Sheamus's Future - Discussion Thread

[Datdude2485]

Right now Sheamus definitely can't draw without the title or with it. But thats not necessarily all his fault either. Bottom line is WWE pushed this guy way to damn fast first of all without having really establishing himself on a true main event status. I give WWE a little credit for trying to go for a little "shock value" and push a new guy straight to a title match and actually WIN! But it should've never been Sheamus. What happened to guys like Kofi, MVP, hell even Jack Swagger??? One of those guys would've been more deserving of that spot than Sheamus. Atleast they were established and have enough ability to draw and get a crowd behind them or really against them in Swagger's case. But now they're stuck back basically as mid-carders with their promising pushes now diminished. Hopefully one of them can get back to that level after M.I.T.B. at Wrestlemania but who knows. Imo, Sheamus definitely needs to beat Triple H at Wrestlemania to have any sort of credibility now and probably do it clean. Or he could very easily end up like most guys lost in the mix fighting as a mid-carder. And for a former WWE champion thats pretty bad. Unless your Kane of course. If he loses at WM to Triple H WWE might not have any choice but send him to Smackdown. Maybe then they'll push him properly and he can work his way to the World Heavyweight tiltle picture and have a decent or great career.

 

[BatistrioFlyPunt]

I didn't hate Sheamus as a champ either, but of course Cena has to be involved in yet another title chase that will end up that he will be handed the belt. It makes me sick that the same people get it while the Evan Bournes and the Kofi's are the same level as they started with. Yes, I am happy Batista has the belt as a heel but I am fairly disappointed that his reign will end because of Cena.

 

[Via Armbar]

He's been back a week. A little too quick to assume something like this no? He got a pretty good reaction by taking out one of the top faces in the company. People aren't going to give a shit about him yet as he hasn't even really had a legitimate feud with a big name yet. Clearly they're doing him a favor by putting him in a match with one of the best of all time on the biggest show of the year. They have faith that people will care what he does. As of right now people can only offer their own opinions on him as we have yet to see enough of him to make a general consensus. People are really warming to him and I can only see good things in his future.

 

[warriorforever83]

he was only given the title because HHH pushed him so hard, the title was given to him way too soon, he needs much more time to mature and gain more heat, however having said that i will say that in the little time ive seen him i hate him already so its working!

 

[Cookie14]

This thread isn't about the short term future for Sheamus, but the long term future.

It's no secret that Vince likes his top guys to have a 'certain look'. Big, muscular, body-builder types. From Hogan to Cena, they have all had 'the look'.

I have noticed a trend that seems to have developed over the years, maybe it's just me, but it seems like the faster someone with 'the look' is pushed to the top, the shorter their WWE career is.

A few examples. Hogan, Cena, HHH, Batista, all took years to win their first heavyweight title in WWE. (Hogan had to wait until his second spell in WWF, if memory serves me correctly as the first spell was under Vince Sr). These guys all have had long careers in WWE, and in Hogans case, elsewhere as well.

However, people like Ultimate Warrior, Brock Lesnar, Lashley (though he only won the ECW title), and, dare I include Goldberg in this list? I think so, because he came in, won the title, and left, all within 12 months.

So, I ask you, given the speed of his push, is Sheamus destined to be another WWE flavour of the month? Or can he be here to stay?

 

[wiKid hoRse]

the examples you gave don't really back up that argument. Lashley and Lesnar both left to pursue other careers outside of wrestling (Lashley only having just giving up wrestling to focus on MMA fulltime) and the warrior is batshit crazy so he left cause he screwed up everything he touches. Goldberg quit cause he felt he wasn't getting the push he thought he deserved.

Sheamus has the 'look' and the connections. I feel he will be around for quite awhile and pushed down our throats untill he is accepted (ie batista)

 

[TKO 3:16]

I don't see how WWE can give this guy a bigger puidh than they did, and ppl still didn't buy it. Maybe it was because of who he was up against that he didn't getpops from the crowd, or if it was just his ugly IMO persona. He is pale and his hair is bright as hell, kinda hard to look at if u ask me, but IMO from the way he was potrayed as a champ, I think its going to be a while befor we see this guy as a "storng" contender for the title.
IMo his gimmick is mid card at best, reminds me of a younger more buil finlay, and y'all know where is ass went.. No where, and if sheamus did the dame thing, I wouldn't be upset one bit!

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

Well, he's now going to be in a storyline with the two most popular faces on Raw in Cena and HHH. And he also kinda/sorta feuded with Randy Orton. This will be it. If things go sour for him, then it's all on Sheamus, not the WWE. It's the wrestlers job to get over. If he can't do that, then he'll end up in the mid-card and possibly released once HHH gets tired of training with him.

Sheamus has a great look and a sadistic attitude, but the thing is, it's just not there for me. He's not intense enough. I'm used to seeing someone battered, bruised, and seeing kids cry. THAT'S brutality. So Sheamus has a good future if he can find a way to get over with legit heat and not, 'you really suck, don't get in the ring' chants.

 

[joker217]

When I first looked at Shaemus on ECW last year I thought he was mid-card at best and he had a goofy look to him. Then when he came to RAW and won the WWE title I just never really bought it, and most of the fans didn't either. Because of this his future is a little foggy. I mean I know he has his match with Triple H at Wrestlemania but I just don't know where he will go from there. Maybe WWE thought should have thought about this before putting the title on him way too early.

 

[Junior]

he might ok for the next year or so....i see him having the fued with HHH for mania then with HHH saying he might take a month or 2 off they may play a role with sheamus taking him out, then sheamus might fued with orton id orton goes face which the fans are pretty much making that choice for the wwe...then when HHH comes back i see a month or 2 fues of the two of them.i can see shaemus fight edge for a bit maybe even taker b4 taker leaves, hell he maybe next year mania victim, so i say the next year or so sheamus could be busy i just hope they dont play out fueds like they did with cena hhh and orton

 

[wtfhappened]

Frankly, I'd like to see the guy as a top heel and two time champ. For such a quick jump to the top he handled it very well. The WWE...not so much. If he gets thrown into a program with HHH he's got to beat him at mania to cement his status. His champ run was handled terribly and I'd like to see this guy actually pin a former champ. If he gets the strap give him an actual win. What bothered me is they finally had the balls to go out on a limb and give a nobody a chance to be the king of the world and didn't stand by him once he was at the top. A HHH feud would be good as the two would probably mesh well together in the ring. I'd like to see him stick to raw and just dominate.

 

[Jonnie Walker]

The future isn't too long for Sheamus unless he wants to wrestle until he's 40. He's already 31. He will be around and he will hold a few world titles later on, but he won't play a huge role in the WWE's future. He will still be a main-eventer, but he won't be one of the guys that you think of when you hear WWE. He'll have a good rest-of-his-career though.

 

[SickJames]

Sheamus will always be a midcarder who doesnt deserve the annoyingly huge pushes & titles he's gonna get and has gotten

It's just like putting any NXT star against Cena & doing the same, it doesnt matter who you put someone up against, THEY have to be a star themselves and that means having a combination of things that Sheamus does not. He's boring, doesnt even have an original finishing move, he didnt have to copy Razor Ramon.

Also I dont care how much HHH pushes him he'll never be a true star. If this is the future WWE has to look forward to, Triple H's close friends only getting huge pushes or stars he touches personally like Orton/Batista, (although they are actually good, Orton way more) then we are screwed.

Just cause you workout with Triple H doesnt mean you should get the belt, now guys will be lined up to wipe his ass to win the Royal Rumble and headline WrestleMania

 

[KaosTheori]

The only way I think Sheamus can get over at this point is for HHH to scream Hell in a Cell for Wrestlemania with Sheamus and they tear the roof off. Plus with the injury its not looking to good for the Irish? Scottish? Whatever. It doesn't look good for Sheamus.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

The future holds a strain in the "main event", a demotion to upper midcard jobber to the stars, a draft change, a midcard placement, a few months where they "don't have anything for him", and a release.

Essentially, look at Kozlov. He's one step away from his release - which may come as soon as the end of this week according to some reports. Kozlov was pushed as unstoppable and was basically only a step away from winning the title a few times, and the first person to "defeat" him was HHH. Yeah, Taker was the first to pin him, but HHH eliminated him from the Royal Rumble and Kozlov was never able to actually hands down beat HHH the way he did with others on Smackdown. Then, Kozlov moves over to ECW and teams up with Ezekiel and jobs to people like Goldust, and now he might not even officially be a part of the Raw roster, but they clearly have nothing for him anyway.

 

[Brahma Bull]

first id like to point out how so many people say that no one bought sheamus as champ, and everyone forgot about him, but how do you know?

do you talk to hundreds of people or just your friends? oh, so you dont really know if people bought him as champ, its just your wrestler didnt get the push you think he deserved (probably a lot of shelton on this board, hahahahahaha) so sheamus doesnt deserve it and he sucked. rrrrrrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhttttt.

for being thrown into the main event so fast, sheamus came off as credible. of course he is not at the batista or jericho level of heel, because he is not as over right now. but for how much he has improved and have gotten people to hate him, he is well on his way to sticking in the main event for a long time. he is already fueding with hhh.

and really will everyone just stop with the damn, oh he just got it because he works out with sheamus. maybe hhh worked out with sheamus because he knows sheamus can be damn good and have a future in this business, like idk orton and batista.

maybe hhh knows more than you guys that just sit at home typing about how bad vince and hhh are.

at the end of the day it is business first, and hhh probably views sheamus as good business.

and to the people that bag on him because he took his finisher from razor, lets take a look at a few other poeple that have as well. orton-ddp, booker-rock, anyone that uses the axe kick, or powerbomb, or chokeslam, or ddp or, you get the picture. yeah someone elsed used that move before. big deal. no one does now and thats what matters. people reuse finishers all the time. hell drew does as well. remember mankind?

so in conclusion, sheamus is here to stay and wrestle with the big boys. now, i dont think he will be as big as hhh, cena, hbk or taker, but his level will be around cm punk batista (face) level. main eventer, but definately would not be able to carry a show.

 

[Danger3]

Sheamus reminds me a lot of the Great Khali during his title run. He got the title when no one was expecting it, everyone hated him, and he pretty much kicks the crap out of people and raises his arms and yells. Didn't work for him, not gonna work long term for Sheamus. The only thing he has on his side is Triple H, but I'm getting way off topic.

As for the future, once his feud with HHH is over, which is probably backlash (is that what it's still called?), I think the best thing for him would be a move to Smackdown. Once Triple H beats him, and he will, Sheamus is gonna be on one of those slippery slopes that all the big guys in WWE eventually get on. He'll lose all credibility and become a mid-carder. His best option is to distance himself from that entirely and get a fresh dominant start on SD. Although I think that's just delaying the inevitable demotion.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Eh, guy still gets a lot of hate despite finally giving viewers something to talk about in the WWE Championship scene other than Cena, Orton and Triple H. Ultimately, the jury is still out on Sheamus but I just can't hate on the guy. Overall, I've enjoyed him. His reign wasn't fantastic, but it certainly wasn't the skidmark that the general IWC predicted it would be either. The WWE did something completely unexpected and I like it. The fact that Sheamus isn't an internet darling doesn't mean that he's a bad wrestler, not by any stretch. Sheamus' potential hasn't fully been reached and, if it doesn't come to pass, then the blame certainly can't be placed on the WWE.

According to reports, Triple H is expected to take some time off after WrestleMania as well to rest up some. Word is that his quads are giving him some problems and some rest is needed. If this is true, then this would be the perfect opportunity for Sheamus to get a rub from Triple H. If Sheamus were to beat Trips at 'Mania and Triple H's time off is worked into a storyline in which Sheamus beat the snot out of him and forced him to take time off to heal from injuries sustained, Sheamus' stock would certainly rise.

If Trips does take time off as HBK does, this is gonna leave a hole in Raw's main event scene overall. This would be a great opportunity for some of the younger talent on Raw to see what they've got. With HBK and Triple H out of the picture for a while, I think that Sheamus, Rhodes, DiBiase, Kingston, etc. could potentially have a chance to advance their own careers.

 

[Alex]

I see Sheamus doing a Randy Orton. Orton won his first World Title on 2004, after he lost it he was in some interesting fueds (carrying on the Legend Killer gimmick and fueding with Undertaker) it wasn't till about 2007 (correct me if im wrong) when he won his next World Title. It is possible Sheamus will follow this path, he has the look and connections so WWE may want to build him up a bit more to make another World Title reign more legitamite

 

[angry_panda]

It makes me laugh that Sheamus is "one of the new young stars WWE is pushing" when he is the same age as Cena

What they need to do now is bump him down a little, give him some feuds with some of the upper mid card guys, and a couple more feuds with the main eventers when they aren’t in the title picture (similar to the hhh fued he is starting) all the while developing his character.

The voiceless monster heel doesn’t cut it in WWE anymore (see Kane/Mike Knox/Kahli/Koslov). Shamus is OK on the mic already but if they give him a couple of years to develop those skills, and polish his ring work I can see him being a very credible main eventer in 2ish years.

 

[jmyers19]

I think he needs to stay in the spotlight and not become a glorified jobber. I was shocked but pleased when I heard he'd won the Title. Do I think that the likes of Kofi, Morrison and Benjamin would have been a better pick? Yes of course, but I also liked how Sheamus was a fresh face to the main event scene, well at least for a couple of months or so. Even after losing the WWE Title he still looks strong, got some crowd heat for beating down HHH, its obvious why he's going after HHH, pinned him in the EC, more mic work I think is needed rather than beating Hunter down. I think he'll want to stay in WWE much longer than the likes of Lesnar, Lashley and Goldberg did because he's been given the push from one of the top guys today, it'll show him they're confident with him and how he carries himself, he obviously wants to be there because if he didn't he wouldn't have signed with them, and I don't see him as a UFC or MMA type of guy, don't follow that sort of thing but don't see him in that area. But I guess for the years to come he'll probably have a Khali-like career, being in feuds, not winning everything but not losing everything before being pushed again, or he could have a mid-card Title run with the IC Title at some point.

 

[db82]

i think that if he loses to HHH at wm then its gona be a long way down for Sheamus but if they give him the win and a good follow up programme then maybe it cud elevate him back towards the top. I dont think next year he will be takers next victim as with taker only havin a few years left at most every year the wm streak will be made to look bigger than the world title and no1 wud ever believe sheamus cud or shud win it. IMO only taker vs cena is worth doin and they better not let cena end the streak.

 

[Decarow]

Sheamus is at a point right now where he has to bring it at this Wrestlemania or he'll get the Swagger treatment. I personally thought he was a pretty good champion. I would like for him to be champion again in the future. I know this is a stretch, but I see him as the next HHH. In about 5 years he'll be headlining Wrestlemania with the like of McIntyre, Morrison, Miz, Daniel Bryan. Who knows, maybe he'll eventually main event with the likes of Justin Gabriel or Otunga?

 

[Jordan-Dixon]

I would like sheamus to be drafted to Smackdown and fued with Edge for the World title , i could see that goin some distance but i think he has limited time on Raw has he needs to fued with the top guys but Raw has too mnay top guys and Storylines to fit him in.

Sheamus should atleast challenge for the IC belt after WM26 as he needs to be the big bad faces from a few years ago like kane, big show, lesnar, and domintate a certian division like the IC and then by Summerslam WHC fueds or Undertaker return fued.

 

[JBK2008]

I think Vince and Triple H are going to groom Sheamus. Word is Sheamus is a kiss ass, so it seems he's primed for success in the WWE. Yeah I said it and I don't care. However, he does have the size and yet a strange look, but interesting none the less to be a top player in the WWE. His style and finisher aren't too bad, but his mic skills need some work. He doesn't sound too intimidating just yet. Hopefully this feud with Triple H will help get him up in the ranks, or he may be stuck for a while in the mid card going un noticed on Raw like so many other guys there.