All Future Wrestlemania Discussion (Matches, Gimmicks, Angles.... KEEP IT IN HERE!)

[Chicago1989]

I think this whole thing about Brock Lesnar being on WWE '12 is really blowing out of proportion, keeping people buzzing for no reason. Just because he was mentioned on TV recently and is being included as a bonus character in the WWE game, doesn't mean that he'll be making this HUGE comeback.

Alot of people here like to keep making a big deal out something small. This whole story has been the talk of the wrestling world these days, only because there's nothing else to talk about. The title of this thread is not even valid.

I don't fall for any of this fantasy stuff. I highly doubt Brock Lesnar would return to the WWE, especially since he's contracted to the UFC.

 

[Krossbreed]

If lesnar is to be a part of wrestlemania i wouldnt want him in a taker match...he shouldnt end the streak, he's just passing by of anything its a prize fight. I would book Undertaker verses Sheamus, taker wins then have Brock in a rivlary with hhh then have brock go over. It could be a good storyline that brock abandoned wwe and he is not really a wrestler just an opportunist. HHH can then claim he is real wrestling and he would never leave wwe high and dry. But i also dont think brock should go back to wwe until his ufc career cools down.

 

[dansaun77]

Brock Lesnar is a part of WWE 12, he doesnt need a release for this as it has already happened. Odd thread, thought it must have been a very old thread from when Taker went into business for himself by challenging Lesnar after his fight at UFC. Lesnar wont be returning to WWE anytime soon, he has a No 1 contenders match in December and would be fighting for the UFC Heavyweight Title should he win that match. sometime in April.

 

[BigThunder]

There really is no one who can credibly challenge the streak in wrestling today, at least, not without running some sort of Undertaker injury angle to make him look mortal.

Lesnar and Sting are the only two names who'd be credible to casual fans, and only Lesnar to non-fans.

 

[lowandmighty]

Sting to end the steak? thats ridiculous he's never even been in WWE and he wouldn't realistically beat the undertaker anyway.

I think lesnar could do it but he'd have to stay in wrestling afterward and he wouldn't so it can't be lesnar. It has to be someone new who's either a top heel or a major face but better a face than a heel.

Seamus is a good pick I think cause he's got an attitude of not being scared of anyone and fighting till the end. He's young and fresh and the accomplishment of defeating the undertaker at wrestlemania would be a push greater than any belt. He's not American though and there lies the 1 problem with it because wwe is most popular in usa and we don't want to embarrass the nation.

Jack swagger perhaps as a heel could work, fans would never hear the end of it from him and that could keep him at the top for a while. Heels accomplishments are usually nullified pretty quick though and that makes it a problem. For example we've all heard of Ric Flair's 16 world title reigns right? so how many times did he lose it then? see what I mean.

Who could? I think someone we haven't seen yet. cm punk is a good face but physically too small along with other hopefull's like cody rhodes. Randy Orton is big enough but he's had his chance.

How many wins is the undertaker up to? perhaps by the time he's ready for his 21'st win there will be a new American guy who's popular, a face, over 6'4, around 300lbs and good on the mic and in the ring. lets just hope.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

lesnar may come back after his UFC career is over and with his illness I wouldn't be surprised if it's sooner than later, and the only reason he may come back to WWE occasionally is because of the article WZ posted yesterday saying Vince is more open to letting guys come in for short term deals. As for him ending the streak, unless him and taker are really butt buddies and not actual enemies I don't see that happening. Plus it's probably not worth it unless you build mania around it and are only concerned with Mania's buyrate. There is no long term gain to brock ending the streak since he'll never be a full time wrestler... even if he wanted to he can't do it.. he's missed fights MONTHS out in UFC he'd never be able to handle a E schedule again.

 

[SD619]

Lesnar said that he will join the WWE is the situation is right. Translation: If he is paid more than Cena and HHH combined.

Anyway, I doubt that he will join the WWE at this point of his career considering that he is quite on a roll in UFC. As far as ending the streak, a outside man coming in and breaking it would be a huge slap for all the WWE guys.
Also, the streak should NOT be broken.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

Sting makes sense ... I mean not to end the streak but the last one who will try to end it.

I mean Sting would be crazy not to jump on the idea of having a one match deal with The Undertaker at WM. Even if Sting looses (which he probably will) if this is Taker's last match also ... it would cement a milestone for Sting and something people will talk about for years to come.

The other option would be for him to stay in TNA and continus his Heath Ledge/Joker gimmick and continuing to making a fool out of himself.

 

[The Ace of Knaves]

Sting makes sense ... I mean not to end the streak but the last one who will try to end it.

I mean Sting would be crazy not to jump on the idea of having a one match deal with The Undertaker at WM. Even if Sting looses (which he probably will) if this is Taker's last match also ... it would cement a milestone for Sting and something people will talk about for years to come.

The other option would be for him to stay in TNA and continus his Heath Ledge/Joker gimmick and continuing to making a fool out of himself.

He refused WWE's offer for a WM 27 match this year against Undertaker and chose to fight Jeff Hardy in a 30 seconds match in what is currently known as the worst match in 21st century sports entertainment.

Sting already is insane.

 

[Krossbreed]

There really is no one who can credibly challenge the streak in wrestling today, at least, not without running some sort of Undertaker injury angle to make him look mortal.

Lesnar and Sting are the only two names who'd be credible to casual fans, and only Lesnar to non-fans.

An injury angle would definately be different...even having taker doubt his ability to keep going teasing his own retirement then he goes over. I dont see it as brick if it isnt sheamus then it could be a heel chris jericho.

 

[walsallbathroomfitter]

I think everyone is taking this too far. I don't ever see the streak ending. When the undertaker finally retires and has been inducted into HOF the streak will be a big talking point every year for Wrestlemania week. You will probably find although maybe not fully performing every year he will still have some sort of cameo storyline at least for a few years after he retires.

WWE will milk it as much as possible. DVDs unbeaten streak + other merchandise.

Brock had a decent first run with WWE, he would slot in nicley if he come back but pointless to even challenge the streak.

Taker has probably 2 manias left, one will defo be against Kane and i feel sheamus would be a good match for a extra notch. I also see trips wanting another shot down the line.

Coming up to retiring he may even break kayfabe to a certain point and talk about going out with a unbeatable streak

 

[rge2010]

TMZ broke the news last night that Brock Lesnar was seeking release so he could return to the WWE so he could be a part of the WWE 12 video game.

However, we all know there's some legit heat between Taker & Lesnar.

Thoughts?

Personally I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on both Taker & Lesnar to have a match, probably at Wrestlemania. And with the legit heat between to the two, who's going to take the fall in that match?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/ca...C-star-agrees-to-new-deal-with?urn=mma-wp8147

Fabricating stories once again? Where does the article cite Brock is seeking release to rejoin WWE? Nowhere.

Lesnar vs Taker wont happen IMO. Because Brock will still be in UFC until Taker retires, however, if he loses to Overeem that could change pretty quickly. If Brock comes back for a 1 off Mania match will probably job to Cena.

Brocks first run was great. He was a monster who could put on a great match. The IWC (ROH rats) hate him because he left WWE and went to do something else. This is why they ahve heat on The Rock....it saddens me Jericho is never in the firing line.

 

[BK Styles]

He refused WWE's offer for a WM 27 match this year against Undertaker and chose to fight Jeff Hardy in a 30 seconds match in what is currently known as the worst match in 21st century sports entertainment.

Sting already is insane.

...DUDE. Keep to the topic on hand. And for the record, I remember Sting saying that his people and WWE's people were never in negotiation. He refused jack shit.

Now, onto the topic.

The only thing even remotely close to this that I've read was on this page, where lesnar said if the circumstances were right for him, his family and WWE/UFC, then he would consider a ring return, but for now he's UFC and that's where he remains.

Brock shouldn't break the Streak. no-one should. Taker's ring work has maintained at a high level for one reason alone; he now wrestles a maximum of 3 or 4 matches a year. He is fragile. For this reason, his last match should be this WM, and he should go out on a high.

Could the streak survive a loss in terms of its legacy? Sure it could. But it would have to be the right person ending it. Brock is not the right person. As far as I can see, only one person could end it......and he's had two shots. Let me give you an example; if any other big WWE name (Cena, HHH, Orton, HBK) had the streak, who would you have end it. Easy. Undertaker. There is no-one in the WWE atm who can match up to taker's level of expectation. Brock Lesnar is NOT on that level.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

Taker was like Brocks mentor back in the days.. What legit heat was this?? I don't think he'll return, they're jst building hype for the game. And let's just say he does take on the streak? No way he should be the one to end it..

 

[Marionerro]

They maybe will be match Taker vs. Lesnar but there is no way,and I mean NO WAY he'll end "the streak"...Only one who can end "the streak" is....O yea,that's right,NO ONE! And by the way I don't think it will be Lesnar vs. Taker at WM 28...

 

[mr_dna]

I Don't think its happening as of yet, But i can see Brock returning to WWE if he loses his next fight and his momentum in UFC.

Especially with Vince more open to part time wrestlers now .

As for the streak i still think there would only be 1 Person who Vince would even consider letting end it and that's golden balls him self Cena .

 

[itbewilly]

Lesner is confirmed for WWE 12 and Dana White has released a statement on it in favor of it so tell me again why anything TMZ says about Brock wanting out of his contract is even thought to be truthful in any way?

TMZ is a shitty Tabloid news paper. They get most of their money off spreading untrue rumors about various celebs and/or exploiting recently deceased celebs(like Amy Winehouse) who they constantly bashed leading up to her death then tried to "show respect" after the fact.

Long story short..TMZ is garbage and i would believe what i read on Wikipedia before i would anything posted on it.

 

[rocksaviour]

I wouldn't want Lesnar to come back and end the streak. No one at this point should end the streak, Taker should get to 20-0 and then retire the next night. He easily could be involved in the WWE the next Mania season and be put in the HOF and then show up on the night and maybe avenge Kane (for beating him in late 2010) in a post match angle or something.

Lesnar said if everything worked out with all involved then he may return. I think he should return he owes the WWE something even if its just a run of 2-3 years working with the likes of Orton, HHH and a bigger star in Cena compared to before. A Lesnar WWE run makes sense for a few people but not anything to do with ending the Undertaker's streak.

 

[Larry]

I think it's safe to assume that Brock is not leaving UFC, and he will not be returning to the WWE. In the case that he did leave UFC for WWE, he would not be breaking the streak. With that in mind, Brock Lesnar is not going to come back to the WWE to lose to the Undertaker at WM either. I'd say the situation is as simple as that.

 

[wushady]

TMZ broke the news last night that Brock Lesnar was seeking release so he could return to the WWE so he could be a part of the WWE 12 video game.

However, we all know there's some legit heat between Taker & Lesnar.

Thoughts?

Personally I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on both Taker & Lesnar to have a match, probably at Wrestlemania. And with the legit heat between to the two, who's going to take the fall in that match?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/ca...C-star-agrees-to-new-deal-with?urn=mma-wp8147

That article you linked says nothing about him getting his UFC release to return to WWE. Allowing him to be a part of the video game is a smart business move by Dana White, it's free promotion nothing more. In the article he did for ESPN.COM http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/Brock_Lesnar_To_Wrestle_One_More_Match_For_WW.php. Lesnar says he would do one more match under the right circumstances, but he's an Ultimate Fighter first and foremost.

If he did face Undertaker at Wrestlemania, there's no way in hell he would end the streak. It would be great for business to have him appear. With all the press it would receive. However it would be even worse for business to have him win. It would be a slap in the face to everyone that has lost to him to keep the streak alive, to everyone in the WWE that hasn't up and quite, and most importantly to Undertaker.

Most people in the IWC get the fact that the streak is a huge part of Undertakers legacy. Yet some still think Vince will say it's been a great run but now your going to retire losing the streak. It's the one thing that sets him apart from the rest of the legends. Anyone can be a multiple time champion these days, but it's impossible for any of the current top stars to go undefeated at Wrestlemania. Much less 20-0 assuming he can wrestle this year even 19-0 will never happen.

It's Vince's way of saying thank you to him. For all he's done in the WWE and for never leaving during the companies low points. When WCW was offering way more money to jump ship he stayed loyal to WWE. It amazes me that some believe that Lesnar of all people would end the streak. They even had him lose to Goldberg whom wasn't very popular with WWE management on his way out. Yet 8 years later they think all is forgotten and Lesnar will be brought back for one match. To beat and end the legacy of the one guy that's stuck with the WWE and has been a locker room leader for over twenty years.

 

[Krobra]

If you look at the current roster, who is able to face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 28 that isn't already involved in a match? John Cena? Nope, he's in a match with The Rock. CM Punk? WWE is making plans for him. Triple H for the third time? Not likely. Sheamus? Will likely be wrestling for the World Heavyweight Title.

Personally, I think Mick Foley should be the one to fight Taker this year. Think about it. Why not? In the past, Taker and Foley had the best feuds and had memorable matches. Punch for punch, Foley took it all and dished back his own to Taker. While Foley isn't in the best of shape, I believe that he could have one last match with Taker. Will it be on the level of HBK vs. Taker? No, I don't think that it could. Maybe a Hell in a Cell match at Wrestlemania 28 between the two and make it their last match would be a proper send off for both. When Foley returns, have him in a GM position or something until Taker comes back.

 

[conrad405]

undertaker is 19-0 next year will be his last WM last match i think he will retire at 20-0 there building sheamus up so i think he might face taker

UNDERTAKER VS SHEAMUS AT WM 28

 

[Joup7]

I know a rematch of Triple H v. Undertaker was rumored on and off since their last bout. I think i'd put my money on that. Personally, I'd like to see Cody Rhodes face Undertaker (not for the title, they don't need that in that match). They probably won't let Undertaker lose at Wrestlemania, but at this point, if anybody is going to, I would say Cody. It should be somebody young who would benefit greatly from the push. We all agree on that. Right now, I think that rising star is Cody.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I could see Undertaker being added to the Rock vs. Cena match at this year’s WrestleMania, making it a Triple Threat Undertaker Streak match. If you think the originally scheduled Main Event was going to get 1 million buys, could adding the Phenom get 2 million?? Hey, it’s better than Undertaker vs. Kane III, or Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels III, or Undertaker vs. Triple H III, or Undertaker vs. (anyone he has already faced) II. He’s never faced The Rock or Cena at Mania. Why not!?

As for WM XXIX, the only SuperStar the Undertaker should face, if he is going for 21 – 0 would be…the Undertaker. It’s the best way to go out. Bringing back his Doppelganger not only guarantees an Undertaker victory, but could ease up the “work load” of the Legendary Dead Man. As a matter of fact, make it a Fatal Four Way match. The Western Mortician vs. The Lord of Darkness vs. The American Bad @$$ vs. Mark Calaway (Similar to Cactus Jack vs. Mankind vs. Dude Love vs. Mick Foley in my Smackdown vs. Raw 2007 video game, Fatal Four Way for the Hardcore Title.) I’m sure the WWE can find 3 people to impersonate the Undertaker for his Grande Finale on the Grandest Stage Of Them All!!

 

[BigEvilUndertaker]

There could be many ways you could go towards this you could make him face a rising superstar to give him a push but in the direction that WWE has headed with the streak, that hasn't happened in a long time. Since Undertakers match with Batista at WrestleMania 23 every single one of his WM matches afterwards were all very high profile matches against legend superstars think about it... Edge, Shawn Michaels, Triple H? hmm... Randy has already had a shot... John Cena is out of the picture for that match this year...

So as a traditionalist, from my perspective I think... THERE IS ONLY ONE MAN!... Who can attempt to SAVE US (I hope not, 20-0 baby ) from the streak and hasn't had an opportunity...

Y2J.

(This going from a stance of keeping it a very high profile match).