General Armageddon 2007 Discussion

Armageddon sure does have potential to be a pretty decent show. There's the possibility of another Rey vs. MVP match. That's one I'm looking forward to. I really hope they don't blow it off after one match just so Jeff Hardy and MVP can have a match.

Batista vs. Taker vs. Edge should be good. Although I'd prefer it if Taker & Edge didn't face each other in any form until Mania.

Kennedy vs. HBK looks likley. Which is great. Kennedy showed so much potential in his feud with Taker last year, but for the most part he's been terrible this year. I think that feud could get him back on track.

Finlay vs. Khali will suck. But I'm still intrested in seeing it. Khali always brings a curiosity factor to any of his matches.

Jeff Hardy vs. Snitzky will be great. I expect a total fuck up of a match. I pray it stops both there pushes.

Can't wait for Punk vs. Benjamin. It should be awesome. Punk hasn't worked well with anybody so far. But this really should be the making of him. I just hope he doesn't lose the title. I don't want Benjamin to get the title. They need to buld up Punk. Putting it on Benjamin, who's been buried for the past year would be a big mistake.
 
i think that armaggedon has the potential to be one of the best ppv's this year, if they build up the fueds properly. here is what the card will probably be:

HBK Vs Mr. Kennedy

Expect this to be one hell of a match up, if given the time to shine. if this does happen i think Mr. Kennedy will cheat to pick up the victory, thuis furthering there fued.


MVP Vs Rey Mysterio

This too has the potential to be a great match, probs for the us title. mvp retains going on to fued with jeff hardy in a mini fued till matt comes back.

WWE championship match: Randy orton Vs Y2J

Another stellar Match up with RKO picking up the win only for y2j to win the title at the rumble. making a match at wm between Y2j and a heel hhh.

WHC title match: Batista Vs Edge Vs Undertaker

Anyone of these superstars could win here but my vote goes to Edge. mking a match between Edge and The undertaker at Wm.

Thew rest of the card will probably be filled up by Jeff and HHH Vs Umanga And Snitsky, a womens title match and a match for the ecw title.

all in all a good pay per view well worth ordering if this is the card.
 
Updated predictions:

WWE Championship - Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho
--Orton will retain but probably not score a clean win.

World Heavyweight Championship - Batista vs Edge vs Undertaker
--Most likely, Edge will walk out the champ and start a singles feud with Undertaker. If either Edge or the Undertaker is the champ by the end of this, I'll be happy, since they're both awesome.

United States Championship - MVP vs Rey Mysterio
--MVP will retain. Clean win, most likely, since he lost by cheating last night.

ECW Championship - CM Punk vs Shelton Benjamin
--Punk will retain. Come on, this is Armageddon, you really think there will be more than one title change? Lol. Plus I think they want to keep Punk for a while until they build up a heel big enough to take it from him. Should be a good match, but then again, every one of Punk's ppv matches have been thought of as a great potential but dropped off in the end.

Women's Championship - Beth Phoenix vs Mickie James
--Beth retains. Feud continues to the Royal Rumble.

HBK vs Mr. Kennedy
--This could go either way. If they want to keep it up, they'll have Kennedy win, but that'd mean Shawn essentially lost his last 4 ppvs.

Though I don't see them having more than one match, the options include:

Finlay vs Khali - Really hope not

Jeff Hardy & Triple H vs Umaga & Snitsky

Tag Team titles - but they'll both probably be defended on Raw/Smackdown instead to favor a Triple H match.
 
wwe title orton vs jericho

i hope jericho wins but i do think they make orton win and make jericho win at a later stage.

whc - triple threat this is an obvius one clearly batista will win he won 90% of the smackdown p.p.v's this year and headlined all so far lol.

ecw title - punk vs ???? some random heel i dontk now mabye thorn or shelton ? i have no idea to me this is a bathroom break match.

finaly vs khali - clear khali win mcmahon helps khali win.

(dont want this but hardy + HHH vs shnitzel and samoa)

and mabye the hbk kennedy match but i dont see them having this many matches i think that this match will not be in it cause they will make some more few weeks promo's until the big rumble match.
well atleast thats what i would do lol.
 
well me and bleedingwickedly ARE going to be live

RIGHT THERE IN PITTSBURGH, PA (big pop) lol

but i do like all of your suggestions...

It may just be a all match PPV with no gimmicks. Just because they are leaving them all for the road to wrestlemania.

but im definitlely looking forward to all of these matches! Even the womans title! I just wish they would put finlay up against someone a lot better. Cause he is Finlay and loves to fight. He can wrestle great. But no one looks good against Kahli.

For people attending Armageddon Please Message me so we could meet up or something. Love to meet other true wrestling fans!!!
 
Raw pretty much spelled a lot of the card out for us.

CONFIRMED MATCHES:

WWE Championship - Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho
--Orton retains. He'll keep it until Wrestlemania, most likely, unless they have something big planned for a Jericho feud (and hopefully if that's the case, its not Jericho/HHH, cause I'd rather see something fresh).

World Heavyweight Championship - Batista vs Edge vs Undertaker
--I could definitely see Edge becoming the champ here and following the scenario I laid out on the Royal Rumble thread. Short version, Edge wins the title at Armageddon, Batista's rematch clause is invoked for a Royal Rumble match which Edge retains, Edge screws the Undertaker out of the Rumble, but he wins the Elimination Chamber and beats Edge at Wrestlemania.

Women's Championship - Beth Phoenix vs Mickie James
--Beth retains and Mickie looks hot throughout the whole match lol. Two of the best wrestlers the women's division has right now, but that's still not saying much, so although this will be great in terms of a women's match, and it'll certainly be better than Finlay/Khali, I highly, highly doubt it'll be MOTN.

HBK vs Mr. Kennedy
--Very excited about this feud. Two great talkers and performers. Another thing is that this could go either way. HBK's lost the last 2 ppvs in a row though, so I don't think he'll lose this, but I could see Kennedy pulling off the win so he can gloat some more.

Finlay vs Khali
--Crappy match consisting of punch after punch, chop after chop, a headbutt from Khali, a shillelagh from Finlay, run in from Hornswoggle, blah blah blah. They shouldn't even bother with this garbage.

Jeff Hardy vs Triple H
--This is tricky. If Triple H is smart, he'll put Hardy over. If he's really the arrogant prick that we sometimes hear about, he'll squash Hardy. Rhodes/Holly already have the respect angle, so we won't see anything like "Hardy loses but puts up a good fight and so Triple H becomes his friend". This will be cut or dry, one or the other, either Triple H is really taking Hardy in as a protege and trying to boost him to the main event, or he's been doing it lately just for something to do and now he doesn't like the fact that Hardy's getting some of his spotlight. If I had to take a guess, I'd say Hardy would win this one if they need to have a clean win, however, I have a crappy gut feeling that we'll see a good match and be robbed of an ending because Snitsky and Umaga will run in and it'll just turn into a DQ "brawl without the intensity" fest.

SPECULATION:

United States Championship - MVP vs Rey Mysterio
--Not sure if they'll put this on the card or just keep it as a Smackdown feud, with the possible Royal Rumble match. If they do, MVP retains.

ECW Championship - CM Punk vs Shelton Benjamin
--Does Punk have any other options? Not really. Benjamin's the only one getting any references to a title shot. Could and SHOULD be a good match, but Punk's been slacking off ever since the Benoit incident and has only delivered in full the night he won the title, in my opinion. Punk will retain, though, unless they're gearing him up for a full Smackdown switch. In that case, Benjamin would win and probably drop it to Kane in due time, as it seems they're pushing Kane towards ECW and Punk towards Smackdown.




^ Now if those predictions are right, there seems to be one match over the normal amount, so if I had to pick any that would seem to be cut (since they aren't smart enough to cut Finlay/Khali as they've already announced it) it'll be MVP/Mysterio.
 
Well the Raw side of Armageddon is set. And the Smackdown main event(The Undertaker vs. Edge vs. Batista(c) ) is confirmed. However it will be interesting to see what else they come up with. Especially considering right now it's 5 Raw matches to 1 Smackdown match.

My guess is we will see Morrison and Miz defend the Tag Titles against some combo of wrestlers from Smackdown. As for the ECW Title, I can see CM Punk defend it against Elijah Burke and Shelton Benjamin in a 2 vs. 1 Extreme Rules Handicap match. That would give you eight matches, which is what WWE should aim for.
 
I'm sorry to this but WWE are not gonna keep pushing ECW Extreme rules matches, I mean weve only had one since wrestlemania! As much as it pains me WWECW is not ECW and never will be! Having said that not that Morrison is out of the title scene I agree that Benjamin will be ECW champ in due time but not yet mabye at the Rumble or no way out.

Anyway if WWE have any sense they will make the match in which Benjamin finally wins the title a ladder match not an extreme rules match. As Benjamin has already proven he is awesome in this type of match, plus CM Punk gave a good account of himself in last years MITB. Whatever it ends up being it should be awesome with these 2 athletes (though a triple threat ladder match with morrison added would be even better)
 
If Mysterio wins, he'd be, I think, the only person on smackdown to hold all the titles. (WWE Tag Team Championship, World Heavyweight Championship, and the Cruiserweight championship.)
 
The card is looking really good. On paper it is one of the better ones of the year. It's nice to see WWE complete a card a week before the actual show. It doesn't really happen too much now.

The only potential duds are Khali/Finlay & Henry/Viscera vs. Punk/Kane.

Khali always has that curiosity factor when it comes to his matches, I for one always look forward to seeing him.

And the tag match is going to be a total cluster fuck. I'm going to be that it will be one of the worst matches of they year. There is nothing wrong with that. I really don't get why people aren't entertainer when matches turn bad.
 
Updated card, updated predictions:

WWE Championship - Randy Orton vs Chris Jericho
--I'd be very surprised if Orton lost the title in this match. That means that I can see any ending happening except from Jericho winning by submission or pinfall. Either Orton wins by any of the 4 methods or loses by DQ/Countout.

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP - Batista vs Edge vs Undertaker
--I've been saying it for the longest time, I think the best way to go about this feud is to get Batista out of the way. Edge wins the title here, Batista invokes his "rematch clause" for the Royal Rumble but Edge retains and screws Undertaker out of winning the Royal Rumble, then Undertaker wins the Elimination Chamber at No Way Out for the title shot at Wrestlemania, where he defeats Edge and wins the belt as well as keeping his streak alive. That way you get the best of both worlds.

MVP vs Rey Mysterio
--If this is for the United States title, then MVP retains somehow, but if it isn't, then Mysterio gets the pin. That simple. They're going to keep the title on MVP until Matt can come back and win it.

C.M. Punk & Kane vs. Big Daddy V & Mark Henry
--Boring match. Its a shame, because Punk and Kane would work well together if they were facing two people that could put on a match. The faces will win this.

Jeff Hardy vs. Triple H
--Here's the kicker of the night. This all depends on what Paul's mindset is. Does he indeed want to push Hardy to the main event like we've been hearing, or is he going to act on jealousy and envy and bury him just to get a title shot and beat Orton at the Royal Rumble? I really, really hope that it isn't the latter, as I don't want to see Triple H as the champ for 3 months again or anything. Triple H has the PERFECT opportunity here to start something big. Think about it. If Hardy gets the clean pin over Triple H and at the end, Triple H attacks him out of anger, you've got two great performers in a feud, Triple H is a heel again like he wants, and Hardy has a Royal Rumble championship match. Triple H can cost him the IC title sometime before the Royal Rumble as well. Hardy loses at the Royal Rumble and the two have a stellar match at Wrestlemania. I really hope they go this route, but knowing the WWE, they won't. They'll make it so Hardy "puts up a good fight" but loses to Triple H, who wins the title from Orton at the Royal Rumble, and then has that boring ass Batista match at WM, making it so they have no shot at getting my money for buying the ppv.

Beth Phoenix vs. Mickie James
--Should be one of the best women's division matches in a long, long time...enough that I could actually sit through it, lol. Beth will retain, though.

Finlay vs. The Great Khali
--Booooooooring. Look for the same old shtick. Hornswoggle runs around in a circle, distracting the referee after Khali hits a bunch of chops to the head, and while the ref isn't looking, Finlay hits him with the shillelagh and gets the win. You'd think there would be a purpose for Creative...

Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Kennedy
--Could very well be MOTN, and it could go either way. The feud can continue no matter who wins, as if Kennedy wins, he'll continue to boast, and if HBK wins, Kennedy will complain and say it was a cheap win. They should give more time to this feud as it could be gold.



All in all, if they do it right, this could be a decent ppv, but there are a lot of matches that can equate to dead weight (Finlay's, Punk & Kane's, etc), so who knows. They need to do SOMETHING though to make this ppv worthwhile. At the very least, we need to get the belt off Batista.
 
This should be a pretty decent PPV. There are five matches worth watching with three that are going to be crap: Finlay vs Khali, Punk/Kane vs Vis/Henry, and Mickie vs Beth Phoenix. I will be watching Armaggeddon this year(the last two years had shitty cards), and I expect a good show for WWE's standards anyway. The two matches that interest me the most are HBK vs Kennedy and HHH vs Jeff Hardy because it is hard to predict who is going to win in those two matches so they should be exciting. The World title and WWE title matches are going to be good, but everybody expects Edge to win the Triple Threat and Orton to win against Jericho, making it seem very predictable and takes away from the excitement. I will probably like the Triple Threat match the most if Edge or Taker wins the World title that is.
 
WWE Championship - Randy Orton vs. Chris Jericho
This should be a good match. Orton retains, obviously.

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT Championship - Batista vs. Edge vs. Undertaker
Another obvious match, as Edge wins. I definitely think this will be the match of the night, and assuming Orton retains his title, this should be the main event, since they always end ppv's with the biggest match, plus the last few WWE ppv's have had smackdown main events.

MVP vs. Rey Mysterio
Another great match, although this feud is probably just a filler until Matt Hardy comes back. MVP retains, but still a good match.

Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy
This'll most likely be the storyline match of the night. I think this can go either way. I'd love to see Hardy win because he's one of my favorites, plus it'll prove to me that HHH is not selfish, which I'm beginning to believe is true. But one the other hand, HHH is supposedly wanting to go Heel for 'mania, so this would be a great time to do it. Either way, this'll be another great match.

Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Kennedy
This'll be a very good feud and another great match. I think this can either way too, but since their both so good, I'll be happy either way.

Finlay vs. The Great Khali
This'll probably just turn into another "joke" match with Hornswaggle interfering in some way. I'm thinking Finlay will win.

Beth Phoenix vs. Mickie James
I don't care much about diva matches, but this doesn't look to bad on paper. I'd like to see Mickie James win, but Beth Phoenix will probably take this one.

C.M. Punk and Kane vs. Big Daddy V and Mark Henry
I'm going to be going to Armageddon live, and I'm almost guaranteeing that this'll be the match that I have my bathroom break during. I almost feel bad for CM Punk and Kane, since they're both pretty good and they have to fight in this crap match. I'd much rather see Punk and Kane fight each other. I'm guessing CM Punk and Kane do win, though.

Overall I think this'll be a great pay-per-view, with a lot of great matches, but I know that this won't exactly be a big memorable ppv that everyone remembers for a few years. My only complaint is that there aren't any gimmick matches. I'd like to see a ladder or cage match, but I can deal with that since it has such great match-ups
 
I want to see what everyone else thinks about the championship matches at Armageddon, such as what titles will change, if any will be vacated, or if they will be retained, interferences and all that good stuff. I've noticed that lately, most titles at PPV events are retained, and I think most of the champions we have need to lose their straps. Here is what I think will happen...

World Heavyweight Championship Match
I think this is the championship that is most likely going to change hands at Armageddon. Edge will no doubt win the title, using his strategy like he always does and sneak an attack on one of the two fallen beasts during the match. However, if Edge is not to win the title, Batista will retain the belt, because I can't see Undertaker taking it back right now.
Other thoughts: There are no disqualifications in a triple-threat match, something Edge will likely use to his advantage, being the strategist he is. I don't think anyone will interfere in this one, it's going to be wild enough as it is.

WWE Championship Match
Randy Orton is going to retain his championship in this one. Chris Jericho isn't pepared to be the champion right now, he just came back and has only fought in two matches, so he needs to wait a bit.
Other thoughts: Randy Orton might try to disqualify himself or knock down the referee and sneak in a cheap shot with the title belt. Jericho will fight clean.

WWE Women's Championship Match
This one has to be called down the middle, Mickie James could win the title and make fans around the world sigh in relief. Beth Phoenix is among the few very good female wrestlers, but her promos are dull. Of course, using her brute strength she could end up dominating and make a job out of Mickie James like she has to other divas in the past.
Other thoughts: Hair pulling, rope grabbing and eye gouging is expected, but it's expected in every other match. Could also be very short like the Women's title match at No Mercy.

WWE United States Championship Match
- This is the title I least expect to change this Sunday. Montel Vontavious Porter is currently a 207-day reigning champion (as of December 13th), and I hope to see his reign last up to 300 days. Rey Mysterio will use his usual high-flying moves to stun the crowd, but Montel will use his startegy to capture a victory and retain his title.
Other thoughts: I expect to see the usual walk-out by Montel, you know, when he takes his belt and tries to leave but will be attacked and thrown back in. Seems like it could be a very long and well-fought match, something like the match between these two on SmackDown! back in November, about fifteen minutes long. Could also be the first match of the night.

#1 Contendership for the WWE Championship
Triple H and Jeff Hardy are both currently crowd favorites, and I have no clue how this one will end. Jeff, the Intercontinental Champion, could end up defeating Triple H, but Triple H has been a world champion, and has a lot more experience that Jeff. Personally, I want to see Jeff win this one, and at the Royal Rumble, win the WWE Championship (though he might lose the IC title on RAW somewhere in between).
Other thoughts: The good ol' sledgehammer might have a brief meeting with Jeff Hardy's face. Expect low blows, eye gouges, and a long and very good match from these two.

What does everyone else think?
 
My Predictions:

Jeff Hardy vs. HHH


I'm sure this match will be good. But when you dislike two superstars that much it doesn't matter. I could happily miss this match. I'm really not sure about the outcome. I will probably go for Hardy. I see HHH winning the Rumble. Which is bad. Even worse than Batista winning.

Beth Phoenix vs. Mickie James


Phoenix wins.

Finlay vs. The Great Khali

I'm always intrested in seeing Khali mtches. Cena can get a good match out of him, so I'm sure Finlay can as well. I expect this to pretty much be an unofficial handicap match. Hornswoggle distracts Khali, Finlay cheep shots him. Victory. And Khali loses even more stock.

Kane & C.M. Punk vs. Big Daddy V & Mark Henry

This is going to be bad. Punk (The Champion) will be made to look the weakes in this one. Which is pointless. But I'm still intrigued to see this match. I think it will be one of those matches that is so bad it becomes intresting. I don't know who will win. Logic says Punk & Kane. But WWE doesn't promote logic.

HBK vs. Mr. Kennedy

This match should get Kennedy back on track. I'm expecting it to be decent. I see HBK winning. It won't hurt Kennedy to lose. I then see Ken getting a huge push heading into Mania.

Undertaker vs. Batista vs. Edge

Taker & Edge shouldn't be facing each other this soon to Mania. Unless they're having theire feud in January time. But it should still be a good match. I predict a new cham in Edge.

Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton

This should end in a DQ but i don't see it happeneing. Orton wins, CLEAN. Jericho will dissapoint in this match. I predict ring rust.

MVP vs. Rey Mysterio

Again not sure of the result. But it will be a great match. I want MVP to lose the title to Matt Hardy. but if Mysterio has to have a title run I want him to win tomorrow, then drop it back at The Rumble.

Overall this is a good card on paper. This is the time of year when WWE becomes intresting again.
 
My Predictions:

High stakes matches:

WWE Championship Match (Randy Orton[C] v Chris Jericho):
Orton will retain, I think WWE are trying to set up a Triple H and Orton Rivelry, and so Orton will retain, and hopefully lose to HHH at Royal Rumble.

#1 Contender for next WWE Championship Match(Triple H v Jeff Hardy):
Like I said, I am expecting a Triple H v Orton fight, so therefore i think Triple H will win this, I don't think there will be any sledgehammer or anything too heavy involved, this is not as intense as the feud with Umaga.

WWE Womans Championship Match(Beth Pheonix[C] v Mickie James):
Yes Beth Pheonix aint too apealing, and yes Mickie James is damn fine, and though looks is what makes Divas famous, and loved by the fans, which is what WWE want, i don't think they will please the fans just yet, i think they will wait till Candice Michelle is back, then i think they will give her the belt. So Pheonix will win, and Mickie will just look good!.

United States Championship(MVP[C] v Rey Mysterio):
MVP will retain here, and will hold it till Matt Hardy comes back and we finally see the expected rivelry between them.

World Heavyweight Championship(Batista[C] v The Undertaker v Edge):
Guess who's gonna win this! begins with an 'E', Taker and Batista will wage war, and Edge will pin the weakest looking carcus to steal victory. sad though to see Batista lose the title!.

Other fights:

Mr Kennedy v Shawn Micheals:
God i hate Mr Kennedy, Micheals will win.

Kane & CM Punk v Big Daddy V & Mark Henry:
hmmmmmm....if only i cared, only thing im gonna enjoy in this match is Kanes entrance, and maybe a chokeslam if he manages it, i think Kane and CM Punk will win this.

Finaly v Khali:
Khali will get distracted somehow, and Finaly will sneak in the shelaile and win
 
My Armageddon Predictions

Orton Vs Y2J - WWE CHAMPIONSHIP

Orton will likely retain, by cheating or DQ. But i got a feeling Orton might win clean, but either way Orton retains his title

Edge Vs Undertaker Vs Batista - WORLD TITLE

Im hoping for dear life batista loses this title in the match and he should with edge winning. Edge will likely hide during the match and when undertaker is about to pin batista, edge comes in spears undertaker and pins batista.

HHH Vs Jeff Hardy

Jeff should win this match, but i bet HHH will win cause he never wants to lose his spotlight. It pisses me off to think HHH wouldnt put over Jeff, cause Jeff needs the push, he has great support and is a good high flyer wrestler. But HHH will be him oldself and make himself verse orton at the Rumble.

Kennedy Vs HBK

This match should be good and im very interested in it. i Think Kennedy should win here but i doubt the feud will continue, i have a feeling Lashly might make a return and cost Kennedy the match leading to his return feud, cause kennedy put Lashley out of action.

MVP Vs Rey Mysterio

MVP should win in an entertaining match. This match should be given the proper time, but MVP should win setting up for Hardy's return.

Beth Vs Mickie - WOMENS TITLE

Beth should win in what should be the womens match of the year. These two know how to wrestle, But beth will win with candice coming back real soon.

Finlay Vs Khali

A Dud match, Finlay will probably win with the shealie.

Kane & CM Punk Vs Henry and Daddy V

Another dud match, with Kane and Punk winning, but a beatdown by henry and V will attack them after the match.

Overall its a good paper per view, certainly one of the better ppv's of the year. The matches should get the proper time and it will make the ppv reach its potential. Only two dud matches, not bad!
 
TheOneBigWill's "take" on Armageddon 2007:

U.S. Championship: M.V.P. v. Rey Mysterio: I personally think the match could've gone a lot better. I didn't catch the beginning, because I was scrambling to finish up other stuff I had to do.. however, when I did come in, it just seemed poorly put together & ended with M.V.P. getting counted out.

Overall, I hope for another rematch, but only if there will be a solid winner in the end. I can't stand countout/DQ endings, as it doesn't solve, or finish anything.. yet a lot of times they won't ever continue beyond that point, due to any number of other reasons.

Big Daddy V & Mark Henry v. Kane & C.M. Punk: So, it wasn't the car wreck I thought it would be, however the shear fact that C.M. Punk had ANY type of offense in this match just made the whole thing fake.

I'm really getting annoyed with the fact that Kane has the potential to be a good wrestler, & a better than average big man, yet he just doesn't seem to care anymore. (thinking back to 1998-2001) This match was nothing but kicks, punches, chest chops & squash holds. Thankfully, it didn't last too long.

Shawn Michaels v. Mr. Kennedy: A solid match all the way around. In my opinion, it was lacking/missing something & I don't quite know what, but I don't think this feud is over just yet.. so I'm sure it'll only continue to get better.

My main argument was that Kennedy was suppose to play off having a possible broken hand, yet he kept shaking it. I've never had a broken hand, but I know people who have.. & they DON'T repeatedly shake it. They clutch it, they grimace, they show general pain for it.. but they don't shake it, & wiggle their fingers. Therefore, Kennedy basically no-sold the injury.

I was also greatly surprised to see Shawn Michaels win, but I was completely thrilled & happy with the outcome. H.B.K. is my all-time favorite wrestler, & to see that they don't bury him to up-and-comers all the time is a nice thing.

#1. Contender's Match: Jeff Hardy v. Triple H.: This was honestly one of the main matches I was looking forward to, & for the second straight time this week, Jeff Hardy just seems to have lost his "passion" for wrestling.

Is it just me? Seriously, he just didn't seem to show passion, even after winning! I wasn't shocked that Triple H. lost, but I'd be highly surprised if Jeff Hardy continues to get the Championship match without Triple H. somehow ended up involved before its over. All in all, this match should've been a lot better, & these two had a better match back in 2001 when Triple H. squashed Hardy. At least then, Hardy had passion.

The Great Khali v. Finlay: Thankfully, it wasn't terribly long. Furthermore, it actually surprised me. (its funny how Khali can shock you from time to time) Normally when I see a Khali match, I don't expect hardly any offense from him outside of a boot or chops, but it honestly looked like he tried in this match.

It was great to see Finlay pick up the victory, I just hope they'll move Finlay & Hornswoggle out of this feud. The match might not have been a total disaster, but that doesn't mean I wanna see it continue, either.

W.W.E. Championship: Randy Orton v. Chris Jericho: You know the number one way to determine when a Championship match, such as this one, is going to end in a screw job? Its put on before the Women's Championship, in the middle of the show.

The overall match was really good. I still hate seeing Jericho use that lame ass boston crab, & have to dreadfully listen to the announcer's screaming "Walls of Jericho!!" Because its not, its not even close. Outside of that, the match was generally good. Nice & solid between both guys.

When Jericho hit J.B.L. you could practically know then & there that it would end with him. The look J.B.L. had, followed by Jericho's moronic decision to shove J.B.L. upon getting up. Then to once again listen to the announcer's drowning on about how it doesn't warrent a comeback. Jericho shoved him!! Thats a fighting move in wrestling.. it warrents a comeback, in my opinion.

Women's Championship: Beth Phoenix v. Mickie James: I assumed it would be a great match-up, & I wasn't disappointed. These two really need to continue the feud into a rematch at the Royal Rumble. I doubt it'll happen, but if this match hasn't shown W.W.E. that Mickie James needs to be a solid carrier of this division, along with Phoenix, then I don't know what else to say.

World Championship Match: Batista v. Edge v. Undertaker: Save the best, for last. The entire night all I cared about was seeing Edge reclaim the World Championship. And during his promo earlier in the night, I was curious if he actually would.

Overall, the match was about as bad as a Triple Threat match can get, simply because it was fast paced & rarely did you see all three Superstars interacting at the same time. Thannkfully though, that seems to be because they're saving Taker/Edge for Mania.

The shock of the night came when MULTIPLE EDGE'S showed up!! For as glued as my eyes were to this match, it took me a minute to realize I was seeing double, when one was laid out next to the steps & the real one was ducking down, behind the ring post. All in all, the plan worked out greatly, as Edge came out in the end, holding the one thing he never should've lost.. & the one thing I hope he doesn't end up losing in 3 monthes.

Biggest Letdown: Jeff Hardy v. Triple H. -- Simply because it just didn't seem like either one wanted to truly work this match. Jeff Hardy got the clean victory over Triple H., yet showed NO emotion or passion for anything. All in all, when Triple H. cleanly lets you go over him.. I suggest you show passion in return.

Biggest Shock: Multiple Edge's!! Seriously, whoever the two guys were that played the doubles.. they looked like him. One almost looked like Jesse (from Jesse & Festus) but I doubt it was.

Overall Thoughts: The p.p.v. didn't live up to complete expectations, but it gave me what I wanted the most. So through my eyes, it deserves a high rating. I was glued to the whole p.p.v., because each match was very highly anticipated.

Rating: 9/10: I got everything I wanted out of this p.p.v. Each match was greatly built, with most of them having at least a decent outcome. The M.V.P./Mysterio ending sucked, which dropped the rating in my mind.. & the Hardy/H.H.H. match wasn't as big as it was suppose to be.. but outside of that, everything else was amazing & well put together!
 
Here's my take on Armageddon '07:

I thought it delivered big time. The six matches I looked forward to (basically all except Khali/Finlay and Punk/Kane vs. BDV/Mark Henry) were good.

I agree that the count out finish in the U.S. Title match was lame. However that didn't take away from what Mysterio and M.V.P. brought. As for the DQ in the WWE Title match, at least it will lead to something(JBL vs. Y2J).

Best Match: HBK vs. Mr. Kennedy- I loved the finish especially.

Worst Match: Finlay vs. Great Khali

Overall PPV Grade: 7.2 out of 10

WWE is on a roll lately. Cyber Sunday was good, Survivor Series was better, and now they delivered again with Armageddon. Let's hope this tread continues in 2008 with the Royal Rumble.

P.S. I love the Royal Rumble commercial.
 
TheOneBigWill's "take" on Armageddon 2007:

U.S. Championship: M.V.P. v. Rey Mysterio: I personally think the match could've gone a lot better. I didn't catch the beginning, because I was scrambling to finish up other stuff I had to do.. however, when I did come in, it just seemed poorly put together & ended with M.V.P. getting counted out.

Overall, I hope for another rematch, but only if there will be a solid winner in the end. I can't stand countout/DQ endings, as it doesn't solve, or finish anything.. yet a lot of times they won't ever continue beyond that point, due to any number of other reasons.

Big Daddy V & Mark Henry v. Kane & C.M. Punk: So, it wasn't the car wreck I thought it would be, however the shear fact that C.M. Punk had ANY type of offense in this match just made the whole thing fake.

I'm really getting annoyed with the fact that Kane has the potential to be a good wrestler, & a better than average big man, yet he just doesn't seem to care anymore. (thinking back to 1998-2001) This match was nothing but kicks, punches, chest chops & squash holds. Thankfully, it didn't last too long.

Shawn Michaels v. Mr. Kennedy: A solid match all the way around. In my opinion, it was lacking/missing something & I don't quite know what, but I don't think this feud is over just yet.. so I'm sure it'll only continue to get better.

My main argument was that Kennedy was suppose to play off having a possible broken hand, yet he kept shaking it. I've never had a broken hand, but I know people who have.. & they DON'T repeatedly shake it. They clutch it, they grimace, they show general pain for it.. but they don't shake it, & wiggle their fingers. Therefore, Kennedy basically no-sold the injury.

I was also greatly surprised to see Shawn Michaels win, but I was completely thrilled & happy with the outcome. H.B.K. is my all-time favorite wrestler, & to see that they don't bury him to up-and-comers all the time is a nice thing.

#1. Contender's Match: Jeff Hardy v. Triple H.: This was honestly one of the main matches I was looking forward to, & for the second straight time this week, Jeff Hardy just seems to have lost his "passion" for wrestling.

Is it just me? Seriously, he just didn't seem to show passion, even after winning! I wasn't shocked that Triple H. lost, but I'd be highly surprised if Jeff Hardy continues to get the Championship match without Triple H. somehow ended up involved before its over. All in all, this match should've been a lot better, & these two had a better match back in 2001 when Triple H. squashed Hardy. At least then, Hardy had passion.

The Great Khali v. Finlay: Thankfully, it wasn't terribly long. Furthermore, it actually surprised me. (its funny how Khali can shock you from time to time) Normally when I see a Khali match, I don't expect hardly any offense from him outside of a boot or chops, but it honestly looked like he tried in this match.

It was great to see Finlay pick up the victory, I just hope they'll move Finlay & Hornswoggle out of this feud. The match might not have been a total disaster, but that doesn't mean I wanna see it continue, either.

W.W.E. Championship: Randy Orton v. Chris Jericho: You know the number one way to determine when a Championship match, such as this one, is going to end in a screw job? Its put on before the Women's Championship, in the middle of the show.

The overall match was really good. I still hate seeing Jericho use that lame ass boston crab, & have to dreadfully listen to the announcer's screaming "Walls of Jericho!!" Because its not, its not even close. Outside of that, the match was generally good. Nice & solid between both guys.

When Jericho hit J.B.L. you could practically know then & there that it would end with him. The look J.B.L. had, followed by Jericho's moronic decision to shove J.B.L. upon getting up. Then to once again listen to the announcer's drowning on about how it doesn't warrent a comeback. Jericho shoved him!! Thats a fighting move in wrestling.. it warrents a comeback, in my opinion.

Women's Championship: Beth Phoenix v. Mickie James: I assumed it would be a great match-up, & I wasn't disappointed. These two really need to continue the feud into a rematch at the Royal Rumble. I doubt it'll happen, but if this match hasn't shown W.W.E. that Mickie James needs to be a solid carrier of this division, along with Phoenix, then I don't know what else to say.

World Championship Match: Batista v. Edge v. Undertaker: Save the best, for last. The entire night all I cared about was seeing Edge reclaim the World Championship. And during his promo earlier in the night, I was curious if he actually would.

Overall, the match was about as bad as a Triple Threat match can get, simply because it was fast paced & rarely did you see all three Superstars interacting at the same time. Thannkfully though, that seems to be because they're saving Taker/Edge for Mania.

The shock of the night came when MULTIPLE EDGE'S showed up!! For as glued as my eyes were to this match, it took me a minute to realize I was seeing double, when one was laid out next to the steps & the real one was ducking down, behind the ring post. All in all, the plan worked out greatly, as Edge came out in the end, holding the one thing he never should've lost.. & the one thing I hope he doesn't end up losing in 3 monthes.

Biggest Letdown: Jeff Hardy v. Triple H. -- Simply because it just didn't seem like either one wanted to truly work this match. Jeff Hardy got the clean victory over Triple H., yet showed NO emotion or passion for anything. All in all, when Triple H. cleanly lets you go over him.. I suggest you show passion in return.

Biggest Shock: Multiple Edge's!! Seriously, whoever the two guys were that played the doubles.. they looked like him. One almost looked like Jesse (from Jesse & Festus) but I doubt it was.

Overall Thoughts: The p.p.v. didn't live up to complete expectations, but it gave me what I wanted the most. So through my eyes, it deserves a high rating. I was glued to the whole p.p.v., because each match was very highly anticipated.

Rating: 9/10: I got everything I wanted out of this p.p.v. Each match was greatly built, with most of them having at least a decent outcome. The M.V.P./Mysterio ending sucked, which dropped the rating in my mind.. & the Hardy/H.H.H. match wasn't as big as it was suppose to be.. but outside of that, everything else was amazing & well put together!



How do you figure Jeff has lost his passion for the second time this week?
i dont think thats the case, i think it was scripted like that for him to sell his injuries on monday in case they had triple h win, they could say he was injured. and tonight, i think he was suppose to act shocked that he won the match. just my opinion on it though, but i dont see what you mean about he lost his passion.
 
How do you figure Jeff has lost his passion for the second time this week?
i dont think thats the case, i think it was scripted like that for him to sell his injuries on monday in case they had triple h win, they could say he was injured. and tonight, i think he was suppose to act shocked that he won the match. just my opinion on it though, but i dont see what you mean about he lost his passion.

Okay, just for the rec.. this is mainly OFF TOPIC.

In my personal opinion, during the ladder match on Raw. Both, Jeff Hardy & Carlito majorly half-assed that match. Neither man sold hardly anything, especially when they didn't even take bumps. They kinda half ass jumped off, landing on their feet, then falling, or in one case where Carlito basically jumped off the ladder, then simply pushed it over & "rested" for a bit.

In the regard of Jeff losing his passion for the p.p.v. match.. I'll admit his promo was probably him trying to sell that he felt he had no chance, but making the most of it. (in the end, he rolled his eyes, after saying this was the match of his career - was that meant to happen, or him personally?)

Then, during the whole match, Jeff didn't take any major bumps, or high risk spots. The ONLY high risk spot I recalled him doing, was the running on the guardrail - even then he either lost his balance, or simply jumped off, because he didn't want to take a more "impactful" clothesline.

Finally, after the match.. I'll agree that maybe they wanted him to sell that it was more of a shock victory.. but it was still "A" victory & one anyone else would've celebrated greatly. Take Edge for example, he's now a former 2 time W.W.E. Champion & 2 time World Champion.. in EVERY one of his Championship wins, he cries. He shows passion & emotion. Edge even shows that type of emotion over winning number one contender matches.. Jeff didn't.
 
i wish undertaker would have won, i hate Edge, not Batista. not very much.
 
i dont like egde eather but i think he deserved that match. even if he is my most disliked wrestler. well maybe not but he sure is down there.
 

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