Vote To Legalize Marijuana
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Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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Well she should be pissed off at what her Senator said this is a guy who clearly doesn't care about the people of Idaho. He would rather see them dead than alive and healthy. At least she is doing something about it unlike clueless the idiots like yourself who choose not to care.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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Oh Todd, you so crazy!
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you.
How does that make me crazy?
Tell your opinion on how you feel about keeping marijuana illegal even for medical use after all the proven health benefits it provides.
The only people who are crazy is Chuck Winder and you.
Todd, buddy, you keep demanding that I answer your questions, and I keep reminding you, we can't go any farther until you stop being the one guy who's able to declare what THE TRUTH is.
The reason why we need a third party is because there is an ongoing dispute as to what a fact is. In debate, when the two parties are unable to come to an agreement as to pre-stipulated (look it up) facts, they engage a third party, neutral to both participants in the debate, who looks over the information provided and determines what's more likely to be truthful.
We've tried doing this with the rest of the posters here, but you insist that the problem isn't you, it has to be everyone else on the board, so now we're looking for third parties from other sites.
Until we engage a third party, you can keep telling yourself that you're 'right' via your endless capacity to go "nuh uh, nuh uh, nuh uh!", and I've really no further interest in that.
So let me know if you ever find your balls, but I suspect you're either going to make a grand deal about how you don't have to (whatever), or you'll find a bush league poster to play with and ignore the heavyweight beating you've been taking.
The reason why we need a third party is because there is an ongoing dispute as to what a fact is. In debate, when the two parties are unable to come to an agreement as to pre-stipulated (look it up) facts, they engage a third party, neutral to both participants in the debate, who looks over the information provided and determines what's more likely to be truthful.
We've tried doing this with the rest of the posters here, but you insist that the problem isn't you, it has to be everyone else on the board, so now we're looking for third parties from other sites.
Until we engage a third party, you can keep telling yourself that you're 'right' via your endless capacity to go "nuh uh, nuh uh, nuh uh!", and I've really no further interest in that.
So let me know if you ever find your balls, but I suspect you're either going to make a grand deal about how you don't have to (whatever), or you'll find a bush league poster to play with and ignore the heavyweight beating you've been taking.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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I guess you call a dumb ass side of the argument the correct side of the argument. My not caring also makes you clueless. If you actually cared about all the people who have suffered from marijuana being illegal and knew all the benefits that marijuana provided you wouldn't say that you don't care. Which makes you clueless.
You don't even have to smoke pot or know anyone who does to think it should be legal. All you need is a heart to know the benefits of marijuana and be able to feel for the people who have suffered or even lost their lives
what I also said to flutter dew
You don't even have to smoke pot or know anyone who does to think it should be legal. All you need is a heart to know the benefits of marijuana and be able to feel for the people who have suffered or even lost their lives
what I also said to flutter dew
He's calling you crazy because you continue to try to influence people here, despite the unanimous opinion that you are a laughable idiot. A sane person would have ran off with his tail stuck between his legs months ago... but you're more like a dog, desperate and needy, who keeps coming back to the master who whomps his ass.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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No one has whomped my ass.
You keep on bringing up a third party but you don't need that to know the truths on marijuana. All you have to do is know the truth and you easily find that out for yourself without some neutral party on your side.
Are you telling me that you don’t think that Chuck Winder isn’t a fucked in the head crazy nut job?
You keep on bringing up a third party but you don't need that to know the truths on marijuana. All you have to do is know the truth and you easily find that out for yourself without some neutral party on your side.
Are you telling me that you don’t think that Chuck Winder isn’t a fucked in the head crazy nut job?
I dunno, I look at the shit on my bootheels, I see you on the ground, making up bitch excuses, it sure looks like your ass has been whomped.
I do keep bringing up a third party, because you keep insisting that the only way someone can know "the truth" is to agree with you, and I disagree with that premise. I've explained that to you at least a dozen times. I suspect you understand that, but you realize any third party would also tell you that you're full of shit, and then you'd be stuck in the position of insisting that the random judge was part of the grand conspiracy against marijuana.
So again, lemme know if you ever find those balls of yours.
I do keep bringing up a third party, because you keep insisting that the only way someone can know "the truth" is to agree with you, and I disagree with that premise. I've explained that to you at least a dozen times. I suspect you understand that, but you realize any third party would also tell you that you're full of shit, and then you'd be stuck in the position of insisting that the random judge was part of the grand conspiracy against marijuana.
So again, lemme know if you ever find those balls of yours.
The Dewbliners
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No, I call the dumb ass side of the argument, YOUR side of the fucking argument.
If not caring about whether or not you and your deadbeat hippie jam band buddies can light up makes me clueless, I'll happily accept that. Fine, I'm clueless. I reckon I want to stay that way, too.
As for all the alleged "benefits" of making marijuana legal. Big fucking deal. MDMA could help my depression, if only it were legal. Does that make it right for me to start ranting about a vast conspiracy keeping my helpful drugs illegal?
Oh, and it's FlutterDew. No space. If you can't remember that, just think "Oh, he took his name from the best pony in MLP:FiM."
Dowdsy McDowds
Sally was here
Glass houses bro.
Your statement, which I repeated both for comic effect and because I had to make sure I wasn't seeing things wrong the first time, was just beautifully and wonderfully ever so Todd. Telling people to send their opinions on a matter, of which there are two sides (at least), to a guy to tell him he is wrong...
You can choose any colour you want, as long as its black.
Oh Todd
I used to like you, but the correct answer is Rainbow Dash. I'd make a joke about truth and proving, but that shit just plain isn't funny anymore.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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But he is wrong and unlike Chuck Winder I have facts to back me up.
Tell me all about the other side to marijuana and compare it to all the benefits that the plant provides.
Then prove the dumb ass side by debunking everything that I said.
Your also not caring about all the sick people who smoke marijuana to help them live there life with less pain. Some people you depend on that plant because it is the safest form of medicine to use, it is the only medicine that can help them out. Your not caring about all the innocent people who were arrested or died while in prison for doing nothing wrong. Why can't you provide me with evidence that shows what I said wrong? Maybe you should stop caring about insulting me and care more for all people that have been harmed and all the wrong that has been done since marijuana has been illegal.
Saying things like that proves your clueless. At least marijuana has had proven medical benefits also something that can't ever kill you or something that you can't overdose from. When you say things like that I have reason to believe your a brainless programmed machine
OK Flutter Dew
What excuses have I made?
The only truth out there is not what I say, but all the research that has been done that shows marijuana has a lot medical benefits is the truth. If you cant see all the wrong marijuana being illegal causes then your stupid. I dont know how else to say it. There is so much evidence on my side so I dont need a third party to tell me facts that I already know. Again you have never cyber kicked my ass and you have yet to debunk anything I said.
The excuses concerning why you absolutely refuse to let a third party take over as a judge of fact. The purpose of a third party isn't to tell you that you're right, the purpose of a third party is to have someone the first two parties can submit your arguments to and judge which is more likely to be correct.
What we're stuck on is how you repeatedly insist "whatever I say is a fact", and everyone else in this thread is disputing that. I've been trying- very hard- to move us past that point, by doing what civilized people do when there's a dispute as to what the facts are- find a third party capable of mediating.
I think you're full of shit, and have no interest in describing to you how you're full of shit, because the response has and will continue to be a form of "nuh uh, nuh uh!" You think you're not full of shit. You could join in and look for a third party to support your point of view, or, you could continue to look like a bitch in the eyes of everyone with a brain cell and find yet another excuse for why you don't need anyone to confirm your 'evidence'- the truthfulness of much which I also dispute. Again, if you'd like me to describe to you how I think you're full of shit (again), we can find a third party for that.
If what you're saying is the truth, then you should be very eager to help me find a third party. I've been using your fear of a third party as an absolute hammer to make you look like a bitch, it would be a pretty epic takedown if you were to suddenly use that against me. On the other hand, it's just going to continue to be a very effective weapon for me when you come back and say "well, I would, but I won't", yet again.
What we're stuck on is how you repeatedly insist "whatever I say is a fact", and everyone else in this thread is disputing that. I've been trying- very hard- to move us past that point, by doing what civilized people do when there's a dispute as to what the facts are- find a third party capable of mediating.
I think you're full of shit, and have no interest in describing to you how you're full of shit, because the response has and will continue to be a form of "nuh uh, nuh uh!" You think you're not full of shit. You could join in and look for a third party to support your point of view, or, you could continue to look like a bitch in the eyes of everyone with a brain cell and find yet another excuse for why you don't need anyone to confirm your 'evidence'- the truthfulness of much which I also dispute. Again, if you'd like me to describe to you how I think you're full of shit (again), we can find a third party for that.
If what you're saying is the truth, then you should be very eager to help me find a third party. I've been using your fear of a third party as an absolute hammer to make you look like a bitch, it would be a pretty epic takedown if you were to suddenly use that against me. On the other hand, it's just going to continue to be a very effective weapon for me when you come back and say "well, I would, but I won't", yet again.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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This is something I thought deserved it's own comment.
What do I think about the term gateway drug? Well first off it is also a fact that marijuana is not a gateway drug so what I'm about to say is greater than an opinion because it's a fact.
Gateway drug is a made up term and only exist because of marijuana being illegal.
Just because someone smokes marijuana does not mean that he will move on to harder drugs. If marijuana were legal there would be a much less of a chance of people moving on to other drugs. In Holland where marijuana where you can get marijuana in bars and cafe have 33% less people who move on to harder drugs.
Why I say that marijuana being illegal will lead on to harder drugs? Your average drug dealer is not only selling pot thats why they call him a drug dealer. Your average drug dealer is also selling a bunch of other drugs one day he may say "I'm all out of bud but I got some cocaine if you like". By making marijuana legal you will take the dealers won't be selling weed and you wil have to buy off someone with a license to sell and won't offer you opium.
Also for a drug addict you have to look into the person's past. Most drug addicts didn't have the best childhood. Whether they grew up in a bad neighborhood or experienced a traumatic event that they were never able to get over off. A lot of drug addicts are also missing a parent or had abusive parents. Those two reasons right there make a lot more sense than that it was the marijuana that told them to move on to harder drugs.
Saying marijuana is a gateway drug is like me saying I use to eat a lot of chocolate but I wanted something that give me more of a edge so I started eating pot brownies all the time. Does that then make chocolate a gateway drug?
There is no such thing as a gateway drug.
See, this is why we're stuck. This seems to be the case with everything you say. And we think you're full of shit. So we try to find a third party to sort out the constant "fact" dispute, and you continue to be a bitch.
Please, help us move this forward. Stop being a bitch, get your balls up, and debate like a man. Instead of a bitch. Like you've been doing.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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Well what did I say that wasn't a fact?
Again, agree to a third party and we can help sort that out. Until then, you're just going to repeat this "nuh uh, nuh uh" bullshit that I don't care for.
It's very easy for you to move the discussion past this point, and considering I'm suggesting something completely neutral that has the potential to validate your entire argument, you should be eager to find one.
It's very easy for you to move the discussion past this point, and considering I'm suggesting something completely neutral that has the potential to validate your entire argument, you should be eager to find one.
OK, let me see if I can spell out the loop we're in here.
-You insist that something you say is an absolute fact, and anything someone says that disagrees must be wrong, so you don't need a third party, since if he disagreed with you, he'd just be wrong.
-I say that you're full of shit, and request a third party, like civilized people do when they cannot come to terms on an agreement of what the facts are.
-Go to step one.
Do you see how the problem here is that you insist that whatever you say must be a fact? I don't have to make that demand; I'm trusting in the eloquence of my arguments to be able to convince other people of my beliefs. I'm doing a pretty good job, too. The power is completely in your control to break this loop. All you have to do is agree to a third party. Until then, I am just going to continue using this 'third party' bludgeon to whip the absolute shit out of you, since you look terrified of having a neutral party decide on what a "fact" is.
-You insist that something you say is an absolute fact, and anything someone says that disagrees must be wrong, so you don't need a third party, since if he disagreed with you, he'd just be wrong.
-I say that you're full of shit, and request a third party, like civilized people do when they cannot come to terms on an agreement of what the facts are.
-Go to step one.
Do you see how the problem here is that you insist that whatever you say must be a fact? I don't have to make that demand; I'm trusting in the eloquence of my arguments to be able to convince other people of my beliefs. I'm doing a pretty good job, too. The power is completely in your control to break this loop. All you have to do is agree to a third party. Until then, I am just going to continue using this 'third party' bludgeon to whip the absolute shit out of you, since you look terrified of having a neutral party decide on what a "fact" is.
So what about the other 2/3 of the people. Still sounds like a problem.
And no, many people who enjoy the high of weed are willing to take their high a little further. They try some shrooms. They were alright from that so they try something else. And they keep dipping their toes in the waters just to see how it feels because their previous experiences were okay.
Not always the case but often is how people get on the hard shit. What do you think every junkie, meth head and crack ****e started with?
AhSpicyDrop
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Todd is a moron, but this is on the brink of competing with him. It's not even often the case... It's all based on demographics and what's available. There's a lot of areas in the United States where weed is so scarce that you pay a ridiculous amount for it. But meth and heroin(especially heroin here lately) are abundant. There's a reason why people that are homeless typically smoke crack, it's because it's a cheaper fix.
Also if there IS a gateway drug it's prescription pills. The high you can get from those if abused is far greater and extremely addictive. People get stuck on prescription pills and eventually their potency wears off to the point they're taking handfuls a day and finding other avenues to abuse them IE: powdering them and smoking them in foils. Not to mention prescription drugs are EASIER to get your hands on than weed is any day of the week... You just have to go to the doctor and say "Ow man, my neck hurts." And they hand you a script to go to the local Walmart and get some Hydrocodene or Flexerils for $4 a bottle.
I know a lot of people who have smoked pot and never even used anything else because weed worked for them... But there are people out there that smoke weed once and it does nothing for them, so they move onto something else... That's not a gateway because they were going to find something to make them feel better with or without. Whether it be methamphetamine, heroin, cocaine, or the synthetic bullshit that's out these days that all the "cool kids" are doing.
The "marijuana is a gateway drug" idea has been disproven by pretty much everybody... The people fighting to keep it illegal don't even use that argument anymore unless they're severely uninformed.
Most people on the opposing side of legalized marijuana are using the argument that with it being legal children will have greater access to it, and that's true... So if you're going to take up an argumentative stance against weed, choose that one... because using the old "gateway" theory is just going to get you laughed at.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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Don't say we cannot come to terms on a agreement when you ignore the truth. What I say is an absolute fact and I have the evidence that backs me up. There is no neutral side to marijuana the only side is that it is wrong that marijuana is illegal and the harm that is caused from it being illegal. Or all the amazing benefits that one plant can provide.
Whip away with your third party bull shit. At least I can make decisions for myself and dont need a group of people to declare whos right and wrong.
AhSpicyDrop
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I think a lot of it has to do with you coming across like an imbecile. It's hard to take you seriously because of the way you structure sentences and butcher the spelling and grammar of the English language. You seem like the kind of person that huffs toxic glue or gasoline. I find it hard to agree with you even on the rare occasion that you are right just based on those FACTS alone.
Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker
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Still less people than people here where marijuana is illegal.
Again it is not the weed that is making these people move on to other drugs. What about a person's past? Traumatic events, bad childhoods, bad neighborhoods those are the main ingredients that can lead to potential drug addictions.
Another reason of marijuana being illegal leads on to other drugs
Uninformed people because of the lies spread by marijuana leads on to other drugs All our lives we have been told all these lies about marijuana then when some people try it for the first time they realize that is nothing like they said it was. That then can make a person think will if weed didn't harm me heroin won't either. If marijuana were legal les people would move on to other drugs.
Most of those meth heads and crack ****es you talk about started out with alcohol and tobacco. Like AhSpicyDrop said what about prescription pills? The problem with prescription pills should be a far greater concern than marijuana. Instead we lock people up like Chris Williams until they die for providing the one of the safest medicines in the world.
The fact your even bringing up the whole gate way drug bull shit makes you seem dumb. There has been nothing that has ever proven marijuana leads on to other drugs.