The *Official* John Cena Thread

[LokiCobain]

I never stated that trying hard and having passion for the business makes you a good wrestler.

I know he has more than 5 moves. That's why I stated 5 apparent moves. People seem to think he only does 5 moves throughout a whole match, which isn't true.

I don't usually like calling them Superstars. What they go out and do every night is wrestle. Therefore in my opinion they should be called wrestlers not Superstars.

It doesn't matter if you like calling the Superstars or not. You've been calling him a wrestler, but praising his drive, connection with the fans, and promos, which is more important to the business now than actual wrestling. So calling them Superstars, and especially Cena, is more appropriate.

Hulk Hogan could most definetly wrestle very well. Look at some of his matches and show me one time he botched or messed up a move. The answer you will find is that almost never did he mess up or botch his moves. He perfected his wrestling abilities and he hardly messed up. That's one thing Cena has done too. He may perform 5 apparent moves but he has perfected them and very rarely will you seem him botch his moves.

I've seen him botch his devastating finisher: The Leg Drop. He didn't even perfect that.

So you are saying that he doesn't perform or do his moves? If this was the case (which is isn't) then he would lose every match since he couldn't execute his moves.

No, he doesn't perform a wide variety of moves. And he can still perform moves terribly and win matches because he's popular and wrestling isn't a real competition. You don't have to be a good technical wrestler to be successful or win...

 

[ronjoewill16]

all the people that hate on cena need to think about the other wrestlers that are just like cena, but havent recieved as big of a push. you cant like mvp. cant like cm punk. definitely cant like jeff hardy. its because of the wonderous push of cena that people dislike his wrestling ability. punk, hardy- they all have a limited amount of moves they pull off in the ring. i swear if i dont see a flying knee , some slaps, some kicks, and a gts from punk, i must be dreaming. hardy is already a sloppy wreslter. just like his brother. but the thing that makes him such a cash cow, just like cena and hogan and austin, is their ability to entertain. which is what its all about. entertaining. electrifying.

 

[LokiCobain]

all the people that hate on cena need to think about the other wrestlers that are just like cena, but havent recieved as big of a push. you cant like mvp. cant like cm punk. definitely cant like jeff hardy. its because of the wonderous push of cena that people dislike his wrestling ability. punk, hardy- they all have a limited amount of moves they pull off in the ring. i swear if i dont see a flying knee , some slaps, some kicks, and a gts from punk, i must be dreaming. hardy is already a sloppy wreslter. just like his brother. but the thing that makes him such a cash cow, just like cena and hogan and austin, is their ability to entertain. which is what its all about. entertaining. electrifying.

I agree with you, but the thread is "best wrestlers and entertainers". I'll definitely give entertainer, but it's the wrestler I take issue to. But SavageTaker equates wrestler with superstar, which is fine, but just lead to confusion. Very rarely would someone be on both a top 10 list of best actual wrestlers AND most entertaining superstars.

 

[hater]

Cena is a product of the WWE machine. I personally hate seeing him in the ring, but he does have more than 5 moves. WWE waters down every "Superstar" that they have. C.M. Punk has a lot more moves than he is allowed to use. Cena was very entertaining as The Prototype in UPW and OVW. When you are being pushed as a face, you must pander to the crowd.This is why all of his promos sound the same. He is a watered down, PG version of The Rock on the stick. Just go back to when he first arrived as a heel. He said way better stuff then. Also, not to sound redundant, if you go back and look at most of the "Superstars" pre-WWE matches, you will see that all of them used to do a whole lot more in the ring. Cena is not a great wrestler, but he is a damn good entertainer. I hate to admit it.

 

[ratedrko13]

cena is terrible on the mic, unless you are six years old and his wrestling skills are far worst then lackluster. They made him a title that spins and has f"d the whole champions look. He has terrible matches, every match he gets his ass beat and then comes back for the save. Not to mention his tag team matches were he sits on the apron the whole match and wrestles and wins in two sec. The guy has drive ill give him that, he is a hypocrite and a loser when it coes to wrestling. Real wrestling!

Kurt angle, chris benoit, chris jericho, brock lesner, bret hart, ect. These are the names that should be mentioned in the best list. Cena being mentioned makes me sick and worried as to where wrestling is headed. I have watched wrestling for 10 years and this is by far the worst over pushed i have ever seen. Just because kids and wiggers love him doesn't make him great. Cena is trash and people who think otherwise don't know what wrestling is all about.

If it were up to me cena would be fired and i would watch him go to roh or tna and gt boooood by others. Wwe markets kids, well if cena were to go other places his lackluster abilities would make him lackluster too just like his movie and rap career. Remember him going and wrestling at the ecw arena with ecw fans?

Cena = Crap

 

[BooCocky]

John Cena a good wrestler?

the best there is right now. He has consistent matches on Raw and he usually steps it up on a PPV.

Oh lord, Curt Hennig is turning over in his grave

The mid carder Curt Hennig? Cena is a far bigger name in the wrestling industry thank you very much.

He is appalling in the ring. Look at his matches with the Big Show, Orton..even Jericho struggles to get a decent match out of him.

lies, don't blame him for his lackluster matches with Big Show. Right now that feud is dead and they had matches before, which were good. He has done everything he possibly can against Big Show. Jericho on the other hand is as overrated as they get. Him and Cena had some decent matches but Jericho is nowhere near as good as Cena when it comes to wrestling. Plus, I enjoyed some of their matches. Orton sucks and his best match was with Cena. Cena is as consistent as they come.

Terrible wrestling skills.

In the last five years he has gotten the best match out of Lashley, Edge, Orton, JBL, Khali, Umaga, HHH and even HBK. Cena is great and he is in this position because of his work ethic. He brings it week after week, he is a companies man, and he is a very good professional wrestler. If he wasn't good he wouldn't be a main eventer, and he wouldn't of had that very long title reign.

 

[SavageTaker]

cena is terrible on the mic, unless you are six years old and his wrestling skills are far worst then lackluster.

Cena is one of the best mic workers the WWE currently has and his wrestling skills are far from lackluster. He has proven time and time again that he can not only deliver on the mic but he can also deliver in the ring.

They made him a title that spins and has f"d the whole champions look.

And that title is one of the highest selling items in the history of the WWE.

He has terrible matches,

You've obviously been living under a rock for a while. He has been having very good matches with guys you would have never thought could even have a good match.

every match he gets his ass beat and then comes back for the save.

Not really.

Not to mention his tag team matches were he sits on the apron the whole match and wrestles and wins in two sec. The guy has drive ill give him that, he is a hypocrite and a loser when it coes to wrestling. Real wrestling!

Explain to me how he is a hypocrite. As far as being a loser i'd say he is a winner. He has had a successful career thus far and he is only getting better.

Kurt angle, chris benoit, chris jericho, brock lesner, bret hart, ect. These are the names that should be mentioned in the best list.

All of those names are good wrestlers. Yet Cena has become more popular than them and he is not considered a good wrestler.

Cena being mentioned makes me sick and worried as to where wrestling is headed.

Wrestling is heading to a very good direction and it has a bright future.

I have watched wrestling for 10 years and this is by far the worst over pushed i have ever seen. Just because kids and wiggers love him doesn't make him great. Cena is trash and people who think otherwise don't know what wrestling is all about.

I have been watching wrestling for 11 years of my life and he is not over-pushed. I am also neither a kid or a "wigger" and yet I still like him. So it just proves that not only do kids and "wiggers likes him but there's people of all ages that like him.

If it were up to me cena would be fired and i would watch him go to roh or tna and gt boooood by others. Wwe markets kids, well if cena were to go other places his lackluster abilities would make him lackluster too just like his movie and rap career. Remember him going and wrestling at the ecw arena with ecw fans?

If you were to fire Cena you would be making a very big mistake that you would regret for a long time. Why would you fire your top draw? That just makes no sense in any way you try and look at it.

Cena = Crap

No it doesn't

 

[BooCocky]

cena is terrible on the mic, unless you are six years old and his wrestling skills are far worst then lackluster.

You must not be paying too much attention to John Cena. He hardly ever botches it, he speaks clearly, he can't help it they give him some cheesy things to say.

They made him a title that spins and has f"d the whole champions look.

Stone Cold had his own belt and no one had a problem with that.

He has terrible matches, every match he gets his ass beat and then comes back for the save.

Like I already said, he has had the most consistent matches in the WWE since he's become a main eventer. Good match with JBL, Khali, Umaga, HBK, Big Slow, Lashley, etc etc.

Not to mention his tag team matches were he sits on the apron the whole match and wrestles and wins in two sec.

Yeah because being the fresher man wouldn't help you in a tag match

The guy has drive ill give him that, he is a hypocrite and a loser when it coes to wrestling. Real wrestling!

What does he do on a weekly basis? Wresltle, he entertains the vast majority of the WWE fans. He's far from a loser, also.

Kurt angle, chris benoit, chris jericho, brock lesner, bret hart, ect. These are the names that should be mentioned in the best list.

The only one you mentioned on that list who was truly great was Hart, and that's debateable.

Cena being mentioned makes me sick and worried as to where wrestling is headed. I have watched wrestling for 10 years and this is by far the worst over pushed i have ever seen.

Yeah because him being the biggest draw, bringing in millions and millions of dollars. He moves to the mid card to give Orton something fresh, and Orton kills the ratings... You're the hypocrite, backing a wrestler as boring as Randy Orton.

Just because kids and wiggers love him doesn't make him great.

O god, not the wannabe gangster and children talk. I know and see plenty of adults who wear Cena gear, and support Cena at a show. The only people who dislike Cena are the ROH marks who believe the sole purpose is to execute a bunch of flips with no flow whatsoever.

Cena is trash and people who think otherwise don't know what wrestling is all about.

It's about entertaining the vast majority of the fans. Which Cena does.

If it were up to me cena would be fired and i would watch him go to roh or tna and gt boooood by others.

He'd make TNA a lot of money. Seeing as how he draws and shit. He'd also wrestle circles around your boy Danielson. If you were to fire Cena, who would you put in his position? Orton a proven no draw? Jericho? Another proven no draw? HBK, another proven no draw?

Wwe markets kids, well if cena were to go other places his lackluster abilities would make him lackluster too just like his movie and rap career. Remember him going and wrestling at the ecw arena with ecw fans?

LOL. You brought up the die hard 40 ECW fans. rofl.. Good one.

Cena = Crap

not really.

Dumbest thing I've ever read.

what, rated rko13's post?

 

[FloydFixation]

In no way is Cena better than Bret Hart. My dislike of John Cena is only due to every predictable outcome of a match he is in. That's one reason I didn't like Hulk Hogan. It's always near the end when he "Cenas Up" and then he wins after his opponent dominates the entire match. It's an insult to everyone watching and everyone he faces.

 

[GSM]

This whole Cena hating was ridicolous from the very beginning.

At first everybody liked him because he had his raps and his overall white rapper gimmick.
Then he turned face but still had his rapper gimmick and some people began to say that he was better off as a heel, but no other big complains.

Then he became WWE champion and stayed it for some time, some people began to say that Cena is no longer innovative and stale and boring.

Then Cena went on to win several titles over the years and became the most important worker of the WWE today.
Then the people beganto say that Cena has only 4 moves, no agility and no mic-talent and that he is boring and so on ....

Well I´ll try to analyse the main complaints :

Cena has only 4 moves
Ok, Cena probably wasn´t trained in the Hart dungeon and no he probably isn´t the most innovative in terms of grapples and holds, but he still has a moveset that fits his stature and his character.

Cena has no mic-talent
To claim that Cena has no mic-talent is far beyond ridicolous because his mic-talent was one of the main reasons he made it into the main event. His raps and his overall mic-skills are superior to 90% of the rest of the WWE roster.

Cena has no good matches
Now do these people consider a good match ?
A 60 minutes ironman Match between Bret Hart and Kenta Kobashi ? Oh please just because somebody doesn´t do a technical firework in the ring everytime doesn´t mean that he has no good matches.
Cena´s matches with Edge and others always turn out good.
Because I consider a bad match a match with constant botches and no psychologie which Cena nearly always delievers.

Cena´s finisher sucks
So Cena´s finisher sucks ? And now ?
Cena´s finisher is over and even though I´m a fan of realistic looking finishers (Punt etc...) I think the move fits Cena´s character or would you be satisfied if Cena would start using the moonsault ? I don´t think so.

He only has kiddies as fanbase
Ok a big part of Cena´s fanbase consits of children around the age of 8-12, so what ? So did Hogan´s fanbase and even Warriors but nobody camplains about Hogan´s fanbase. He wasn´t meant to be a kids favourite, he became one and I believe that if the Undertaker would have become such a kids favourite nobody would´ve bothered.

So overall most of these complaints are rather weak and only a few of these haters could defend their opinion without the use of the words ******,bastard or sux.

And that´s about it.

 

[FloydFixation]

I'm not a hater, I'm a disliker. I give credit to the guy for entertaining people. I like his Wrestlemania matches and other matches here and there, but 95% of his matches are predictable and that's why I dislike him. Is it his fault? I don't know.

 

[SavageTaker]

In no way is Cena better than Bret Hart.

The only thing Bret Hart is better at then John Cena is his technical wrestling ability. Other than technical wrestling John Cena has him beat in probably every other aspect of professional wrestling.

My dislike of John Cena is only due to every predictable outcome of a match he is in.

So every match he is in is predictable? Not really. I think that a lot of people didn't think that John Cena would actually lose at Wrestlemania 24 in the triple threat match. Another good example that his matches aren't so predictable as you say they are is his match with Batista, there was a lot of people who thought Cena was going to win this one but he didn't. Or how about the Royal Rumble last year? No one was expecting to see him come out and it was pretty unpredictable if you ask me. It just goes to show you that not all of his matches are predictable.

That's one reason I didn't like Hulk Hogan. It's always near the end when he "Cenas Up" and then he wins after his opponent dominates the entire match. It's an insult to everyone watching and everyone he faces.

Wait a minute here. So it insults anyone he faces even though they know that is going to happen in the match ?

 

[GSM]

I used the term "hater" because so many people that dislike Cena state that they "hate" Cena which is a stupid statement to make, dislike is a better term but hate ? What for ? Because he is succesful and someones favourite wrestler not ? His fault not Cena´s.

Oh and sorry for my double post.

 

[CH David]

they all have a limited amount of moves they pull off in the ring. i swear if i dont see a flying knee , some slaps, some kicks, and a gts from punk, i must be dreaming.

If you think that Punk only has like 3 or 4 moves, you are dreaming. Watch some of his matches from ROH or a couple of other indy promotions. He doesn't have a limited amount of moves, he just isn't able to bring out his whole arsenal. Don't ask me why though.

As for Cena. I hated Cena for most of 2007 and into 2008, because I had thought about the "5 Moves of Doom". But I realized I was wrong. As far as wrestling goes, he performs what he can do well. He does get beat up for most of the match and make the comeback, so that kind of gets old for me, but I can deal with that. He isn't a great technical wrestler, but he does what he can and he does it well.

As an entertainer, Cena is definitely one of the best in the business today. He goes out and entertains the fans to the best of his abilities. He isn't Bret Hart in the ring, (or in the current days Kurt Angle), and he isn't the Rock on the mic. But no one else is either, no matter how much we wish there was someone like that. He does what he loves, and the passion he has for the company and business, he truly is one of the best entertainers in the business right now.

 

[jellmoo]

John Cena isn't my favorite wrestler, but he sure isn't the worst ever. I respect the guy because there aren't many people who have given as much as he has to the business, done as much charity work, and remained as humble as he has (I met the guy at a bar a little more than a year ago, and he was a genuinely nice guy).

His moveset isn't great. The 5 moves of doom is kind of accurate. I would argue though that he executes those moves really well. Guys like CM Punk might have more moves in their arsenal, but he looks like shit pulling them off. Jeff Hardy might have more "exciting" moves, but he flops around like a fish doing them.

I think that 90% of the problems with Cena right now are on the booking end. His matches are predictable because they are booked and fixed that way, not because he sucks. His promos are off the mark because the material he has is sophomoric.

A small repackage, dropping the goofier aspects of the character and I think he'd be well on his way to being the top guy that Vince sees in him.

 

[codebreaker212p]

You are on crack, Cena cant wrestle at all. Every matcxh he's in he gets his ass handed to him 90% of the time then wins with 2 moves. Hell, even hornswaggle can outwrestle Cena. Seriously how old are you?

 

[SavageTaker]

You are on crack,

Not really. I'm a clean man I swear. In all seriousness how is the rest of your post suppose to be taken serious when you start out with a statement like that?

Cena cant wrestle at all.

If he couldn't wrestle do you think Vince would even make him the top guy? Let alone let him work for his company? I can answer that for you, no he wouldn't and no.

It has already been stated quite a few times that he can indeed wrestle and he can have good matches and he can even pull out good matches out of people like Khali.

Every matcxh he's in he gets his ass handed to him 90% of the time

That's the way he is booked in order to build up to his comeback in the match. It's a formula that has worked for a long time and it will continue working.

then wins with 2 moves.

Not really.

Hell, even hornswaggle can outwrestle Cena.

From what we have seen he can't and I doubt he could.

Seriously how old are you?

How would my age be relevant as to why Cena sucks which is what you are trying to prove in your argument?

 

[Mr. Steve]

You are on crack, Cena cant wrestle at all. Every matcxh he's in he gets his ass handed to him 90% of the time then wins with 2 moves. Hell, even hornswaggle can outwrestle Cena. Seriously how old are you?

That's called "putting the opponent over", which is the whole point that he gets his ass handed to him 90% of the match. And he can do that so well. Go look at Jack Swagger vs. Cena. Swagger didn't win it but he looked like he really was making Cena his "bitsh" *done with Jack Swagger's voice*

I admit i disliked him, but that very match won me over...because he put Swagger over.

I'm not exactly a Cena fan but i don't hate him neither. there's my

 

[GSM]

Yes we´re all on crack because we think that Cena can wrestle, wow what a great argument against my statement.

That is what I meant earlier, one simply can´t argue with Cena haters because they simply won´t reply to what someone said, they just say that Cena sux and so on and the whole thing starts over and over again, oh that´s really a blast.

 

[NOLUBEZ]

First off I am definitely not a Cena fan but to say he should be fired is some of the stupidest shit ever he generated more money than anybody else on the roster the last couple years so from a business standpoint that would be downright ******ed. I'm sure there is a couple guys that Vince isn't impressed by but as long as they put asses in seats they're not going anywhere and ultimately that's what wrestling is all about.

 

[Black Snow]

I want to preface this by saying that I can appreciate anyone's passion for any wrestler be they a wrestler I also I love or someone I can't stand. If any wrestler can get a fan emotional then said wrestler has done their job. It's also always nice to have more wrestling fans even if their philosophy on what makes a great wrestler is completely opposite of my own. So if Cena makes you tune into RAW every week and thoroughly entertains you, SavageTaker, then good for you.

Now, that being said, I really don't like John Cena the wrestler/superstar. I think people are very valid in mentioning his five moves of doom and the comparisons to Hulk Hogan. Cena does typically follow a pattern of shoulderblocks, Protoplex, dangerous legdrop off the ropes that I feel will eventually snap his leg in two, five knuckle shuffle, FU and STF. I also agree with those that say a lot of other wrestlers follow the same pattern. People in the WWE have to wrestle "WWE style" which includes eliminating a lot of their offense in favor of signature moves. Although, I do believe a lot of other wrestlers have had more moves to eliminate in the first place than Cena. A lot of other wrestlers also are better at transiting and busting out their so-called five moves of doom at unexpected times in order to freshen up their matches. On the flip side, Cena is like a bull in a China shop just going from move to move with little rhyme nor reason.

I also don't buy the line about how Cena has supposedly had good matches with below average wrestlers. Umaga? He's not a below average wrestler. He's an amazing big man. Khali? Sorry, those weren't good matches in my book. They were pure and utter garbage. Carbon copy those opinions on Big Show as well. That submission match made me want to put a gun in my mouth. Lashley is hardly as bad as he's made out to be. He's average like Cena. Two average guys made an average match. Nothing amazing about that.

Listen, Cena can wrestle. As long as he's in the ring with someone competent he'll probably have a decent match. But he's not going to have the best match. Cena/Batista was insanely overrated. It was basically two guys just hitting signature move after signature move on one another with little build up or story. Edge has had better matches with 'Taker and friggin' Batista than he has Cena. Not to say his matches with Cena weren't good. I think that's what annoys me the most about hardcore Cena fans. They make it so hard for me to stand up for them. I agree that far too many people out there just trash him for no reason. But then I look at the other end of the spectrum and Cena fans are saying that he's the GREATEST wrestler today and that he has the GREATEST promos? I mean, come on. Both sides are a tad delusional for my taste.

Overall I would consider Cena to be an average wrestler. He's hardly crap in the ring like some suggest but he's also nowhere remotely near even a top 25 wrestlers of all time list. His best matches in the WWE were in 2003. I recommend both fans and haters of Cena to rewatch some of that action. It's quite interesting especially now that we're so far removed from it.

On the mic, I can't apologize for Cena in any way. His promos have been described perfectly by Jericho and now Miz. Cena is a panderer plain and simple. One of the biggest things that has hurt him is his respect garbage. Prior to WrestleMania 22 Hunter would bury Cena on the mic. In turn Cena would grin and talk about how much he respects Hunter. What? Listen, I don't care if you're a super heel or Kool-Aid smile face. When someone runs you down have a set and say something back. Don't just take it like a bitch. Cena comes off as a complete boob in these situations. Then, all he does is talk about respecting the fans and how everything he does is for them. Of course, along the way he slowly raises his voice. It's much like Steve Carrell in "Anchorman." "I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!" Volume doesn't equal passion. It feels forced and manufactured. It feels much again like Hogan talking about the three demandments. I miss the old John Cena who had cutting raps that held nothing sacred. The face Cena is exactly the opposite. Everything he says must be PG and preapproved. The writers are to blame but so is Cena.

It's hard for me to buy the line that Cena is the greatest entertainer today. You know why he's not? Because a great entertainer manages to get the job done no matter what the fans think. Look at Eddie Guerrero. When he was a heel he had the fans in the palm of his hand. They'd boo if he looked at them funny. He was so good at his job that the fans turned him face even when he was still acting like a heel. As a face they continued to love every one of his actions. Eddie would modify his actions in the ring to get the reaction he wanted. He controlled the fans.

Cena does not do this. Every week for the last 4-5 years now Cena goes out and gets a 50/50 reaction. If the fans are a little more in his corner or a little more against him on any given night he still does the same routine. If he gets booed he just grins like an idiot and does the same stuff. Just a few years ago when the booing first got really bad Cena looked absolutely terrified in the ring. Take a look at the aforementioned WrestleMania 22. The poor boy was a deer in the headlights.

That being said, Cena could benefit so much from a heel turn. I believe I even heard in an interview that he wants to turn heel. He wants to test his range. The problem is that Vince won't allow it since he still sees Cena as his merchandise cash cow. I think a Cena heel turn would help everyone. Cena would need to work harder in the ring to get the face over so his workrate would be back around where it was in 2003. Cena fans would have something to hang their hat on by showing Cena is versatile. Cena haters would have a storyline reason to boo him. I even believe that all of the supposed people that just boo him because it's cool would disappear. I believe we'd all be able to meet each other in the middle.

Like I said earlier, if you like Cena then go ahead. More power to you. I just wanted to weigh in. I see Cena as an average entertainer. He has the potential to be so much more but isn't right now. Great wrestler? No. Great promo guy? No. But he manages to entertain half the fans so as much as he's doing wrong he's doing just as much right.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I joined this community because I thought there would be some sensible discussions. This thread has completely put me off from getting involved.

People are actually comparing Cena to Bret Hart.

People are just quoting and counter quoting just using their own silly opinions without any evidence or corroborating opinions.

Yes, these forums suck.

Well my friend, if you think these forums suck and yet keep posting in them you are contributing to the "suckiness" you claim these forums have.

Cena is one of the best entertainers and performers in the WWE has right now. He takes care of his opponent in the ring and entertains the crowd and has performed some of the best matches in the past five years. Anybody that thinks otherwise has a blind hatred for Cena or can't come up with a more convincing argument.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

You are on crack, Cena cant wrestle at all. Every matcxh he's in he gets his ass handed to him 90% of the time then wins with 2 moves. Hell, even hornswaggle can outwrestle Cena. Seriously how old are you?

This quite possibly could be the dumbest post I have ever read in these forums. Hornswoggle is quite a stretch, don't you think. If you are stating about him getting his ass handed to him 90% of the time as a basis for your argument then you need to apply it to almost every face in the WWE.

 

[THE Madcap]

Why John Cena is one of the best wrestlers and entertainers there is today in my opinion.​

I am not one of the Cena haters and I obviously have different beliefs about John Cena than they do. I believe he is one of the best wrestlers and entertainers there is today.

I totally agree. Thank you!

One of the main reasons why he is one of the best at what he does is because he does his job to the best of his abilities and always tried hard to entertain the fans no matter how much the boo him. He doesn’t care if you are booing him, he will still try and entertain you and possibly change your mind about him. He has passion and love for wrestling and it shows no matter how much the fans try to hate him.

Thanks again for making this obvious for the haters. NOBODY can question his heard and passion for the business. Even if you hate him and boo him to shit, he'll still gonna give a show for his fans. I mean, fuck, didn't his dad get spat on once in Toronto during a Cena match? I would have flipped if that was me.

He also catches a lot of heat for only doing 5 apparent moves. These moves have been nicknames the “5 moves of doom”. I could not disagree more with the people that don’t like him or hate him because he only does 5 apparent moves. His job is to be an entertainer.

Again, a great point, he is an entertainer and really, there a finite number of moves that can be used by the roster, not everyone can have a 100 move arsenal.

Furthermore...here a list of moves typically used by Cena:

AA (FU)
STF(U)
Throwback
Fisherman's suplex
Top rope leg drop
Back powerbomb
5 knuckle shuffle
Lou Thesz press
Shoulder block
Bulldog
Drop toe hold

even a monkey can see that's more than 5 moves...

Now on to another reason why I like John Cena and consider him one of the best wrestlers/entertainers there is today. His promos. He knows how to handle the stick and has some of the best promos there is today. He is not my number 1 favorite promo cutter but he is definitely on my top 10 list of my favorite promo cutters. He always has some very good intensity when doing his promos and when given some of the cheesiest lines he is still good. More than half the times you will buy into what he is saying and in my opinion he makes people believe what he is saying.

I agree with this as well, and more so, back in the day, his promos were epic. The one of his early feud with the Undertaker seems to stick in my mind

Another point not touched upon is his ability to adapt...

Remember ECW ONS 2006?

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in this match, Cena initially was meant to be the face, but due to the reaction he was getting, completely adapted his game to be the heel. I can't find the exact vid I was looking for but if anything, Cena came off better for this match IMO.

 

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First off I am definitely not a Cena fan but to say he should be fired is some of the stupidest shit ever he generated more money than anybody else on the roster the last couple years so from a business standpoint that would be downright ******ed. I'm sure there is a couple guys that Vince isn't impressed by but as long as they put asses in seats they're not going anywhere and ultimately that's what wrestling is all about.
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What? wait what? this is not about money this is about wrestling and yes vince would hire someone who couldn't wrestle if it meant money. He likes money more then talent thats why we lost so many good superstars over the years. Orton said it best cena is a marketing bitch, and he needs to improve his wrestling skills. Triple h said it on national tv, hell i remember a raw where cena said "i might not be the best wrestler but i can sure fight". Well this is wrestling not ufc!

I read a reply from some eminem fan, who evidently proves my point as to who cena fans are. Sorry rap is not music and cena can't wrestle.

FACT: Cena = BS

We wonder why the ratings will never be 8.0's again now there 3.4's average, because they push cena to damn much and half the kids are asleep and the adults are falling asleep by his crappy wrestling.

Its just a damn opinion get over yourself and out of cena's ass!