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SummerSlam: C.M. Punk vs. JBL

So, er, ok, are we just going to have a WHC match announced the damn WEEK before what is supposedly the second biggest PPV of the year?? This is the WWE's issue as of late, with ALL the fucking PPVs they have. No time for any kind of build or planning. it seems so often they just slap some shit together. And to think out of all this, we may just end up with CM Punk Ve JBL. which we have already fucking seen, on monday night RAW, and which I have little to no interest in seeing again. Im not sure why they would go here with this, or what it will accomplish. The smartest thing for them to have done, was to have the super cool Highlight reel the night after GAB, and at the end, Jericho challenges Punk,and we have THAT as our main event.

Or, hey, we could just do nothing, and have no discernable direction for any of these guys. Yea, I guess thats much smarter booking.

Why? Because it's smart business. Nobody likes Punk as champ except Punk marks, so the only reason to tune in for anything regarding that situation is to find out who he is defending the title against. Once they announce the matchup, then there's no real need to watch Raw until Summerslam. There will be some confrontations and run-ins but you already know that nothing MAJOR will happen until the PPV.

Plus, this match WILL NOT be the main event...as both brand's title matches won't even be their featured bouts. Cena-Batista/Hell in a Cell. They have those in place. Thus, everything else is just about keeping people's attention. They have mine.
 
I'm calling it right now, a fatal four way for the World Heavyweight Title, i would say CM Punk vs JBL, but after what Adamle said on Raw, about how he's not sure why JBL has disdain for him, im sure that he wont make it easy for JBL to be the #1 contender now, but im saying it will be:
CM Punk vs JBL vs Kane vs Y2J
there is no way any of them should be left off of the Pay Per View with the push each of them is getting, and i can see Punk escaping with the title!
 
I'm calling it right now, a fatal four way for the World Heavyweight Title, i would say CM Punk vs JBL, but after what Adamle said on Raw, about how he's not sure why JBL has disdain for him, im sure that he wont make it easy for JBL to be the #1 contender now, but im saying it will be:
CM Punk vs JBL vs Kane vs Y2J
there is no way any of them should be left off of the Pay Per View with the push each of them is getting, and i can see Punk escaping with the title!

I really doubt it would be a fatal 4 way because Jericho has unfinished business with Shawn and i doubt they'd leave a marquee matchup like Jericho/Michaels off of SS. If its a triple threat with those 3 (which would suck) Punk definitely wins. I doubt he's losing his title at all at SS. I hope they start booking him differently because he's being booked like an afterthought/chump/fluke champion a la Rey Mysterio. Whatever they do for this match Punk better win for his sake then he can go on to feud with hopefully Jericho after this ppv and have them fight for the World title for a few months.
 
I dont know who they are going with this. I guess we will have to wait until later to find out but anyway i really dont care who it is that faces CM Punk as long as they Win. I cant wait for Punk to lose the title. i will be so happy when he does.

I think they might should HBK and Jericho to the mix, to make a triple threat match. Jericho could win pinning HBK, Punk never got pinned but new Champion Chris Jericho. It would put an end to the HBK Jericho Fued and it would put an end to the torture that is CM Punk as the world heavywieght champion.

Of course that wont happen and instead we will most likley be seeing Punk vs JBL again Just what i always wanted.
 
Snooze.

Punk gets a clean win over JBL, as that's the only guy they'd be willing to have him get a clean win over, outside of Regal and then the lower card guys.

I'm not looking forward to this at all. Boring match with one terrible performer (JBL) and one generic performer (Punk) without a storyline.
 
Well now that there's finally a match, I must say I'm a bit disappointed but I'm not really suprised. This has been kind of built up to for the last 2-3 weeks and it was becoming more and more obvious as the time went on that this was inevitable. This match probably won't be very good and definitely won't go on last. The thing that I'm seeing though is that Punk is becoming the first champion since Benoit to manage to be buried without losing the belt. If WWE wants Punk to be able to be a credible world champion contender anytime in the next year or so, he has to win this match clean. He's got no credibility as a champion right now, and it's nowhere near all his fault. He's been built as a champion that has scraped by the entire time and made to look totally incapable of doing anything on his own. A win over JBL, while not an earth shattering victory, at least makes him look like he can beat a main eventer on his own, something that his title reign is dying for.
 
When I saw Adamle come on the tron before the match and announce that if dnobody won the match within the 10 minute limit it'd be a triple threat I thought for sure we'd be seeing Punk vs. JBL vs. Jericho at SummerSlam, and with the way the three worked in this match it looked like that could be a good match, I would be lieing if I said I'm not disappointed with the finish of this match, Jericho deserve a shot at the title far more than JBL, who has basically just become nothing more than a ME jobber, it seems that all three big title matches are gonna be rather shit matches, I do see this one as being the most enjoyable but then again when your compititon is Trips/Khali and Henry/Matt Hardy, it's not like it's gonna take much to be the most enjoyable title match of the night, SummerSlam is still a couple weeks out so they still got time to work Jericho or someone else into this match to make it more interesting, lets hope they do so
 
We could of had a Punk vs Cena vs Batista vs JBL vs Kane + Maybe 1 more (Jericho) but no, they give use a Punk vs JBl, Something we have already seen. Really, They could of had Edge vs Taker as the main event. Finish the fued. On the undercard have This 5-6 man 6 pack challenge or something (Hell could of made it a hell in a cell as well, I would actualy buy the PPV if i got to see punk,cena,batista,kane,jbl and jericho or something in a normal match/ hell in a cell + edge vs taker. It would of made Summerslam such a great Fucken ppv).

I hope they change there minds in the next week
 
We could of had a Punk vs Cena vs Batista vs JBL vs Kane + Maybe 1 more (Jericho) but no, they give use a Punk vs JBl, Something we have already seen. Really, They could of had Edge vs Taker as the main event. Finish the fued. On the undercard have This 5-6 man 6 pack challenge or something (Hell could of made it a hell in a cell as well, I would actualy buy the PPV if i got to see punk,cena,batista,kane,jbl and jericho or something in a normal match/ hell in a cell + edge vs taker.

There not gonna have two HIAC matches on one show. Granted they had two EC matches at No Way Out but to be fair they skipped having one the year before. But HIAC matches are already kinda being overused I'd like it more if they had them once every 2 years maybe. Or only to end a marquee feud like Edge/Taker. CM Punk vs JBL one on one is fine I guess since we get Jericho vs HBK now and Cena vs Batista. Y2J is saving us from summerslam not Orton.I expect Punk to establish some cred by cleanly beating JBL. He can feud with Mysterio,Y2J,or a returning Randy Orton afterward. That'd be interseting. But for WWE's "Number 2" PPV these three title matches are really dropping the ball.
 
Wow. how fucking stupid is this. I coulda SWWWOOOORN I just saw this match about one month ago. I have about negative ten interest in this, truely. Although we may see things come full circle here, and have JBL triumphing in the end. I would dig that, And we could end up with a JBL-Cena rehash from 3 or so years ago. Would be decent. In fact the more I think of it, a CM Punk victory would be pretty fucking useless, as it already happened once. Knowing WWE though, they will want Punk to gain a clean victory over SOMEONE, and JBL may be the guy. Pretty anti climatic, apathy inspiring WHC match for what is supposed to be the second biggest show of the year tho, must say.
 
Well it looks like cm punk will get his credible ppv victory exept it will be against a guy hes already beat, but as for the match itself it will be horrible because I just dont think there is anyone(minus maybe HBK) that can take JBL through a good match

however I heard that next week JBL has challenged CM punk to a contest that a "straightedge" superstar cant win, so Im thinking drinking contest next week
 
this is a match were i really dont care who wins, and i think SS and raw should have been giving a better title match. the only good thing if cm punk wins is that we wont have to go through a PPV with JBL as champ. come on wwe, give us a better "main event"
 
Honestly, I'm interested in the match. RAW has definitely been upping the ante and with all these new changes, new feuds are brewing. CM Punk is rolling with it well, with his character willing to prove how bad he is a legitimate champion.

As for the new RAW GM, I'm really betting on him to make some sort of stipulation on the match. With his recent power he's been working a lot of people over and should surely have a say in this championship battle.
 
I can see CM Punk winning this match and finally getting a clean win, but as far as I know Kane isn't on this card, so maybe a run-in by Kane again will give Punk another DQ win or loss. If Kane is placed on the card I definitely see CM Punk winning clean. JBL might still be in the picture, but will fall to the back of the pack.
 
Unless they want JBL vs Punk to continue they need to give Punk the clean win here. There is no reason why this storyine to go on, as their styles do not mix well, so drop it here.
Another way is to have Kane interfere. They could tease it throughout the match, by having his pyro go off but no one coming out. Then they can start his music and he can come out and destroy Punk and JBL and demand a title match.
Im not expecting great things from this match; in fact, i'm not expecting anything from this match. But i'm not really expecting much from the whole ppv.
 
This is C.M. Punk's 4th title defense (2 against J.B.L. and 2 against Batista)... out of his 3 previous defenses, he's only won once by pinfall, due to distractions. Since the WWE wants to make Punk seem like a credible champion, then he should win this match. I just couldn't stand to see a repeat of J.B.L.'s WWE Championship title reign.
 
So two things can either come out of this match, either CM Punk is being built as a credible(I use that term loosely) champion and will win this match cleanly. Or he really IS a transitional champion like WWE seems to be treating him. However, what you got to think of is that if JBL wins this match, who will he face after Punk gets his obligatory rematch? Cena? We've seen too many of those matches. Batista maybe, or HBK if he doesn't "retire" and wants to chase a championship again. Unless WWE pushes someone up, who can he face for a lengthy reign?

In my opinion, Punk has way more matches available to him, with different heel contenders such as Jericho- awesome match there, with Orton when he comes back, or Kane for a short bit.

This match can go either way IMO, but I wouldn't mind a Punk win, he needs to look credible or the title loses prestige.
 
To me JBL performance level sucks, he is just another big man with a killer closeline that just so happens to be the only top heel on the show.

C.M.punk is going to win this match because WWE wants him to beat a major heel (JBL)so he can appear as a hero. -similar what John cena did 3 years ago-

But to what username IBlaze said, Who is C.M punk going to face in the upcoming months.......Y2J, Kane. There are only 3 top heels on Raw.

I am still undecided about wheater or not to purchase summerslam. -mainly because HBK will not perform.
 
I am not excited for this match at all. This should be Cena vs Batista for the World title, not JBL and Punk, WWE is totally ignoring their two World titles and putting more effort into Edge/Taker and Cena/Batista, to top it all off, this is SummerSlam, the so-called 2nd biggest event of the year. CM Punk will get his first "big" victory since being champion and will slowly start the path that Cena had the last couple of years, OVERCOMING THE ODDS! Yay. The whole problem with this situation is that JBL isn't taken seriously anymore, every smart fan knows he isn't a threat to win any World titles, so Punk's victory will be a total "Meh", beating JBL isn't exactly an impressive thing these days.
 
This match will suck, but really, what else was there. The WWE doesn't want to disrupte Jericho or Kanes momentum, so JBL is the only choice. It's true, JBL has almost zero credibility, even his win over Cena was a fluke, and that was like after he lost to him too many times to count, and throw in several more loses to Jericho. I see CM Punk getting the clean win here and then Orton attacking him after the match, or at the very latest making his pressence known on Raw the next night. Either way, i'm looking forward to CM Punk's future fueds with Orton or Jericho, these will determine the quality and length of his title reign, not another win over JBL on a bigger stage.
 
I do like CM Punk, and I believe he has enormous potential, but thats probably most likely as a heel, though I don't think WWE will turn him heel considering he's finally getting a World Champion reaction from the crowd. CM Punk will win, plain and simple, because WWE knows that Punk as Champ is better than listening to JBL as Champ. "I am a Wrestling God! I am the World Heavyweight Champion!" I can just picture him saying that over and over and over... and over. CM Punk hopefully gets the clean win, though I could see Kane as a possible wild card.

On a related note though, I wish Chris Jericho was challlenging for the title, even though I absolutely love his feud with HBK (It's the freakin' best feud we've seen in a long time.) I could see HBK successfullly interfering to cost Jericho the title. After the match, he makes his announcement that he's cleared to compete, and then we have an impromptu match between Jericho and HBK right then and there, which HBK wins.
 
I have to say this match will be horrid. It's already been done for one thing, and I expect the same outcome. Punk is improving and will be a player for years to come, but JBL...come on now. The guy never should have come out of retirement. He looks terrible, is boring as hell, and can't have a decent match to save his life. Punk goes over clean here to show that is reign is not a fluke at a big time ppv. Afterwards JBL will go on to a program with the loser of the Batista/Cena match, while Punk goes to one with either the winner or Jericho. Hopefully Punk/Jericho because they could have a much better match than this and with some build, it could be a good feud, possibly even with Jericho winning the title off Punk.
 
This match is really important for C.M Punk's world title reign. Its now or never for the guy to get a clean win against a quality opponent. There is no way in the world this match is going to be the main event on the night, but I still think if given the right amount of time, it can be a good match. They should let JBL hit his finisher on Punk and let CM kick out. It will put him more over as a quality champion who kicked out of his opponent's finisher but then went on to win the match cleanly.

I can't see why JBL should be the champion at this point in time. It will really make Punk's reign look even more pointless if he loses now. He needs to have a strong showing here and needs to prove why he deserves to hold the belt. It shouldn't be a long feud as they already faced each other on Raw when Punk first won the title. But a decent 15 minute bout with Punk cleanly winning over a main eventer will do wonders for him. So I think the WWE will let C.M Punk win cleanly here as I think it would be totally pointless if any other outcome of the match happens. Chris Jericho should have a feud with Punk over the belt next and I think that has the potential to be a great match.

Its Punk's time to shine and hopefully he can do it when it matters most.
 
They took a big chance putting the WHC belt on Punk six weeks ago. Will the Punk experiment continue? I think so. In fact, I want Punk to get that much needed clean win Sunday (Amy runs and hides from Will, lol). While my opinion of Punk hasn’t changed, they finally succeeded in gaining my interest both for Punk and this match with JBL’s drinking challenge.

Since he was drafted to Raw, Punk hasn't had much of a character. His promo on Monday night gave him the chance to finally show his personality. He put over who he is and the Straight Edge gimmick sends a good message to the kiddies and parents, which reflects positively back on WWE. By standing up to JBL and saying he’ll show why he is the man on Raw, Punk looked strong and sounded like what a world champ should for the first time.

Punk’s just now starting to get a good crowd reaction. It would make no sense to start pushing Punk and take the belt off him at this point. JBL as champion would be a major turnoff, boring and annoying as hell. He’s sucking up way too much TV time as it is now. I think JBL’s options for opponents would be very limited. I don’t want to see a JBL-Jericho heel/heel feud and I definitely can’t take another installment of JBL-Cena.

Punk NEEDS a clean win but with the way he’s been booked since even before he cashed in MITB, I just don’t see it happening. I can’t shake this feeling Jericho interferes, which hopefully will result in a Punk-Jericho program.
 
We should stop bashing these two and let them show what they can do. JBL isn't the greatest, again, we all know this. But when he needs to step up to the plate he can deliver some pretty good matches. He didn't hold the WWE Title on Smackdown for nearly over half a year for nothing. And he was battling against people like Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Booker T, and others I can't remember because that was a time where I wasn't watching Smackdown at all. But I still caught some of the PPV's to see that JBL can put on some good matches.

And with CM Punk, his storyline with him right now couldn't be written better. Why keep having him beat people just to show that his title reign is legit. Why have him beat Batista? Not just yet, Batista is a huge star and so is Cena. Punk can't be beating Batista just yet. He needs some momentum. And as long as he hasn't won a credible match yet, the more the crowd starts to write him off. Until....SUMMERSLAM! When he beats JBL in a good match that should go at least 15 minutes. They're both going to make each other look good in the ring with CM Punk rising as a true champion and get the clean win.

This is the big stage. So not everyone saw Punk beat JBL on Raw the first time. Now at the second biggest PPV of the year. This is his time to shine while not beating anyone that's worth hurting like JBL. This is the perfect match for him. All this match is going to do is make him look strong and be a champion. He is the Straight Edge superstar, his mic work is way past average. He's good on the mic, and he has that determination that not everyone in the WWE has to succeed.

I only watched two episodes of ECW since it debuted on Sci-Fi. The first one was the very first promo of CM Punk. He promoted and build himself up to someone who was going to make a statement and a name for himself in the WWE. When I saw him, I thought to myself that he has that swag to him and aura that could be someone to be a main eventer. Did I think it was going to happen? Hell no! Until I saw the 2nd ECW where I think The Undertaker was appearing on there. CM Punk came out and the crowd went nuts and his match was pretty good too. Then, I knew he had something to him when he showed up on Raw one time and he had one of the biggest pops of the night. Then, the night after he won MITB, he lost to Y2J in a very clean good match. So he has improved dramatically. Now Summerslam is his time to shut the world up and become the champion that we all see in him.
 

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