The Streak Is Over (Keep it in here!!!!)

[Wturner]

Taker finally losing gives us all the biggest shock or wrestling moment of all time.
Regardless if we like or dislike who he lost to he had to lose to someone.
Some may argue that losing to Lesnar was a waste of a match But in the end it was Takers call on when and who he lost to. Streaks are meant to be broken.
The match was very slow and boring, it was nothing compared to the matches with HHH or HBK - personally i thought the end of the era should have come in the match Hbk was ref in. Was a very emotional Match and then it could at least be said Taker lost his streak but it took 2 of the greatest to end it. That is just my opinion.

Taker is old now Even tho the streak has ended it will always live on and will always be remembered NO ONE will ever come close to touching that streak.

Even when Taker came to the ring his dress attire was kinda weird in a way. When i seen it i knew something was up like he was wearing some ceremonial Coat and hat - So many people have complained the streak match each year is to predictable and none of us thought it would end anytime soon. Considering there are so many more matches out there taker could have taken on at mania - cena, sting etc.

The shock and Awe factor from even a slow boring match stole the show - taker lost but his Mania moment will probably get match of the year And when anyone ever mentions Wmania 30 the first thing Most will say is that's when taker lost. Not that's when cena beat wyatt or Brian won the belt.

Last night i was in shock and disbelief Today however i don't think that match should have ended any other way. It gave us all a moment in time that we will never forget everyone will remember where they were when taker lost.

At the end of the day this opens up a spot on the card each year for younger talent to perform and for Other high profile matches to take place. I think this Reality Era is going to show less of older talent and less of part timers and more of wwe built Performers.

I look forward to Raw tonight - I look forward to the Hall of fame next year when taker comes out and talks out of character and maybe on that night we will learn why he chose Lesnar to do it why he wanted to end the streak at all and so on.

 

[chicagokmc]

Something that had to be taken into consideration when talking about the Taker's streak is the physical characteristics of the Taker himself. He is as an extremely big guy and we all know how the WWE likes big guys. A small guy wasn't ending this streak. So for those bringing up Punk and Bryan and Shawn Michaels, I don't think they were ever serious possibilities to end the streak. It was going to take someone not only big in stature but big physically. That only leaves a handful of people around enough to get a program going. Cena...he had already started his story with Wyatt. HHH...can't go from losing 3 different types to Taker at WM to being the streak ender. Lesnar fit what was needed perfectly.

 

[Macskye]

75,000+ fans in attendance and an entire universe watching at home left in complete shock. I always suspected it might end one day, but I never thought that day would be WrestleMania 30.

So, the Brock Lesner broke the streak. The only comfort I can take in that is it was "apparently" the Undertakers decision. Ironically, I and my brother were discussing other future opponents to try to break the streak, suggesting names such as; Sting, John Cena and Bray Wyatt.

With Sting signing with WWE, I among the rest of the WWE unviserve was under the impression WrestleMania 31 would see Sting take on the Undertaker to try and break the streak. I thought John Cena would be a good opponent to challenge the streak at WrestleMania 32. This would give Bray Wyatt 3 more years to establish himself as a main event player for a Taker V Wyatt match at wrestleMania 33, the run up story line would be packed with mind games and scare tactics, I also added that Wyatt would be the perfect man to break the Streak, as it would solidify him as an major player, something that Brock Lesner, did not need.

All in all, much like the majority of the WWE Universe, I am disappointed, but it had to happen one day, whether you liked it or not, it got the reaction they wanted and will go down in history as one of the most shocking moments of all time.

So what now, does the undertaker retire? will we see him, Lesner or Heyman on RAW? Where do we go from here? so many unanswered questions

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

The more I've been thinking about it and listening to what other people have said, it makes sense if the Undertaker is retiring. Lesnar winning does nothing. The guys has been world champion, he's been a UFC champion, he's been on NFL teams (kind of). He doesn't need a rub. And the fact that he's a part-timer, it doesn't really help WWE at all. But if Taker just wanted to retire, they can at least do something with this. Sure, it would be cool to be 22-0, and that's what I wanted, but in the end, it doesn't mean much.

Also, Lesnar is credible. I'm not sure everyone would buy Bryan beating Taker at WM or Roman Reigns beating Taker at this point. Cena is a "good guy" so you can't sell the anger people have or the bragging rights. While I don't think it does anything, if he's actually retiring, it's probably better for business than Taker keeping the streak.

As for some other stuff mentioned... Do you really want a Sting/Taker match? IT WOULD NOT BE GOOD. And I don't really understand why Sting keeps getting paired up with Taker. Because he has a goth-like look? I really don't think there's any similarities or allure other than the fact that they both wear black.

 

[Aquaman6686]

A rematch would be pointless. Any match with any opponent would be pointless. Rather than allow Undertaker to retire with the Streak intact, or at least use The Streak to create a new megastar for the next 5-10 years, Undertaker's career and legacy were flushed down the toilet to put over a part-time star who himself will be retired in a few years. It was the single worst moment in WrestleMania history and I can't even fathom why Undertaker would agree to lose to Brock Lesnar of all people.

 

[chicagokmc]

I'm just glad the outcome of this didn't leak in advance. You can tell from the ring reaction and internet reaction that this was totally unexpected. Good for WWE. In a world where everything is leaked because we all have access to social media, things that should be genuine surprises like the Rock being at WM (he leaked that himself on social media) to you-know-who probably showing up tonight on Raw are known ahead of time. Like the outcome or not, I'm just glad I didn't know about it in advance.

On that, good job WWE.

 

[#tamale]

There are no perfect endings. In the NBA, the Bulls, the Celtics, and the Lakers had dynasties end on bittersweet notes. The undefeated Patriots lost to the underdog Giants and destroy their chance at perfection. That's the nature of how this world works.

That's why how this streak ended was perfect. The Undertaker and his fans expected him to just go through the motions, hit his signature spots, the match become a finisher fest, and end it with the tombstone and the graphic of 22-0 on the screen with Taker doing his signature pose. Everyone was talking about how Sting would challenge him at Wrestlemania 31 and if one day it will be Bray Wyatt or Roman Reigns ending the streak.

Everybody but Lesnar and Heyman. Remember this, Undertaker was the one who called out Lesnar. Undertaker had a casket ready for Lesnar. It was the hubris of the Undertaker and his fans that led to his downfall. People expected him to come out on top because Lesnar is not the guy. In reality, Lesnar fits the bill perfectly of the guy to end the streak. Former WWE Champion, Former UFC Champion, NCAA Division 1 Champion, still in his prime, a major PPV draw and crossover star, etc. All the credentials are there. So why are we shocked that it's Lesnar?

The build was lackluster. Everyone was thinking about next year. The match had Undertaker struggle because he was an old dog going up against a young dog in a vicious fight he no longer could withstand, and everyone still was expecting an Undertaker win. Just like the dynasties of before, this was not a storybook ending.

 

[Aman27deep]

In all honesty, that was one of the (if not THE) worst Undertaker matches I've seen. He looked fat and lumpy, and was in no condition to compete imo. Even last year vs Punk he looked sharp. I wanted to see Undertaker v Sting once, but now it's all but certain it won't happen.

Would have loved to see his streak be undefeated, but of course he decided this himself. No way f**king Vince could force Undertaker into making that decision.

 

[Logisticalbooker86]

The only question is whether or not Undertaker wants to do a dream match with Sting. In this day and age where the end is long foreshadowed with sad video packages and epic production, last night was an abrupt thud that has sent shockwaves through the WWE.

Does it end tonight, or will Taker have one more ride with Sting before he calls his legendary career? We will likely find out tonight, and I am waiting on pins and needles.

 

[bigleagueg_337]

I think last night was the end of a great era,I been watching Taker since Survivor Series 90 and he is truly a living legend but I think he could have lost the streak to CM Punk last year if he was giving it up,last night match was weak and Brock is a part timer,the streak should have went down at the hands of somebody else..Not taking anything away from Brock but Come on man!!!

 

[Vinny1979]

Vince got exactly what he wanted. He swerved everybody and now Raw is must watch TV. Bryan's win was overshadowed big time by the Undertaker loss and now the question is will Taker be on Raw tonight? Everybody will tune in and that is what Vince wanted that is why what happened happened.

 

[RedRegan1005]

The Undertaker is one of my favorite pro wrestlers of all time, and always will be. That said, time to hang it up. He recently turned 49, and with the Streak over, I don't think he has a reason to lace up the boots again, unless the story was perfect. Think about, without the streak, there will be no Cena Vs Taker, or Sting Vs Taker. He has nothing left to do now. Taker is an old school guy, and big on respect. Its no surprise he would go out in a loss. When taker and brock had that confrontation at the UFC event years ago, I thought it was because he wanted Lesnar to end the Streak. I wasn't a fan of it ending, but i'm sure it wouldn't have unless the Deadman picked when, and who it happened to. I think he retires on RAW tonight, with a big send off to cap off his legendary career.

 

[HeymanHustler]

True. It did sort of stain Daniel Bryan's crowning moment because the crowd was still reeling from The Streak ending. Though I think The Streak ending sort of helped make the main event a little more unpredictable. Going in, most people were sure either Batista or (more likely) Daniel Bryan would win, but everybody were sure Undertaker would win too and look how that turned out. The Streak ending made it seem like anyone's ball game.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

True. It did sort of stain Daniel Bryan's crowning moment because the crowd was still reeling from The Streak ending. Though I think The Streak ending sort of helped make the main event a little more unpredictable. Going in, most people were sure either Batista or (more likely) Daniel Bryan would win, but everybody were sure Undertaker would win too and look how that turned out. The Streak ending made it seem like anyone's ball game.

Good point. I still think though no matter what, in terms of how this Wrestlemania will be rememember years from now, it will be for Lesnar ending the streak. That was one of the biggest moments in WWE history. It's not that no one will remember DB winning the belt, it's just that him winning wasn't THE story from the event, it was Undertaker's streak ending.

 

[MCMG]

Definitely unexpected but simply awesome. All I wanted was a good match that, for one second, made me believe. This was a rather average match that wasn't doing a good job of making me think the streak was going to end. The second F5 was ok but no-one was invested into the idea Brock could win.

What they did was awesome. This was a "Wrestlemania" match in it's purest form. Hogan/Andre, Hogan/Warrior, Hogan/Rock weren't great bell-to-bell matches but they were iconic. The ending and the subsequent reactions mean I honestly think this is one of the great pro wrestling moments.

The streak has been a fantastic WM tradition. I'm shocked it ended but it had to eventually. Brock winning made sense but he wouldn't be my first choice. Cena would have been great but I understand that Brock is a legitimate threat. The only man to beat Taker at WM is a former UFC World Champ.

 

[d_henderson1810]

The Streak had to end sometime I guess, and it makes things less predictable, but I have a hard time swallowing it being Brock Lesnar who did it.

Taker and Brock are complete opposites.

Undertaker has given more to WWE than most. He remained loyal during the "Monday Night Wars". Even now, he comes back every year to help out WWE by having a match at WM. Taker doesn't need the money, as he is set for life, so he does it because Vince was good to him, so this is how he pays him back.

Brock Lesnar has taken from the WWE more than he ever gave it. The WWE booked him to win the IC Title, the KOTR, The Royal Rumble, main event Wrestlemania in his first year, and win the title at it, another title reign, he was the focal point of "Smackdown" for months, and either defended or challenged for the title during that time.

He had all these accolades, and all in two years. Many take a longer to achieve half of those, yet he got it all in two years. Yet, how thankful was Brock? He walked out. He thanked WWE by leaving them.

Now, Lesnar comes back, and can't even bother wrestling full-time. He isn't in his forties and banged-up. Say what you want with Batista, but at least he is now full-time.

So, I would have thought that Undertaker, who is a great respecter of the business, would want to lose the Streak to either a fellow loyalist, like Shawn Michaels or Triple H, who have been around the traps, and love the business. Otherwise, he give it to some up-and-comer, like Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt or even Daniel Bryan, to elevate them to the moon, and pass the torch.

Yet Brock isn't a newbie in need of a push, or a respecter of the business. Furthermore, it makes UFC look more powerful than WWE. Think about it, "wrestlers" couldn't beat Taker, but a legit fighter could. Real fighting beats fake fighting. Mark Madden would be proud. This makes UFC performers tougher than wrestlers (they may be, but it isn't WWE's job to do that).

I find this decision bewildering. The only thing I can think is a legit injury, which may mean career over, and he just fulfilled his obligations, or he is sick of doing Wrestlemania every year. I heard that he and Michelle McCool had their first child recently. Maybe he wants to be able to play with the baby, not struggle to get on one knee because he is too banged up. Maybe he is sick of the ongoing favor, and his goodwill is tired. Maybe Taker said "I don't care who I lose the Streak to, I just want to end my career."

I can't think of any other reason Undertaker would agree to drop his Streak, the most iconic thing in Wrestlemania history, to someone he has had issues with in the past, who is not a lover of the sport (but a user of it), and is a legit fighter, which makes WWE look bad.

 

[Loganity]

After taking a day to process and think it all over here's my thoughts. As a huge Undertaker fan I couldn't be more conflicted. On one hand The streak is over and it's been acknowledged several times that the only reason he kept coming back was to defend the streak. If I'm remembering correctly Triple H once said "When the streak dies you die" or something along those lines. So I can't help but wonder what would be the point of another match?

But on the other hand to go out like that wouldn't be fitting of one of the greatest of all time. First off I can't believe that they wouldn't build up to his final match like they did Shawn Michaels, or Ric Flair. Secondly that match certainly wasn't a fitting close to his career. Taker was dominated he looked weak and blown up quickly. Does he really want that to be the final image of his wrestling career? I would hope not.. As a die hard Undertaker fan that's not how I want to see him go out.

So I say all that to say this. I have no clue if last night was his last match. But there's only two scenarios where I see him competing next year.

1. As many of you have said Taker teases retirement tonight and Sting debuts and challenges him to a match next year at WM31. No matter what it is a dream match, streak or no streak.

2. Taker still teases retirement, Heyman and Brock come out and brag about ending the streak the career of The Undertaker. Undertaker walks away for his yearly vacation/ recuperation. Throughout the year Heyman and Brock continue to take shot at Taker throughout Brocks various feuds this year. Fast for forward to Wrestlemaina season next year, Taker makes his return determined to avenge this year's loss.

Or it is very possible we've seen the last of The Undertaker until a Hall of Fame induction. No matter what hopefully Raw answers some questions

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

He deserved it because the Undertaker says he deserved it. It's HIS streak, not yours.

And you need to quit the WWE vs. UFC thing. This doesn't make the WWE look bad. What makes them look bad is when they try having us believe that Triple H or Cena could've beaten Lesnar.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

The Streak had to end sometime I guess, and it makes things less predictable, but I have a hard time swallowing it being Brock Lesnar who did it.

Taker and Brock are complete opposites.

Undertaker has given more to WWE than most. He remained loyal during the "Monday Night Wars". Even now, he comes back every year to help out WWE by having a match at WM. Taker doesn't need the money, as he is set for life, so he does it because Vince was good to him, so this is how he pays him back.

Brock Lesnar has taken from the WWE more than he ever gave it. The WWE booked him to win the IC Title, the KOTR, The Royal Rumble, main event Wrestlemania in his first year, and win the title at it, another title reign, he was the focal point of "Smackdown" for months, and either defended or challenged for the title during that time.

Taker was the one who wanted Brock to end it. Not Brock, and being as they seem to be friends I would think you could be happy Taker got what he wanted.

He had all these accolades, and all in two years. Many take a longer to achieve half of those, yet he got it all in two years. Yet, how thankful was Brock? He walked out. He thanked WWE by leaving them.

Now, Lesnar comes back, and can't even bother wrestling full-time. He isn't in his forties and banged-up. Say what you want with Batista, but at least he is now full-time.

So, I would have thought that Undertaker, who is a great respecter of the business, would want to lose the Streak to either a fellow loyalist, like Shawn Michaels or Triple H, who have been around the traps, and love the business. Otherwise, he give it to some up-and-comer, like Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt or even Daniel Bryan, to elevate them to the moon, and pass the torch.

But he didn't, he wanted to give it to Brock, and after over 20 years of service to the WWE. I think he has that right.

I find this decision bewildering. The only thing I can think is a legit injury, which may mean career over, and he just fulfilled his obligations, or he is sick of doing Wrestlemania every year. I heard that he and Michelle McCool had their first child recently. Maybe he wants to be able to play with the baby, not struggle to get on one knee because he is too banged up. Maybe he is sick of the ongoing favor, and his goodwill is tired. Maybe Taker said "I don't care who I lose the Streak to, I just want to end my career."

From what was reported by the Wrestling Observer, he asked that it be Brock.

I can't think of any other reason Undertaker would agree to drop his Streak, the most iconic thing in Wrestlemania history, to someone he has had issues with in the past, who is not a lover of the sport (but a user of it), and is a legit fighter, which makes WWE look bad.

First off, it doesn't make WWE look bad. Secondly, Taker wanted it to end, and he wanted Brock to end it. That's reason enough for me.

 

[rerun406]

and so it begins. Was tempted to start up a "Who should have ended the streak" thread, but we get a thread citing that Brock didn't deserve it

**I understand the dislike in that Brock is a part timer, but if all those reports about Taker wanting Brock to end the streak are true then that should be good enough

I'd rather that, than Taker just keep going for the sake of it, and lose to another superstar that the WWE prefers (Cena?)

and judging from the quality of Taker's last match unfortunately he seems way past his best, so what's the sense in sticking around, when Taker could pass off the WM Streak to who he wants.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

This is gonna sound weird, but I'm reminded of a promo from Taker during the build for his Wrestlemania 28 match with Triple H. Taker dismissed his victory over Triple H as "nothing," because his victory was a fluke, and he didn't want the fans to remember him as someone, who needed help going to the back in his final match.

I think of that promo, because I believe Mark Calaway feels that way in real life. Calaway has too much personal pride and respect for the business to leave Wrestlemania with an obligatory victory for the sake of keeping The Streak going. He knows fans expect the best of the best, when it comes to The Streak, and if he can't perform at a high level anymore and deliver a memorable match, then it's time for The Streak to come to an end and move on.

And last night was the first time Taker looked beat up and worn down. As the match progressed, Taker's condition deteriorated. The human body is not a light switch. You can't just flip it on and off, whenever you feel like it to go at 100 mph, with no restraints or restrictions, and it's a bigger problem, when you consider all the wear and tear on Taker. It doesn't work like that. It took a while, but Father Time finally caught up to Taker. Last year's match with CM Punk was the first warning sign, because the Punk match is very tamed, when you compare it to the matches with Triple H and Shawn.

I don't have a big problem with Lesnar being the one to end it. I always had a hard time buying into the possibility of Cena, because I never believed in WWE taking that risk with Cena. Lesnar is a heel through and through. He is the soulless mercenary, so he can take the heat for being the one to end it. Breaking The Streak is not going to help a face, because the fans (think about the reaction to Lesnar's win last night) will always remember him, as the one guy, who destroyed something sacred.

And I'm glad it went to someone established, so we can end all of this talk of a young up-and-comer breaking The Streak. It's not worth the risk, because you never know what's going to happen in the future. What happens if the young guy turns out to be a flop? What happens if he loses interest in pro wrestling, and quits? Then what? WWE just wasted a once in a lifetime rub on a failed experiment.

In the end, The Streak provided some great Wrestlemania moments and matches, but if Taker wanted to end it, if Taker hand picked Brock Lesnar, then it's something we have to accept. Vince and company won't force Taker to end The Streak, it's Taker's call, and he's earned the right to do so.

 

[tyler.durden]

If Taker retired with the streak intact, say 23 or 24-0, I wonder what % of fans will think that he didn't lay down for anyone and buried every wrestler over the last 10 years? I would say probably 5% of the IWC, maybe even less. But maybe Taker just can't live with that criticism. As said, wrestlers go out laying down, and this was a good time for Taker to do that. He can't do this forever. He knows this. We all know this. It's all about putting others over and he did the right thing, regardless of who he lost to. I hope Cena and any other future a-hole superstars learned something from it.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Well Raw didn't answer any questions about The Undertaker's future. Anyone want to take any guesses on what that means?(If anything)

I would assume a statement by Taker was planned for RAW, but with him apparently being injured / suffering a concussion during his Mania match, maybe he had to take the night off by doctor's orders, even if it would just have been a promo appearance.

I could also imagine his head is a bit rattled if he suffered a concussion, and maybe he didn't want to go out there when there was a chance he might not be able to get across everything he wants to say exactly the way he wants to say it.

 

[MisterRob]

People seem to be whining about the Undertaker losing, and how he lost, who he lost to, and believing it was somehow all pointless. Firstly, the Undertaker is "old school" and that means he understands that when you leave the business you're suppose to "do the job" on the way out. That's why everyone who believed he would go undefeated, retire with the streak, and ride off into sunset, were silly to begin with. They never took in to account the WRESTLER behind the gimmick.

Why Brock Lesnar? Everyone is so short sighted that no one seems to be looking at the obvious. What did the Undertaker and the Streak represent at Wrestlemania? Who was a credible enough star to replace the Undertaker and be a big enough draw that he could, perhaps, begin his own streak and become the NEXT dominant force for years to come? When you look at the entire roster you realize that there isn't ANYONE else who could be viewed as the same dominant presence as the Undertaker was on the Wrestlemania stage. That could actually step into his shoes and people could believe would build another streak and dominate the roster. Not only that but Lesnar is a larger-then-life character, who is physically what Wrestlemania needs, and who is a proven DRAW that will bring in people to watch his feuds and matches at Wrestlemania. No one else has the package that Lesnar brings to the table. This might not be about ending the Streak, but the next chapter of it in a sense and continuing on that legacy. And even if Lesnar is part time, so was the Undertaker!! Even if Lesnar only works Wrestlemania like the Undertaker, Lesnar is YOUNG, in his prime, and he could essentially continue on for another DECADE and by then be the same age as Undertaker is right now.


On another note: People really need to stop being brainwashed and acting as if the Streak is this legendary accomplishment. Everything's scripted! It's really not as impressive when you look at the details of the Streak as everyone makes it out to be. WWE has just promoted it so well that now everyone excepts it as the greatest thing ever.

There's only FOUR current hall of famers in the 22 matches he wrestled at Wrestlemania.

Four of those matches were against wrestlers he'd already previously BEATEN at Wrestlemania. What an accomplishment! You beat the same guy three times, that's unbelievable!

Only 10 of those matches were matches that were ABOVE the mid-card or lower card of WrestleMania. That's 44%, which isn't a phenomenal percentage, now is it?

Only 3 of those matches were ACTUALLY the main event of Wrestlemania for their year. As in, the very LAST match of the night. 3 out of 22 matches!

Most importantly: It's all scripted.

 

[PowerHouse]

It was def a shocking moment but lets face it who does the WWE have at the moment that could have broken the streak and carried all that heat as the most dominant Heel in WWE???Orton.. he had the title and only stayed relavent cause HHH keep him that way. Cena??? The resident Superman he's got the Superman Face gig perfected he can't be both the most dominant Face and heel in wwe. This has been what Undertaker has wanted for years!!!! He was gonna snap the streak back in 2010 if Brock agreed to the match. Undertaker wanted the streak to end and If i had to guess Id say its because his body just can't handle or do it anymore. People are upset at the way Brock won it. He won in Dominant fashion!!!! He controlled the entire match and physically dominated the Undertaker.

Now what does the WWE do with Brock until his next fued?? If I were WWE sinc Heyman has a new guy to manage while Brock is away for a little bit. It would be cool to see Lesnar randomly show up come out and destroy people. WWE can't have the guy who broke takers streak just sitting home till Summerslam.