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Coco.
The Final Poll
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I voted based on the belief I felt each candidate thought they could be a good mod. Ultimately I voted Dagger with Crock closely behind and Coco the Monkey not even considered.
Even though this was just for a moderator position, I was under the impression that this election was supposed to be a somewhat legitimate process but it turned out to be a huge joke.
Even though this was just for a moderator position, I was under the impression that this election was supposed to be a somewhat legitimate process but it turned out to be a huge joke.
Hey, so you're kind of stupid, huh?
ScreaminNormanSmiley
formerly ScreaminNormanSmiley
I thought that it was the other part of his post that implied that.
That just proves he's misinformed. Thinking that this was going to be a respectable process? Now that's a gas.
shattered dreams
Hexagonal Hedonist
Interesting to look at the poll thus far in the context of what the parties initial member list count was
Coco4lulz party, 42 members initially - Coco has 35 votes
Whatever the other party is, 26 members initially - Crock has 22 votes
ABC party, 51 members initially - Dagger has 19 votes
Somewhat ironically both other parties talked about how the ABC party was just some mindless blob that would be voting along party lines and yet here we are at the election and it appears they are the only one that hasn't thus far. Even more amusing they didn't vote for anyone yet. It is certainly possible that the less spam active membership is the real issue here as this just kind of popped up at lower activity level time. It could also be all the nonsense caused them to not think this was worth their time anymore. I would have much preferred to see someone win because they convinced people to vote for them instead of just berating everyone with shit until they said to hell with it and moved on to things with more substance. Fostering disinterest would seem to be the antithesis of what a good mod should do and so of course it makes perfect sense that is what is currently deciding the election.
Coco4lulz party, 42 members initially - Coco has 35 votes
Whatever the other party is, 26 members initially - Crock has 22 votes
ABC party, 51 members initially - Dagger has 19 votes
Somewhat ironically both other parties talked about how the ABC party was just some mindless blob that would be voting along party lines and yet here we are at the election and it appears they are the only one that hasn't thus far. Even more amusing they didn't vote for anyone yet. It is certainly possible that the less spam active membership is the real issue here as this just kind of popped up at lower activity level time. It could also be all the nonsense caused them to not think this was worth their time anymore. I would have much preferred to see someone win because they convinced people to vote for them instead of just berating everyone with shit until they said to hell with it and moved on to things with more substance. Fostering disinterest would seem to be the antithesis of what a good mod should do and so of course it makes perfect sense that is what is currently deciding the election.
Tommy "Two-Times" Mozzarella;3666064 said:
She cowered away? Since when? She gave her opinion, she defended it, and she had two choices. She could have had a pointless argument with you that would have no doubt gone long into the night, or she could have gracefull stepped aside when she realized you're so stuck on the Anti-Dagger bandwagon that nothing she says is going to even register with you.
Other then "She voted for Dagger, so she must be an idiot", of course. Even when she laid out her reasons for voting for Dagger, you said she said nothing of substance. Why would she want to continue to argue with you when you obviously only saw her as trying to "incite a response", when she clearly pointed out her reasoning for voting Dagger as well?
DirtyJosé
Best angle of all: retirement
Because she didn't say much of substance. To be fair, neither did Mozz. It's just more of the same shit.
Sally: OMG, I VOTED DAGGERZ CUZ I JUST THIK HE'S TEH BEST, IMAGINE THAT. YOU GUYS ARE ALL HATERS.
Mozz: OMG, Y U NO VOTE COCO LIKE I DID...OR LIKE I WANTED TOO...N E WAY, Y U NO GIVE REASONS FOR TEH VOTE?!
Sally: OMG, I VOTED DAGGERZ CUZ I JUST THIK HE'S TEH BEST, IMAGINE THAT. YOU GUYS ARE ALL HATERS.
Mozz: OMG, Y U NO VOTE COCO LIKE I DID...OR LIKE I WANTED TOO...N E WAY, Y U NO GIVE REASONS FOR TEH VOTE?!
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Yeah LSN, you're full of shit.
C'mon, we're not voting for the freaking President. It's a mod of a wrestling forum. It doesn't matter if they'll be good or not.
Serious Mozzarella
Special Victims Unit
If she was willing to make a comment about the decisions other people made, she should have been willing to defend herself when someone responded. I don't even give a shit about whom anyone else votes for. I posted in the WAYVFD thread with my own reasons for not voting for him, I talked about who I voted for, my reasons for that, and that was it.
If you think this is just a bandwagon people are jumping on, simply because they disagree with your position on Dagger, than you're more full of shit than I thought you were a few weeks ago, when you started throwing your "dissenter" crap around the bar room.
I'm not stuck on anything. I don't give one single shit about how she votes, but if she was going to make inaccurate little observations about how the "anti-Dagger bandwagon" has conducted themselves throughout this election, then she'd better be prepared for the response she, and everyone else knew she was trying to get.
I never said she was an idiot for voting for Dagger, and I never once said it throughout the election. You're making shit up in order to paint the entire "bandwagon" as one person with one idea, because you're so blinded by trying to defend your own beliefs, that you've lost grip of reason. I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
I don't think the forum will suffer if Dagger becomes a mod. I just think Crock will do a better job. And I think Coco will be more entertaining. Don't put someone else's words in my mouth because of a completely unrelated agreement we have.
I saw her as trying to incite a response, because she said "I did.......basing my vote on one thing: Which candidate I thought would make the best Mod!" and then wrote three paragraphs criticizing everyone's behavior. If you're going to sit here and tell me that I'm grasping at straws by saying she's trying to incite a response, then not only are you full of shit, being disingenuous, but you're being an idiot too.
It seems to me that the Dagger argument has gone like this:
Dagger detractors: Don't vote Dagger for reasons x, y and z.
Dagger supporters: Dagger would make a great mod.
Dagger detractors: Why?
Dagger supporters: He's a nice guy
Dagger detractors: No he isn't, he tried to get Tastycles fired. Give a proper reason.
Dagger supporters:
Dagger detractors: Exactly
Dagger supporters: Yeah, well you can't prove your reasons.
Dagger detractors: Lots of evidence of x, y and z.
Dagger supporters:
Several days pass, new thread.
Dagger detractors: Something negative proven elsewhere
Dagger supporters: You're just on the bandwagon!
As yet nobody has proven there to be any reason to vote for Dagger Dias. I can see why you might think Coco would take the piss, but I can't see any reason whatsoever for picking Dagger over Crock, unless inane circular posts are your bag.
In pages and pages of drivel, the only thing positive that anyone has had to say about Dagger is that he is a nice guy, he tries hard and he drives discussion.
1) Nice guys don't try and get people fired
2) Trying too hard has caused Dagger to over report, and was mentioned by Sly in his debate as being a pain in the arse.
3) Dagger went on a posting spree on January 18th. On that day he posted in 9 threads in my section, General Wrestling Discussion. He solicited one reply, which was this:
I don't know how we'd cope without that sort of discussion being driven.
The other reasons for voting Dagger were essentially reasons not to vote for Coco. Well, fine, you don't like Coco, vote Crock. He's everything Dagger is claiming to be, except better.
If you don't vote Coco, vote Crock.
If you don't vote Crock, vote Coco.
If you think that Dagger Dias is the best potential moderator, give up trying to ever be one, because you clearly haven't got a fucking clue about what it entails.
Dagger detractors: Don't vote Dagger for reasons x, y and z.
Dagger supporters: Dagger would make a great mod.
Dagger detractors: Why?
Dagger supporters: He's a nice guy
Dagger detractors: No he isn't, he tried to get Tastycles fired. Give a proper reason.
Dagger supporters:
Dagger detractors: Exactly
Dagger supporters: Yeah, well you can't prove your reasons.
Dagger detractors: Lots of evidence of x, y and z.
Dagger supporters:
Several days pass, new thread.
Dagger detractors: Something negative proven elsewhere
Dagger supporters: You're just on the bandwagon!
As yet nobody has proven there to be any reason to vote for Dagger Dias. I can see why you might think Coco would take the piss, but I can't see any reason whatsoever for picking Dagger over Crock, unless inane circular posts are your bag.
In pages and pages of drivel, the only thing positive that anyone has had to say about Dagger is that he is a nice guy, he tries hard and he drives discussion.
1) Nice guys don't try and get people fired
2) Trying too hard has caused Dagger to over report, and was mentioned by Sly in his debate as being a pain in the arse.
3) Dagger went on a posting spree on January 18th. On that day he posted in 9 threads in my section, General Wrestling Discussion. He solicited one reply, which was this:
I don't know how we'd cope without that sort of discussion being driven.
The other reasons for voting Dagger were essentially reasons not to vote for Coco. Well, fine, you don't like Coco, vote Crock. He's everything Dagger is claiming to be, except better.
If you don't vote Coco, vote Crock.
If you don't vote Crock, vote Coco.
If you think that Dagger Dias is the best potential moderator, give up trying to ever be one, because you clearly haven't got a fucking clue about what it entails.
DirtyJosé;3666541 said:
If saying nothing of substance means disagreeing with the status quo, then you're correct.
She correctly pointed out how this election has turned into personal criticism of someone that has nothing to do with why people should be voting. However, people are entitled to vote on whatever criteria they choose. But why people vote and how they vote are two different things.
She also rightfully pointed out the flaws in this process, and she pointed out how she felt Crock and CoCo would make fine Mods, while pointing out how Dagger would be a better one.
But clearly, no substance there at all.
I'm more then willing to hear how. If you're right, I'll own it.
Tommy "Two-Times" Mozzarella;3666652 said:
Except she did respond, twice. Tell me how that's her not defending her position?
When have I once given my position on Dagger? Find a post where I came out and supported Dagger. One post.
I'd say she was ready for it, as she was quite accurate in her observations of how this election has progressed, and she was just as accurate when she defended her position in saying that you missed the point of her post.
Quite the contrary. I was defending one person, and that was Sally. Again, what beliefs am I so blinded by? Perhaps these beliefs?
At least read my actual opinion before you throw around statements like myself being "blindeed by beliefs." If anything, I spoke most favorably of CoCo here.
I don't believe I have. But as I've clearly shown, this is exactly what you've done.
Again, show me where I said she wasn't trying to incite a response. I'm sure she was. It just so happens that her observations were correct, in my eyes. People have been critical of Dagger, CoCo, and Crock's behavior the entire election, and Sally simply and correctly pointed this out. I'm sure she expected a response. Where am I grasping at straws, exactly?
Regarding Sally? Damn right, I did. I'm defending my good friend, who I happen to mostly agree with here. I respect her opinion, and value her friendship. We all defend our friends on here, I'm no different. I'd do the same for you.
I'm not faulting you for white knighting. I'm faulting you for not picking your battles wisely.
In terms of defending Sally?
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
The fuck is the point of this whole thing then?
HBKistheHOF
Guest
"Well What If I vote for a third party candidate?"
"GO AHEAD! THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY!"
"Don't Blame me. I woted for Kodos."
"GO AHEAD! THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY!"
"Don't Blame me. I woted for Kodos."
I like him, and think he's a good dude. I disagree with him entirely on homosexuality, and don't like what he did with regards to Tasty, whatsoever. But in knowing him personally, I think he's mostly a good guy who's sincere. I do believe you and Crock are safer, not necessarily better, but safer choices.
Someone who I believe if modded would work extremely hard to become a good Moderator. Would he be successful? Honestly, Im not sure. You and Crock are the safer choices.
If you need me to be more specific on something I said, just ask.
Yes. Kind of. Sally's arguments were ridiculously weak, and if she was going to come in with that weak shit, she should expect to receive the type of reaction she got. She's a terrific poster, I don't think anyone can deny that, but she was out of her element when she decided to make that post.
Mozz and Jose had just as much right to make their comebacks as Sally had to throw her hat into the ring. You have every right to defend her as well, it's just not going so well because her opening post was dumb.
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