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BILL LESNAR UNLEASHED IN PRISON

Hey, Bill, here's something I posted in the main forum.

I mean, he's still a face, obviously. He gets the loudest pops and people love him. But after his actions last night (tossing the flowers, mercilessly making fun of Vickie, and eventually getting drilled by Punk who was just giving him a taste of his own medicine), is Cena still a 'good guy'?

For some reason I feel that the Cena of old wouldn't have gotten so pissed if he had gotten slapped by Vickie. He probably would have shrugged it off, but man he looked ready to AA her.

Could this be WWE's attempt at making him "edgy", or less goody-goody?

Note - I thought the whole segment last night was hilarious, including the dumb fat jokes. I also love Cena; he's my third favorite wrestler.

Thoughts?
 
The [OFFICIAL] ScreaminNormanSmiley;2693242 said:
Bill and Jenks have been banned for months, you have been banned for what now, a week? They also had the ability to be entertaining, and people wanted them back, mostly Bill but Jenks has some supporters too.

Didn't they make alts like me and didn't Jenks do the same thing like me? I understand what your saying but the bottom line is that Jenks and BL are only brought back by how popular they were. How come they get the special treatment and we banned 4life posters don't?
 
Didn't they make alts like me and didn't Jenks do the same thing like me? I understand what your saying but the bottom line is that Jenks and BL are only brought back by how popular they were. How come they get the special treatment and we banned 4life posters don't?

Because you touch yourself at night.
 
Hey, kissing ass does wonders for me, at least in real life anyways. Nothing says good grades better then being a teachers pet.

So what? The high school drop outs who are going to overdose in 2 years don't like you? I kiss teachers ass, teacher likes me, teacher gives me nice grades.

My Spanish teacher gave me a 19/20 on test. I went through the test, and saw about 10 marked wrong answers.
:shrug:

Man you gotta balance that shit out, help them carry things/hold a door open/etc, but be a douche during class

Also you can prevent the whole needing to be nice to get good grades by actually studying

P.S. Stinger's wife
 
Well done Bill. Really liked your smackdown post. In your opinion what is going to be the main event for the Smackdown brand going into Wrestlemania?

Just improve your spelling a bit. Other than that the post was very good.

Bill lesnar is thinking this:

wont be a guy from SD, roster is too weak. If takers ready to retunr, Edeg wont be getting his grubby hands on a mania return. Edeg will turn heel eventually anyway. Heels on SD are too weak to headline mania as are the faces.

HHH knowing his ego could win the rumble and challenge Edge, in a fued that is relatively fresh, HHH would be face (Bill Lesnar prefers heel), and Edge is heel, this would be a definate draw aswell, Orton could also fill this role as well or even punk to a lesser extent (that would be face edge vs heel punk). Edge is the only guy on SD who can be in the ME at Mania anyway. Fuck WWE could surprise us all, and keep pushing Wade, allowing him to win the rumble or even Sheamus, as these guys need a change of scenery.

However Bill Lesnar has heard rumours that Vince wants one belt. So unification could mean, putting Cena or Oton or even HHH as the surprise entrant at the chambr, allowing them to have the belt. So we something like Miz or Raw champ (depends on how well Miz draws, if he draws he keeps the strap till mania vs Rumble winner vs Sd champ (likely to be a Raw guy. So maybe Miz vs Cena vs Orton.

This all depends on Taker being fit though, if hes fit. Bill lesnar sees him vs Cena (title unification)

will be easier to tell, once the rumble winner is decided

on a sidenote, Bill Lesnar thinks Title unification is a shit idea, however it is highly likely to happen. Once Vince has his mind made up on something, it rarely changes.
 
Now that Bill is actually expressing his thoughts about wrestling, I'm liking him less and less.
 
I mean, he's still a face, obviously. He gets the loudest pops and people love him. But after his actions last night (tossing the flowers, mercilessly making fun of Vickie, and eventually getting drilled by Punk who was just giving him a taste of his own medicine), is Cena still a 'good guy'?

For some reason I feel that the Cena of old wouldn't have gotten so pissed if he had gotten slapped by Vickie. He probably would have shrugged it off, but man he looked ready to AA her.

Could this be WWE's attempt at making him "edgy", or less goody-goody?

Note - I thought the whole segment last night was hilarious, including the dumb fat jokes. I also love Cena; he's my third favorite wrestler.


Bill lesnar thinks WWE has been trying to make edgy for a fucking long time. His matches have been more intense, and his promos have more conviction in them. WWE caters to kids atm, and in their mind good guy Cena eventually beating up on bad guy Punk = win for them, thye dont think about reasons etc at least in Vinces mind. Taker has beaten up on Vickie in the past, adn the fans still love him, Cean also has been mcoking guys for a while now, Bishoff,Christian,booker,angle,edge,nexus etc all as a face. Some of the shit he said to them was much worse than calling Vikcie fat. Cean of old would have done the same thing, again beating up on a crappy heel like Vickie will give him a mega pop. Bill lesnar thinks the wwe wanst to make Cean heel, however they are worried about thier merc sales etc if thye do, Orton is being tested atm to see if he can fill Cenas shoes, and Bill lesnar thinks the wwe were seriously considering a turn at SS, but dropped the ball out of fear for thier merc slaes and ratings. They would lose the kids that the Pg era is rated for. Bill lesnar just said, you shouldnt look into too much, if a turn will happen, it wont happen til mania, and Cena needs the right guy to do it. If TNA ups thier game, and actually provides soem real competition, Vince may actually pull the trigger...

Bill Lesnar didnt think Austin would turn heel either but he did. SO yeah, WWE are looking for something to do with Cena atm, hes always had this ort of streak in him, and expect him to be pulling the same stuff hes done in the last 2 years right through till mania/

p.s Bill Lesnar isnt a fan of Cena however he recognises that he has done something HHH tried to do but couldnt and thats carry the product on his shoulders since Brock left
 
Bill lesnar hasnt forgotten the forum against Bill Lesnar thread. He vaguely remembers you being a member

Doesn't mean that I hated you , Just giving you shit as im sure alot of people do, but the 3rd person was funny as first now you can cool it. you got your name out there buy doing that and I dont think you need to do it anymore.
 
Doesn't mean that I hated you , Just giving you shit as im sure alot of people do, but the 3rd person was funny as first now you can cool it. you got your name out there buy doing that and I dont think you need to do it anymore.

Bill lesnar will be making simliar style wrestling posts in non spam. However he will leave what he does in the cage up to interpretation
 
I mean, he's still a face, obviously. He gets the loudest pops and people love him. But after his actions last night (tossing the flowers, mercilessly making fun of Vickie, and eventually getting drilled by Punk who was just giving him a taste of his own medicine), is Cena still a 'good guy'?

For some reason I feel that the Cena of old wouldn't have gotten so pissed if he had gotten slapped by Vickie. He probably would have shrugged it off, but man he looked ready to AA her.

Could this be WWE's attempt at making him "edgy", or less goody-goody?

Note - I thought the whole segment last night was hilarious, including the dumb fat jokes. I also love Cena; he's my third favorite wrestler.

Aright, I'm gonna respond too The good Doctor here's post, because it's pretty much the most important topic in WWE, at the moment.

While I watched RAW last night, as Cena and Jerry Lawler went tit-for-tat verbally abusing Vickie Guerrerro about her weight (Vickie's so fat ... "She wakes up in sections," "Her bathtub has stretch marks," "Her baby pictures had to be taken by satellite.") I noticed two faces.

The first was that of retired professional baseball player, Kevin Millar. You might remember him as the "Cowboy Up!" guy from the 2004 World Series Champion Boston Red Sox, also known as The Idiots. Millar was seated right behind Jerry The King and he was standing up with his son in his hands (I'm not sure if anyone else noticed him or WWE acknowledged him at any point.)
While Cena and Lawler were making fun of Vickie, Millar had a bit of a raised eye brow, awkward look on his face kind of like "I thought Cena was suppose to be the good guy, not some bully."

The second face I noticed, was CM Punk's. He also seemed to have an issue about what was being said and I think he said something like "What the heck is going on" during it, but you'd have to expect the same from Punk's character anyway just because he doesn't like Cena.

The thing I find interesting is Punk has been finding issue with Cena's moral flaws as of late and I think it will be interesting to see, how far WWE goes with it. What I mean by this is Punk found fault with Cena when he was fired for jumping the guardrail and attacking the wrestlers saying that he should be arrested. Punk also talked about how Cena brutally attacked Barrett and when leaving Raw last night made a comment about Cena's vicious nature.

So what I'm wondering is, will WWE allow Punk to come out, keep the face heat he's built up, and call Cena what we all know he is ....

A PHONEY!

It seems like a storyline like this would set the foundation for Cena's heel turn, it doesn't seem very likely, but I'm interested to see what happens next.

And as for Cena being a phoney, that's what he is. That's why the kids, women like him and the men see through his bullshit. He's wrestling's version of Alex Rodriguez.

Do you think Sting or a Bret Hart(baby face) would ever come out and take joy in making fat jokes about a 40 something yr old widower? Or attack his opponents like Cena does. Check out this vid from February of a match between Cena and DiBiase. Cena was pissed about something Batista did and came out and took it out on Ted DiBiase who'd done nothing too him at the time (It probably had something to do with Marine 2, Cena's a jealous bastard.)

[YOUTUBE]Z23rSpCC5IY[/YOUTUBE]

I don't think people dislike Cena because he's too goody goody, it's because he's a phoney. That's why they want a heel turn so badly, their tired of the facade. Cena's not going anywhere and he won't be pushed down to the midcard,(what I mean by that is that he's always going to get a good percentage of TV time) so a heel turn is the only thing you can look forward too.

The problem last night with the Vickie bashing wasn't so much about Vickie, but the message it sends to kids. If John Cena makes fat jokes, or any jokes about appearance such as Sheamus' skin tone and red heads, then it must be alright for me to do it and I'll do it because people think it's funny.

I'm hoping CM Punk some how remains face through all of this, I believe if that were the case then it could be an epic storyline, but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. The odd thing about WWE is Cole is a huge Miz mark and apparently he is close with Cena as well (Cena hugged him when he was fired.) Would be nice to see some original, intertwined- keep you guessing, well-written storylines come back to the WWE.

But as of now, I have no idea what direction that there going in and what is on purpose and what is coincidental. And that's to be expected from a company led by a Vince McMahon, a wrestling promoter version of Roman Polanski and his son-in-law Triple H who thinks of rotting corpses as slam pigs (Katie Vick.)
 
Aright, I'm gonna respond too The good Doctor here's post, because it's pretty much the most important topic in WWE, at the moment.

While I watched RAW last night, as Cena and Jerry Lawler went tit-for-tat verbally abusing Vickie Guerrerro about her weight (Vickie's so fat ... "She wakes up in sections," "Her bathtub has stretch marks," "Her baby pictures had to be taken by satellite.") I noticed two faces.

The first was that of retired professional baseball player, Kevin Millar. You might remember him as the "Cowboy Up!" guy from the 2004 World Series Champion Boston Red Sox, also known as The Idiots. Millar was seated right behind Jerry The King and he was standing up with his son in his hands (I'm not sure if anyone else noticed him or WWE acknowledged him at any point.)
While Cena and Lawler were making fun of Vickie, Millar had a bit of a raised eye brow, awkward look on his face kind of like "I thought Cena was suppose to be the good guy, not some bully."

The second face I noticed, was CM Punk's. He also seemed to have an issue about what was being said and I think he said something like "What the heck is going on" during it, but you'd have to expect the same from Punk's character anyway just because he doesn't like Cena.

The thing I find interesting is Punk has been finding issue with Cena's moral flaws as of late and I think it will be interesting to see, how far WWE goes with it. What I mean by this is Punk found fault with Cena when he was fired for jumping the guardrail and attacking the wrestlers saying that he should be arrested. Punk also talked about how Cena brutally attacked Barrett and when leaving Raw last night made a comment about Cena's vicious nature.

So what I'm wondering is, will WWE allow Punk to come out, keep the face heat he's built up, and call Cena what we all know he is ....

A PHONEY!

It seems like a storyline like this would set the foundation for Cena's heel turn, it doesn't seem very likely, but I'm interested to see what happens next.

And as for Cena being a phoney, that's what he is. That's why the kids, women like him and the men see through his bullshit. He's wrestling's version of Alex Rodriguez.

Do you think Sting or a Bret Hart(baby face) would ever come out and take joy in making fat jokes about a 40 something yr old widower? Or attack his opponents like Cena does. Check out this vid from February of a match between Cena and DiBiase. Cena was pissed about something Batista did and came out and took it out on Ted DiBiase who'd done nothing too him at the time (It probably had something to do with Marine 2, Cena's a jealous bastard.)

[YOUTUBE]Z23rSpCC5IY[/YOUTUBE]

I don't think people dislike Cena because he's too goody goody, it's because he's a phoney. That's why they want a heel turn so badly, their tired of the facade. Cena's not going anywhere and he won't be pushed down to the midcard,(what I mean by that is that he's always going to get a good percentage of TV time) so a heel turn is the only thing you can look forward too.

The problem last night with the Vickie bashing wasn't so much about Vickie, but the message it sends to kids. If John Cena makes fat jokes, or any jokes about appearance such as Sheamus' skin tone and red heads, then it must be alright for me to do it and I'll do it because people think it's funny.

I'm hoping CM Punk some how remains face through all of this, I believe if that were the case then it could be an epic storyline, but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. The odd thing about WWE is Cole is a huge Miz mark and apparently he is close with Cena as well (Cena hugged him when he was fired.) Would be nice to see some original, intertwined- keep you guessing, well-written storylines come back to the WWE.

But as of now, I have no idea what direction that there going in and what is on purpose and what is coincidental. And that's to be expected from a company led by a Vince McMahon, a wrestling promoter version of Roman Polanski and his son-in-law Triple H who thinks of rotting corpses as slam pigs (Katie Vick.)


BillLesnar seemed to have completely missed the point on Doctors post,from reading reports the fued will end with a match at Mania
 
Aright, I'm gonna respond too The good Doctor here's post, because it's pretty much the most important topic in WWE, at the moment.

While I watched RAW last night, as Cena and Jerry Lawler went tit-for-tat verbally abusing Vickie Guerrerro about her weight (Vickie's so fat ... "She wakes up in sections," "Her bathtub has stretch marks," "Her baby pictures had to be taken by satellite.") I noticed two faces.

The first was that of retired professional baseball player, Kevin Millar. You might remember him as the "Cowboy Up!" guy from the 2004 World Series Champion Boston Red Sox, also known as The Idiots. Millar was seated right behind Jerry The King and he was standing up with his son in his hands (I'm not sure if anyone else noticed him or WWE acknowledged him at any point.)
While Cena and Lawler were making fun of Vickie, Millar had a bit of a raised eye brow, awkward look on his face kind of like "I thought Cena was suppose to be the good guy, not some bully."

The second face I noticed, was CM Punk's. He also seemed to have an issue about what was being said and I think he said something like "What the heck is going on" during it, but you'd have to expect the same from Punk's character anyway just because he doesn't like Cena.

The thing I find interesting is Punk has been finding issue with Cena's moral flaws as of late and I think it will be interesting to see, how far WWE goes with it. What I mean by this is Punk found fault with Cena when he was fired for jumping the guardrail and attacking the wrestlers saying that he should be arrested. Punk also talked about how Cena brutally attacked Barrett and when leaving Raw last night made a comment about Cena's vicious nature.

So what I'm wondering is, will WWE allow Punk to come out, keep the face heat he's built up, and call Cena what we all know he is ....

A PHONEY!

It seems like a storyline like this would set the foundation for Cena's heel turn, it doesn't seem very likely, but I'm interested to see what happens next.

And as for Cena being a phoney, that's what he is. That's why the kids, women like him and the men see through his bullshit. He's wrestling's version of Alex Rodriguez.

Do you think Sting or a Bret Hart(baby face) would ever come out and take joy in making fat jokes about a 40 something yr old widower? Or attack his opponents like Cena does. Check out this vid from February of a match between Cena and DiBiase. Cena was pissed about something Batista did and came out and took it out on Ted DiBiase who'd done nothing too him at the time (It probably had something to do with Marine 2, Cena's a jealous bastard.)

[YOUTUBE]Z23rSpCC5IY[/YOUTUBE]

I don't think people dislike Cena because he's too goody goody, it's because he's a phoney. That's why they want a heel turn so badly, their tired of the facade. Cena's not going anywhere and he won't be pushed down to the midcard,(what I mean by that is that he's always going to get a good percentage of TV time) so a heel turn is the only thing you can look forward too.

The problem last night with the Vickie bashing wasn't so much about Vickie, but the message it sends to kids. If John Cena makes fat jokes, or any jokes about appearance such as Sheamus' skin tone and red heads, then it must be alright for me to do it and I'll do it because people think it's funny.

I'm hoping CM Punk some how remains face through all of this, I believe if that were the case then it could be an epic storyline, but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. The odd thing about WWE is Cole is a huge Miz mark and apparently he is close with Cena as well (Cena hugged him when he was fired.) Would be nice to see some original, intertwined- keep you guessing, well-written storylines come back to the WWE.

But as of now, I have no idea what direction that there going in and what is on purpose and what is coincidental. And that's to be expected from a company led by a Vince McMahon, a wrestling promoter version of Roman Polanski and his son-in-law Triple H who thinks of rotting corpses as slam pigs (Katie Vick.)

Your a fucking dumbass bro. Don't know why they would let you back but oh well. I'm out!

BTW, its called kayfabe ********!
 
Jenks is a fucking tool! Ban his ass like your going to ban me in 5 seconds!
 
WZ is stupid to let him back! Everyone please join Wrestling Clique before its too late!
 
Jenks is a fucking tool! Ban his ass like your going to ban me in 5 seconds!

Jenks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
 
well Bill lesnar thinks what Jenks said is completely on the money. Bill lesnar still thinks Vince isnt going to risk losing Merc over a Cena heel turn. At the end of the day.Vickie is a heel and everyone hates her, Cena ripping on her with another huge face Lawler is what the kids want. Cena embarrssing her because shes a huge heel and acts like a bitch every segement shes on. In Vinces world this isthe classic case of the face getting one over the heels. in 2006 Dx were ripping on Mcmahon like crazy,for those exact reasons. Sending the Sprit Squad over to nowhere wasnt a face like action...or was it. Thats what Bill lesnar is trying to get at. Although the action was heel like, becuaseits cean and vickie is well vickie, the action was facel ike,Bill lesnar can expand on this if needed.

the storyline will prob play out as Jenks explained,but Cean will stay face and punk heel the whole way through, those things will onlu change if Vince is willing to run the huge risk, and Bill lesnar doesnt think he will. Its Business
 

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