WWE RAW Super Special Awesome Show 10/10/2011 - No Commentators and Six Wrestlers

[Thriller Ant]

This episode started off so well, then it quickly turned into the same old shit

 

[Gregor_Samsa]

They really need Booker T back on commentary.

 

[klunderbunker]

Miz and Truth are really boring on offense.

 

[Taker Sucks]

I know this is the most overused statement ever but I honestly came when HHH came out. NOw my keyboard is sticky

 

[Rising Savior]

Pretty odd show

 

[Harthan]

What a fantastic episode of Raw. Maybe the best in years.

The worst part was Punk. Especially when I thought he was going to do commentary.

 

[Gregor_Samsa]

yup, H and C

 

[newc868]

Awesome Truth vs Triple Punk, Cena vs Del Rio and Henry vs Big Show. Nice card for Vengeance. Hopefully they'll round out the card with some Air Boom vs Team Vickie and Orton vs Rhodes.

 

[klunderbunker]

Review is up.

When All Else Fails, Hit Reset

 

[Gregor_Samsa]

Yay, Law and Order SVU. Bad acting, rape and pedophilia! Rest of my night is planned.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I knew WWE couldn't hold out their talent too long but they had a chance to do something really unique tonight with Raw and instead we get a quick resolution leading to a new story (the Johnny Ace Era).

I hope the ratings breakdown shows a steep decline after the Johnny Ace announcement on.

Meh.

 

[The Champ]

What a fantastic episode of Raw. Maybe the best in years.

The worst part was Punk. Especially when I thought he was going to do commentary.

What? Punk was one of the only shining lights in what I thought was a VERY disappointing episode.

I'd like to know why you thought it was so great.

 

[Slyfox696]

What? Punk was one of the only shining lights in what I thought was a VERY disappointing episode.

I'd like to know why you thought it was so great.

I think he forgot his [/sarcasm] tag.

 

[PINFALLMagazine]

At least we have the Mark Henry storyline. That's been the lone consistent bright spot these last few months.

WWE Monday Night Raw 10/10 Full Review

 

[The Champ]

I think he forgot his [/sarcasm] tag.

Oh, my bad.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

Sounds like I didn't miss much.

 

[JJYanks121]

I don't know what everyone's problem is. While I would have liked a full episode of just a few guys "making it work", the storyline progression here was excellent in my opinion.

For those saying "back to the same old"......that's the point. You are supposed to see that as well as seeing that Funkman is letting the heels run wild, leading to a battle to settle it. This fits into the big picture and all the results for the most part here speak to that.

Also, JR getting fired was the perfect thing to do. Funky has to be the heel and you need to hate him, so you fire him in his hometown. He can always come back when the faces triumph in this storyline and it helped progress the story.

I quite enjoyed myself with this show and I honestly think everyone is being too hard on it.

 

[Slyfox696]

I don't know what everyone's problem is. While I would have liked a full episode of just a few guys "making it work", the storyline progression here was excellent in my opinion.

For those saying "back to the same old"......that's the point. You are supposed to see that as well as seeing that Funkman is letting the heels run wild, leading to a battle to settle it. This fits into the big picture and all the results for the most part here speak to that.

Also, JR getting fired was the perfect thing to do. Funky has to be the heel and you need to hate him, so you fire him in his hometown. He can always come back when the faces triumph in this storyline and it helped progress the story.

I quite enjoyed myself with this show and I honestly think everyone is being too hard on it.

Completely agree, though I didn't realize people were being hard on it. Though I would say if the WWE is trying to make their show seem stale, it would be dangerous territory.

But yes, this is all leading to a Survivor Series showdown, part of bringing back the prestige of that PPV.

 

[The Champ]

Sometimes the buildup isn't worth the payoff. In terms of Survivor Series, it probably will be. But in the case of JR, sitting through weeks of terrible commentary is absolutely not worth the nice moment that it will be to have him back when Triple H takes over again.

I understand that they're building to SS and that the storyline progression was logical. But the walkout should have, at the very least, lasted the entire episode. Vince could have come out and announced Laurinaitis at the end, which would give us yet another cliffhanger for next week.

 

[Slyfox696]

Sometimes the buildup isn't worth the payoff. In terms of Survivor Series, it probably will be. But in the case of JR, sitting through weeks of terrible commentary is absolutely not worth the nice moment that it will be to have him back when Triple H takes over again.

I understand that they're building to SS and that the storyline progression was logical. But the walkout should have, at the very least, lasted the entire episode. Vince could have come out and announced Laurinaitis at the end, which would give us yet another cliffhanger for next week.

I don't think you could fill 2 hours with only four people, without making your audience grow bored. Overexposing your top guys is not a good idea.


By the way, I think the commentary is better without JR. Have thought so for years. Now if we could only get JBL to come back, then a team with Cole, King and JBL would be excellent.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

They didn't have to stick with the four guys all episode. Others could have crossed the line ("pun intended"). HHH could have premiered some new guys ("new tag team called "scabs" or "Dey Took Our Jobs!"). HHH could have brought in a bunch of cheap labor "Mexican" and "Asian" workers to fill in time - one of those guys could have turned out to be a weasely Christian in a mask who uses the opportunity to get close to Sheamus and pummel him with chair.

My point is that they had an opportunity to do something original and keep me from flipping to Bears-Lions. They decided to go safe and just keep the storyline progression.

 

[Slyfox696]

They didn't have to stick with the four guys all episode. Others could have crossed the line ("pun intended"). HHH could have premiered some new guys ("new tag team called "scabs" or "Dey Took Our Jobs!"). HHH could have brought in a bunch of cheap labor "Mexican" and "Asian" workers to fill in time - one of those guys could have turned out to be a weasely Christian in a mask who uses the opportunity to get close to Sheamus and pummel him with chair.

My point is that they had an opportunity to do something original and keep me from flipping to Bears-Lions. They decided to go safe and just keep the storyline progression.

And a bunch of jobbers, no-names and people with no experience would have been more enjoyable? Somehow I doubt it.

 

[Барбоса]

I personally rather enjoyed RAW. At times the middle hour had an old school feel to it with the heels getting the upper hand through the numbers game and sneak attacks - the Rhodes attack on Orton and his maniacal laughter after was particularly good.

Johnny Ace has quickly put his stamp on things, siding with the heels and putting both of his enemies, Punk and HHH, on notice even if he himself still needs a lot of work in front of the camera. The absence of Cena post-opening was a little strange - he could easily have confronted the fleeing Del Rio.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

In two posts you go from overexposing your main event talent is a bad idea to filling a show with jobbers and no names is a bad idea. If this is what you think I am suggesting, you are wrong.

How about a happy medium of your top draw, 4 or 5 top stars, new guys that we will never hear from again and a couple of alumni?

They only had an hour and a half to fill ignoring commercials. This could have been done far more creatively and by the end of the show they could have still progressed to the point that Johnny Ace takes over. Your story still gets to the same place, you just take a different path.

 

[Slyfox696]

In two posts you go from overexposing your main event talent is a bad idea to filling a show with jobbers and no names is a bad idea. If this is what you think I am suggesting, you are wrong.

So when you said:

"HHH could have premiered some new guys ("new tag team called "scabs" or "Dey Took Our Jobs!"). HHH could have brought in a bunch of cheap labor "Mexican" and "Asian" workers to fill in time"

You weren't talking about jobbers, no-names and inexperienced workers?

How about a happy medium of your top draw, 4 or 5 top stars, new guys that we will never hear from again and a couple of alumni?

What's the benefit to that? Let's assume your top guys take up 40 minutes of your 2 hour and 5 minute show. Why are you going to waste the other 85 minutes on people you'll never make money on? Not only would the be less enjoyable, there would be no benefit either. Just so you can have an interesting angle the last 5 minutes of the show?

This could have been done far more creatively and by the end of the show they could have still progressed to the point that Johnny Ace takes over. Your story still gets to the same place, you just take a different path.

Yes, one which wastes 85 minutes of precious TV time on guys who will never make you money again. One in which 85 minutes is wasted on guys nobody knows or cares about. What's the benefit to that?

And let's not forget their obligation to the people who paid to attend the show. Do you think those fans paid to watch no-names and guys they don't care about? Do you think they wanted to watch scabs and cheap labor? Of course not. They bought their tickets to see the WWE, not ROH (sorry, cheap shot).

No, the WWE made the right decision to end the walk out when they did.