Why John Cena Shouldn't Go Heel

Well I do agree with you that Miz has the potential to be a top babyface, but they also shouldn't rush it because then they'll fuck it up massively. Kind of like Orton's and Punk's first face runs didn't really get to where they wanted them to, but then their second face runs took off like wildfire. Obviously Cena's not going to be around forever, but I see no signs of him slowing down right now so I don't think they have anything to worry about for quite a long time. And as I've stated previously, they have guys who can over if he were to go down with an injury. Worst case scenario is they give Del Rio the title back and have him feud with Miz and Punk for it.
 
I am really enjoying the Eb and Flow of this thread, everyone is making really valid points and no one is being disrespectful its just a good natured debate. :)

I think if one thing is clear it is that at some point in the remainder of his career John Cena will invariably get another Heel Turn. When they have had enough time to continue to build up some of the younger talent on the roster, as they have been doing with Rhodes, Ziggler, Swagger, Truth, Miz (already a package as you guys have stated) and so on and i guess that time frame is very difficult to put an estimate on.
By allowing this little bit of extra time they can avoid rushing into anything rash regarding a possible turn for Cena and can have a better idea of who could take up that #1 Face of the Company role if and when they did Turn Cena.
By doing this they could insure that there inst a massive void left in the place of the 'Face' Cena leaving the company with egg on there face.
Now once this is actually done, and then they can make the transition and deliver a well thought out angle for which to do it.
From reading all the pros and con arguments on here I think its helped to give me a better idea of what a Cena Heel Turn would really require, and entail.

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In my opinion, cool heels are paradoxically actually faces. Similarly, goody two shoes babyfaces are heels. That's just how today's world works. I personally think Cena should turn heel at Survivor Series and it would be revealed he's in on the conspiracy against guys like Punk, Miz, and R-Truth. That would be up there on the level of Hogan's NWO heel turn.

It would make for a legendary, iconic moment in wrestling history. Cena could say that nobody appreciated how hard he worked but that's ok because he did it all for the money anyway. Or something along those lines. I still wouldn't root for heel Cena, but it would certainly make WWE awesome again. Punk would then become the massive anti-hero face who works his ass off to destroy Cena and Vince.
 
I was watching the John cena experience DVD and it shows all the kids and how much Cena means to them. Before watching this DVD I wanted him to go heel but now I think that would be a very bad idea. If he becomes a ba guy so many kids dreams would be ruined. But what do you guys think about it

The kids that love Cena aren't as many as the kids that were Hulkamaniacs that got told to stick it brother. Guess what happened to this Hulkamaniac? He bought an NWO shirt and grew the fuck up.. toooo sweeet.
 
The kids that love Cena aren't as many as the kids that were Hulkamaniacs that got told to stick it brother. Guess what happened to this Hulkamaniac? He bought an NWO shirt and grew the fuck up.. toooo sweeet.
What point are you trying to make here? Maybe the kids will start buying Punk shirts or whoever's on top once they get a little older. Or, maybe they'll actually remain Cena fans, because they won't be over analyzing everything he does on the internet. But whatever the case may be, they cheer for Cena right now, so obviously WWE should take advantage of that. And if/when they stop, there will still be more kids who will continue to do so.
 
Here's my thing... If cena was to turn heel so what? He will still be a overrated SOB and he will still suck at wrestling.And most importantly i will still hate him with a passion.So whether cena is a heel or face it wouldnt make a damn difference
 
I have to agree with 1TheRockHH. Turning Cena heel, I fear, would give him even more TV time and main events, since WWE would try to force it on us that he's someone we can now be behind, simply based off of him turning heel.
 
So what do you want then? For him not to be pushed at all? Because if so, I suggest you stop watching WWE (or just Raw) and come back in about ten years. It baffles me why some of you would continue to whine and complain every week when you know that Cena isn't going anywhere, instead of maybe tuning into some wrestling that doesn't feature Cena.
 
I can bitch if I want. I've been watching WWE most of my life, and if I don't like someone, not you, your stupid crush on Cena or your stupid-ass sig can stop me.
Do I want Cena to stop being pushed? YUP. Just like I wanted Khali to stop being pushed when he was World Champ a few years ago.
Keep on BAAA-ing with the rest of the sheep that eat what ever WWE feeds them. I'll howl with the wolves.
 
Too funny when people make assumptions about posters they know nothing about. I don't eat whatever WWE feeds me, my man, but you can keep thinking that if you want. Back to the actual point of what I was saying, you have a right to express your opinion, I just don't see why you would continue to watch something that you know full well is going to be dominated by this guy that you hate so much. Khali was different because his push ended and now he's a midcarder. Cena's got at least a good six years left as a main eventer and possibly more, so I would get used to it real fast unless you want to spend the next six years complaining. If you do, that's your prerogative, but it's probably rather unhealthy.

This is destined to go in a circle if we continue, so instead of doing that: Do you have any legitimate reasoning why Cena should stop being pushed altogether, rather than just turned heel? I'm curious.
 
What's the alternative? A bunch of crap gymnasts, old men and diluted storylines, a.k.a. TNA or iMPACT or whatever they call themselves now?
I'm going to stick with the flagship federation, but I don't have to support the poster child, John Cena.
And I'll keep on booing and complaining for however long he stays on top, just like I'd keep on praising WWE for however long they'd put someone deserving, say Chris Jericho, on top.
 
Well I do agree with you that Miz has the potential to be a top babyface, but they also shouldn't rush it because then they'll fuck it up massively.
Yeah, I mentioned in another one of these threads that they could turn The Miz face in 1 year easily and convincingly, much less and it's going to hurt the process.
Here's my thing... If cena was to turn heel so what? He will still be a overrated SOB and he will still suck at wrestling.And most importantly i will still hate him with a passion.So whether cena is a heel or face it wouldnt make a damn difference
Cena doesn't suck at wrestling though. Cena's pretty damned good at wrestling. You can legitimately complain that you don't like his gimmick or the amount of air time he gets, or the pushes he gets, etc., but nothing you say or do is going to change the fact that Cena IS a good wrestler.

The whole argument of Cena being a bad wrestler is another one of those things about Cena that people just have dead wrong (along with Cena turning heel would be bad for business). The 5 moves of doom is nothing you haven't seen from all the greatest wrestlers the WWE has ever had, you've just watched Cena more.

I have to agree with 1TheRockHH. Turning Cena heel, I fear, would give him even more TV time and main events, since WWE would try to force it on us that he's someone we can now be behind, simply based off of him turning heel.

WWE will force everything that gets a big reaction. Sit on your hands, tape your mouth shut, and take a nap, that's what you should do when Cena's doing something. You boo him loud and clear and WWE pushes him as controversial, you cheer his opponents, and WWE thinks he brings out the best in his opponents. You do absolutely nothing, except to perhaps tell the people who are booing him around you to shut up and be a dead crowd, and Cena will wither and die fast. Anything other than a boycott will nurture a Cena push.

The more you talk about him on fan forums, the more he's going to get over. Ignore him, and he'll go away.
 
I had a long response to this written out, but my Firefox crashed and I'm not typing all that shit again, so I'll just hit the main bullet points.

First of all, your claims that Cena gets booed out of the building every week are ridiculously biased and not even close to being true. It's clear from listening objectively that he gets more cheers than boos nowadays, and your using the two most hostile crowds he's ever wrestled for as your examples only takes away the legitimacy of your argument. If you honestly think 95 percent of the fans are booing Cena, you need to get your hearing checked, because you might have a problem.

Really? B/c on most occasions, the crowd is either completely booing Cena or a heavily mixed reaction at best. And you wanted proof that the WWE Universe wants Cena to turn. If those two instances AREN'T valid examples of that to you, then it's clear you are biased to the obvious facts. When the crowd says they'll riot, call me crazy, but I think that's a damn good indication of how much fans hate him. And when I said 95% of the crowd booed Cena, it was the two instances I listed. However, these days it's again a complete hate for Cena or a mixed reaction at best. To claim he's getting a strong reaction everywhere he goes is a very laughable statement. So, if you believe that, then you must be buying into WWE's propaganda that Cena is never booed out of a building. I am somewhat of a Cena fan myself, but I'm not ignorant to the reaction he receives. Then again, I'm not stating he's over as a super face everywhere he wrestles.

Second, women and kids do represent a significant majority of the audience and the kids especially probably pour more money into it through their parents than adult males and teens. And you could claim Meltzer embellished the facts all you want, but I have yet to see you present anything resembling facts rather than your own assumptions that CM Punk and Mysterio would sell just as much. WWE can't run their business based on assumptions, they have to run it on facts.

No argument that kids and women are a large part of the WWE Universe. But, I do think it's laughable you say kids and women pour more money into WWE than adults and teens. Who's assuming now? That's nothing more than a guess, and a very flawed one at that. And no, I haven't used "sources" like you have to back my argument, but who's to say your "sources" are 100% accurate with their info? I pretty much have been stating my opinion based on what I know. Never once did I state anything as fact(contrary to you claiming to have legit facts). The bottom line is we all are speculating here, and don't know anything for sure.

Also, there are plenty of adult males and teens who DO like Cena. I'm one of them, and I know plenty. I also see plenty at WWE events. There are plenty who don't, that's a fact that I will readily admit, but you are seriously overestimating the percentage and it's not one that requires radical change. Internet fans are going to bitch no matter what so WWE shouldn't go out of their way to accommodate them too much more than they already have with Punk and Ryder and Christian and Bryan and every other internet darling that they've been pushing. If that's not good enough, then nothing ever will be.

So am I to some extent, but there's no doubt IMO that most fans wanna see Cena turn. The sheer fact that he's acknowledged that in his promos tells me that it is a fairly good assumption on my part. And for WWE to overlook that and ignore the fans is the reason that the ratings have continued to plummet. Granted, on Monday's they do have some stiff competition, but IMO the drops backs up them not listening to their fans prompts them to look elsewhere for entertainment. I'm overestimating the percentage? How so, when in most cases he's either booed out of the building or getting a heavily mixed reaction. So much so that the commentators feel they have to lie on commentary to hide the fact. If that isn't convincing enough an argument for you, then I think you are heavily biased on the subject.
 
Really? B/c on most occasions, the crowd is either completely booing Cena or a heavily mixed reaction at best.
Again, you're clearly wrong.

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The week before. AT LEAST 75% cheers.

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Listen and watch all those people standing up and cheering and tell me that's mostly boos. Please. I need a good laugh.

I could do this all day if I wanted to. I probably won't convince you, but at least I have a concrete and legitimate basis for what I consider to be pretty obvious.
And you wanted proof that the WWE Universe wants Cena to turn. If those two instances AREN'T valid examples of that to you, then it's clear you are biased to the obvious facts.
Yeah, I'm the one who's biased, when you're using a pro-ECW crowd for RVD and CM Punk's fucking hometown, which is also a notoriously smarky city by itself, as your two examples. Please find me a city that Cena's been to recently with a completely unbiased crowd where he got that kind of a negative reaction. I'm waiting.
When the crowd says they'll riot, call me crazy, but I think that's a damn good indication of how much fans hate him.
Have they ever rioted? No? Didn't think so. So clearly they don't hate him as much as you're saying. Next.
And when I said 95% of the crowd booed Cena, it was the two instances I listed. However, these days it's again a complete hate for Cena or a mixed reaction at best. To claim he's getting a strong reaction everywhere he goes is a very laughable statement. So, if you believe that, then you must be buying into WWE's propaganda that Cena is never booed out of a building. I am somewhat of a Cena fan myself, but I'm not ignorant to the reaction he receives. Then again, I'm not stating he's over as a super face everywhere he wrestles.
I never said the guy never got any boos, but you're the one revising things to your own liking. Of course he was going to booed by 95 percent of the crowds in those two arenas, they were the two most biased crowds he's wrestled in front of throughout his entire career. Again, give me examples of crowds who we didn't know going in that they were going to heavily favor the other guy and I'll maybe give this ridiculous argument some credence.
No argument that kids and women are a large part of the WWE Universe. But, I do think it's laughable you say kids and women pour more money into WWE than adults and teens. Who's assuming now? That's nothing more than a guess, and a very flawed one at that. And no, I haven't used "sources" like you have to back my argument, but who's to say your "sources" are 100% accurate with their info? I pretty much have been stating my opinion based on what I know. Never once did I state anything as fact(contrary to you claiming to have legit facts). The bottom line is we all are speculating here, and don't know anything for sure.
Let me ask you something. Do you still buy pay-per-views every month? Somehow I doubt it. And I could ask that question to every hater on this board, and most of them would say no. I could also ask you all how much WWE merchandise you buy per year, and it would probably be a relatively small amount, if any. On the other hand, you have kids who probably beg their parents to buy pay-per-views every month because they don't know they can get them for free online, and who beg their parents for John Cena merchandise because they aren't afraid to wear it out in public. Now, you could say that those are all assumptions, and you might be right. But I provided factual information about Cena being one of the top sellers of all time and you refuse to believe it. So, if you're going to not believe the facts, then obviously I'm going to continue making assumptions. I, on the other hand, would believe it if you told me that a legitimate wrestling journalist reported that CM Punk has sold more t-shirts than Cena, or something like that. Because I take reports at face value and don't develop cynical opinions on them to suit my arguments.
So am I to some extent, but there's no doubt IMO that most fans wanna see Cena turn. The sheer fact that he's acknowledged that in his promos tells me that it is a fairly good assumption on my part.
That whole storyline is doing nothing but pandering to the internet smarks, who by the way, don't make up the entire WWE audience, or the majority, or even anything close to the majority. Yes, a lot of internet smarks want Cena to turn heel. That doesn't mean that everyone does, or "most people" do. Cena still clearly has a lot of fans, as you can tell from looking at Facebook, Twitter, or objectively listening to the reactions he gets every week, which clearly you don't do.
And for WWE to overlook that and ignore the fans is the reason that the ratings have continued to plummet. Granted, on Monday's they do have some stiff competition, but IMO the drops backs up them not listening to their fans prompts them to look elsewhere for entertainment. I'm overestimating the percentage? How so, when in most cases he's either booed out of the building or getting a heavily mixed reaction. So much so that the commentators feel they have to lie on commentary to hide the fact. If that isn't convincing enough an argument for you, then I think you are heavily biased on the subject.
They have a whole storyline going on where they have this guy working for change and saying things that please the same people who want Cena to turn. They've been doing nothing but pushing internet darlings for the entire year. They gave Christian two world titles and made him the top heel on SmackDown for months. They give Ryder TV time every week now. They gave Bryan the Money in the Bank and a world title match at WrestleMania. The fans you're talking about who want Cena to turn aren't going to be satisfied with anything, so WWE might as well leave him how he is to continue to satisfy the millions (AND MILLIONS!) of people who tune in to see him every week. And if you honestly think Cena being a face is a bigger factor, or even just as big a factor, in WWE losing ratings as Monday Night Football, I think you need a reality check on what's popular in today's society and what's not as popular.
 
The Champ, it's odd that you call people who don't like Cena "biased" all the while trying to maintain credibility and the facade of you being completely objective. The fact that, how did you say it, "the millions (AND MILLIONS)" of people like him shows that millions (AND MILLIONS) of people are biased, since having an affinity for something is the same as being biased toward something.
 
I am biased, but I also actually listen to the crowd reactions instead of trying to make them something that they're clearly not. I admit to the fact that Cena gets boos and I admit to the fact that there is a sizable amount of people who are sick of him. I don't, however, think that it's greater than the people who still love him, nor anywhere close. If it got to the point where Cena wasn't getting cheers anymore and even the casuals started getting sick of him, WWE would do something about it. Right now, they're appealing to every audience by continuing to push Cena while pushing internet darlings at the same time. Which I would think is a good strategy when you're trying to maintain all your fans, and not just some of them.
 
The Champ, it's odd that you call people who don't like Cena "biased" all the while trying to maintain credibility and the facade of you being completely objective. The fact that, how did you say it, "the millions (AND MILLIONS)" of people like him shows that millions (AND MILLIONS) of people are biased, since having an affinity for something is the same as being biased toward something.

That is pretty much my issue with The Champ. He's clearly a Cena mark to the point of being biased against facts. Ironically enough, he then claims anyone who disagrees with him is biased. If you've seen any RAW or PPV since 2006, then you know that fans have been wanting Cena to turn for 5 years now. At most, Cena gets a mixed reaction, and that hardly constitutes getting more cheers than boos. Mixed reactions means half the crowd likes you, half the crowd hates you. For some reason though, you don't consider that as being objective? Wow, if actually hearing the reaction he's getting and acknowledging it isn't objective, then what is? I also like how you ignored my point about the commentators blatantly lying about his reactions. Again, it seems to me that I'm not the one being blinded by love for a wrestler.

I also consider it laughable for you to claim those vids you posted somehow cements your opinion as fact. Far from it, it only shows you love Cena to the point of distorting facts so it looks like you understand the wrestling business. I actually buy PPV's and merch as much as any fan of WWE, so using that as a point to claim I don't get it is an invalid attempt to establish yourself as some kind of expert here.

One last thing, you keep saying that the smark audience doesn't make up as much of the WWE Universe as the kids and women. Then, you say WWE specifically panders to us smarks by catering their storylines to us. So, if that were the case, then why pander your TV around a so called "minority" of the WWE Universe. Sounds to me like your statements tend to contradict themselves. Of course, hypocrites are usual jaded when it comes to admitting the truth. And the larger truth here is that most fans wanna see Cena turn, but for whatever reason, WWE is deadset against it. Like it would be the end of all merchandise sales or PPV buyrates(which is a laughable and ******ed suggestion). I personally think it would invigorate Cena's career and allow him to recapture some of his former fans. As a Cena fan doing a heel turn after 7 years seems like a natural progression for his character and what is right for business.
 
That is pretty much my issue with The Champ. He's clearly a Cena mark to the point of being biased against facts. Ironically enough, he then claims anyone who disagrees with him is biased. If you've seen any RAW or PPV since 2006, then you know that fans have been wanting Cena to turn for 5 years now. At most, Cena gets a mixed reaction, and that hardly constitutes getting more cheers than boos. Mixed reactions means half the crowd likes you, half the crowd hates you. For some reason though, you don't consider that as being objective? Wow, if actually hearing the reaction he's getting and acknowledging it isn't objective, then what is? I also like how you ignored my point about the commentators blatantly lying about his reactions. Again, it seems to me that I'm not the one being blinded by love for a wrestler.
How am I biased against facts when you haven't provided any? I provided video evidence that Cena does not get more boos than cheers and you won't address them, instead choosing to repeat the same exact things over and over. I admitted several times that not everyone in the crowd likes him, but apparently that isn't good enough for you, so you can go ahead and keep talking to yourself. Also, the commentators always say that Cena is controversial and gets mixed reactions. That is not a lie.
I also consider it laughable for you to claim those vids you posted somehow cements your opinion as fact. Far from it, it only shows you love Cena to the point of distorting facts so it looks like you understand the wrestling business. I actually buy PPV's and merch as much as any fan of WWE, so using that as a point to claim I don't get it is an invalid attempt to establish yourself as some kind of expert here.
Actually, what it shows is that I have ears, and you haven't addressed the videos, instead choosing to make this debate about me instead of about Cena. If you continue to resort to this ridiculousness instead of actually talking about and responding to what I said, this will be the last time I waste my time responding to you. I also never claimed to be any kind of expert, just someone who understands how wrestling works. Moving right along...
One last thing, you keep saying that the smark audience doesn't make up as much of the WWE Universe as the kids and women. Then, you say WWE specifically panders to us smarks by catering their storylines to us. So, if that were the case, then why pander your TV around a so called "minority" of the WWE Universe. Sounds to me like your statements tend to contradict themselves. Of course, hypocrites are usual jaded when it comes to admitting the truth. And the larger truth here is that most fans wanna see Cena turn, but for whatever reason, WWE is deadset against it. Like it would be the end of all merchandise sales or PPV buyrates(which is a laughable and ******ed suggestion). I personally think it would invigorate Cena's career and allow him to recapture some of his former fans. As a Cena fan doing a heel turn after 7 years seems like a natural progression for his character and what is right for business.
Actually, nothing I said contradicted myself. WWE appeals to their entire audience instead of JUST the majority. They don't tailor EVERY storyline to the internet, they tailor some. And they tailor others, such as Cena vs. Del Rio and Orton vs. Henry, to the general audience. I would think that a business would want to attract as many potential consumers as possible instead of just focusing on one group. WWE does plenty of things to please the internet without sacrificing what they do to please the "casuals." I see no reason why we can't have a co-existence of both.
 
How am I biased against facts when you haven't provided any? I provided video evidence that Cena does not get more boos than cheers and you won't address them, instead choosing to repeat the same exact things over and over. I admitted several times that not everyone in the crowd likes him, but apparently that isn't good enough for you, so you can go ahead and keep talking to yourself. Also, the commentators always say that Cena is controversial and gets mixed reactions. That is not a lie.

You're biased b/c you are admittedly a Cena mark who refuses to listen to any logic but you're own. Then, you claim you have "provided video evidence", when really all you've done is prove how far you'll go to distort facts. You keep claiming he gets more cheers than boos, when any RAW or PPV proves conclusively that isn't the case. Just b/c I don't wanna spend useless time to post vids or "sources" who are "experts" doesn't mean I don't understand wrestling. Besides, it's clear using logic is a lost cause for you, b/c Cena is super over everywhere according to you. So what's the point? As for the commentators, in most cases, they say he is either getting a standing ovation(which is a lie flat out)or a mixed reaction(which is more appropriate).

Actually, what it shows is that I have ears, and you haven't addressed the videos, instead choosing to make this debate about me instead of about Cena. If you continue to resort to this ridiculousness instead of actually talking about and responding to what I said, this will be the last time I waste my time responding to you. I also never claimed to be any kind of expert, just someone who understands how wrestling works. Moving right along...

Again, I think it's ironic you claim to be objective, when you dismiss my valid points simply since I haven't linked up vids. Sorry, not gonna waste time b/c it's clear we'll have to agree to disagree here. I have responded specifically to each point you have made, but I haven't spend enourmous amounts of time to do it. Apparently, you think you're opinion is an undisputable fact and not an individual opinion. While I think you have raised some good points, I simply don't agree with where you're coming from. How is that any more ridiculous than trying to pass your opinion off as fact?

Actually, nothing I said contradicted myself. WWE appeals to their entire audience instead of JUST the majority. They don't tailor EVERY storyline to the internet, they tailor some. And they tailor others, such as Cena vs. Del Rio and Orton vs. Henry, to the general audience. I would think that a business would want to attract as many potential consumers as possible instead of just focusing on one group. WWE does plenty of things to please the internet without sacrificing what they do to please the "casuals." I see no reason why we can't have a co-existence of both.

Actually, you said smarks aren't a majority of the WWE Universe. Then, you claimed the whole CM Punk storyline was catered to the smarks. So, by your own remarks and logic, that means the kids and women are more important than adults or teens. Which is laughable, since I'd say smarks are definately a majority of the loyal WWE fans. The fact that everyone is here discussing that IMO proves my conclusion.

While I agree there can be a co-existence of both, the issue is Cena turning. If he doesn't turn, it's ignoring a large part of the audience. Which is effectively saying it doesn't matter what the average fan wants as long as the kids and women are happy. Not exactly a balanced "co-existence" if you ask me. One guy's opinion though, obviously not all see eye to eye here. Suits me though, cause you can't change ppl's opinion or agree all the time. A fact of life, so get over it already.
 
Honestly dude, I feel like if you're already watching wrestling in the first place, there's nothing else to really be ashamed of.

As long as it keeps making money and he stays healthy. That's how long it can be. I understand that some people are sick of him, but keep in mind that people like Rock and Austin had shorter runs due to circumstances out of WWE's control. You better believe that they would have both been on top for more years if Austin hadn't had injuries/walked out and Rock hadn't become a movie star. And people would be getting sick of those guys after another couple of years too.

In fact, a friend of mine showed me a wrestling forum archive once from the early 2000's where people were saying that Rock and Austin were stale and that they should push Jericho over them. I don't have the link, but it sure as hell sounds like the same shit that I'm seeing nowadays. WWE is always going to push the guys who are going to make them more money, no matter how "stale" it may be perceived to be by a few internet marks. Because the people who are responsible for more of their income still love Cena, and at the end of the day that's what matters to them.

Oh wow a wrestling forum archive from 11 years ago. Really that's what your basing your statement on? Show me the footage of Rock and Austin being boo'd by half the audience week in and week out while they were the biggest babyfaces of the company. They were loved by allllll I watched the Rock dvd the other day and the amount of adults and older people going crazy for him is ridiculous. Cena is boo'd for a reason because unless you're a woman, little jimmy or a Cena mark most people are sick of him doing the same thing for so long. You can't honestly say it would be a huge deal and be far more interesting than him continuing as a face. They should do it soon and could really do something amazing with it.
 
Uh, Rock and Austin didn't get booed because they were allowed to do things that Cena is not allowed to do. Don't see how that's a strike against Cena. That era spoiled the fans and now some of them are not going to cheer a babyface who actually does the right thing, which is completely ridiculous. And let's not forget that Austin and Rock were on top for shorter amounts of time than Cena has been, and that WWE would have continued pushing them had they not left for reasons out of WWE's control. Also, "Cena gets booed by everyone except women, kids, and Cena marks" is your argument? So in other words, Cena gets booed by people who don't like Cena. No shit, sherlock. That doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of women, kids, and "marks" who still enjoy what he does. I'm not sure if I'm forgetting something, but I must have missed this memo that all of you seem to have gotten that Cena marks are inferior as fans and people to the Cena haters.
 
Turning John Cena heel and "ruining the fun" form the kids is like kids finding out there's no Santa Clause... They've gotta grow up some time.

(That in mind, I'm generally against the idea of lying to kids in the first place about anything that's not real: Santa, magic, superheros (wrestlers) or even wrestling itself.)
 
Except that John Cena is a tangible person rather than a completely fictitious person. He plays a character, sure, but it's not comparable because Cena himself is real. So Cena can stay face as long as they want him to and the kids don't have to "grow up" because they can see Cena each and every week, whereas Santa only exists in their imaginations and in movies.

Plus, parents telling their kids that Santa isn't real actually saves them money, because their kids' expectations for gifts become more realistic. Whereas WWE telling the kids that Cena isn't real will lose them money in merchandise sales.
 
John Cena will not turn heel because there's really no reason for him to turn heel.

"His gimmick is stale" is a reason being thrown around on wrestling forums of why he has to change his character. Well, his gimmick is not stale to his core fanbase, and that is enough to keep him a face. Also, fans are still hugely invested in his matches and storylines, crowds are usually the most into his matches, and the fans are still paying money to boo him, so why turn him heel?

Besides, right now alot of the older fans hate him, but if he turned heel, alot of them would like him. In turn, the kids would'nt like him, and it would be the complete opposite of what we have now. Also, there's the Make A Wish Foundation and other charities Cena is involved in, and the kids really look up to him as a hero. To see their hero turn their back on them would leave alot of kids sad and angry at their once hero.

His merchandise is still selling out, fans still pay money to cheer (or boo) him, and he get's a reaction every single night. The day the kids start to boo him, is probably the day he turns heel. And that won't ever happen because as more kids grow up, more will come in.

Sure, the older fans can continue to boo him and be against him, but unless their paying 80 dollars a ticket, and 40 dollars a PPV, to root against him and boo him, than it's no loss to WWE.
 
Why John Cena should turn heel: article mentions some very interesting points

The wrestling community has been speculating (and hoping) for a John Cena heel turn for a while now.

There have been two occasions over the past year where it looked to be set up perfectly for it. The first one was when he was forced to join the Nexus last year and the other being his recent feud with CM Punk.

However, the WWE decided against turning the face of the company in to a heel on both occasions.

So, why is it important for John Cena to turn heel?

1) Will shock the wrestling world

Although many people want it to happen and even speculate it at times, no one really expects it to happen.

The WWE have kept well clear of turning Cena heel, probably due to the reaction of the younger generation of fans.

They have turned their star man in to a heel in the past when Stone Cold Steve Austin did so in 2001. It was a risky move but they went through with it. Doing the same with Cena will no doubt be risky move but I think it will be a risk that will pay off big time.

2) Better promos

For those of you that may not know, Cena was a heel when he first started out in the WWE.

During that time, he would insult fellow superstars and fans in the form of rap. They were on the edge type promos and that is what made him so popular because it was something different and edgy. The support he received from the WWE universe eventually turned him face.

That looks to have been a mistake as since turning face his promos have been the exact opposite, consisting of kid friendly jokes and have become predictable.

He did return to his old rapping gimmick for one night only before WrestleMania when talking about the Rock. That night, the older generation of fans that loudly chant “Cena sucks” ended up cheering him, simply because it’s the Cena they want to see.

3) Freshens up the character

Every character needs a fresh look and attitude every so often. Cena has been the same character for the past 7 years and it’s been stale for a while now.

The wrestling world are tired of seeing the same Cena character in the main event month after month.

Obviously, Cena is going to be in the main event picture on a regular basis and I don’t really have an issue with that. However, a new Cena character in the main event would make a nice change and would feel like a fresh guy in the main event, which brings me to my next two points.

4) Begins new rivalries

Having Cena become a heel means the potential to see fresh match ups with guys he hasn’t had major feuds with.

The likes of Kofi Kingston, John Morrison, Evan Bourne and Daniel Bryan would be great rivalries. They are all new rivalries we haven’t seen before, will help elevate the status of the competitors listed and will bring home Cena’s heel character with all of them being popular with the WWE universe.

5) Re-creates old rivalries with a new twist

Old feuds could resurface but with different scenarios and twists.

Three big feuds come to my mind straight away.

The first two are Rey Mysterio and The Undertaker. Cena hasn’t feuded with these guys since 2003 and he is a much bigger star now than he was back then. He has now proved himself and is at the top of the company. Seeing Cena vs Rey and Cena vs Taker would feel refreshing and new as they haven’t taken place in 8 years.

The other one is Cena vs Orton. I know it is a feud a lot of people are tired of seeing but let me explain.Every time they have feuded in the past Cena has been the super hero babyface while Orton the heel. Having the roles reversed is the only thing that could make the feud different and intriguing. And lets face it; they always steal the show when they face each other. So, a Cena/Orton rivalry isn’t a bad thing, as long as there is a new twist.

6) Would get unbelievable heat

The older generation hate him so much now; he already gets more heat than most of the heels. Add that with the reaction of the younger fans when their hero turns on them and you have the potential to receive the biggest heat towards any superstar in history.

The one flaw is if the older fans start cheering the new Cena character. The WWE would have to make sure to stick with it though and not change his character back to the old Cena, like they have done with Randy Orton.

7) Makes Cena vs Rock more compelling

Finally (pun intended), it makes the Cena/Rock WrestleMania match much more electrifying (again, pun intended).

The match is highly anticipated but with the Rock not appearing a lot on WWE television, its’s hard to keep the momentum building.

Cena turning heel will freshen up the angle and the feud can kick on. As I said earlier, Cena cutting his old school rap promo towards the Rock earlier this year wet everyone’s appetite for a Cena/Rock feud.

Plus, WrestleMania 28 takes place in Miami, Florida, the Rock’s home town. Cena will be getting a huge negative reaction as it is. Now, imagine the reaction Cena will get being a heel insulting Rock and Miami.

WrestleMania 28; heel Cena vs the Rock: the greatest match in WrestleMania history?
 

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