TNA iMPACT! & ReAction LD for 10.14 — THEY are here!

[Tiger Chaos Theory]

Just made Pope look like a fucking star.

 

[#hamler]

So why is everyone heel? I feel like there are toooooo many.

 

[klunderbunker]

A four minute squash just tripled the amount of wrestling on the show with 20 minutes left.

 

[Gelgarin]

Sometimes I forget the audience I'm addressing and don't remember to dumb down what I say for a lowest common denominator. My bad. What I did was respond with the same non-response as you did, attacking a generic stereotype instead of what someone's actually saying. They call that a 'strawman' in big-word land.

That's nice. You can spare me the psudo-intellectual act incidentally. I'm pretty secure about my mind, all the way to the point where I can hold a conversation without trying to flaunt it like a massive cerebral phallus.

You quoted me how many times in that post, and the one time you don't quote me is for your claim that I said something specific? Riiiiiight.

You're kidding me right? I quoted you directly above. You said "I recognise shit wrestling when I see it". I quoted it, I pointed out that I was quoting it. I really thought the mental behemoth I'm clearly dealing with could have got him mind around that.

Is the phrase "if all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail?" That's the one I'm thinking of. It sure makes things simpler when you're arguing on the internet to attack a generic stereotype instead of having to worry about what someone's actually saying.

Except the majority of what you're saying is various overly dressed iterations of "I don't like this", to which I have already made clear I don't care.
The only thing I give a shit about is you trying to say that TNA is "shit wrestling", when considering the numbers, considering the history or simply exercising even a trace element of humility quite clearly indicated that this is not true.

You don't like TNA. - Fine.
TNA is shit because you don't like it. - Arrogant bullshit.

As a company that still has illusions of growing, I thought they were trying to attract new fans? You don't seem to get that I want to like TNA, but what they are offering me, I don't find compelling. I'm far from the only person who feels that way, but anyone who expresses displeasure with anything TNA does is automatically an "internet drone". Again, it's much easier to argue against some strawman than it is to argue against someone's opinions.

Sans the Monday night debarcle (which even those involved confess as a total failure) TNA has been growing it's audience year on year since it's creation. Ratings have trended up on an anual average. Success. Growth.

Incidentally, since you're going to go on to imply that people who like TNA are either brain-dead or brainwashed by advertising then the temper tantrum about being stereotyped is starting to loose it's credibility.

And what reports are those? The one pulled from in between Left Cheek and Right Cheek? All reports indicate that TNA is going out of business next week. Someone posted it on the internet on a message board, it *must* be true.

Personally I'd take the fact that it's been maintaining by and large the same business model for multiple years to be a pretty good clue. Clue number two is that the more credible dirt-sheets have reported that TNA is just over the profit margin in-spite of their evident loathing of the company. Clue number three of course is that Disco told us when he was working for the company. First hand account. Second hard account. Deductive reasoning. 's enough for me.

You are doing the same exact thing right now, except you liked the segment in question. This is Live Discussion, right? Not the Live Mark-out forum?

Last I checked I was having a discussion with you? Along with most of the rest of the crowd. It's not a mark out forum, but nor is it a welcome ground for people who arrive exclusively to bitch. You started right from the opening based off the order people came to the ring.
Is it still stereotyping when it's accurate?

This I will say is wrong. If you tell people that something is good enough times, there's a healthy bottom percentage who will believe it. That's Marketing 101 right there; if you don't believe me, it's election season. The candidate who spends more on advertising wins, more often than not.

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Yep, so I'm in the bottom percentage of humanity. I'm not going to deal with the rest of that because it's stupid. I'm bored of you now. You can gloat and declare victory if you like.

 

[srchmast]

A key point of tonight, none of the faces are having each other's back. They all trying to fight their own war. I'm honeslty loving this Impact.

 

[Starchild]

So why is everyone heel? I feel like there are toooooo many.

To make it seem hopeless, where they always win. Until someone finally has enough and comes back to even the odds (namely Sting, Nash, and Angle)

 

[JJYanks121]

To make it seem hopeless, where they always win. Until someone finally has enough and comes back to even the odds (namely Sting, Nash, and Angle)

Like in WCW when Sting came back to finally take down Hogan at Starrcade 1997. How did that turn out? I sure hope this isn't how it goes, but those who do not learn from history................

 

[Starchild]

Like in WCW when Sting came back to finally take down Hogan at Starrcade 1997. How did that turn out? I sure hope this isn't how it goes, but those who do not learn from history................

I'm not saying it's a good idea. But that's how it's going to happen.

 

[klunderbunker]

A common theme I'm noticing here so far:

TNA fans/marks are talking about how everything is symbolic and all these deeper meanings to things and how this builds up drama and all that jazz.

The critics here are saying things that are on the surface: things look bad and there is practically no wrestling.

Sums up TNA in a nutshell: if you're not a huge fan, you're likely not going to like the show. Either all in or nothing at all.

 

[Gelgarin]

The show being full of heels is fine, as long as they still have enough bodies to build a decent PPV card each month. Also has good odds of helping to elevate somebody. Can't see who quite yet, Lethal is a possibility I guess.

 

[klunderbunker]

Angle advertised by name for turning point.

Nice one guys.

 

[Tiger Chaos Theory]

Time to turn off my tv.

 

[Starchild]

A common theme I'm noticing here so far:

TNA fans/marks are talking about how everything is symbolic and all these deeper meanings to things and how this builds up drama and all that jazz.

The critics here are saying things that are on the surface: things look bad and there is practically no wrestling.

Sums up TNA in a nutshell: if you're not a huge fan, you're likely not going to like the show. Either all in or nothing at all.

That's as it always is.

But I think we can agree that TNA marks and critics alike all hate this Jersey Shore shit.

 

[klunderbunker]

How is this the same thing as IC and D-Man?

 

[Gelgarin]

A common theme I'm noticing here so far:

TNA fans/marks are talking about how everything is symbolic and all these deeper meanings to things and how this builds up drama and all that jazz.

The critics here are saying things that are on the surface: things look bad and there is practically no wrestling.

Sums up TNA in a nutshell: if you're not a huge fan, you're likely not going to like the show. Either all in or nothing at all.

Fair enough. One hardcore fan is worth quite a large number of casual ones.


Oh good, the Jersey thing I don't understand.

 

[goodlay]

A common theme I'm noticing here so far:

TNA fans/marks are talking about how everything is symbolic and all these deeper meanings to things and how this builds up drama and all that jazz.

The critics here are saying things that are on the surface: things look bad and there is practically no wrestling.

Sums up TNA in a nutshell: if you're not a huge fan, you're likely not going to like the show. Either all in or nothing at all.

The thing is though, even if all this is "symbolic", when are we going to get definite answers?

Probably never.

 

[klunderbunker]

Why would you point that out when you have a girl from Jersey Shore there?

 

[Gelgarin]

The thing is though, even if all this is "symbolic", when are we going to get definite answers?

Probably never.

Hasn't this entire show been answers?

 

[Tiger Chaos Theory]

If anyone can find me a picture of Becky Bayless's(Cookie's) ass, I'll rep you three times in a row.

 

[JJYanks121]

As a New Yawker, I am insulted with how bad these 2 portray guidos. I hate real guidos, and these guys can't pull off being guidos, so how do you think I feel about them?

 

[klunderbunker]

We're missing Velvet's apron dance for this?

 

[Gelgarin]

Well they've saved this till very close to the main event. If I can get over the pain in my mind then I'll concede the logic. Still hate it though.

 

[Ferreira]

Can somebody explain what the hell is this shit about Shore? I'm not from USA, so I don't have a fucking clue what this shit is about...

 

[Starchild]

Hasn't this entire show been answers?

TNA is like Roddy Piper ... Just when you think you have all the answers, they change the questions.

 

[klunderbunker]

Go back to that hole you came from! Just not to my house in the same said hole!