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CM Punk WINS The WWE Championship!!! Cena fired???

I know this was probablly a worked shoot but I don't care, this promo by Punk is the best thing on WWE tv I've seen since the Attitude Era and probablly the best promo I've ever seen. Punk was so believable with his delivery that it felt completly real and not forced at all. I've already watched the promo three times and I'm likely to go back and watch it a couple more times before I go to bed.

I was already a huge fan of Punk before this, but now he may be my favorite wrestler of all time. I'm so interested by this that theres no chance I'm missing Money In The Bank now and can't wait too see what happens between now and then. I marked out so hard during this promo and I still haven't calmed down. Its promo's like this that make me a huge fan of wrestling and I can't wait to see more.
 
what an AWESOME promo. As for if its real or not,.. I don't think so. WWE just wants you to think it is. They didn't fire him because they need him for the MITB PPV.
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He'll be back sooner or later, but in the meantime, The Rock can use this against Cena as Cena assured him that his match at Mania would be for the title that no one can get anymore. Makes perfect sense as a way to keep Cena from having the belt for the entire year going to Mania next year. Think of it as a speedbump.

anyways, should be interesting.

edit: I removed the part that could be construed as a spoiler, even though I hadn't read the taping for next week. Just proves WWE is way to easy to figure out nowadays.
 
In summation, brilliant idea by the creative team, exquisite delivery by Punk, reminder of why I love the business, stunned that there are so many brain dead idiots out there that still fall into the "It's still real to me, damn it!" category. Those who believe that he went out on his own and "shot" are the reason people make fun of wrestling and those who follow it.
 
First of all I wanted to say that CM PUNK is with out a shadow of a doubt the best wrestler in the WWE. At first I didn't like him, I will admit that. I hated another long haired wrestler. But now he is the best.. His mic skills can't be beat and his abilities in the ring are amazing! If he does in fact leave Vince McMahon will lose the best thing that has ever happened to him.

His Promo was the best promo I have ever heard, I love how he brought up Paul Heyman, Brock Lesnar, Colt Cabana and New Japan Wrestling and ROH, what about TNA? Anyways if I would Vince I would do everything I could to sign his ass now because no one can beat him on the mic.. John Cena isn't great on the mic, he is corney. No one can beat CM PUNK on the mic... If he does leave, what will it mean for the New Nexus. I think with CM PUNK as WWE CHAMP and McGuillicuty and Otunga as Tag Champs all we would need is the big man as the IC CHAMP.. WWE can't end Nexus right now, they are just starting to get good... Unless they have another GREAT HEEL as the leader

ok enough! CM Punk is not the best thing to happen to Vince McMahon, i mean are you serious? I'm sorry but this is the reason mainstream media doesnt pay one bit of attention to the web. And Vince gives a rats ass about IWC. Statements like that is disrespect to the Hogans/Austins/Rocks/Takers/Michales/Cenas, etc etc etc.

Nexus starting to get good? Seriously, have you watched wrestling the last year. The Nexus was huge with the orignals and fell off. then jumped back up briefly when Punk joined, but faded quickly after. Stables don't last forever. theres more money in singles than stables.
 
Okay, I know everyone is buzzing about how CM Punk just made the most shocking "shoot" that has ever happened here in recent memory. But while watching CM Punk's "shoot" once again on youtube, I noticed something. While CM Punk was wowing us with his mic skills, he said the word, "douchebags". While I understood that that word wasn't allowed to be aired on television, a question sparked in my mind.


How could WWE have bleeped out the word, "douchebags" if it was live tv?

If they did, how did they know he was going to say it? Therefore, WWE had to have KNOWN that CM Punk was going to say the word, and they would've had to KNOW that CM Punk was going to go out on the stage and do a "shoot". So with that info, I believe Punk's so called "shoot" was a worked shoot.

Please read this because I truly believe I have uncovered something here.
Please give me your thoughts.......
 
Just watched it on YouTube. C.M. Punk is my new hero. It takes HUGE balls to do what he did and expose the reality of the situation. What a stud! Good luck wherever you end up Punk!
 
I love CM Punk and whether he is really shooting or if this is all one big work (and it is IMO) that promo was just amazing. If he is truly leaving the WWE than he is going out in such a way that he has guaranteed top status wherever he is going (preferably ROH, not IMPACT). I actually think he'll come back to WWE after some time off, I think he just wants the WWE to truly realize how valuable he really is.
 
Here is an interesting theory and would make the WWE a ton of money, as well as giving CM Punk a good farewell.Ring of Honor (ROH) Is Going To Invade WWE Led by CM Punk!!!!!

Now here me out, this is how I see it playing out based on what we know by now.For one, this is all a worked storyline by Vince McMahon.What Punk said, he may have really meant, but it was already discussed that he would be able to say what he wanted before he was cut off.so here is how it starts..

1-CM Punk is "Suspended" which means they will keep him away until Money in the Bank.This makes the storyline believable that what he said was real and keeps us talking about it until the Pay Per View.
2-At MITB, CM Punk makes an appearance and during the MITB match, climbs the ladder and get the title shot. Security comes out and he runs into the crowd and we don't see him. During the Main Event, or after the match, he cashes in his Title Shot and since he is still under contract, gets his chance and wins the Championship.
3-On Raw the next night Mr. McMahon comes out and tries to defend his company by asking CM Punk to hand over the Championship.Punk Cuts a Promo holding the Championship saying how he no longer works for the WWE and is taking the Championship to Ring of Honor, which he already promoted last night, including Colt Cabana.
4-This leads to Triple H coming back to defend his father-in-law demanding to get The Title Back.
5-During the storyline this builds up tension as CM Punk is now with ROH and s a way to promote their upcoming TV debut in September, it creates publicity for ROH and is makes CM Punk the face of that company. Going into Summerslam, this leads a Triple H vs CM Punk Feud.Winner takes the CHampionship, and most likely Triple H wins the CHampionship and CM Punk leaves the company for good and go to Ring Of Honor.

WWE has done this before with ECW.They would never do this with TNA because they are a bigger threat to Vince than ROH. Plus this hurts TNA because they will lose more viewers and ROH will gain more viewers.During this feud, we will see guys from RIng of Honor backing up Punk into Summerslam and will see some interesting matches.I really think that this is possible because it is clear to me that this is being worked.

Just Imagine..a promo backstage where the New Nexus confronts CM Punk saying that he sold them out, and CM Punk tells the Nexus that he has new friends and a bunch of ROH guys jump the Nexus.The ratings would be crazy, each week on Raw.
 
Okay, I know everyone is buzzing about how CM Punk just made the most shocking "shoot" that has ever happened here in recent memory. But while watching CM Punk's "shoot" once again on youtube, I noticed something. While CM Punk was wowing us with his mic skills, he said the word, "douchebags". While I understood that that word wasn't allowed to be aired on television, a question sparked in my mind.


How could WWE have bleeped out the word, "douchebags" if it was live tv?

If they did, how did they know he was going to say it? Therefore, WWE had to have KNOWN that CM Punk was going to say the word, and they would've had to KNOW that CM Punk was going to go out on the stage and do a "shoot". So with that info, I believe Punk's so called "shoot" was a worked shoot.

Please read this because I truly believe I have uncovered something here.
Please give me your thoughts.......

My first thought is that you're not exactly breaking news here. This fact was brought up within the first 20 minutes of Raw going off the air.

However, I disagree with your idea about the WWE knowing he was going to say that. I'm not saying the shoot wasn't a work, I just think Punk ad-libbed that part and dropped a "douche bags" without a second thought. The truth about modern live television is that it isn't perfectly "live." There is a slight delay (maybe 10 seconds) to give them the ability to bleep or mute profane language.
 
cm punk has just reached that next level that very few wrestlers ever do. there is no way that wwe won't resign him. hell he probably did or just did after that amazing shoot promo. hell probably be off for a while and comeback. ROH and NJPW invasion?
 
notice they cut the mic when he was about to mention WWE's bullying program , this was real , he didnt mention TNA because no real wrestler would ever fool around and talk about going there , ask Batista and Brock Lesnar. CM Punk just became the best wrestler of all time with this promo and when he leaves i will no longer watch WWE , well i'll watch Randy Orton matches on Smackdown .
 
Okay, I know everyone is buzzing about how CM Punk just made the most shocking "shoot" that has ever happened here in recent memory. But while watching CM Punk's "shoot" once again on youtube, I noticed something. While CM Punk was wowing us with his mic skills, he said the word, "douchebags". While I understood that that word wasn't allowed to be aired on television, a question sparked in my mind.


How could WWE have bleeped out the word, "douchebags" if it was live tv?

If they did, how did they know he was going to say it? Therefore, WWE had to have KNOWN that CM Punk was going to say the word, and they would've had to KNOW that CM Punk was going to go out on the stage and do a "shoot". So with that info, I believe Punk's so called "shoot" was a worked shoot.

Please read this because I truly believe I have uncovered something here.
Please give me your thoughts.......

Its called a delay, even though it's live tv there is a 3 or 7 second delay just incase they need to bleep or blur something out that is inappropriate for the kiddies or sensitive people.

This was an absolutely awsome segment by Punk whether it was a work, partial work, or a shoot. The emotion was there and he made it believable, it is the best promo I've seen in many years in any promotion and CM Punk deserves to be praised for it because it has the internet/IWZ buzzing like nothing I have ever seen before concerning wrestling. ALL HAIL PUNK!
 
For people opting for a ROH invasion...

Nope. Not gonna happen. There is no way in hell that Jim Cornette or the people behind ROH would EVER work with Vince, especially Cornette. Those two are practically the anti-thesis to one another.

Now, as for the promo, jesus christ.It was awesome and everything, but I sure as hell hope it was a worked shoot, or else Punk will have to take TNA or ROH or some other promotion to the top, because otherwise he just shot ANY chance of coming back to WWE in the foot.
 
is to have CM Punk win the championship and kayfabe leave the WWE title and tour other organizations, defending the WWE title in NJPW and ROH. That would be such a crazy thing to do, and something that hasn't been done since the old territorial NWA days. I would go fucking bananas to see the WWE title being defended in different organizations. It's time to shake things up Vince, and storywise I think this would be a major moment for wrestling fans everywhere.Meanwhile back in RAW land, Vince has Cena chasing CM Punk allover these other organizations, encountering obstacles and wrestlers who stand in Cena's way of regaining back the WWE title where it belongs. This could go all the way to Wrestlemania if they do this right..what do you guys think?

PS I've been a longtime lurker but I was in awe of CM Punk's promo tonight, one of the best I have ever seen
 
I def see some sort of Invasion storyline with Punk leading Ring of Honor and taking on Vince and the WWE. Even Colt Cabana tanked Punk on his Twitter page.It's almost like its setting up for Punk to take the CHampionship and have some big Business Warfare SToryline between Vince and outside promotions.This could also lead to either a Cena Heel Turn, by Cena Kissing Vince's Ass to keep his job, and the fade away from the PG Era into the TV-14 Era again.WHich can only build up the Rock vs Cena at Wrestlemania.
 
Holy crap! I really hope he doesn't leave the WWE anymore. That promo was nuts and the guys in the back hopefully will watch that promo and learn a thing or two. Punk got everyone in a stir and I was speechless!
 
Dope ending to Monday Night RAW no matter if it was real or not. Enjoyed the show & I was entertained by the ending. Already read the spoilers for next week's RAW and I can't wait for RAW in two weeks. CM Punk has always been a favorite of mine. I loved when he used the word "WRESTLER" and not "Superstar" or "Sports Entertainer". Tip of the cap to CM Punk.
 
Easily the best worked shoot on WWE programming since Joey Styles quit RAW back in 2006 (not that we've seen a ton of them since.)

I mean this was truly legendary. As if it wasn't glaringly obvious enough that he's their best on the mic, this should solidify everything. WWE would be fucking foolish not to do everything in their power to keep him around. Then again, the WWE is pretty fucking foolish.
 
what a freakin promo... it was awesome and everything people were thinking anyways. It was obviously a work though because there are two things he would have mentioned had it been a straight shoot... chavo and TNA, he did neither even though I thought he was going to drop the TNA bomb and instead he gave a shout out to Colt. I love how they have him saying he's the best WRESTLER despite that word being out of the WWE vernacular. Also, why would he blast the WWE and still have a ppv date to work, I almost think a previous poster was right and Punk signed some sort of deal, though I'm curious if after all this he doesn't leave will he lose some kind of cred? Unless maybe they have Vince come out and say he owns Punk and he can't leave then maybe it can work.
 
Hell yah !

you guys didn't got it correctly!

the fact is that there can be two possible things regarding this.

1. Punk surely leaving WWE-

when wwe gave the chance to become the no. 1 Condenteder for WWE title. Punk officialy declared that he is leaving WWE. Again note Punk was perhaps the most underrated man in the company and obviouly he hated the PG stuff and was furious after Heyman was forced to leave WWE.
punk had all these thinks in mind and so, he took the oppurtunity to say to universe about how he feels. Note...Punk might have got the confidence to say these things because Batista just somedays ago complained about WWE becoming a crap of PG where there is no wrestling.
Even remember that Micheal Cole announced that Punk has been suspended from wwe for infinite time.
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2. PG Era coming to a END.

At last perhaps after Linda McMohan lost in the elections. Vince realized that PG is not going to make any thing for Linda.

And so he is going to bring the PG era to an end slowly through an invasion angle of Heyman Army that will consist of Punk, returning Brock Lesner, and many more Heyman guys.
according to me if this happens It will surely make vince a billionare. Ok, so just wait untill the shadow is removed from the darkness.
 
Here's the transcript of the whole thing.

John Cena, while you lay there, hopefully as uncomfortable as you possibly can be, I want you to listen to me.

I want you to digest this because before I leave in 3 weeks with your WWE Championship, I have a lot of things I want to get off my chest.

I don’t hate you, John. I don’t even dislike you. I do like you. I like you a hell of a lot more than I like most people in the back.

I hate this idea that you’re the best. Because you’re not. I’m the best. I’m the best in the world. There’s one thing you’re better at than I am and that’s kissing Vince McMahon’s ass.

You’re as good as kissing Vince McMahon’s ass as Hulk Hogan was. I don’t know if you’re as good as Dwayne though. He’s a pretty good ass kisser. Always was and still is.

Whoops! I’m breaking the fourth wall! (Punk waves to the camera)

I am the best wrestler in the world.

I’ve been the best since day one when I walked into this company. And I’ve been vilified and hated since that day because Paul Heyman saw something in me that nobody else wanted to admit. That’s right, I’m a Paul Heyman guy. You know who else was a Paul Heyman guy? Brock Lesnar. And he split just like I’m splitting. But the biggest difference between me and Brock is I’m going to leave with the WWE Championship.

I’ve grabbed so many of Vincent K. McMahon’s brass rings that it’s finally dawned on me that there just that, they’re completely imaginary. The only thing that’s real is me and the fact that day in and day out, for almost six years, I have proved to everybody in the world that I am the best on this microphone, in that ring, even in commentary! Nobody can touch me!

And yet no matter how many times I prove it, I’m not on your lovely little collector cups. I’m not on the cover of the program. I’m barely promoted. I don't get to be in movies. I’m certainly not on any crappy show on the USA Network. I’m not on the poster of WrestleMania. I’m not on the signature that’s produced at the start of the show. I’m not on Conan O’Brian. I’m not on Jimmy Fallon. But the fact of the matter is, I should be.

This isn’t sour grapes. But the fact that Dwayne is in the main event at WrestleMania next year and I’m not makes me sick!

Oh hey, let me get something straight. Those of you who are cheering me right now, you are just as big a part of me leaving as anything else. Because you’re the ones who are sipping on those collector cups right now. You’re the ones that buy those programs that my face isn’t on the cover of. And then at five in the morning at the airport, you try to shove it in my face and get an autograph and try to sell it on Ebay because you’re too lazy to go get a real job.

I’m leaving with the WWE Championship on July 17th. And hell, who knows, maybe I’ll go defend it in New Japan Pro Wrestling. Maybe…I’ll go back to Ring of Honor.

(Punk looks at the camera and waves)

Hey, Colt Cabana, how you doing?

The reason I’m leaving is you people. Because after I’m gone, you’re still going to pour money into this company. I’m just a spoke on the wheel. The wheel is going to keep turning and I understand that. Vince McMahon is going to make money despite himself. He’s a millionaire who should be a billionaire. You know why he’s not a billionaire? Because he surrounds himself with glad-handed, non-sensical, douchebag (censored) yes men, like John Laurinaitis, who’s going to tell him everything he wants to hear, and I’d like to think that maybe this company will better after Vince McMahon is dead. But the fact is, it’s going to be taken over by his idiotic daughter and his doofus son-in-law and the rest of his stupid family.

Let me tell you a personal story about Vince McMahon alright. We do this whole (anti) bully campaign

Mic cut off.
 
ok guys im doing some research on this crazy thing.

1st- Obviously scripted can see why it looked real I thought so too but after reviewing the clip a couple of times its scripted

2nd- Please don't take the fact he mentioned Colt Cabanas name means hes joining Nexus or somthing like that in WWE, he had his time recently and blew it

3rd- New Japan Wrestling is a known wrestling company throughout the world and is very respected plus outside the U.S. it is kind of impossible to get on TV or understand them

4th- I THINK.......WWE is funding ROH in some which way - shape or form and i think this has been going on for years.
June 12,2004 the first match of the incredible 3 matches between Samoe Joe and CM Punk. The wrestling world starts going nuts on October 17, 2004, 1 day removed from CM Punk v. Joe II and that match becomes ROH biggest selling DVD of all time and rated a 5 STAR MATCH and Punk and Joe have put ROH on the map as a legit company. In June 2005, Punk accepted a deal with World Wrestling Entertainment, after a try-out match against Val Venis on its Sunday Night Heat show. EVEN THOUGH HE ACCEPTED THE DEAL, Punk went on to defeat Austin Aries with his Pepsi Plunge move, winning the ROH World Championship on June 18, 2005 at Death Before Dishonor III. Punk threatens fans and locker room he will bring ROH title to WWE and defend it there (sound familiar dont it believe thats what he said tonight regarding WWE title). MICK FOLEY ,a WWE employee who appeared as a color commentator at WWE's ECW One Night Stand, which aired on June 12, 2005, and subsequently renewed his contract with WWE. (Punk won the title 6 days later and his regin as champ did not last long losing it on August 12,2005) During this short reign MICK FOLEY (under WWE contract and any WWE contract prohibits appearances at other promotions) made 7!......7! appearances at ROH to try and persuade punk to do the right thing because Punk was going to leave with the title and HE SIGNED HIS WWE CONTRACT ON THE ROH TITLE. WWE is now involved with ROH either funding it or something like that either way they're involved in some way

5th- Daniel Bryan is now a WWE superstar and former ROH champ with his reign coming after Punk's

6th- ROH holds an event called "Night Of Champions" on March 22, 2003. WWE holds PPVs with the same exact name (Dont ROH if they are independent have rights to that name and can sue WWE)

7th- WWE is involved with ROH
 
Wait wait wait... people are looking at THIS to be the signal to the end of PG? What the fuck? Where in this entire goddam promo does Punk mention anything that even has anything remotely to do with PG? PG was never brought up, PG wasn't mentioned, there was absolutely NOTHING said about the actual content of the shows but rather with the backstage politicking.
 
I'm glad someone is shooting straight from the hip, I hate this watered down non-sense they sell. I have seen Punk come to the garden at a supershow last year and had the best mic work and best match I seen in person against kane. He took everything the gave him in a negative aspect and used it on them. Punk is entitled to complain 6 years of loyalty and no back stabbing on twitter or doing a famous "hogan no sell" in any of his matches. I hope Punk succeeds without Vinny mac's watered down 21st century version of Monday Night Nitro from the bill watts days. Punk is like Shawn Michaels in 97' not afraid to be himself. That's what sold tickets not a fake fruity pebble superman mixed with Marky Mark's wardrobe, come on vince you where an ass long before Punk made one out of you.lol
 

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