If this promo were a "Worked Shoot" Then CM Punk wouldn't have mentioned names children/average fans won't know about like the names of WWE creative or even other promotions. Last time WWE let a Superstar talk about other promotions that was during the WCW Invasion angle.
CM Punk WINS The WWE Championship!!! Cena fired???
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It cant be said enough but what a great promo... I'd like to think it has to be the start of something and He really isn't leaving for good he'll just take time off but I gotta say I feel like raw is getting better each week even smackdown is IMO and I've been waiting for it...
aussiewwefan
Dark Match Jobber
scripted but what a awesome promo best promo of this year vince would not let one of his entertainers (as he likes to call them)go out there love him breaking the fourth wall and saying hi to colt cabana
enviousdominous
Behold my diction
Think about it though. If Vince knows that CM Punk is leaving, he may as well get as much as he can out of him. Vince may be trying to bait die hard Punk fans into seeing if maybe Punk will make their wishes come true and de-throne john cena, the idea being that someone making controversial statements is a sign of an upcoming controversial climax.
I'm on the fence as to whether or not the comments about hhh and steph were planned, I doubt that they would tolerate that if they were actually in charge but then again vince is still in charge and he doesn't care who gets ripped.
dashthestanpeat
Occasional Pre-Show
Greatest ending to Raw that I've seen in nearly a decade. For me it even trumps Rock coming back. Don't get me wrong, Rock had the nostalgia factor....But this, my jaw dropped like I had a sack of hammers tied to it. And I get that it's a worked shoot. If it weren't a worked shoot, if it were CM Punk being serious, he probably wouldn't have gone off on the fans the way he did. His delivery on that just struck me as getting cheap heat. Because if he hadn't, he'd have been cheered a lot more than he was. And more than likely the suspension will come off next week, they'll keep him on the title match, and throw a stip on it. If not, then congrats to Punk for saying more about WWE's backstage than anyone else has ever gotten away with, and wherever you wind up, I'll watch.
enviousdominous
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What about the personal story he was about to tell about Vince McMahon? He managed to get "You know we do this bully camp..." out before being cut off. Do you think that was intended to air?
DreamcastDriver86
Dark Match Jobber
I will admit right now, I did mark out for this awesome promo. Of course it was a worked shoot, and an amazing one at that. If it was anything other than worked it wouldn't have lasted as long, he would have been cut off a lot sooner. As for those who keep saying that he should have mentioned TNA, it wouldn't have made sense as he just got through trashing Hulk Hogan earlier in the promo. Why would he be stupid enough to go to the company where a guy he just called an "ass kisser" has booking power? Instead he plugged ROH, the wrestling company that was his home for many years.
I'm not gonna speculate whether it was a worked shoot or however you wanna call it but I'll tell you what it was: damn good TV. CM Punk presented himself as hard worker with a legitimate gripe in the fact that his hard work has reaped no reward. He continually gets passed over for the ass kissers and the yes men in the back and it brought a sense of relatability to a man that had for the longest been seen as a megalomaniac.
I think the promo is legit and it was indeed a "shoot", scripted or not I love it and this is the first time I see someone do "something" outside the level of Triple H and Undertaker (not the in ring skills or popularity).. One thing is for sure "It is indeed one of the Greatest Promo of All Time!" 
Cena gained my respect after taking all those "things" that Punk said to him..
Cena gained my respect after taking all those "things" that Punk said to him..
enviousdominous
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I'm seeing a lot of debate on whether or not this was a full shoot or full work or how toward either side in between it was.
What I'm not seeing is any comments on why the mic was cut at the end, which was obvious. Punk was about to comment on the anti-bullying campaign.
Now one has to think that if it was planned for him to be able to eek out the beginning of a potential negative review of their anti-bullying campaign, it would obviously be because they're going to make a subtle move away from a pg rated show. Now if this were true, it would make their movie "That's what I am" look even more cheap than it is in that it's whole basis for being made was to promote anti-bullying. They're still doing anti-bullying skits during commercial breaks, so they're slow to realize what exactly they're broadcasting.
I don't think it was planned for him to mention the anti-bullying campaign in that it would suggest that vince admits that his projects in regard to it and because of it are all flops. The pg rating, "that's what I am" and his wife's pathetic and overspent attempt to be a congresswoman.
Vince will allow ribbing of his failures occaisionally on tv by a select few, I highly doubt that in the run up to Punk's leaving he would allow a campaign that's still going on to be ripped apart by a personal story of vince's management policies.
When I realize that this part of the promo was very likely not planned, I start to wonder how much of it wasn't planned as well.
What I'm not seeing is any comments on why the mic was cut at the end, which was obvious. Punk was about to comment on the anti-bullying campaign.
Now one has to think that if it was planned for him to be able to eek out the beginning of a potential negative review of their anti-bullying campaign, it would obviously be because they're going to make a subtle move away from a pg rated show. Now if this were true, it would make their movie "That's what I am" look even more cheap than it is in that it's whole basis for being made was to promote anti-bullying. They're still doing anti-bullying skits during commercial breaks, so they're slow to realize what exactly they're broadcasting.
I don't think it was planned for him to mention the anti-bullying campaign in that it would suggest that vince admits that his projects in regard to it and because of it are all flops. The pg rating, "that's what I am" and his wife's pathetic and overspent attempt to be a congresswoman.
Vince will allow ribbing of his failures occaisionally on tv by a select few, I highly doubt that in the run up to Punk's leaving he would allow a campaign that's still going on to be ripped apart by a personal story of vince's management policies.
When I realize that this part of the promo was very likely not planned, I start to wonder how much of it wasn't planned as well.
enviousdominous
Behold my diction
I think the promo is legit and it was indeed a "shoot", scripted or not I love it and this is the first time I see someone do "something" outside the level of Triple H and Undertaker (not the in ring skills or popularity).. One thing is for sure "It is indeed one of the Greatest Promo of All Time!"
Cena gained my respect after taking all those "things" that Punk said to him..
Bro, I will never respect cena. cena deserves to be exactly where hogan is, a complete failure at life without being cradled by vince.
cena is the type of jackass who "respects" CM Punk and even "respects" randy orton. How does he show this respect to orton? He no-sells ortons head (nudge) punt that for any other guy in the locker room would have meant a forced three week vacation. How does he show this respect to Punk? He gets all excited and begs to be able to be the guy who retires him from the wwe.
enviousdominous
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Isn't his twitter owned by wwe?
enviousdominous
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You remember what they did with jeff hardy? They kept him on as champ only because he was selling tickets and could be persuaded with a fatter pay check, eventually he was allowed to go out the way he wanted to and when he wanted to. The key to that is that he still stuck to his word and left, albeit only to become an even bigger drug addict than he was before.
I'm guessing that they'll see how much money the Punk cena fued makes and from that shovel more cash into Punks pocket to keep the money making fued going another couple months. I'm sure that Punk isn't pretending to be annoyed by backstage politics in the wwe and is certainly going to leave eventually. It might take another couple months if they give him the belt and more money, and allow him to drop the belt to someone whose name isn't cena before leaving.
Are you serious? Planned or not, why does that matter? Stephanie has being called a ****, a ****e and alot worse. He called her an idiot and he called Triple H who is a face a doofus. WOW!!!
Why do people take this at face value is beyond me? If it was a regular promo by R-Truth and he said Steph was an idiot would people be questioning it?!
American popular culture has made fans very naive, it took them years to discover Jerry Springer was staged. I will tell you one thing, Punks fanbase will only continue to grow and Cena will come out of this smelling of Roses, just like he did when he went into promos with The Rock. There is always a hidden angle where Cena is involved and he will be better off because of this.
If it was REAL, then Punk would have being fired, not suspended.
enviousdominous
Behold my diction
Okay, I gather that because of harsher comments made toward stephanie in the past as part of a work to justify her getting any tv time it is therefore impossible to believe that a less harsh comment could have been ad libbed.
stephani has nothing to do with the Punk cena angle. The promo went from an obvious work with an attempt to get the crowd to stop cheering for him and comments on his eventual departure into a potential shoot with comments bashing steph and her hubby.
Like I said in a previous post, I believe that it was inteded to be a worked shoot and became more of a shoot toward the end. I believe that because worse things have been said about steph and hhh, any ad libbed shots at them can be taken with a grain of salt. Either way, what was supposed to happen, happened. Punk is suspended so they can work this stupid angle involving cena pretending to only want to fight Punk, thus we IWC elitists can wonder if cena feels the same way we do and therefore isn't really a jackoff after all. He's leaving anyway so there's no sense in firing him for doing something that will inevitably sell tickets. To correct you, they wouldn't fire him for making off the cuff negative comments.
I think the idea of the promo was scripted. However, what I think happened was Punk went off script. While, its not uncommon for these guys to improvise, I think its a little obvious they didnt like the improv Punk was doing.
While I know this doesnt prove a damn thing, WWE.com is now reporting that Vince has suspended Punk indefinitely for his unprofessional behavior. In this case the unprofessional behavior could be one or all of the following:
Mentioning rival companies by name.
Mentioning members of said rival company.
Mentioning former WWE employees to whom shall not be named within the WWE company.
Not only mentioning Stephanie, but talking trash about her as well.
Using the word "wrestler" instead of "performer".
Its no secret that Punk has been unhappy within the WWE. So I wouldnt be surprised if he actually did use the promo spot for his own agenda. ESPECIALLY if he doesnt plan on continuing with the company. I wouldnt put it past him to burn that bridge because of how jaded he feels.
Also, one last thing. Was it me, or was there no signing off call sign? Normally when RAW ends, in the lower left hand corner you'll always see WWE broadcast 2011 production. See WWE.com for more details. and then a fade to black to the giant WWE logo. Was it me or was that missing this time around? Because I certainly didnt see it. Thats another reason why Im suspicious about whether or not this was scripted.
If it is scripted, then its a damn good angle and its just proving that Punk really is one of the best heels this company ever had.
just saw this.
Thats not necessarily true. Theres a good chance if they fired him, they'd have to give him a severance package as most large companies do. All they have to do is bury him for 3 weeks and he'll be out of their hair.
While I know this doesnt prove a damn thing, WWE.com is now reporting that Vince has suspended Punk indefinitely for his unprofessional behavior. In this case the unprofessional behavior could be one or all of the following:
Mentioning rival companies by name.
Mentioning members of said rival company.
Mentioning former WWE employees to whom shall not be named within the WWE company.
Not only mentioning Stephanie, but talking trash about her as well.
Using the word "wrestler" instead of "performer".
Its no secret that Punk has been unhappy within the WWE. So I wouldnt be surprised if he actually did use the promo spot for his own agenda. ESPECIALLY if he doesnt plan on continuing with the company. I wouldnt put it past him to burn that bridge because of how jaded he feels.
Also, one last thing. Was it me, or was there no signing off call sign? Normally when RAW ends, in the lower left hand corner you'll always see WWE broadcast 2011 production. See WWE.com for more details. and then a fade to black to the giant WWE logo. Was it me or was that missing this time around? Because I certainly didnt see it. Thats another reason why Im suspicious about whether or not this was scripted.
If it is scripted, then its a damn good angle and its just proving that Punk really is one of the best heels this company ever had.
just saw this.
Thats not necessarily true. Theres a good chance if they fired him, they'd have to give him a severance package as most large companies do. All they have to do is bury him for 3 weeks and he'll be out of their hair.
enviousdominous
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Bro, have you seen the raw spoilers for next week? It all becomes obvious after reading that. Some of Punks comments were probably not planned, but obviously the show for next week was and Punk didn't disappoint vince in leading up to it.
I'm guessing that if Punk had stopped his commentary after ripping on how the rock is the main event for next wrestlemania, he would have been "suspended" for that. Again, another theory, but I belive that Punk knew that if he was going to get a few ideas out into the open he had a golden opportunity to do it last night.
Punk was great, but the aftermath won't be. cena is trying to get Punk reinstated because he really really really times infinity really wants to face Punk, because he feels that Punk is a good opponent for him.
The reality is a sack of suck known as john cena recognizes the cheers for Punk and boos directed toward him and wants to find a way to appeal to those who cheer for Punk. Having absolutely no ability to raise the bar of his own performance standard, or rather lift it off the ground at all, he chooses to create this angle where he appears to be with us on our appreciation for someone who can actually work.
well i respected him because he didn't do anything like improvising things out in favor of VKM, he earned my respect because now he let someone do the "talk" and let them slap him in the face to realize that "i'm a total failure, ass kisser, no good wrestler" he's a hard worker alright week in, week out, i just read an article that he has multiple injuries and still wrestle which is a complete "b.s"
letting others to bash him about the truth and do nothing it is something that VKM should learn
man, I always read manga's (out of topic) every week and they also have spoilers but none of the spoilers were true, you should know that the show is Monday Night Raw not Friday Night Smackdown
Either way, scripted or not, its good for ratings. Which is probably why it ran for so long. Im not a technician or anything, but Im assuming ending a broadcast isnt as simple as flipping a switch, ESPECIALLY if it leads to deadair on the network.
Im fully confident that Punk could and very much would lay Cena out flat. Cena's 5 moves of doom wouldnt be effective against a guy that knows how to legitimately fight like Punk. Since the WWE is all about Super Cena, seeing him legitimately get layed out would be bad for his image.
enviousdominous
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cena only knew what he was told, and improvising isn't really something he's good at. cena "improvises" by interrupting spots that were already in progress with a stupid move and no-selling moves done to him. Offering a clever comment in regard to clever comments directed at him without the aid of a team of writers? No, cena does not have that in his repertoire of capabilities.
I feel like I should add, I'm a fan of rap and more specifically battle rap. cena raps at about two bars an hour and even then it's obviously something a team of writers and the idiot he's directing it toward had thought of for him. cena still wants to appear afro-centric so he still uses his little rap moves which only make him look like mark wahlberg's ******ed step-cousin.
They didn't pull the plug earlier because Punk was supposed to do a worked shoot and likely close by leaving the mic and walking into the back. I believe that it went on as long as it did because they were anticipating his walking off stage and didn't want to give the IWC a reason to brain storm in regard to what would have been Punks bashing of the anti-bullying campaign.
LOL punks tiny and cenas over 250 pounds and roided up he would destroy punk.
Anyone else giving this promo would be a clear work but punk made it feel real thats why he is one of the best maybe the bst as he says.
But I see him sticking around for a while...
