extremely rare, that a W.W.E. p.p.v. works out, 100% in a person's favor of everything they wanted to happen.

Furthermore, W.W.E. hasn't put on a solid p.p.v. since Wrestlemania, if even then. So why would you even assume a second rate p.p.v. like No Mercy was going to explode with everything you ever dreamed of? Fact is, the p.p.v. delivered on every aspect of what it was suppose to. It brought you a new Champion, 3 different times to be exact. (4 if you count the Women's title changing) It brought you high-flying, fast paced with the 6-man tag.. it brought you a gimmick with the prison match.. it brought you smash-mouth, holy sh*t with the Last Man Standing.. it brought you diva action with the women's match.. & it brought you "wtf" with the Finlay/Mysterio match.

You're probably upset because Green Bay lost, or you're the one Big Daddy V fan that got pissed off because his match didn't last 20 minutes. So, pay $40.00 & DON'T get your hopes up.. or save the money, rent the DVD when it comes out in two monthes & say.. "wow, I'm glad I watched my Packers lose on that night instead, it was far more entertaining."

EVERYONE has an opinion, & "I" value each of them.. but enough is enough with the stupid complaining, over how the p.p.v. didn't live up to YOUR hype. Tons of p.p.v.'s don't live up to what "I" want them to be like.. but last time I checked, Mr. McMahon wasn't calling me on the cell saying.. "Hey Will, we're a little mixed up right now.. how do you think we should run tonight's p.p.v.?"
 
like i said it wouldve been better if kennedy won the title

why? the guy just came back monday after being suspended for 30 days. If he won the belt, then the WWE championship would be a joke.

I can't believe the complaining because the past 3 or 4 months the PPV had the same exact matches, vs. the same exact people, and this PPV is different and its the worst PPV? I guess you guys really wanted Orton vs. Cena 6 with Cena winning, it's what you're used to. And since you were getting Batista vs. Khali 4, I guess a different PPV was too much to handle. And I feel still that half the reason so many people are upset at the PPV is because Jericho didn't return, whether they admit or not.
 
in actual fact kennedy is the one who is really responsible for injuring cena with the bothched move not orton, orton goes better with the world heavyweight title and kennedy goes better with the wwe title and world title too, but as he's on raw right now, the wwe title
 
even though kennedy would be champion, they couldve still done hhh vs. orton at cyber sunday, then you all would be wondering who kennedy would face, well kennedy would go one on one with jeff hardy, wwe title vs. ic title, fans choose which title is on the line, they would obviously choose the wwe title because they think jeff might win but he wouldnt and kennedy retains and defends against shawn michaels and others until wrestlemania where he loses the title to hhh
 
i wish ppl would stop complaining about this ppv bcoz it was gd with the xception of ecw title match and womans match that no1 cares about. to the ppl hoo r mad that 'orton losing in the 1st match made him look weak', hes a heel incase u didnt realise, heels always take advantage or cheat 2 get to the top in this case umaga injuring hhh and it made sense to me. no chance y2j was goin 2 come back at no mercy and dont cry if he doesnt show at cyber sunday wwe might wait to survivor series as its a big ppv. ok maby the 6man tag didnt make sense as it was the same as raw but kk in 4 benjamin but hoo cares if its a gd match then its ok, wwe might just b starting a kk hardy feud for all u know. hopefully cm punk defeats big daddy v in a loser leaves wrestling this week but thats another topic. ino ppl r gonna hav a come back to this and tell me y thy think it was sh*te and ur entitld 2 ur own opinion but just bcoz things dnt make sense 2 u or didnt like the match dnt mean thr wont b a gd match soon.
 
I thought that giving Orton to belt at the beginning of the show was a good move.. Of course Matfan's idea of the mini tournament would've been a good idea. Especially if it was like the old school king of the ring, all matches in one night. But none the less I liked the way they did it given the time they had to work with Cena's injury. It kind of reminded me of the old ECW days when Taz would fight Candido in the main event in the opener, win and then they'd make a completely new main event for later against Bubbah Ray Dudley.. those days were classic.
 
ECW Title match blew, everything else was DECENT. Well, the MVP/Hardy segment was kinda disgusting but hopefully they will wrestle soon. I thought I was going crazy, HHH music like all nite! I've his theme nuff. Main Event was good, fantastic, OK PPV at the most, looking forwards to Raw, lawls.
 
The PPV was ok. I give it a C+

HHH vs Randy Orton LSM was great. 5 stars match of the night.

Basista vs Kali- sucked.

Women Title match- ok That Beth Phoenix is Hot
 
shut the hell up and stop crying like a babby you must have forgot that there top man in the wwe got injuried they had to come up with something diffrent in six days best ppv of the year

First of all, RED DEVIL, who the hell are you? I never heard tell of you before, yet you are on here calling me a crybaby for posting my opinion (which seems to be shared by most of the people posting here) about No Mercy, which, last time I checked, was a forum to discuss your thoughts and opinions on this PPV.

I didn't forget that Cena was injured and they had 6 days to come up with something different. I could have come up with better ideas than that shit in 6 minutes. I don't typically bash the WWE in this manner, but the PPV last was ridiculously bad.

Why not have Orton come out running his mouth about being the Legend Killer who put Cena out of action (like he supposedly did to HBK, RVD, etc.,) and have him extend an open challenge to anyone backstage to go for the title. Then have him beat HHH in the manner he did. Same bottom line, but without giving HHH a meaningless 11th title "reign," without making Orton look like a weak champion, and without wasting valuable PPV time which could otherwise be used for a Cruiserweight title match, either or both of the tag team titles to be contended, or even just another filler match.

Speaking of filler matches, they have to set the stage for something, and the 6 man match set the table for nothing. Did not advance the tag team situation, did not establish a feud between Hardy and Mr. Kennedy. Did nothing. Have Kennedy pin Hardy, for example, and then have them go one on one at Cyber Sunday. Or have Cade and Murdoch defend the belts against London and Kendrick at CS.

5-minute DQ matches accomplish nothing except piss off people who have just spent $40 to watch crap, much like puking pizza does. And I, for one, did not expect a Y2J appearance, or a title shot, or certainly a title victory last night. But it would have been much cooler to see the newest teaser video air in the stadium while Orton was celebrating his victory, setting the stage for whenever Jericho does return, telling Orton "I'm back and I'm coming after you."

There, RED DEVIL, you jackass, it didn't even take me 6 days to suggest just a few ideas which would have been better than what I watched last night, I'm sure there are countless other suggestions which people in the wrestling industry, with six whole days to plan, could have come up with, that would have been better than No Mercy was. So next time you post something, give it some thought before you post a stupid 3 line post that makes you sound like you're about 12 years old.
 

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