All Future Wrestlemania Discussion (Matches, Gimmicks, Angles.... KEEP IT IN HERE!)

[LittleJimmy]

CM Punk just posted this on his twitter page...

@steveaustinBSR 29, son.

It is now my thinking that CM Punk vs SCSA is the WM 29 main event that will be announced soon after WM 28 to get the year long build.

 

[XXJJ]

Cena vs Undertaker
Orton vs Lesnar
Punk vs Austin

Triple main event...3 full time guys would all have high profile matches against the part-timers. I would think that would be bigger than WM 28.

 

[The Eighties]

Earlier today Justin Labar posted an article claiming the plan is for HBK vs Triple H to happen at WrestleMania 29, but I can't see HBK coming out of retirement and he said it was a lie on twitter.

Then there's this from after Raw.

 

[rge2010]

Justin Labar talking utter crap once again with his 'exclusives'. HBK has shot down his WM29 rumors already.

"Bogus!! False!! Lie!! Completely made up!! Too much?," he wrote in response to a user comment reading: "Any comment to the WM 29 hype match? You vs HHH?"

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Justin Labar talking utter crap once again with his 'exclusives'. HBK has shot down his WM29 rumors already.

"Bogus!! False!! Lie!! Completely made up!! Too much?," he wrote in response to a user comment reading: "Any comment to the WM 29 hype match? You vs HHH?"

That right there is the written definition of teasing or sarcasm. Shawn Michaels coming back this year to referee may not have been such a random thing. And it isn't like it wouldn't make sense with the whole, "He's better than you" blah blah bullshit going on within the Taker/HHH/HBK angle.

 

[bigjoe113]

CM Punk vs HHH (c) WWE Title
HHH is corporate now and tells Punk his shoot style antics are bad for business. Punk says screw you. HHH screws Punk out of the title and becomes champion. CM Punk wins the Rumble and challenges HHH.

Cena vs Taker For The Streak
Cena says after losing or beating Rock at WM there's one man to beat @ WM to stamp his legacy as the greatest and that's Taker.

Brock Lesnar vs The Rock (Clash of the Titans)
The Rock wins @ Survivor Series. Afterwards Rock says he's beaten them all and he thinks it's time to say goodbye. Then Brock returns and says you've never beaten me. They Build it like a MMA bout where two heavyweights will collide @ WM.

Randy Orton (The Viper) vs Stone Cold (The Rattle Snake)
This can be built as the two most unpredictable, uncaring, ruthless guys our business has ever seen go at it!

ADR (c) vs Daniel Bryan vs Christian WHC
Christian loses the belt @ Rumble to ADR. They have a rematch @ EC where ADR gets intentionally DQ'd. Bryan wins No.1 Contendership in EC. So the GM makes it ADR (c) vs Daniel Bryan vs Christian.

Dolph Ziggler vs Mick Foley Street Fight (Foley's Last Match)
Foley says he has sleepless nights bcuz he wants his kids and family to witness him stealing the show one last time in his backyard NY/NJ @ WM. Ziggler says he's tired of all these vets trying to steal his spotlight so he will steal the show by ending Foley's career FOR GOOD!

P.S. IF SOME RUMORS ARE TRUE THEN HERE IS MY ALT. CARD
CM Punk vs Stone Cold (Who is the Baddest S.O.B.)
HHH vs HBK (Who is Better???)
Randy Orton vs The Rock (3rd Generation vs 3rd Generation)
Cena vs Ziggler for WWE Title
Taker vs Lesnar for The Streak
Daniel Bryan vs Christian for WHC
Jericho vs Foley (Retirement Match)

 

[rge2010]

CM Punk vs HHH (c) WWE Title
HHH is corporate now and tells Punk his shoot style antics are bad for business. Punk says screw you. HHH screws Punk out of the title and becomes champion. CM Punk wins the Rumble and challenges HHH.

Cena vs Taker For The Streak
Cena says after losing or beating Rock at WM there's one man to beat @ WM to stamp his legacy as the greatest and that's Taker.

Brock Lesnar vs The Rock (Clash of the Titans)
The Rock wins @ Survivor Series. Afterwards Rock says he's beaten them all and he thinks it's time to say goodbye. Then Brock returns and says you've never beaten me. They Build it like a MMA bout where two heavyweights will collide @ WM.

Randy Orton (The Viper) vs Stone Cold (The Rattle Snake)
This can be built as the two most unpredictable, uncaring, ruthless guys our business has ever seen go at it!

ADR (c) vs Daniel Bryan vs Christian WHC
Christian loses the belt @ Rumble to ADR. They have a rematch @ EC where ADR gets intentionally DQ'd. Bryan wins No.1 Contendership in EC. So the GM makes it ADR (c) vs Daniel Bryan vs Christian.

Dolph Ziggler vs Mick Foley Street Fight (Foley's Last Match)
Foley says he has sleepless nights bcuz he wants his kids and family to witness him stealing the show one last time in his backyard NY/NJ @ WM. Ziggler says he's tired of all these vets trying to steal his spotlight so he will steal the show by ending Foley's career FOR GOOD!

P.S. IF SOME RUMORS ARE TRUE THEN HERE IS MY ALT. CARD
CM Punk vs Stone Cold (Who is the Baddest S.O.B.)
HHH vs HBK (Who is Better???)
Randy Orton vs The Rock (3rd Generation vs 3rd Generation)
Cena vs Ziggler for WWE Title
Taker vs Lesnar for The Streak
Daniel Bryan vs Christian for WHC
Jericho vs Foley (Retirement Match)

I very much doubt WWE would ever put all their eggs in one basket like that. There are some marquee matches there, but to ahve them all on a card is very bad business. WWE are smarter than that and would surely spread them out to Summerslam or the following Wrestlemania. We can all dream, and your card is what dreams are made of but

 

[lilnev2009]

I dont know what the wwe brass is thinking but they have to believe that the Undertaker maybe has one year left in him. He really only works 4 times a year anyway so what do you do next year? Cena? That is the most likely opponent but I don't believe the world would dare dream of Cena being the guy who ended the streak so idk how much WWE would like to go down that road. Jericho? Am I the only one who thinks that Jericho and the Big show should be a little ticked off about this whole end of an era thing when they were there also? but Jericho is like the undertaker in that they aren't around enough for it to feel as special as it would be maybe 4 or 5 years ago. HBK? Been there twice and he's retired. HHH? 3 times is good enough for me. Big show? Seen that movie already as well. Wade Barrett? If they would have done it when Barrett attacked undertaker during the whole Kane thing then ok. now its too late. CM Punk? Now I think that if they go with someone on the roster then this is the guy to go with. The match wouldn't need for either of them to have the title and the two would have a really good match. But will CM Punk be as "hot" now in the next year? I doubt it. Brock Lesnar? He and WWE seem to be on good terms and his stance has soften on getting back in the squared circle. I would love to see this after their little run in but I don't think Undertaker(the gimmick) would do this match justice and if the Undertaker(the person not the gimmick) showed up then i think this match would be epic but do people really care that much if Brock Lesnar was to come back? He wouldn't have the same impact as the rock has had since he has returned. Which gets to the guy I think should be the one to face the undertaker for the last time. The ROCK. Two guys who have a history but have never done it on the wrestlemania stage. Two guys who would be in their last wrestlemanias and could shut it down. Now can you have the Rock ending the streak? Yes because it is believable just as it was believable for HBK and HHH to do it because they have faced Taker before and have pinned him 1-2-3. The fans would be split but you wouldn't need to turn either of them because you love one or you love the other but you don't hate either. Have the rock come out the night after wrestlemania to address the crowd and then you hear the gong go off. Taker comes down and says he has one more immortal to beat at wrestlemania and he's looking at him. A guy who has been there from day one with taker and if Rock has one last match in him then he needs to prove to the world that he can beat the undertaker on the biggest stage of them all. The build for that would not be as big of a mainstream draw as Cena and Rock but for the fans who tune in on a weekly basis, this would be bigger because you know what it means. This would really be an end of an era and this is how it should end since all of the others would be all gone including HHH.

 

[closet_fan]

Looks like Punk and Austin are planting the seeds for a possible showdown for WM29.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/252089-cm-punk-and-steve-austin-tease-a-wrestlemania-29-match

I don't want the Rock in yet another year-long feud with anyone. I know there was news that Lesnar wants to come back. And while I think he and Undertaker would be a good match, Punk and Austin would get more mainstream hype.

 

[Beastmode 24]

2 matches i see happening
1) Taker (if he doesnt retire) vs brock lesnar
2) CM Punk vs Steve Austin

I could see both of these happening. Taker could very well be the match that lesnar wants to come back for.

 

[BigRedMachine88]

As ever at this time of year, as the anticipation for the biggest show in professional wrestling rises and rises, i've been pouring over old wrestlemania dvd's and reliving all my former Mania memories. And this got me thinking... is all the hype too much?

For the WWE, the game begins and ends with Wrestlemania, and the build up to the grand-daddy of them all is always huge. But with that comes a problem. However big the hype is, the event has to match it. For Wrestlemania, delivering a good show is not enough. It has to be great from start to finish. It has to be legendary in every sense of the word.

Take for example wrestlemania 19. For me now it's one of my favorites to watch again, but i remember at the time not being so impressed. So if I wasn't completely happy with a mania that was great, what hope is there? Problem is they hype it up so much that i expect too much.

What do you think?

 

[Paralyzer Z]

Problem is they hype it up so much that i expect too much.

That right there is the answer to your own question. They hype it up so much because they want you to buy it. Once they have your purchase the mission is completed. WWE is a business plain and simple the more they lure people in to buy Wrestlemania through hype or build the more money they make and the cycle goes on and on.

Now in terms of can we ever be satisfied? Sure we can and we have already, people just don't know it. If you say buy a PPV then you were satisfied with the build and hype, not only that but it shows that you based off the quality of the product's past you are content enough with it to buy it again. People will go on and on about disappointing PPVs when they let their expectations get ahead of them. It happened with me when I ordered Wrestlemania 26, I thought it sucked at first but looking back it wasn't nearly as bad as I initially thought it was.

If you wan't to be satisfied don't let your expectations get the best of you.

 

[legendkiller1979]

No we can't. Wrestlemania is supposed to be the biggest and best show of the year.
The biggest problem is that there isn't anything that could happen at 'mania that we haven't already seen. obviously Rock/Cena is an exception but there isn't anything left to look forward to. Was anyone really looking forward to the Miz defending the title against Cena last year? it had been done quite a few times with the Miz getting beaten nearly everytime. There was nothing to look forward to in the match.

I have always thought that the Monday night wars ruined wrestling. Every week was like a pay per view. This left both companies no where to go. If you have a wrestlemania caliber match on Raw, what do you put on for 'mania? It was like every week was christmas. So come time for christmas, we were disappointed when we didn't get a bigger and better gift.

The only match that's left that has any intrigue for me would be John Cena vs The Undertaker at 'mania. Vince doesn't want the streak to end but Cena is the face of the company. Who would win? But that's not going to happen.

Back in the "jobber" days, pay per views were special because we didn't get the great matches every week. That's when wrestlemania was truly special.

 

[MCMG]

No we can't but that is natural. With most things in life it is easy to see how to improve something if we had the time again.

For every Wrestlemania, there can easily be at least one match which could be changed for the better. Even swapping two wrestlers from different matches could make the night better and we may look back on the night thinking "what if".

 

[mrpops]

We can be satisfied. WWE has achieved great wrestlemanias(mainly 17 and 19) that from top to bottom were solid great shows with great highlights.

Problem with the vast majority of wrestlemanias is that there is too many bad matches with bad wrestlers no one wants to watch. This years wrestlemania will be decent but not great. Were getting 3 great matches, one average match(kane/orton)...and 4 bad ones.

Womens match is snore fest, tag team match features loser wrestlers, cody rhodes and big show will stink the place up and whatever the other match is will suck too. EDIT: LOL, the other match is no name sheamus vs no name daniel bryan....another stinker of a match.

 

[Tyler44]

The thing is, when you look back at the old matches, you just have a sense of remembrance and reminiscent, and it brings you back. Humans are subjected to always praise the past and refer to them as "the good old days".

But honestly, how the hell can anybody not be satisfied going into this Wrestlemania? The Rock and Cena is a huge match. I'd be in awe if somebody could give me true reasons why they'd not want to see this. The Undertaker vs. HHH, for a third time yes, but, a hell in a cell with HBK involved. That's refreshing. That's exciting. Then, the biggest WWE star modeling in the past year CM Punk is facing Jericho, an opponent identical to Punk. They will put on a god damn hell of a show, and we'll all love it.

These three matches bring me back to when WWE ppv's were exciting and led me anxious to wanting to see them. So thus far in the Mania' cycle, the hype and matches look VERY promising. It all comes down to the actual event. We won't be angry, we'll be satisfied.

 

[dwith]

Myself, I feel that we as fan's have always expected too much from wrestling because VINCE alway's expects more, and eventually you haven't got more.

When the scenerio's for talents in top tier main events like wrestlemania are afoot their isn't enough great talent to care about that many of the matches, and we get disappointed. That's why I believe we have THE ROCK making appearances at main events and celebrities.
Vince is trying to fill wrestling voids with celebrity personalities to make us forget for a moment that he doesn't have enough great talent to make a show of complete matches in weekly television or ppv. Just my opinion.

 

[TheChampionOfTheWorld]

Being satisfied is a point of view... what I think is right and what you think is right could be completely different.

This is the first Mania since 22 where I think John Cena is going to lose. I didn't think Triple H would put Cena over, looking back on it Triple H didn't need the win so it made sense to put Cena over. The fact that you don't know what the outcome is going to be makes in interesting.

 

[Steve0904]

It all comes down to expectations. If your expectations are sky high they're near impossible to meet anyway. If your expectations are low then you are easily happy with something, but there's the kicker. If your expectations are low you're less likely to buy a PPV or anything really, so WWE will hype it to the moon and use the namepower of big stars at the biggest PPV of the year to get you to buy it and then there job is done as someone else said. You'll keep buying it because it's WM and more than that there are nostly new matches and mostly new storylines every year.

 

[812rohit]

i think we can be satisfied because instead of writing a whole page i will go by match
The Rock vs John Cena
I am very excited to see that because well they had been insulting each other for so long even at the hall of fame so we will get to see the old Rock vs the idiototic John Cena and finally see Cena lose at wm by himself
CM Punk vs Y2J
Well when i first heard y2j was back i was amazed at that time my favourite wrestler was cm punk but instanly changed to y2j when he came back the 2 men have equal strentgh to make it exciting
Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus
1 Word.......STUPID
Undertaker vs HHH with special ref HBK
Awesome we can finally see either HBK get his revenge on Undertaker for wm 26 or HBK screw HHH either way will be awesome cant wait to see it
Team Teddy vs Team Johny
Average.It could have been a elimation match to make it better and i heard rey rey was to return before wm so if so wwe could have let mysterio be in instead of booker t
Kelly Kelly and Maria Menuos vs Eve and Beth Phoinix
..........Bathroom break
Big Show vs Cody Rhodes
Sqaush match
so overall pretty good wrestlemania i would give the card a 7 out of 10

 

[Shotaro]

I've got to admit I'm in the middle about mania right now, I think the event itself should be good, but a lot of the build up has, for me, been a bit unspectacular. You had two of the best guys on the mic in Punk and Y2J and had them exchange words directly once? Maybe twice? At a maximum. Meanwhile you had the far too long promos for Rock/Cena and HHH/Taker. It kinda makes me worried about the future if, even in the build up, the WWE title match is the #3 priority. I understand WHY it is, but I don't like it.

As for the card itself, it should be really good. There are no matches (save the divas match) that I aren't at least interested in watching, and they've done a good job of avoiding any direct confrontation between opponents in a match. They've not given away any matches on TV, I hope it will be good, but it's wrestlemania, everyone brings their A-game and given the talent on display the only thing anyone will be able to moan about is the finishes or the outcomes.

 

[jokernaut]

the best thing to do is try and not get your hopes up at all. very difficult though of course if the card looks awesome like this years does. i dont buy in to wwe saying this is the biggest wrestlemania ever etc. you really have to make your own hype if that makes sense. get your own expectations and see if it delivers because if you buy in to the wwe's, most of the time you are going to be a little disappointed because like ive seen a lot of people say, wwe will always over hype wrestlemania so we will all buy it.

 

[Truly Phenomenonal]

I agree with you with the build-up being sub-par, when RAW went off the air on Monday, I felt a bit cheated, I thought I was going to get more, especially from Rock/Cena and Jericho/Punk, but I didn't... Instead I got the same stuff that I was getting. Once again Jericho didn't even appear on the show, and continued to degrade Punk's family, and Rock/Cena continued with the same stuff they've been doing for almost a year now! It just seemed lackluster. Another thing... IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH A LITTLE VIOLENCE? I MEAN IT IS THE WWE FOR HEAVEN SAKE.. We haven't seen major violence in any major feud, and I really wanted to see some, so I was disappointed to say the least when I didn't get any.

Now, that being said I'm still looking forward to WrestleMania, the card is the strongest one in awhile, perhaps the strongest one since WrestleMania 19 if not stronger... the matches themselves should be great, I mean I think WWE knows they've put way too much into Rock/Cena for it to bomb, I expect it to be like the Cena/Punk match from Money in the Bank last year... And of course Hell in a Cell matches are never all that bad, even though the past 5 or 6 have been a bit disappointed, this is another match that just has too much going into it for it to bomb. Jericho/Punk should put on a classic and Sheamus/Bryan can also be quite good.

 

[TheHeartbreakPunk]

I have to agree with truly phenomenonal, the buildup would have been better if there was some true action. I honestly think the best built up match has been big show vs. cody rhodes. We have actually seen some beatdowns, good promos, and cody coming out on top which the fans wouldnt expect with big show. Though i think they did a good job with the hhh/undertaker, i think they should have had the promo they did last week on the week before wrestlemania, so they would have had it hanging in the air more, now its sort of forgettable seeing as none of them were on the raw before wmania

 

[Azane]

Ya, WWE hypes matches to the extreme, it gets you excited to actually see the show, and it sells, you'll be left wanting more and disappointed, because honestly, the level of hype for a match like Rock Cena, pretty much wouldn't be hit even if the Rock wasn't just a sellout movie star, and an actual wrestler.