General No Mercy 2007 Discussion

[ACTAFOOL]

well i just watched the ppv after waiting 12 hours to finaly download the damn thing, and guess what, i enjoyed it! XD

ok i know many ppl are saying the booking was stupid, nothing made sense, WWE dropped the ball, blah blah blah, well i think they did a great job cuz i think for the 1st time this whole year i didnt know what was gonna happen!, AND, i got 2 entertaining matches out of randy orton and HHH... damn i didnt expect this, but some1 actually made orton entertaining, good job HHH, lol, joking.. even though i hate orton and think hes a disgrace to the buisness, hats off for him and triple H putting on 2 entertaining matches where neither needed to be carried

as for ppl wanting Y2J.... why?? they should use him as a great angle later, i dont think now is the best time to be honest, i really didnt want him to appear last night...

and for ppl who wanted new main eventers.. are u kidding me? no, i dont care how bad the main event scene is on RAW, hardy isnt WWE champ material, neither is carlito, neither is benjamin, get over it, if i actually saw one of them going up against randy for the belt i would see how doomed WWE really is

+ the bonus match was awsome

and i really enjoyed the LSM, hell what can i say i love gimmick matches, and without cena in the title picture ill be able to see many more =D

great job on WWE for the ppv, after reading about it, it does seem stupid, but i think any1 who didnt watch it should watch, it was a fun PPV, it actually had some good matches for a change!, also loved the mysterio match until the end... and the best part, like i said b4, is it wasnt so predictable, though i hated seeing orton walk out the champ.. but still =/

probably one of the best PPVs of the year since it kept me guessing and gave me some great matches as oppose to the other HORRIBLE PPVs.. who ever didnt like this PPV either didnt watch it or really wanted some1 else other then randy and HHH to be headlining ....

 

[cobain]

I can't believe all the crying. I think WWE did something right for once and kept the fans guessing, and now everyone cries because Y2J isnt the champ. If you really thought Y2J was coming back last night, your dumb. Of course WWE was going to wait at least one PPV for the buyrates from people who thought Jericho would return at No Mercy. I called it since the first promo aired 2 weeks ago. Return promos usually air a month before a return, not less than 2 weeks from the PPV.

And people are boycotting WWE because someone they dont like is champion? Ever hear of a heel holding the belt? I know you new age wrestling fans arent used to it since Cena and Batista have dominated the title scene in the past couple of years, but c'mon. You people would've hated the Attitude era then, heels were constantly winning the belt. I'm going to get upset because someone who does steroids is champ? I hate to tell you, but you realize Batista is the champ on Smackdown, right? At least 85% of the WWE roster is on roids, so they'd have a hard time finding someone not on them. So that throws at Mr. Kennedy and Umaga since they were also involved in the Signature Online scandal. I could say more, but I'm tired.

I don't think that it's jsut any heel.
It's because it's Randy Orton.
I personally loved when Edge was champion and he was a heel.
Orton not only was involved with steroids but lso smoked pot, trashed a hotel room, allegedly use a divas luggage as a toilet (I haven't seen proof that this is true) and is a jerk both on and off screen. Yet he is rewarded. He wasn't punished for steroids Kennedy and Umaga were, thet's the difference there.
You say 85% of the roster are on steroids, do you have physical proof to back that up?

Bottom line, Orton isn't jsut hated because of his chrecter, he's hated for who he is as a person and people don't like that he is rewarded for his negative actions.

 

[magnolia]

I don't think that it's jsut any heel.
It's because it's Randy Orton.
I personally loved when Edge was champion and he was a heel.
Orton not only was involved with steroids but lso smoked pot, trashed a hotel room, allegedly use a divas luggage as a toilet (I haven't seen proof that this is true) and is a jerk both on and off screen. Yet he is rewarded. He wasn't punished for steroids Kennedy and Umaga were, thet's the difference there.
You say 85% of the roster are on steroids, do you have physical proof to back that up?

Bottom line, Orton isn't jsut hated because of his chrecter, he's hated for who he is as a person and people don't like that he is rewarded for his negative actions.

You bring valid points, but I think what he does offscreen shouldnt be held under a microscope because he's a celeb. I know he's supposedly a role model although with the crap on WWE programming now I dont see how kids should even be allowed to watch. (did they seriously have Teddy have a viagra related heart attack?) My opinion is that it's pointless to scrutinize him for what he did, especially since WWE and TNA are just a man's soap opera with some wrestling mixed in.
And I don't have any photographic or written proof, but I mean c'mon, half the wrestlers veins in their arms are bigger then half the people on this forums arms.

 

[cobain]

You bring valid points, but I think what he does offscreen shouldnt be held under a microscope because he's a celeb. I know he's supposedly a role model although with the crap on WWE programming now I dont see how kids should even be allowed to watch. (did they seriously have Teddy have a viagra related heart attack?) My opinion is that it's pointless to scrutinize him for what he did, especially since WWE and TNA are just a man's soap opera with some wrestling mixed in.
And I don't have any photographic or written proof, but I mean c'mon, half the wrestlers veins in their arms are bigger then half the people on this forums arms.

It may or may not be right to judge him of what he does off screen but it makes the company look like hypocrites to only punish certain people. I think that's a turnoff to the crowd. Randy didn't have this kind of hatred as a heel before, he brought it on himself. He allegedly treats fans terrible when he meets them, thats his reputation. If you can't interact with your fan base, the people who pay your boss to pay you, then you shouldn't be champ.

As far as the steroid thing, wrestlers are supposed to have that look.
I have no proof they aren't taking, there were 13 with the SIgnature coampany alone, that's only one company so you know there have to be more with other companies. the difference however is that Randy got caught and "worked out a deal" because Vnce said he came clean on the issue. (that may be speculation, it was reported here and never retracted). If Orton had been suspended thencame back and won the title it would have been a different story.