The ABC Party

[LSN80]

I just returned from holiday vacation, so I was unaware of the full details as I left both my phone and my laptop at home, so Ive been out of the loop other then what I knew beforehand, which was LITTLE. The reason I agreed to join here was because of the group of people involved, which is among my favorite posters on the site. Habs would be my frontrunner regardless, no matter the section, and I'd also fully throw my weight behind the likes of Dagger, FunKay, and Mitch(and more). Some of my best conversations on this site have come with most of the people in this group, so why wouldnt I support them? It has nothing to do with section, simply who I think would do the best job. And those in this group, Habs first and foremost, are those people. I think hes been long overdue for a mod spot, personally, and would do a great job. SO would Dagger. He's a posting machine who's incredibly active.

I will check out the group with regards to my section, but those in this group are amongst the the best posters Ive dealt with. With regards to Killiam, Im not sure whyn the bridge needs to be made between here and the main site, because the latter sucks. Not him personally, but the news and most columns do. Perhaps he can convince me otherwise.

 

[Remy LaCroix]

Zeven_Zion anyone?

 

[The_Reptile_]

So... are these parties invite only? Because if not I'd like to throw my hat in the ABC. I see it's filled with a lot of posters that I have respect for in my year here at WZ and I'd like to give it my support.

 

[IHW]

I dont think they are invite only....
but im sure we would be glad to take you.

 

[ABMorales787]

Yeah, it's not invite only. You're welcome to join.

 

[hatehabsforever]

So... are these parties invite only? Because if not I'd like to throw my hat in the ABC. I see it's filled with a lot of posters that I have respect for in my year here at WZ and I'd like to give it my support.

No, it's not by invitation only, everyone is welcome. Thanks for your support, and welcome to the team!

Edit: Killjoy beat me to it.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

With regards to Killiam, Im not sure whyn the bridge needs to be made between here and the main site, because the latter sucks. Not him personally, but the news and most columns do. Perhaps he can convince me otherwise.

I definitely respect your opinion, but I happen to think WZ is far and away the best Wrestling-based aggregate and news site out there. Maybe not the longest or most respected, that will probably always go to F4W, but I really can't stand spending more than a few minutes on their site. They have 3 words of news, followed by the same blurb about their "newsletter" on EVERY post.

Maybe I'm a bit jaded because I've been around Wrestlezone for as long as I have been, and because they give me another outlet to write, but I don't think they're as bad as many (particularly in the spam section) claim they are. Granted, there's definitely room for improvement. I'm glad to see we've lessened the amount of pointless Twitter updates, and our exclusives are at the very least, more reputable than most sites out there.

As I said, there's room to grow and to change, and that's why I'd like to be the bridge between the main site and the forums. There are a lot of brilliant people (and a lot of stupid people) in here whose ideas could produce an excellent site given the chance. Obviously Wrestlezone can't just let anyone log in and do whatever they want, and that's why there's a division of "power", if you will. As both a main page writer and a forums guy, I empathize with the complaining that goes on, as well as the negative attitude a lot of mainstream people have with some sections of the forums. I love them all, and that's why I'm here.

Honestly, I don't even know if in the end I'll want to run for a mod position. I have a lot on my plate already, and we just launched another new feature that I'm in charge of. Adding all that to my "real life" there just may not be enough time for me to seriously commit to the responsibility. But I'll stick around here and try and help out, and we'll deal with that when the time comes.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Mustang Sally is by far the most qualified member of this party. I don't want to scream sexism but the glass ceiling in this party is so thick that it is bulletproof.

For shame.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Here is our updated roster of 29, with hopefully more to follow.

hatehabsforever
deanerandterry
Big Sexy
Mustang Sally
Dagger Dias
Little Jerry Lawler
The Rattlesnake
JWGunslinger
Mike “The Kid” Killam
Hawkeye
Notorious718
JAM
“Hollywood” Prophet
Theo Westside
Professor S.K. Falkon
Davi323
Hamily Guy
The Killjoy
The Dragon Saga
The Bearded One
Doppleganger
vampireblade
FitFinlay4Life
theIHWrestling
Jack-Hammer
FunKay
LSN80
JJYanks121
The_Reptile

 

[ABMorales787]

Well, I have some free time. So I might as well kill it here by writing my thoughts on every current section in the forum and what I'd do.

• WWE Section
  
  There are enough moderators for this particular section to maintain it in order. However, the amount of "*OFFICIAL* All Discussion" threads really cuts down subjects. I realize people post lot's of duplicate topics due to it being WWE, meaning there's lots to talk about, but if the thread isn't good enough, I wouldn't merge it. I'd just trash it. Same with any thread pitching some ridiculous idea which tends to end up in the Spam section. The idea will be dumb wherever it's put. The ability to ridicule these ideas in a Spam environment opens the doors to flaming.​
• TNA Section
  
  I won't lie. It's the section I always pay attention to and am most interested on. I feel it has a lack of appreciation of sorts. IDR isn't always around, so Spam, spoilers and such sneak in easily and can go unnoticed. I don't like it. It gives it a bit of a sense of disorganization in comparison to the other sections. It's also plagued by continuous bashing to TNA and it's fans. I have no problem with constructive criticism, but the "I can't wait for X guy to go to WWE" or "TNA is horrible right now" comments really don't do it for me or for a discussion of it. I feel it takes away from it and degrades it's fan's. I feel post's like them should be considered flaming. Unless you give a reasonable criticism with descriptions of the problem, viewed solution and such, I see no reason to speak then. It derails discussions into TNA fan's vs TNA haters.​
  
  
  Because it's a section I love so much, I've always felt there could be an idea pitched here in the form of a "World X Cup" style debate tournament which pits X Division talent from various companies the same way TNA did in 2004-2007. It can put the spotlight on the section for a bit while people can discuss pairings that otherwise would not get much attention in WrestleZone annual wrestler tournament.​
• General Wrestling Section
  
  With ROH expanding TV markets, CHIKARA expanding itself, AAA working closer than ever with TNA, EVOLVE and DGUSA merging and the fall of the Independant Section, I think a bit of expanding in here would be fitting. A ROH, CHIKARA, Other Indies and Lucha/Puro Sub-Sections would be nice to separate discussions about these companies from more general ones. With these sub-sections around, posters would be more encouraged to make topics on these companies without the fear of their thread falling quick off the page.​
• Hall Of Fame Section
  
  
  Not much to think of here as this is more of a special attraction than another discussion forum. However, an area to crown 5-Star Matches would add more to it as well as a Hall Of Infamy of sorts similar to Tenta's old Bad Gimmick memorial thread.​
• Old School Section
  
  
  Sadly, this section doesn't generate much traffic as most fan's are of the new age. But it's still a great place to discuss older stuff in wrestling such as WCW, the original ECW and such.​
• Cigar Lounge Section
  
  
  I believe there was once a discussion about renaming the section so it better fit's the newer format. "World News And Politics" would be a direct and to the point name. But other than that, this sections smoothly as it's usually for the more intellectual poster.​
• MMA/Boxing, Movies And TV, Music, Potluck and Sports Sections
  
  
  I don't visit these much. But as far as I can see, these are of the cleanest sections in the forum. Nothing to add in my eyes.​
• Video Games And Technology Section
  
  
  This section is also in good shape, but it's more vulnerable to spam than the other NWS areas. Someone should be assigned to it.​
• WZCW
  
  
  It's in the best hands it could be. It is the most friendly section and with the addition of it's new program, After Shock, I think what little rearranging needed to be done is done. Join WZCW, by the way.​
• The GSD
  
  
  Lee's gone from staff. Who's gonna Lee wrestling threads now?​
• The Bar Room
  
  
  There's no fun if the anarchy get's cut off from here.​
• The Wrestling Spam Section
  
  
  I feel this section could use a similar clean up to the one I suggested in the General Wrestling Section. A WWE, TNA and Indies Sub-Section's would make the place just as attractive for detailed discussion as it's non-spam equal.​
• Prison
  
  
  Someone should be assigned with the sole task of whipping whatever inmate sticks around into shape in order to let him out of just ban him.No point in having the section if the poster stays acting the same way he came in.​
• The Book This! Section
  
  
  The only Interactive Section I have a thought on. I feel it should be for more than just writing your own shows. Threads about ideal rosters and made up storylines as well as "What If's" always pop up in the Wrestling sections to little fanfare. I feel they would fit best here as they share the same idea of allowing people to be creative as writing a show.​

The ABC Party is a party with the idea of continuing the reputation of WrestleZone Forums being one of the most well organized and intellectual forums out there. We support the current moderation staff and look to add whatever help can be added. While this may have been deemed a popularity contest, we still don't forget the fact that the grand prize requires a degree of responsibility and commitment should it be officially granted to the winner.

 

[The Bearded One]

I really like a lot of KIlljoy's ideas, which is why I joined W.F.U. to begin with. Out of all of them, I think I like the Book This! idea the most. I always enjoy reading the threads about how to book a certain wrestler or situation and I think this would be the best way to help get those type of threads more responses.

 

[Theo Mays]

Seeing as I view myself as a mainstay in the Book This section, I really like Killjoy's idea. The BT section seems to be hit or miss. Sometimes it is hot, sometimes it is dreadfully dead. Anything to try and get traffic to the section. There are some great shows there and I understand people's reasoning for not participating. Lots to read, lots to write, etc. But Killjoy's idea would really bring a different approach to the section.

 

[The Bearded One]

I love reading the Book This! section when I get some time to devote. I go a few weeks without reading then I always marathon read for a while. There are some very good shows on there. I tried my own earlier this year, but I just didn't have the time to put into it. But I would actively participate in threads like what Killjoy is talking about. I always enjoy those threads.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Transferring all the "What if" threads to the Book This! section would certainly generate more traffic in that section. That's well thought of Killjoy.

 

[Viola Moonlight]

Here is our updated roster of 29, with hopefully more to follow.

hatehabsforever
deanerandterry
Big Sexy
Mustang Sally
Dagger Dias
Little Jerry Lawler
The Rattlesnake
JWGunslinger
Mike “The Kid” Killam
Hawkeye
Notorious718
JAM
“Hollywood” Prophet
Theo Westside
Professor S.K. Falkon
Davi323
Hamily Guy
The Killjoy
The Dragon Saga
The Bearded One
Doppleganger
vampireblade
FitFinlay4Life
theIHWrestling
Jack-Hammer
FunKay
LSN80
JJYanks121
The_Reptile

Basically all solid posters with a ton of potential. Glad to see some proper mods join the club as well.

 

[hatehabsforever]

And we have the addition of another guy with strong mod potential, bringing us to an even 30.

Welcome to The ABC Party, Kenny Powers.

 

[The Bearded One]

Kenny Fuckin' Powers!

 

[hatehabsforever]

And Mitch Henessey, who has to be seen as a strong contender for the non-spam non-wrestling section (if that's what he chooses).

That's #31.

 

[ABMorales787]

We're the largest party aren't we?

 

[JJYanks121]

We're the largest party aren't we?

If we're not, we should be. A lot of high quality people involved with this group.

 

[The Bearded One]

I'm not sure if we're the biggest, but we are close.

 

[Uncle Sam]

• WWE Section

You had me at the decision to end all-encompassing official threads, but then lost me when you implied that you'd simply trash additional threads. Please clarify; would you trash all threads that deal with a subject already covered or just the laughably bad ones?

• TNA Section

I feel your policy of eliminating criticisms of the product could be dangerous. Judging from how dear you supposedly hold the section to your heart, I don't see you erring on the side of caution on what constitutes a constructive criticism and what doesn't.

The World X Cup idea sounds interesting but, ironically, I'm not sure there's the interest for it.

• General Wrestling Section

No. No, no, no. First off, I don't know where you got this idea of threads falling off the front page from. Threads don't fall from the front page - it's more of a slow slide, and they do so because nobody gives a fuck, not because of high traffic; not nearly because of high traffic.

This forum receives a reasonable amount of traffic. I mean, it's not amazing but it's not appalling either. However, because of all the sections and sub-sections, progress on every page slows to a crawl and uninteresting threads sit on the front page in perpetual death throes for days or even weeks at a time. We're not Something Awful; we don't have the traffic or the strong communities to support dozens of sections. There's one community on this site; the wrestling community. Every sub-community within that one community is about a dozen people strong at best, and they're rarely committed enough to keep the sections they roam in interesting.

• Hall Of Fame Section

This is essentially a dead section. Why you want to impregnate it and force out a stillborn sub-section is beyond me. You're sick in the head is my guess.

• Old School Section

I'm surprised even sectionites don't want this fucker re-merged with General Wrestling.

• Cigar Lounge Section

The Bar Room with less humour, more rules and a word limit. At least you don't advocate adding an Abortion sub-section, though that would actually be rather fitting come to think of it.

• The GSD
  
• The Bar Room

It was easy points to point out that these two are essentially the same thing and should be merged. Money for old rope! Yet you didn't.

• The Wrestling Spam Section
  
  
  I feel this section could use a similar clean up to the one I suggested in the General Wrestling Section. A WWE, TNA and Indies Sub-Section's would make the place just as attractive for detailed discussion as it's non-spam equal.​

You can probably guess how I feel about this.

• The Book This! Section

You have some generally good ideas here. I've also long thought that more stuff could go in there than just people writing their own shows. NorCal and Will had a thread in there that was just them brainstorming potential storylines - that was pretty good.

The ABC Party is a party with the idea of continuing the reputation of WrestleZone Forums being one of the most well organized and intellectual forums out there.

I wouldn't say we have any reputation. Intellectual? Maybe. Well organized? Doubtful.

While this may have been deemed a popularity contest, we still don't forget the fact that the grand prize requires a degree of responsibility and commitment should it be officially granted to the winner.

The slightest degree of responsibility and commitment, trust me on that.

As it is, a lot (well, most) of this stuff is above your station and for admins to decide. I'm sure you probably realise that, but I'm still reluctant to even let you into the Board Room in the first place.

 

[JWGunslinger]

Welcome to the team Kenny and Mitch, we're getting more and more great posters every day!

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

I want to wish our very own Hawkeye a very happy birthday. Have a good one mate.

 

[JWGunslinger]

Happy Birthday Hawkeye!