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CM Punk WINS The WWE Championship!!! Cena fired???

IF this was a worked shoot, this BETTER be hush, hush and NOBODY better tell Meltzer or ANY OF THOSE GUYS ANYTHING!!!! This is gold but could turn to shit really quickly IF this was a worked shoot and IF it got leaked. This could be EPIC written all over it. Imagine if you were in the audience. WOW.

The WZ site is already posting stories on the backstage reactions to the "worked shoot" promo. Some knew it was coming, others did not. I guarantee Meltzer will have some good info on this by tomorrow, he is really good at getting that stuff. Its too hard this day in age to keep something like this under wraps, maybe 10 years ago but not now with all the social media stuff.
 
Amazing promo. Obviously a worked shoot, they blanked out what looked to be "douchebag." It was a work, not doubt. Mostly all of WWE's shoot's have been worked.

I have to stay, it was one of the best promo in a long while. The realism, the heel heat he'll generate, the fact it's playing to the internet smark's, everything wasj ust put together nicely. It started off as another promo, then he started mentioning people kick Vince McMahon's ass, and it was all out from them.

Them cutting him mic, the show, his Facebook account, his Twitter account, suspending him, just add's more to the realism of something that was obviously fake.

People give alot of bad-mouthing to Vince McMahon, but he is a friggen' genius. And I'm pretty sure Punk has signed a new contract, this promo just added to the romur's that he didn't like his position in the company. Don't see them doing something like this if he was gonna leave in 3 week's after a low-tier PPV.

Hopefully we get more news about this tommorrow.
 
I haven't had a chance to read through everyone's comments yet, but wow. I'm just blown away by Punk's amazing shoot. I don't even know what to think about this. Is it legit? Was it planned to look like he was being cut off at the end? I need to know!! But either way, what an unforgettable end to Raw.
 
yeah i think Punk has signed a deal with the WWE that has been amazingly kept secret and i believe this is all an amazing idea to make the IWC and everyone else tune into RAW next week!

RAW isnt even live next week and im not gonna read the spoilers cuz i wanna be surprised when Punk shows up and i KNOW he will!

BEST promo since the Rocks first promo when he was announced the host of mania! MAN i am so pumped from this! FUCK YOU TNA! LOVE YOU WWE!
 
why do people think that on live television and everything in the WWE is scripted? If that is the case then Punk should have an emmy. How many times did people say Bret Hart's screw job was a work when it happened only later to find out it was a shoot?

How about when Nash and Hall showed up in WCW, people thought it was a shoot, but then a work.

Sometimes you have to truly decipher fact from fiction or wrestling television has you by the balls. If you know the recent news behind CM Punk and WWE negotiations, you have to consider that it began as a work and turned into a shoot. it doesnt have to be all one and not the other. We know Punk is frustrated and his emotions could have easily gotten the best of him and he got carried away. My money is on work then shoot. Watch Cena, why did Cena stop selling the table the longer the "worked angle" continued? What's the point of that? Why a quick removal of anything CM Punk on WWE?

Why would Punk need to make things so real if the casual fan has no understanding of what he's talking about. You think the casual fan jumps onto wrestlezone.com to read about Punks contract? Of course not, so why the focus on topics that go on behind the scene for a PG audience?

You think the WWE really cares about Punk as much as Punk cares about Punk when they have a stockpile of younger guys moving into villan roles? Punk is, has, and always will be expendable and it's up to Punk to decide whether to hold onto his stardum in WWE or lose it on the indy circuit.
 
Best angle to come out of Creative in a long, long time. Reminds me of why I have been a life long fan of the business. Just goes to show what can happen when you put a good end game idea in the hands of a very talented performer. Weeks and weeks of grist for the mill and a myriad of directions to go down the line. This is what sells! Just look at the "current active users viewing this thread". The 10 percenters and the other 90 percent ( no matter what group you consider yourself to be part of) are all here, discussing a storyline. PG, attitude, old school, whatever! Put talent together with brilliant storytelling and the masses will tune in. Well done, well done!!!
 
CM Punk was on fire. This was the first time in a long time I turned to RAW & am glad I did. If he keeps this up he could be in the same league as Piper, Flair & Roberts.

I was also glad to see Booker T, HBK & DDP.

Hope this leads to Punk vs Austin at WM. Maybe for the World Title.
 
Lol, this line off of Punk's promo tonight has probably been on many of the more "smart" fans minds including myself, another way of saying, "man I really feel like I could do this better than they do". This isn't about that per se but I feel like it was the one qoute that summed Punk's promo up best.

This is about the many changes that WWE has gone through over the past few years. To some it may seem like Vince is just doing the same old things but maybe he's just been working off of a ten year plan since 2004 or something. He's been breaking down the wrestling formula for a long time now, from the basics, seemingly so he can rebuild wrestling into w/e their going to call it in the future.

Now I've wanted to write about this for a long time, but honestly I could write a book, and this won't grab much attention anyway, but I'll give it a go anyway.

Match structure is completely based on HDTV nowadays which was to me, the first most obvious difference between old and new wrestling. Going to a live WWE show and watching it on TV is more likely more similar than it has ever been. With the advent of HDTV it seems like they choreograph a lot more of what their doing in the ring in order to get the best shots for the camera which in my opinion makes the new wrestling product look much more fake on television. Anyone thats been watching for a long time knows that Sin Cara Vs. Evan Bourne would've looked a lot different ten years ago(not to mention 15 years ago in WcW). I feel like that type of thing has hindered guys like Sin Cara from being as great as they can be because they have to go so slow to perform these ridiculous(but awesome) moves that they could never connect on in real life. A guy like Sin Cara's biggest advantage in the ring theoretically is his speed, which would allow him to make the types of moves he does in the ring. It might sound like I'm making excuses(and maybe I am, because they're good ones too) but I'm fairly sure thats why he was botching when he came in, he used to wrestling at a certain pace, when you slow him down that much its going to take time to adjust.

Now I feel like Vince is making a mistake in that example in particular, but what if its all part of the bigger picture. Obviously Vince let wrestling out of the closet a long time ago, but he wasn't done. I think he wants to remove any doubt about the fakeness of wrestling and make it into a complete tv show(or a cartoon). Hence Santino. Hence guest hosts. Hence The Miz(no offense Mizfits but I still think I can whup his ass!). Hence a Lap Top for a GM(ridiculous). Hence everything about Michael Cole for the past year.

Question is what lies in the future. CM Punks promo is the biggest thing thats happened in WWE in a long time(I would say wrestling but lets be honest, WWE is the only thing that matters). Definate game changer. He said things tonight and broke the "4th wall"in so many ways they surely couldn't just go back to things as they were last week and just not acknowledge anything he's done, unless of course it somehow was actually a work(I seriously DOUBT that, CM Punk said nothing that would actually be offensive to anyone outside the wrestling community. Whatever Punk would've said about the bullying thing could be used against Linda McMahon in the future, they knews he was going to talk some shit ahead of time).

Could ROH be working with the WWE as someone else suggested(they seem to have a working relationship as it is). Will this be the end of the seeming 240 pound standard? Where does the WWE go from here. I've heard of a show on Nickolodean(which could spell the end of my days as a fan, along with similar moves) could Vince's plan be to target children only? Where is WWE going as a whole, and what are Vince's billionaire ideas.
 
it was definitely a work. Only because if it wasn't they would have never let if fly on tv for as long as they did. IF it WAS an actual shoot don't you think he'd wait until after Money in the Bank to say stuff way more worse than what he said?
 
We all know that was insanely awesome. All im trying to figure out is why Punk's FB and wwe.com pages were pulled if this was just a work.


PS: Everyone on here raves about how Jomo should become WWE Champion, well when he's able to put on a promo half as sweet and real as CM Punk's then maybe he'll have his chance.
 
Great promo by Punk, just absolutley astounding.

Of course it was fake, it's pro wrestling, everything is fake with VERY few exceptions. But this just goes to show that Vince can pull off some awesome stuff every now and again. Get the biggest current IWC hero to go on a rant that seems real to get the internet into a huge frenzy leading into a PPV.

As others have said, yeah it seemed shocking that he mentioned HHH and Stephanie and such, but we've heard worse things about them on WWE TV before. Had it actually been real/unapproved, it would have been cut off right away, and they wouldn't have blanked out "douchebag".

How awesome is Punk though, to be able to make that seem so real? This makes me think he's already re-signed and they have plans down the road for him. Not to say he still won't "leave" after the PPV, with or without the belt, to keep the angle going, but it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.
 
I think what people are failing to mention is the fact that CM Punk didn't receive one "WHAT?" chant. That shows how great his promo was and how he had the crowd on a string.

My last post was removed (not a biggie, I think it's because I included spoilers; so this is a shorter version without the spoilers, just opinions. Sorry mods, I'll be careful now. All this excitement is getting me crazy.) :)

I agree with KrackDiesel on this; people were actually LISTENING TO THE HEEL for the first time in a long, long time. No whats, booing not just in 'the places they were meant to', but in the places they actually felt angry. Listen to the sudden surge of boos towards the end, when Punk rails against the capitalist machinations.

Also I think tonight ironically shows how much Punk is valued by WWE. He questions kayfabe, he questions the people who run the company, the people who will run the company. Taz said it on Twitter, Punk's lucky - not even Orton and Cena will get a chance to do promos like this, because even in character, they're company guys.

Which means, finally, that I now believe Punk's not leaving. I was skeptical of those who said he wasn't - but that was before tonight. Still, I don't know for sure; this has been well played by WWE and we shall see. :)
 
CM Punk was on fire. This was the first time in a long time I turned to RAW & am glad I did. If he keeps this up he could be in the same league as Piper, Flair & Roberts.

I was also glad to see Booker T, HBK & DDP.

Hope this leads to Punk vs Austin at WM. Maybe for the World Title.

Really? Really? REALLY?! Dude you are expecting way too much from WWE. It's one thing to have a great promo from a top superstar but it's another to think this match will happen.

Don't get me wrong I would love to see it and it would be awesome it's just not gonna happen. I guess it's nice to have a dream though :rolleyes:
 
The WWE should have "fired" him instead "suspending" him. It would have been the cherry on top of a great angle.
 
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-06-27/mcmahon-suspends-punk

So the suspension thing is on WWEs official site now , I don't know what to think of any of this

My heart says this is all real , that was a legit shoot and he really is suspended and out of the title match

But then my head says there is a chance that this is all a work and that he will be unsuspended or show up on RAW next week despite being 'suspended' and continue to be in the match at MITB

Who knows but this is the biggest thing to happen in the WWE since the original Nexus debuted

Edit : What the hell they removed him from the roster page and took down his facebook page , this may actually be real
 
After CM Punk's phenomenal worked shoot tonight and his mention of ROH, I remembered that the Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli) had a match for WWE that went pretty well and may be coming to the WWE. I got to thinking that these things could be connected. Maybe WWE is gonna try another stable with CM Punk, like an ROH invasion of sorts.

Have Punk leave and have the Kings come in and do alright, but, seem to be held down to other talents. 6 months later, Punk comes back as an invite and personal manager to the kings and defender of the independent wrestlers. Notice how Punk emphasized the word "wrestler" and that he was the best during his awesome promo.

If they do make a stable out of it, I'd include Bryan Danielson and bring back Kaval/Low Ki to round it out. A major fued that could be is the ROH/independents against the "legacy" type guys that were born into wrestling and are second/third/forth generation stars like Orton, Rhodes, Debiase.
 
And as someone else said, if it were completely "real", he wouldn't have dissed the people cheering for him. He did that to keep his heat, because he knew the smarks would be eating up what he was saying. Just awesome, best promo in a long time from anyone. 10/10.
 
I dunno if it has been posted here, but here it is the video of Punk's rant. It was as good as people said it was I just wish I had seen it live.

Complete work, otherwise they would have stopped him the first time he went off script, and when he mention Brock or Ring of Honor. Very very well done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNq5lQMUQu0
 
First of all, to all the people going out of their way to bash everyone who suggests the promo might be real, you really need to shut the hell up. You're the equivalent of the guy who sits in the crowd at magic shows and mocks people for being amazed.

Second of all, great promo. Part of me does think it's real, especially when Punk got on the whole bullying campaign schtick. I think I'm going to watch the west coast feed to see if it is kept in, that'll be how I decide if it was a work or shoot.
 
And as someone else said, if it were completely "real", he wouldn't have dissed the people cheering for him. He did that to keep his heat, because he knew the smarks would be eating up what he was saying. Just awesome, best promo in a long time from anyone. 10/10.

not true, Punk has never been a WWE guy and has never truly embarked on accpeting the WWE mold. The fan base is a WWE mold, and he knows the loyalty of the fans lie with the company and not with him. He knows that if he leaves those casual fans will not look for him or remember him.
 
CM PUNK is the BEST in the WWE today. in a day where all heels get killed/ made to look like idiots... he is the bright spot in the heel "division". they crap on christain, drew mac, dolph, cody, you name it. yet they push mark henry, and khali???? REALLY, REALLY, Rally... as miz would say. CM PUNK is the man... i am so tired of orton and cena. i know the IWC been said that but i was giving them the benefit of the doubt, until now. GO PUNK!!!!
 
First of all I wanted to say that CM PUNK is with out a shadow of a doubt the best wrestler in the WWE. At first I didn't like him, I will admit that. I hated another long haired wrestler. But now he is the best.. His mic skills can't be beat and his abilities in the ring are amazing! If he does in fact leave Vince McMahon will lose the best thing that has ever happened to him.

His Promo was the best promo I have ever heard, I love how he brought up Paul Heyman, Brock Lesnar, Colt Cabana and New Japan Wrestling and ROH, what about TNA? Anyways if I would Vince I would do everything I could to sign his ass now because no one can beat him on the mic.. John Cena isn't great on the mic, he is corney. No one can beat CM PUNK on the mic... If he does leave, what will it mean for the New Nexus. I think with CM PUNK as WWE CHAMP and McGuillicuty and Otunga as Tag Champs all we would need is the big man as the IC CHAMP.. WWE can't end Nexus right now, they are just starting to get good... Unless they have another GREAT HEEL as the leader
 
I have to admit it was one of the best promos ever.But come on its all kayfabe if u actually believed for a second it was real then u have serious mental issues.Anyways good job to wwe and cm punk for trying to make it seem real.
 
Hello to all! This is the first time I have ever decided to sign up and register.After coming to this site well before the days of the Raw/Nitro Wars, Finally the ending of Raw kept me on edge!!!!Finally something that had me saying "HOLY SHIT."." Something that kept me in the palm of his hand...Finally something that made me want to register on this site after all this time of watching other blogs and topics, and post a reply about what I saw tonight. Not since the days of The Rock and Stone Cold days has anyone dished out a promo like that...NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!! He just dealt a promo that was so awesome that whether it was a "shoot" or "work" (and i couldnt tell you the diffrence between the two are, was one for the DVD collection. That Awesome!!Finally, a ending that was executed the way endings "used" to be executed....by keeping you wanting more......Thank you CM Punk for that shot of fresh air. it has been stale for, oh, Id say about 7 years....
 
great promo. whether it was real or work it had me believing and a lot of people as well so well done. i'm starting to wonder if punk did re-sign with wwe and this could a start of an ROH uprising. put punk, daniel bryan and maybe the kings of wrestling in a stable?
 

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