Vote To Legalize Marijuana

I smoke cigarettes and have never had cancer. Oh my God, cigarettes do not cause Cancer!!

That was just a idiotic statement made. What about the hundreds of thousand of people who got cancer from smoking cigarettes. Just because you don't have cancer now doesn't mean that you won't get it in the future from smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes have still caused more harm to people than Hitler. Which is a fact.

Nate was being sarcastic you fucking moron. Marijuana may not directly cause any deaths but it has roughly the same affect on the body as alcohol so when you go driving around after a heavy night of pot smoking, you have a high risk of wrecking and killing yourself and/or someone else.
 
The topic isn't about me though. You still don't have an opinion about the topic since it was me who posted you just figured you bash it since you already don't like me.
End your fucking self-pity party around here. I didn't start off not liking you when you came to the forums, sight unseen. I saw what you had to say, realized you were a fucking twit with your cop posts, and then got really sick of the act once you threw your little temper tantrum for being placed in time-out here.

I've already posted exactly what I think about marijuana legalization. You rushed right past it in an urge to tell us all your opinion again. Since then, the topic has changed, as it got boring and repetitive. (No one wants to read your links, considering that they think the person who is posting them is a fuckwit.) The topic now is "how much of a fuckwit is Todd?"

Which I think I have answered.
 
Sarcastic or not it was still a idiotic statement that was made. Marijuana has no where close to the same affects on the body,you can't even compare the two.Your a idiot for just making that comparison. Drinking can change a person's personality for the worse. Drinking can make you a bitter angry person when pot has the opposite effect. You don't hear to often about a guy coming around and beating up his wife because he got too stoned that often,but you see a lot of guys who beat their wives when their drunk. Drinking will slowly rot away your body unlike marijuana.

Even with driving it is completely different, the caused by driving by marijuana is a very small number compared to driving under the influence of alcohol. I'm not saying that everyone should go out joy riding when your high but for some people pot will only make the person's driving better. It helps relax them and make them more aware of what is going around them. You can even tie those accidents related to marijuana being illegal.

Some people normally pot smokers under the age of 18 will get together and smoke when they drive. Most cases they are only smoking while driving in their car because they have no other place to do it. They can't do it in there house because of the parents so instead they go out for a joy ride. Which is also one of the reasons I don't think that you really start smoking pot until your at least 18.
 
I'm not saying that everyone should go out joy riding when your high but for some people pot will only make the person's driving better. It helps relax them and make them more aware of what is going around them.
Either you are the greatest troll that this board has ever had, or quite possibly the biggest moron this board has ever had.

I've been smoking pot since you were in short pants. I've not once felt more aware because of it. Less aware? Almost every time I smoke pot. More aware? Not once.

Shit like this is why people don't want you promoting their cause. In anything. You make the rest of us marijuana smokers look like idiots by association.
 
That's also because you are also one of the most close minded people to begin with. Smoking pot makes you more aware of what's going around around you. It help expands you mind and makes people more creative.

To answer your previous post I won't shut up until marijuana is legal across the world. So what your saying is that you didn't like a previous post that I did and being put in hear for unfair reasons was to just go against me regardless of what I had to say. What was wrong with my cop threads did the truth offend you too much.
 
That's also because you are also one of the most close minded people to begin with. Smoking pot makes you more aware of what's going around around you. It help expands you mind and makes people more creative.

To answer your previous post I won't shut up until marijuana is legal across the world. So what your saying is that you didn't like a previous post that I did and being put in hear for unfair reasons was to just go against me regardless of what I had to say. What was wrong with my cop threads did the truth offend you too much.
First, I'm not exactly worried about being called close-minded by you. Like most self-professed activists, you only view people as close-minded when they disagree with you. I have a low tolerance for bullshit. There's a few light-years of difference there.

Second, no, it doesn't. It makes people who are high think they are more creative, but as someone who produces art for a living and smokes marijuana, I can tell you that my best work comes when I'm sober.

Third, the world definitely does not want you fighting its causes for it. Unless you want to go to war and die for it, in which case, go to town! But there are more than enough people who flap their gums without actually doing anything; we don't need any more.

Fourth, you weren't put in here for 'unfair' reasons. You were put in here because you were an annoying, exasperating little prick that no one wanted to deal with in the public forums.

Fifth, I know you have a self-entitlement complex, but this is a private board. You are afforded no guarantee that you will feel all decisions are fair, and, as has been stated SEVERAL times, if you don't feel you're being treated fairly around here, you can leave and go to other boards. Considering people here universally shit on or ignore you, I'm surprised you haven't done this yet.

Sixth, I don't 'go against you' just because you were an idiot in one thread. I 'go against you' because you are an idiot in all of your threads. Post something intelligent, I'll give you that credit you so desperately crave.

Seventh, considering that you've had such trouble with terms like "facts" and "quote", it's not surprising that "truth" eludes you as well.


Anything else?
 
You haven't quoted me yet. You may feature what I said in a previous post but your say is mostly just saying things I didn't say and making random assumption about me.

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You seem like you get enjoyment at of knocking me down. All you do is ignore everything i say and can't say anything intelligent because all you do is throw insults out. I view people as close minded when all you do is when you don't agree with someone is insult them or put words in their mouth to make yourself look better.

Marijuana makes people very creative just because you don't feel creative after smoking it doesn't mean it's not the same for the rest of the world. That can also be to you being a close minded person. I may not make art for a living like you say you do but still have sold a lot of my work at several different art shows I was apart of t I'm a artist in a fields of art and I come up with my best ideas high. Not only do I feel more creative from it some of the greatest artist in the world smoke pot to enhance their creativity by smoking pot.

I don't need you guys to help my cause because this forum is a small number compared to the pot smokers in the world. Now that the election is over I'm going to start writing letters to the federal government talking about my cause and getting marijuana legal. I know you like to think I’m just some lone nut case that does nothing but talk on web forums but like everything else you say about me your wrong with that as well.
 
I like how you use words you don't really know.

Also, you're no HEELKris. Now that's a good (for nothing) troll you should look up to.
 
You seem like you get enjoyment at of knocking me down. All you do is ignore everything i say and can't say anything intelligent because all you do is throw insults out. I view people as close minded when all you do is when you don't agree with someone is insult them or put words in their mouth to make yourself look better.
I've tried intelligent debate with you. You aren't capable of it. The problem we're having is that you think you are debating intelligently, yet your strategy comes down to "here are my links, now you have to read them all, and if you disagree, I'll repeat myself."

That gets boring, so I'm practicing my dozens instead.
Todd said:
Marijuana makes people very creative just because you don't feel creative after smoking it doesn't mean it's not the same for the rest of the world. That can also be to you being a close minded person. I may not make art for a living like you say you do but still have sold a lot of my work at several different art shows I was apart of t I'm a artist in a fields of art and I come up with my best ideas high. Not only do I feel more creative from it some of the greatest artist in the world smoke pot to enhance their creativity by smoking pot.
Cool story, bro. You know they run those events as charity, right? Buy a painting from a guy with downs syndrome, and the money goes to help pay for his medical care.

And, again, really not concerned about being called close-minded by you. I am, after all, talking to a person who believes I should be tortured because I don't agree with his vegetarianism.
Todd said:
I don't need you guys to help my cause because this forum is a small number compared to the pot smokers in the world. Now that the election is over I'm going to start writing letters to the federal government talking about my cause and getting marijuana legal. I know you like to think I’m just some lone nut case that does nothing but talk on web forums but like everything else you say about me your wrong with that as well.
First- if you don't need us to help your cause (here we go again, hunting for credit), why the fuck are you still here????? It should be obvious, even to you, that you are having absolutely zero success in getting across your message.

Second, of course, nutcases never send letters to "the federal government". (Your authority complex is showing. Most people would send letters to their senator, or their representative, not "the man".) Let me know how that letter works out where you tell your senator to vote for legalization because it makes people better drivers and more aware of their surroundings. Make sure to include your google search links!
 
Sarcastic or not it was still a idiotic statement that was made. Marijuana has no where close to the same affects on the body,you can't even compare the two.Your a idiot for just making that comparison. Drinking can change a person's personality for the worse. Drinking can make you a bitter angry person when pot has the opposite effect. You don't hear to often about a guy coming around and beating up his wife because he got too stoned that often,but you see a lot of guys who beat their wives when their drunk. Drinking will slowly rot away your body unlike marijuana.

Even with driving it is completely different, the caused by driving by marijuana is a very small number compared to driving under the influence of alcohol. I'm not saying that everyone should go out joy riding when your high but for some people pot will only make the person's driving better. It helps relax them and make them more aware of what is going around them. You can even tie those accidents related to marijuana being illegal.

Some people normally pot smokers under the age of 18 will get together and smoke when they drive. Most cases they are only smoking while driving in their car because they have no other place to do it. They can't do it in there house because of the parents so instead they go out for a joy ride. Which is also one of the reasons I don't think that you really start smoking pot until your at least 18.

So it doesn't make you feel the least bit drunk? I know plenty of pot smokers that say the exact opposite of what you just told me the only difference is it doesn't produce the massive headache the morning after. When it comes to personality changes it all depends on the personality of the person drinking. My dad is hilarious when he's drunk unless he's watching his football team lose. He then gets mad but doesn't beat anybody. He just rants and raves about how sucky his team is for losing. Smoking pot makes you feel like your drunk and it also produces hallucinations if you smoke too much of it. It's the equivilent of drinking way too much. You're the idiot who obviously pulls everything you say out of your ass. You actually have no fucking clue what you're talking about because you smoke way too much pot on a daily basis and it's killed off the majority of your braincells. Much like alcohol does. How about that. Dumbass.
 
I don't need you guys to help my cause

The fact that you made a thread titled "Vote To Legalize Marijuana" says otherwise.

Now that the election is over I'm going to start writing letters to the federal government talking about my cause and getting marijuana legal.

If you're letters look anything like your posts in this thread than I think you just set "your cause" back at least 20 yrs.

I like how you insult people over them talking about topic that you know nothing about.

I like how you talk about a topic you actually no nothing about.
 
So it doesn't make you feel the least bit drunk? I know plenty of pot smokers that say the exact opposite of what you just told me the only difference is it doesn't produce the massive headache the morning after. When it comes to personality changes it all depends on the personality of the person drinking. My dad is hilarious when he's drunk unless he's watching his football team lose. He then gets mad but doesn't beat anybody. He just rants and raves about how sucky his team is for losing. Smoking pot makes you feel like your drunk and it also produces hallucinations if you smoke too much of it. It's the equivilent of drinking way too much. You're the idiot who obviously pulls everything you say out of your ass. You actually have no fucking clue what you're talking about because you smoke way too much pot on a daily basis and it's killed off the majority of your braincells. Much like alcohol does. How about that. Dumbass.
I hope I can be a little objective on this discussion, since I don't view marijuana as this miracle drug which can cure cancer and give you a four-hour erection. (Shut the fuck up, Todd, I'm done discussing pot with you, although I will happily keep insulting you.)

I've never felt 'drunk' while smoking marijuana. While newer smokers may experience light hallucinations if they smoke in large concentrations, I've never had anything more than a fascination for Christmas lights strung up in a college dorm room. Alcohol usually encourages outgoing behavior, while marijuana is an inhibitor. It causes a lack of focus and difficulty in thought comprehension. (Like people reading this dreck couldn't figure that out.) While there is a reduction in motor control with marijuana, it is nowhere near as pronounced as that of alcohol. As far as positive effects, well, marijuana does seem to create an interest in the music of Pink Floyd.

In some people, consumption of marijuana turns them into a self-righteous douchebag who no one wants to deal with. We call these "college know-it-all stoners", and they are probably the worst kind. (In this case, I'd guess high school dropout know-it-all stoner.) This effect is still not entirely medically understood, due to the lack of research on the physical and mental effects of marijuana, but it could just exacerbate a pre-existing condition of douchebagedness.

All in all, it's a habit I'm not entirely proud of, but it's my habit, and it's no one else's business what I choose to do privately, which is why I support decriminalization as opposed to legalization. (Decriminalization reduces the penalties for possession to a civil offense, akin to a traffic ticket.) I don't feel that we (speaking in the society sense) should be encouraging the use of marijuana, which is the end result when you legalize it. People in a position to profit from marijuana sales will encourage its use and make it an advertised commodity. If you don't believe that, think on how large the alcohol and tobacco industries are. (A major, if often overlooked factor in the end of Prohibition and the resulting commercialization of alcohol was that people were dying as the result of poorly distilled illegal liquor- not a factor in the production of marijuana.)
 
Rayne said:
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So it doesn't make you feel the least bit drunk? I know plenty of pot smokers that say the exact opposite of what you just told me the only difference is it doesn't produce the massive headache the morning after. When it comes to personality changes it all depends on the personality of the person drinking. My dad is hilarious when he's drunk unless he's watching his football team lose. He then gets mad but doesn't beat anybody. He just rants and raves about how sucky his team is for losing. Smoking pot makes you feel like your drunk and it also produces hallucinations if you smoke too much of it. It's the equivilent of drinking way too much. You're the idiot who obviously pulls everything you say out of your ass. You actually have no fucking clue what you're talking about because you smoke way too much pot on a daily basis and it's killed off the majority of your braincells. Much like alcohol does. How about that. Dumbass.

I hope I can be a little objective on this discussion, since I don't view marijuana as this miracle drug which can cure cancer and give you a four-hour erection. (Shut the fuck up, Todd, I'm done discussing pot with you, although I will happily keep insulting you.)

I've never felt 'drunk' while smoking marijuana. While newer smokers may experience light hallucinations if they smoke in large concentrations, I've never had anything more than a fascination for Christmas lights strung up in a college dorm room. Alcohol usually encourages outgoing behavior, while marijuana is an inhibitor. It causes a lack of focus and difficulty in thought comprehension. (Like people reading this dreck couldn't figure that out.) While there is a reduction in motor control with marijuana, it is nowhere near as pronounced as that of alcohol. As far as positive effects, well, marijuana does seem to create an interest in the music of Pink Floyd.

In some people, consumption of marijuana turns them into a self-righteous douchebag who no one wants to deal with. We call these "college know-it-all stoners", and they are probably the worst kind. (In this case, I'd guess high school dropout know-it-all stoner.) This effect is still not entirely medically understood, due to the lack of research on the physical and mental effects of marijuana, but it could just exacerbate a pre-existing condition of douchebagedness.

All in all, it's a habit I'm not entirely proud of, but it's my habit, and it's no one else's business what I choose to do privately, which is why I support decriminalization as opposed to legalization. (Decriminalization reduces the penalties for possession to a civil offense, akin to a traffic ticket.) I don't feel that we (speaking in the society sense) should be encouraging the use of marijuana, which is the end result when you legalize it. People in a position to profit from marijuana sales will encourage its use and make it an advertised commodity. If you don't believe that, think on how large the alcohol and tobacco industries are. (A major, if often overlooked factor in the end of Prohibition and the resulting commercialization of alcohol was that people were dying as the result of poorly distilled illegal liquor- not a factor in the production of marijuana.)

Thank you for your objectivity instead of being an ass. I don't smoke pot so I was just going off of what I've been told by my pot smoking friends. I agree with decriminalizing it. I don't care if people smoke it or not I don't the problem with it. I just don't want to spend the money to try it.


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Rayne
I only repeat myself because you have to create arguments over the dumbest things. My strategy is way more than just links. When your trying to get your point across it is good to post multiple sources so you can know that it is just not me talking about the benefits from marijuana and the whole world is starting to finally wake up. When I give proof you wrong about marijuana not making people creative you throw another insult since that is all your good for is just insulting people to get your point across. I never said that you should be tortured because you don't agree with being vegetarian(what you do best putting in my mouth)I said that you should be tortured because of the way you attacked me for being against animal cruelty. I'm also writing to my state senator as well. There’s numerous people to write to regarding that topic. At least I’m doing something about it

That's the bottom line

Stop comparing marijuana to alcohol because marijuana will always win when it comes to which is safer. Marijuana gives you a completely different feeling I should know I've been drunk before(which I regret doing) and I have been high before and I can tell you all the differences. There has never been a night where I smoke a bunch of pot went to bed and when I woke up I couldn't produce any memories of what happened the night before(Drinking will do that to you). You mention how alcohol will give you a hang over too but a little bit of weed is also a good cure for a hangover. Smoking weed will make you a peaceful person drinking will have the opposite effect on you. You always hear about a guy getting drunk at a bar and starting a fight. Again stop comparing weed to alcohol because they are two completely different things and alcohol is way worse to body and could kill from drinking a long time(unlike marijuana).
 
That's the bottom line

Stop comparing marijuana to alcohol because marijuana will always win when it comes to which is safer. Marijuana gives you a completely different feeling I should know I've been drunk before(which I regret doing) and I have been high before and I can tell you all the differences. There has never been a night where I smoke a bunch of pot went to bed and when I woke up I couldn't produce any memories of what happened the night before(Drinking will do that to you). You mention how alcohol will give you a hang over too but a little bit of weed is also a good cure for a hangover. Smoking weed will make you a peaceful person drinking will have the opposite effect on you. You always hear about a guy getting drunk at a bar and starting a fight. Again stop comparing weed to alcohol because they are two completely different things and alcohol is way worse to body and could kill from drinking a long time(unlike marijuana).

:lmao:You act as if I had said they were the same thing. I know there is a difference between the two but they are similar in how they affect the brain. They both kill brain cells after heavy usage, which you seem to be suffering from.
 

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