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WWE Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Vladimir Koslov

I think Koslov will win this match, that or Hardy might sneak a victory in. I think they want to put over Koslov. I don't watch smackdown anymore since I don't get My Network TV in my area, but what I have seen Koslov is pretty terrible. Not entertaining in my opinion. I think a Championship switch would help rating, give it a new appeal. That and it allows Triple H to be a contender and makes for better televison. I wouldn't be surprised if Hardy snuck in and stole a victory from Kozlov setting up a match between the two at the next PPV and Triple H getting a title match at the Royal Rumble. This would allow him to regain the title in time to set up a great Wrestle Mania match with whoever the McMahons choose, my guess at this point for that is Edge. There American Bash Match was alright, but they can really expand and make this a fued. It is what the WWE needs to help with their ratings issues
 
koslov won't win, they won't give the strap to someone whose still technically a rookie, i look to see triple h go over koslov in this match, either that or it's a triple threat with hardy finally winning, or someone getting screwed over by a returning edge
 
koslov won't win, they won't give the strap to someone whose still technically a rookie, i look to see triple h go over koslov in this match, either that or it's a triple threat with hardy finally winning, or someone getting screwed over by a returning edge

Don't be to surprise if Koslov wins the championship simply because they did it before with other rookies. If you remember your WWE history, Brock Lesnar won the WWE championship after only four months on the main roster, Bobby Lashley won the ECW Championship after only a year on the roster. So it'S been done before and i wouldn'T be surprised if on sunday, Koslov join the club of rookies winning the strap.
 
So it's now officially a triple threat match with Hardy thrown in the mix. I think this is the last chance for a while for Hardy to win. The last couple of weeks he has been on a role beating both Taker & HHH(even though both were made to seem like flukes)and now that he has more of an edge to his character I think it would be great to put the strap on him. The match should be good since their has been some build to this match and I can see it being fairly entertaining. Kozlov could pick the title up, he has been built pretty good but I just don't know. Then again HHH could end up retaining since for the last couple of weeks he has been on the losing edge. Speaking of Edge, maybe he will return and interfere in the match(wouldn't make a whole lot of sence but it could set of Edge vs. Hardy)either way I'm actually excited for these match and am rooting for Jeff to finally get it(probably pinning Kozlov, I don't see HHH being pinned).
 
Well I thought, seeing as Jeff is involved, I'd share my thoughts on this match. Basically I'm pumped because there is a chance Jeff could get it, but for some reason I have this decent sized feeling it won't happen. I still desperately want Jeff to get it though.

Now anyone could really win this match, because everyone is set up for it. Allow me to elaborate.

Vladimir Kozlov could win based off the fact that he is being strongly built up by the WWE and on the previous SD! before S Series he leveled both Jeff and HHH after their match. Although my policy is usually whoever has the advantage before a PPV match loses (although the WWE have shifted slightly from that booking so I look at other things) so I don't think Kozlov would get it. Also he isn't exactly ready to hold the belt, especially with the WWE struggling a bit as a company right now (although that is more so on RAW.)

Jeff Hardy could easily be put in a position to win after beating Undertaker and HHH 2 weeks in a row. He is ready enough to hold the belt. He was also laid out by Kozlov, so I doubt he would get take a pin and HHH wouldn't get pinned either so it makes sense for Hardy to be doing the pinning. One other thought that crossed my mind was that maybe they just have Hardy get the wins where it doesn't count majorly, so he doesn't lose momentum if he has to take the pin at S Series. Another thought is that I doubt they would have Hardy get pinned 3 PPVs in a row.

HHH. Simply, I don't know. I mean I expect HHH to retain because on the SD! before S Series he was pinned by Hardy and then taken out by Kozlov. I'm not sure HHH would lose (or not win) yet again. Then again, if he doesn't get pinned it won't matter all that much.

Usually I'd go HHH by default because of the situation, however, with Jeff involved and the push he seems to be getting towards the belt I may as well follow the majority and go with Jeff. I'm hoping.
 
The only way I think that HHH will not win this match is if it was decided backstage that he needs yet another feather in his cap, and this would free him up to either win another royal rumble (or an elimination chamber match) and be put back in contention.
 
I think is the one where Hardy wins the title. They have been building him up for the last couple months as being so close yet coming up just short. It doesn't make sense to keep building someone like that and then have them never get there. Cause this is going to be the last title shot for a while if Hardy loses. I've really enjoyed the build to this match though, and I think it will be one of the better ones on the PPV. Unlike most people, I see HHH being pinned by Hardy here. Although I do think it will be one of those circumstances where HHH takes many finishers to be finished. The way I see it going is HHH gets the big headbutt by Koslov, who then gets tossed out of the ring by Hardy. Then a Twist of Fate to HHH followed by a Swanton in order to pin him. In the past the only way HHH gets beat clean is if someone gives him multiple finishers.
 
This is it. There is no better time to put the WWE Championship on Jeff Hardy, then right now. The guy has been consistant for over 2 years straight. Seriously, who the hell thought Jeff Hardy would ever become a main eventer? This match clearly should have taken place at Cyber Sunday. I just can't see Vladimir Kozlov winning the WWE Title here. He's still too new to even be close to the title. One could say he is currently being overpushed. Fast pushes never work out good for anyone in the end.

Since I believe Kozlov won't win this triple threat match, that means his undefeated streak will come to an end. Therefore, there's really no point of him being in this match, unless he gets pinned. If Triple H pins Kozlov, well then Jeff Hardy has really no reason to be in this match since he has already been pinned by The Game twice now in consequetive pay per views, and won't be any good here. But, it makes perfect sense to have the triple threat take place, so Hardy could finally win the title by pinning Kozlov. That way, Hardy wins the big one without pinning the champion so both look strong. And Kozlov fairly loses his undefeated streak.

It is fairly confusing, but I really hope Jeff wins it here. He has been kept 'clean' since Wrestlemania. There is seriously no point in having him defeat the Undertaker and Triple H cleanly in two separate weeks if he isn't going to win the title. The match should be great and should be an entertaining 23 minute triple threat bout with Hardy winning with a rollup on Kozlov. If Jeff loses here, then the WWE have wasted a good opportunity and Hardy will most likely never win the title in his career. In my opinion, Jeff Hardy has been one of the most hardworking superstars this year, he is also way over with the fans and his new gimmick is catching on with the audience very quickly. If these aren't signs to become a WWE Champion, then I don't know what is.
 
if Jeff can't beat Koslov 1 on 1 and he can't beat HHH 1 on 1 for the title, how is he supposed to succesfully beat him AND Koslov at the same time?

I think that Koslov should purely because i prefer him to Koslov by miles, and would love nothing more than to see HHH lose the WWE championship to a rookie. That would make my year.

What with this wierd post about Jeff being found unconscious in his hotel room it's too hard to tell what will happen tonight. 1 on 1 PPV matches are too hard to predict anyway, let alone Triple Threats.

Koslov ftw
 
Well now that the story of Jeff being unconscious have arose, it makes things interesting. Know I think its all apart of the storyline. Before this i thought Jeff was taking the title for sure. Just look at his run in to this match. He beat 2 of the biggest names in the business in back to back weeks and has found his 'extreme side'. He has all the momentum and i think the WWE are stupid if they waiste this opportunity go. Koslov is not ready, and Triple H needs to drop the title for a bit.

But since this story came about it has changed my thinking a little. One of the options i see happening is the match starts with only Koslov and Triple H one on one. No one knows where Jeff Hardy is untill he makes his comback and wins it out of nowhere.

But i think this storyline has to do something with Edge. Now if Jeff was unconscious, it has to be by being attacked. Thus i see the attacker being Edge. Triple H would beat Koslov then on Smackdown it is reveled Edge was the attacker and makes his return.

Im not really sure, just giving ideas on why WWE would bring about a story like this on the day of the event. Should be interesting!
 
If Jeff doesn't win, we riot.

Seriously, if the WWE do not give Jeff the strap, they are morons. He's changed his look, his attitude, he should give him the strap and see how he goes with it. At least it'll be a change for someone with a unique offense hold the title belt. But hopefully they let him have a semi long reign, and when he loses it it isn't a squash.

And now with the new story about him being found unconcious, I'm almost certain he'll win this. Especially with it being in the Survivor Series section (smart WWE) they're most giving away that it's a hoax. So Jeff is going to come out when they've started the match, and either tough it out, or maybe wait until HHH hits the Pedigree or Kozlov hits his headbutt then knock one of them out and get th cover.

Another scenario is Edge either takes Hardy's place and steals the win. But this is probably not going to happen. But maybe Edge will come in and knock both Kozlov and HHH out, then Jeff comes down and one Swanton Bomb later, we have a new WWE champion. I reckon this is what will happen, logical solution. Provides Edge an opportunity tocome back, gets Jeff the championship. Everybody wins.
 
WWE.com just posted that Jeff Hardy was found unconscious in the stairway of the boston hotel, so i don'T know what that means for the triple threat match tonight but one thing is certain if Hardy is o.k. to go and wrestle tonight, am certain that wwe official won't let him win tonight or for that matter even do much during that match.
 
I can't see Kozlov having a lengthy title reign, but he could win the title in this match.

Edge is supposedly in Boston today, and from WWE's posting today it looks like Hardy is out of this match. I could see Kozlov winning the title (with Edge assistance?) and handing it over to Edge, feeding his 'ultimate opportunist' moniker. Remember, Kozlov doesn't 'want title', he 'want challenge'. They could make money a factor as well, like DiBease paying Andre to win him the title.

I'll be checking the site tonight to see how this match goes down. Triple H's reign ends tonight.
 
I was beginning to suspect a swerve, a triple threat is too convenient to put on a guy like Hardy. He's being set up to have a HBK moment after the Ironman match he had with Bret.

Edge is obviously the one behind it, although the way I wanted things to work, would be to have Hardy on the cusp of winning the title, then have Edge interfere. Lay Jeff out with the con-chair-to, and have him really bust up laid in the corner between two chairs, and have Trips pin Koslov.

This leads nicely to an Edge/Hardy feud going into Amrageddon/New Years Resolution (whichever it is) and the Rumble, have Jeff win by eliminating Edge in the final two.

Hardy over Triple H at mania, in an iron man match. Think of a reversal of the Scramble, Jeff to level or win right on the buzzer

I would mark so hard i'd make teachers jealous
 
Hmm. I feel a lot of buzz around this match, but I really wonder considering we have Jericho vs. Cena on the same card. Would the WWE really change both world titles on one night? Seems like a stretch. Then again, it would certainly shake things up a bit, but if only one title reign can end tonight, I think it will be Triple H's. It just feels like there's a lot of buzz around it, and it's starting to feel like Triple H as WWE Champion is getting stale. I like Triple H, but it feels like time to move the title to get buzz going. It's been a good title reign, roundabouts seven months.

Now, who is going to win the title is the question. It's pretty crazy. Koslov is the one possibility that doesn't have mystery or controversy about him, and his push reminds me somewhat of Brock Lesnar's. Koslov could certainly win the title tonight and be pushed as a main event heel. Frankly, he has all the factors. He's great in the ring, and gets heat. Sure, his mic skills consist of broken English in a heavy Russian accent, but it gets the heat, and that's what matters. I don't see why not for a Koslov title run.

Hardy has all this unconsciousness business going. I don't know what the hell is going on here. I'm fairly sure it's a work by now, so I don't know what's up. I can't imagine they'll simply declare Jeff Hardy is not going to be in the match, and go back to a one on one, so either Hardy is going to be selling some sort of injury during the match or will have a last minute replacement. If he's going to be selling an injury, I can only imagine he'd be walking away with the title. It would certainly be dramatic.

If there's a replacement, it has to be Edge. And since the last minute replacement always wins, Edge would win.

So any way it goes, I can see Koslov, Hardy, or Edge walking away with the title tonight.
 
First, I wanna say that I really hope that if this report is for real, that Jeff is ok. That is the most important thing if this is a true story. However, if it is an angle, then I think this means that Jeff is finally going to "get the brass ring" as Triple H put it. All of the promos about Jeff lately are about how he is coming up just short. How perfect would it be if this time, when it looks like he won't even be able to compete, he can overcome all of the adversity and get over the hump and win. I believe it is too early for Kozlov to win, even tho he will be in the main event for a while if he can get a real finisher (a headbutt? seriously?) and I am so tired of Triple H as champion. I don't know, and frankly don't care where he will go after he loses, but his reign needs to end. So of course, I hope Jeff is ok, and he will win if he is. If he is sick/hurt/etc., I expect Trips to retain.
 
The time is right for a change. Jeff Hardy is wayyyyy over right now and is possibly the most popular wrestler in the WWE right now. Over the last 2 weeks Jeff has had stellar performances on Smackdown and he has proven he has what it takes to be the WWE champion. On Vladamir Kozlov's side of things , He's proven himself to be a pretty good wrestler and he's starting to gain ground with the fans. He has the look of a future WWE champion but i dont think the it's the right time for him to win a world title yet. and finaly we have the reigning WWE champion Triple H. He's held the title for around 8 months and his reign has realy been kinda bland. The brightest point of his reign has been beating John Cena at Night of Champions in June , Besides that his reign has been pretty boring. He's had a good long reign and it's just a overall good time for a title change. If i had it my way Jeff Hardy would win after a swanton on Triple H. But that's not going to happen because Triple H isnt going to give up the belt just yet.

Triple H wins via Pedigree on Vladamir Kozlov
 
Hardy has all this unconsciousness business going. I don't know what the hell is going on here. I'm fairly sure it's a work by now, so I don't know what's up. I can't imagine they'll simply declare Jeff Hardy is not going to be in the match, and go back to a one on one, so either Hardy is going to be selling some sort of injury during the match or will have a last minute replacement. If he's going to be selling an injury, I can only imagine he'd be walking away with the title. It would certainly be dramatic.

If there's a replacement, it has to be Edge. And since the last minute replacement always wins, Edge would win.

So any way it goes, I can see Koslov, Hardy, or Edge walking away with the title tonight.

This is certainly an interesting scenario...I want to believe, though, that this is when Hardy finally takes the belt. I think we all know this Hardy situation is a work, and definitely would add to the dramatics. And honestly, Hardy has been around for so long that I think he deserves to win in a dramatic fashion. Hardy has basically been a huge face his whole career, especially during his runs for the title...In my opinion, this whole work is a way to make Hardy's win more dramatic and memorable. He has certainly turned into a darker character these past few weeks, maybe the WWE wants Hardy to win the title as more of a pure face and this whole work could take off any heat from that character.

I definitely Edge has some role in this whole thing, and it would be a great way to set up a Hardy/Edge feud that would make for a GREAT WM main event. TLC match for the title, anyone? However, if Edge completely replaces Hardy in this match, I will be really disappointed. They worked Hardy up so much these past few weeks, it would be idiotic to just suddenly take him off the card.

I guess we will have to see, but if the WWE was smart, I think they would go with Hardy getting the clean win off a Swanton (no roll-up bullshit) after something dramatic like a run in by Edge. Maybe we see Edge run in, attack Hardy again when he is just about to win, leaves Hardy a bloody mess. Match goes on with Hardy just lying somewhere, Kozlov and Trips go at it, and when one of them hits their finisher and goes for the win, Hardy hits a Swanton on both men, gets the pin and the win...all in dramatic fashion. I think they place would explode.

Either way, I expect to see a lot of close calls on big moves and finishers, like the EC match when Hardy kicked out of the pedigree.
 
Well, I will eat some of my words. Edge did return but we did not see Hardy go over. I look forward to the Edge/Hardy feud that seems to be coming up over the next few months. Both men obviously have great chemistry and are capable of putting on some PHENOMENAL matches, in my opinion. Lets hope to see this play out over the next few months and hopefully it will culminate at WM with a blockbuster match. If Hardy does not win the belt by then, well, I don't know what then.

Lets hope creative doesn't drop the ball like they are infamous for doing on this one...This is a feud I have been looking forward to ever since Hardy went to Smackdown.
 
I said this in another thread already, but I seriously think that HHH dropped the title just so that he could either win another royal rumble, or another elimination chamber. Edge will probably feud with hardy for a while, meanwhile we'll have the story of HHH as the "underdog", as vickie throws challenge after challenge at him in order to earn his title shot. Eventually he will win the rumble or the elimination chamber, despite overwhelming odds, and challenge edge at wrestlemania. I'm almost positive this is the direction things will go.
 
This was an excellent mat wrestling match although the crowd did'nt enjoy it, i'm sure many older wrestling fans would have. It was a perfect example of how a match was made to look real, they both done different holds and a few submissons on each other which seems the logical way of winning a belt as appose to jumping through tables and doing stupid spots. if i am to be honest i was disapointed when Edge appeared because i was really enjoying the match.

The ending of the match was abit nuts too with Edge reappearing and Hardy also turning up. I enjoyed the ending with Hardy hitting people with chairs and it was unpredictable. Great move on WWE's part to award Edge with the title, i wonder what feuds will blossom from this latest controversial decision by Vickie Guerrero (keeping in kafaybe)
 
the match wasn't too bad, but the whole edge return thing can be a good and a bad thing, i mean if he's back with vickie, then smackdown could become gayer than watching JBL wrestle every week on raw, if he takes revenge on fri and is back to being a bad ass heel like he used to be, then its not to bad cause then it gives both him and Hardy a decent feud, and they can throw in an occasional Extreme rules/TLC match which would only help both of them. But one question, why is no one having a bitch about Edge returning after about the same time off as Cena and winning the Championship, i can understand that they overhyped Cena but after all the time building both Kozlov and Hardy as possible winners and developing that whole fued, why bother. I knew as soon as Hardy was "injured" that Edge would be returning, so my only hope is that i dnt have to put up with another 3 months of Edge and Vickie holding the title, cause that was almost as bad Trips current reign
 
One of the worst PPV main events this year, in my opinion.

Crowd chanted the math was boring and WE WANT HARDY chants were evidenced. It's rather pathetic that Triple H - the WWE champion - gets a smaller pop for his entrance and throughout the match - than Jeff did for the run in. That tells you how incredibily stale he has gotten.

I'd just like to say...

Jeff Hardy vs Edge at Wrestlemania for the WWE title - book it. Stipulation of some kind.
 
Have to say, Koslov and HHH did not go well together. They were both similar slow paces and Koslov looked a little out of his league, no disrespect to the guy. I think both men need a faster opponent to give the matches the turn of speed that both men need to keep the crowd interested.

Plus... Vicky's pathetic announcing didn't help. Doesn't she hate Edge from last time they were on screen... so why would she put him in a match to win the title?
 
This was an excellent mat wrestling match although the crowd did'nt enjoy it, i'm sure many older wrestling fans would have. It was a perfect example of how a match was made to look real, they both done different holds and a few submissons on each other which seems the logical way of winning a belt as appose to jumping through tables and doing stupid spots. if i am to be honest i was disapointed when Edge appeared because i was really enjoying the match.

The ending of the match was abit nuts too with Edge reappearing and Hardy also turning up. I enjoyed the ending with Hardy hitting people with chairs and it was unpredictable. Great move on WWE's part to award Edge with the title, i wonder what feuds will blossom from this latest controversial decision by Vickie Guerrero (keeping in kafaybe)
I gotta agree...that was what I would dare call a "technical" match and not just 2 guys doing a bunch of power-move spots....the Edge part ruined it tho..it would have been better if he came in and caused Triple H to lose to Kozlov, instead of (for the 3rd time) coming in at the final minute, hitting one move and walking away with the title....its funny how alot of people praise that move but shit on CENA getting the belt back after being gone just as long as Edge was (remember, Edge lost HITC the same night Cena hurt his neck)...but Cena actually wrestled a whole match
 

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