2016 WrestleZone Tournament Live Draw

[Papa Pillman]

Ya Tanahashi has zero chance against Lesnar.

Of course he doesn't. That's why I said the right thing, not the popular thing.

As we're learning more than ever here in America right now from who is leading our presidential primaries, the popular choice who is primed to win is often the clearly inferior choice.

 

[Coco]

I'll keep that in mind as there are going to be some changes to how the voting is done next year.

Ditto.

I think you'd be surprised. In a pleasant way. Big if true.

With the exception of RVD at number one. Obvs.

 

[NSL]

Ya Tanahashi has zero chance against Lesnar.

Especially if the tournament is somewhere like...Madison Square Garden.

Speaking of which: http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?p=5443825#post5443825

 

[Sai the Uganda Guy]

Of course he doesn't. That's why I said the right thing, not the popular thing.

As we're learning more than ever here in America right now from who is leading our presidential primaries, the popular choice who is primed to win is often the clearly inferior choice.

The fact that there's a good chance it'll come down between Hillary and Trump terrifies me.

 

[Bernkastel]

Especially if the tournament is somewhere like...Madison Square Garden.

Speaking of which: http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?p=5443825#post5443825

PiggyGliggly said something about location not really mattering. He's right. Andre fought Taker at MSG last year and still lost. Plus given NJPW's past and now current relationship with WWE and that their stars have always done well at MSG, I'd say location would be a non factor.

Now if the match was in Minnesota...

 

[Bagpipes]

Kane vs Brody will be a war. Other than that, it should be an easily picked first round. Although I can see Sami vs Warrior being a bit ridiculous. I love Sami as much as the next fan but no way he can beat Warrior.

Bruiser's got a decent shot at consecutive "upsets" in the first 2 rounds.

 

[Bagpipes]

Bret and Curt in the first round is gonna be real fun as well.

 

[BringThePain834]

Ya Tanahashi has zero chance against Lesnar.

and for unknown reasons, Lesnar refused to drop the IWGP belt against him.

 

[Lee]

Blame me for Neville being so high and Mr. Perfect being so low (I forgot to put him on the list, he would have been in my top 15).

 

[Uncle Sam]

I obviously didn't put much thought into placement or fairness but hey, that's just me all over.

1. Brock Lesnar
2. Bret Hart
3. Mick Foley
4. Rey Mysterio
5. Steve Austin
6. Daniel Bryan
7. Bayley
8. Diamond Dallas Page
9. Sami Zayn
10. CM Punk
11. Triple H
12. The Rock
13. The Boss AKA Sasha Banks
14. AJ Styles
15. John Cena
16. Kurt Angle
17. Shane McMahon
18. Christian
19. Sting
20. Bubba Ray Dudley
21. Randy Orton
22. Goldust
23. Big Daddy
24. Jeff Hardy
25. Andre the Giant
26. Crash Holly
27. Roman Reigns
28. Scott Hall
29. Rusev
30. Randy Savage
31. Curt Hennig
32. The Undertaker
33. Rob Van Dam
34. Chris Jericho
35. William Regal
36. Stevie Richards
37. Chris Benoit
38. Bray Wyatt
39. The Big Show
40. The Dynamite Kid
41. Ethan Carter III
42. Eddie Guerrero
43. Chris Benoit
44. Zack Sabre Jr.
45. Dusty Rhodes
46. Samoa Joe
47. Neville
48. Billy Graham
49. Jimmy Havoc
50. Davey Boy Smith
51. Ric Flair
52. Grado
53. Big E
54. Lita
55. Brian Pillman
56. Batista
57. Harley Race
58. Asuka
59. Raven
60. Edge
61. Jerry Lawler
62. Roddy Piper
63. Taz
64. Kane
65. Vince McMahon
66. Shinsuke Nakamura
67. Dean Malenko
68. Bam Bam Bigelow
69. Scott Steiner
70. Nigel McGuinness
71. Owen Hart
72. Bobby Lashley
73. James Storm
74. The Miz
75. X-Pac
76. Kevin Nash
77. Robert Roode
78. Kenny Omega
79. Jack Swagger
80. Ricky Steamboat
81. Goldberg
82. Yokozuna
83. Roderick Strong
84. Seth Rollins
85. Joey Ryan
86. Vader
87. Chyna
88. Lou Thesz
89. Booker T
90. Awesome Kong
91. Kevin Owens
92. Rick Rude
93. Finn Balor
94. Cesaro
95. Mark Henry
96. Will Ospreay
97. Sid Vicious
98. Ahmed Johnson
99. Jake Roberts
100. John Morrison
101. Road Dogg
102. Rikishi
103. Cody Rhodes
104. JBL
105. Scotty 2 Hotty
106. The Honky Tonk Man
107. Sheamus
108. Arn Anderson
109. Mike Awesome
110. Adam Cole
111. Austin Aries
112. Drew Galloway
113. Matt Hardy
114. Gail Kim
115. Trish Stratus
116. Dean Ambrose
117. Bo Dallas
118. Bart Gunn
119. D'Lo Brown
120. Charlotte
121. Jeff Jarrett
122. Sabu
123. Umaga
124. Christopher Daniels
125. Lex Luger
126. The Ultimate Warrior
127. Hulk Hogan
128. Essa Rios

 

[Uncle Sam]

Bart Gunn is obviously on there due to his reputation as a shooter. Like Butterbean wouldn't have laid Thesz out.

 

[Lee]

Here's my list. If you notice past the top 25 I don't really have them in order just oooh they're wrestlers.

1 The Rock
2 Hulk Hogan
3 Stone Cold Steve Austin
4 Macho Man Randy Savage
5 The American Dream Dusty Rhodes
6 Stevie Richards
7 Bret 'The Hitman' Hart
8 John Cena
9 Brock Lesnar
10 British Bulldog
11 Triple H
12 Daniel Bryan
13 Bob Backlund
14 Bruno Sammartino
15 Andre the Giant
16 Ric Flair
17 Sting
18 The Undertaker
19 Kurt Angle
20 Edge
21 Jeff Hardy
22 CM Punk
23 Randy Orton
24 Rowdy Roddy Piper
25 AJ Styles
26 Owen Hart
27 Road Warrior Animal
28 Road Warrior Hawk
29 Kevin Nash
30 Scott Hall
31 Ddp
32 Jake the Snake Roberts
33 The Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase
34 Sid
35 Jerry 'The King' Lawler
36 The Go(o)dfather
37 The Big Show
38 Kane
39 Mick Foley
40 Eddie Guerrero
41 Dean Malenko
42 Kevin Owens
43 Samoa Joe
44 Chris Benoit
45 Perry Saturn
46 Chris Jericho
47 Christian
48 Neville
49 Ricky 'the Dragon' Steamboat
50 Lou Thesz
51 Terry Funk
52 Dory Funk Jr.
53 Kerry Von Erich
54 Michael Hayes
55 Big Van Vader
56 Rikishi
57 Superstar Billy Graham
58 Arn Anderson
59 Tully Blanchard
60 Barry Windham
61 Booker T
62 Raven
63 Blue Meanie
64 Goldust
65 Hurricane Helms
66 Shane McMahon
67 Mil Mascaras
68 Big Daddy
69 Mick McManus
70 Vince McMahon
71 Test
72 The Miz
73 Sheamus
74 Wade Barrett
75 Jeff Jarrett
76 JBL
77 Rick Rude
78 William Regal
79 The Mountie
80 El Santo
81 Cody Rhodes
82 Crash Holly
83 Hardcore Holly
84 X-Pac
85 Road Dogg
86 Billy Gunn
87 Big Daddy V
88 Doink the Clown
89 Taz
90 Roman Reigns
91 Bull Buchanan
92 Val Venis
93 Earthquake
94 Great Khali
95 RVD
96 Sabu
97 Bam Bam Bigelow
98 Rick Martel
99 Austin Aries
100 Jack Brisco
101 Pat Patterson
102 Pete Gas
103 Jimmy Superfly Snuka
104 One Man Gang
105 Funaki
106 Ron Simmons
107 Carlito
108 Umaga
109 Mike Awesome
110 Ahmed Johnson
111 Heath Slater
112 Drew McIntyre
113 Ronnie Garvin
114 Chavo Guerrero
115 Carlos Colon
116 Hornswoggle
117 Bob Orton Jr
118 Brian Christopher
119 EC3
120 Rhino
121 Ax
122 Smash
123 Crush
124 Jim 'The Anvil' Neidhart
125 Kendo Nagasaki
126 Ole Anderson
127 Greg The Hammer Valentine
128 Shawn Michaels

 

[Bagpipes]

Man you guys really do like Stevie Richards alot, don't ya?

 

[Uncle Sam]

Rewatching the Attitude Era has convinced me that he and Scotty 2 Hotty are probably the two most underappreciated wrestlers of the last twenty years. Crash Holly deserves more praise too.

 

[Lee]

Rewatching the Attitude Era has convinced me that he and Scotty 2 Hotty are probably the two most underappreciated wrestlers of the last twenty years. Crash Holly deserves more praise too.

FINALLY

I love the guy, he has fun. He's had some serious injuries and he just goes out and enjoys himself. Whether it was bWo, RTC, Stevie Night Heat or the Flock.

 

[Randy Orton's Head Blood]

Here's my list. If you notice past the top 25 I don't really have them in order just oooh they're wrestlers.

1 The Rock
2 Hulk Hogan
3 Stone Cold Steve Austin
4 Macho Man Randy Savage
5 The American Dream Dusty Rhodes
6 Stevie Richards
7 Bret 'The Hitman' Hart
8 John Cena
9 Brock Lesnar
10 British Bulldog
11 Triple H
12 Daniel Bryan
13 Bob Backlund
14 Bruno Sammartino
15 Andre the Giant
16 Ric Flair
17 Sting
18 The Undertaker
19 Kurt Angle
20 Edge
21 Jeff Hardy
22 CM Punk
23 Randy Orton
24 Rowdy Roddy Piper
25 AJ Styles
26 Owen Hart
27 Road Warrior Animal
28 Road Warrior Hawk
29 Kevin Nash
30 Scott Hall
31 Ddp
32 Jake the Snake Roberts
33 The Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase
34 Sid
35 Jerry 'The King' Lawler
36 The Go(o)dfather
37 The Big Show
38 Kane
39 Mick Foley
40 Eddie Guerrero
41 Dean Malenko
42 Kevin Owens
43 Samoa Joe
44 Chris Benoit
45 Perry Saturn
46 Chris Jericho
47 Christian
48 Neville
49 Ricky 'the Dragon' Steamboat
50 Lou Thesz
51 Terry Funk
52 Dory Funk Jr.
53 Kerry Von Erich
54 Michael Hayes
55 Big Van Vader
56 Rikishi
57 Superstar Billy Graham
58 Arn Anderson
59 Tully Blanchard
60 Barry Windham
61 Booker T
62 Raven
63 Blue Meanie
64 Goldust
65 Hurricane Helms
66 Shane McMahon
67 Mil Mascaras
68 Big Daddy
69 Mick McManus
70 Vince McMahon
71 Test
72 The Miz
73 Sheamus
74 Wade Barrett
75 Jeff Jarrett
76 JBL
77 Rick Rude
78 William Regal
79 The Mountie
80 El Santo
81 Cody Rhodes
82 Crash Holly
83 Hardcore Holly
84 X-Pac
85 Road Dogg
86 Billy Gunn
87 Big Daddy V
88 Doink the Clown
89 Taz
90 Roman Reigns
91 Bull Buchanan
92 Val Venis
93 Earthquake
94 Great Khali
95 RVD
96 Sabu
97 Bam Bam Bigelow
98 Rick Martel
99 Austin Aries
100 Jack Brisco
101 Pat Patterson
102 Pete Gas
103 Jimmy Superfly Snuka
104 One Man Gang
105 Funaki
106 Ron Simmons
107 Carlito
108 Umaga
109 Mike Awesome
110 Ahmed Johnson
111 Heath Slater
112 Drew McIntyre
113 Ronnie Garvin
114 Chavo Guerrero
115 Carlos Colon
116 Hornswoggle
117 Bob Orton Jr
118 Brian Christopher
119 EC3
120 Rhino
121 Ax
122 Smash
123 Crush
124 Jim 'The Anvil' Neidhart
125 Kendo Nagasaki
126 Ole Anderson
127 Greg The Hammer Valentine
128 Shawn Michaels

How comes HBK is your 128?

 

[Shadowmancer]

How comes HBK is your 128?

Because it gives one point to HBK and since he was already going to be in this, it just adjustswhere he is minorly

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

There was a general feeling that Lesnar should've killed HBK in last year's final and that a certain someone, as a wedding present to his future wife, may have advocated a little too hard for a certain Mr. HBK, following what I guess we'd call the Will formula for gaining votes and subsequently victory. Hence Michaels being last. Others had Lesnar as their #1 for the whole tourney.

Oh, and my list:

1. “Stone Cold” Steve Austin
2. Hulk Hogan
3. El Santo
4. Lou Thesz
5. The Rock
6. Antonio Inoki
7. Blue Demon (Sr.)
8. John Cena
9. The Undertaker
10. Ric Flair
11. Andre the Giant
12. Sting
13. Bret Hart
14. Mitsuharu Misawa
15. Harley Race
16. Mil Máscaras
17. Shawn Michaels
18. Big Daddy
19. Randy Savage
20. Triple H
21. Kurt Angle
22. Verne Gagne
23. Dusty Rhodes
24. Mick Foley
25. Brock Lesnar
26. Bruno Sammartino
27. Giant Baba
28. Keiji Mutoh/The Great Muta
29. Randy Orton
30. Nick Bockwinkel
31. Terry Funk
32. Hiroshi Tanahashi
33. Rey Mysterio (Jr.)
34. “Superstar” Billy Graham
35. “Rowdy” Roddy Piper
36. Kenta Kobashi
37. Rikidōzan
38. Edge
39. Dory Funk Jr.
40. CM Punk
41. Big Van Vader
42. Batista
43. Dos Caras
44. Stan Hansen
45. Chris Jericho
46. Brusier Brody
47. Jack Brisco
48. Bob Backlund
49. Jushin Thunder Liger
50. Pat O'Connor
51. El Perro Aguayo (Sr.)
52. Jumbo Tsuruta
53. Gene Kiniski
54. Genichiro Tenryu
55. El Canek
56. Antonino Rocca
57. Eddie Guerrero
58. Tatsumi Fujinami
59. Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan
60. The Ultimate Warrior
61. Jerry “The King” Lawler
62. Carlos Colón
63. Ted DiBiase
64. Booker T
65. Goldberg
66. Bobo Brazil
67. Toshiaki Kawada
68. Chris Benoit
69. AJ Styles
70. Buddy Rogers
71. Kevin Nash
72. La Parka/L.A. Park
73. Dick “The Destroyer” Beyer
74. The Big Show
75. Gorgeous George
76. Kane
77. Dynamite Kid
78. Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat
79. Shinsuke Nakamura
80. Scott Hall
81. Masahiro Chono
82. Jake “The Snake” Roberts
83. Rob Van Dam
84. Giant Haystacks
85. Ray Mendoza
86. Mick McManus
87. The Crusher
88. Barry Windham
89. Lex Luger
90. Diamond Dallas Page
91. Dean Malenko
92. Mad Dog Vachon
93. Dick the Bruiser
94. Shinya Hashimoto
95. “Mr. Perfect” Curt Hennig
96. Último Dragón
97. Terry “Bam Bam” Gordy
98. Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka
99. Killer Kowalski
100. Kazuchika Okada
101. Pedro Morales
102. Ron Simmons
103. Raven
104. Scott Steiner
105. Taz(z)
106. Dick Hutton
107. Jeff Hardy
108. Satoru Sayama/Tiger Mask I
109. Roman Reigns
110. John “Bradshaw” Layfield
111. Gory Guerrero
112. Ricky Banderas/Mil Muertes/El Mesías
113. The Great Sasuke
114. Dr. Wagner Jr.
115. Sgt. Slaughter
116. Seth Rollins
117. Jeff Jarrett
118. The Iron Sheik
119. Rick Rude
120. Tully Blanchard
121. “Dr. Death” Steve Williams
122. Owen Hart
123. Arn Anderson
124. Karl Gotch
125. Davey Boy Smith/The British Bulldog
126. Johnny Saint
127. Otto Wanz
128. Kendo Nagasaki

 

[Uncle Sam]

There was a general feeling that Lesnar should've killed HBK in last year's final and that a certain someone, as a wedding present to his future wife, may have advocated a little too hard for a certain Mr. HBK, following what I guess we'd call the Will formula for gaining votes and subsequently victory.

Feeling, admission of guilt - it's all the same really.

 

[klunderbunker]

Feeling, admission of guilt - it's all the same really.

Pettiness, annoyingness, pot calling the kettle black, the reason none of you are ever voting in this again as long as I'm running it again. It's all the same really.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

If you have enough stroke to pull the Will formula off why not?

 

[Uncle Sam]

Pettiness, annoyingness, pot calling the kettle black, the reason none of you are ever voting in this again as long as I'm running it again. It's all the same really.

I know this is your latest flop in your weekly flip-flop of deciding whether to admit you did something wrong but my missing Shawn Michaels off my list, which is the only thing I would have done differently, doesn't equate with the fixing of your own tournament seedlings to give yourself ammunition for a public tantrum.

Your dignity's at an all-time low. I wouldn't normally give a fuck but you decided to be nasty to me when I pointed out you admitted guilt, which you have done, so by all means tighten your stranglehold on this already emaciated forum.

 

[Lee]

Pettiness, annoyingness, pot calling the kettle black, the reason none of you are ever voting in this again as long as I'm running it again. It's all the same really.

Are you taking the piss?

 

[Lee]

How comes HBK is your 128?

I'm not over the 1995 Rumble yet.

 

[klunderbunker]

I know this is your latest flop in your weekly flip-flop of deciding whether to admit you did something wrong but my missing Shawn Michaels off my list, which is the only thing I would have done differently, doesn't equate with the fixing of your own tournament seedlings to give yourself ammunition for a public tantrum.

Your dignity's at an all-time low. I wouldn't normally give a fuck but you decided to be nasty to me when I pointed out you admitted guilt, which you have done, so by all means tighten your stranglehold on this already emaciated forum.

Given that you had Sasha Banks, Bayley and Sami Zayn among others on a list of the greatest of all time, I'm really not worried about this. It would have been nice to have one thing around here be serious but hey, you all felt oh so strongly about Shawn Michaels beating Lesnar in the tournament (this time at least. Why this wasn't an issue when he beat him twice before isn't clear to me) that you had to make sure to do the exact thing you were oh so offended by me doing: making sure one person was as damaged as you could make him in protest or whatever you called it.

This tournament turned into a joke long before last year's finals and the new voting format is going to fix a lot of that.