The finish of the Cena/Sheamus Tables match .... What really happened?

[taker321]

I Think Sheamus Will Lose The Title Tonight Because Of The Tribute To the troops that is coming up john cena has the title then so its kinda obvious he gonna win it back tonight

 

[NSL]

I Think Sheamus Will Lose The Title Tonight Because Of The Tribute To the troops that is coming up john cena has the title then so its kinda obvious he gonna win it back tonight

Everyone needs to give up on the Tribute To The Troops show. Everyone knows it was taped before the PPV. Why wouldn't Cena have the belt on him? If WWE had Sheamus with the belt in Iraq, and then showed it during the preivews, how many people would buy the show?

It's pretty stupid to think that Cena is winning it back so soon, simply because he had the belt around his waist 3 weeks ago.

 

[M-Eklipse]

Hmm, this is kinda confusing for me, because even though Sheamus won there's just one thing that has me scratching my head. At the end after Sheamus' music plays and such, and he in getting up on the outside. If you look at him, his face says 'What am I suppose to do?' imo. Then the ref comes around the ring, and the way he is motioning Sheamus it looks like he saying 'Come on, just go with it.' Personally this is what I saw, but I may be wrong, who knows?

 

[nikvoodoo]

I Think Sheamus Will Lose The Title Tonight Because Of The Tribute To the troops that is coming up john cena has the title then so its kinda obvious he gonna win it back tonight

Yes and no. Yes, odds are Sheamus loses tonight, but the Tribute to the Troops usually exists in a vacuum where they don't usually progress story lines. They just present the show and give thanks to the troops. They may very well acknowledge the fact it was recorded earlier this year.

I would love that. It would be an excellent way to keep the belt on Sheamus tonight.

 

[Blade]

So are all of you saying that Sheamus not touching Cena, who flew off the top rope through the table, follwed by him falling off the top rope was supposed to happen because the table outside wasn't mean to be set up?

Come on, there's some things that just don't fit. Sure the commentators said "Yeah, Sheamus just nudged Cena, that's all it needed to knock him off" but that's BS. That was Vince telling them what to say after hastily watching the replays.

Something went wrong there in the finish to this match. There's no way Cena, a consumate professional, would make the finish look that bad.

 

[Saddler The Great]

I saw the PPV and never really noticed anything. However, I watched the clip and another link posted by someone else on this thread previously (can't remember the name) and am still not sure what was supposed to happen. Cena looked like he was supposed to go thru the table, but I am not sure about Sheamus. After watching the full ending several times I tried to see if the table outside the ring beside Sheamus had both legs out, however I could only see one leg as the other half of the table wasn't shown on the camera. I know Sheamus threw that table and it would seem impossible for it to land on its legs and be set for a spot, but maybe someone propped the table up from the camera crew (as someone above mentioned before). What is also weird to me is why Sheamus fell of the top rope so fast immediately after Cena fell, because clearly Cena couldn't have touched him... And after the match, there didn't seem to be much confusion with the ref, Justin Roberts, of the broadcasting crew, so that stood out as well. so I am not sure what the outcome was supposed to be, but all I know is I am a little bit excited, not overly, but have some excitement for Raw for the 1st time in a long, long, long time.

 

[Mr_Ab_Fab]

So are all of you saying that Sheamus not touching Cena, who flew off the top rope through the table, follwed by him falling off the top rope was supposed to happen because the table outside wasn't mean to be set up?

Come on, there's some things that just don't fit. Sure the commentators said "Yeah, Sheamus just nudged Cena, that's all it needed to knock him off" but that's BS. That was Vince telling them what to say after hastily watching the replays.

Something went wrong there in the finish to this match. There's no way Cena, a consumate professional, would make the finish look that bad.

Cena makes everything look bad! he doesnt take hits and is forever putting his arms up so slowly and obviously so i think yeah he could muck up that bad, however i honestly think he'll go for the i demand a rematch angle as he can say he fell and was not pushed

 

[Okay Fabian]

Something went wrong there in the finish to this match. There's no way Cena, a consumate professional, would make the finish look that bad.

I'm not denying that something went wrong with the finish, but the whole "Sheamus was supposed to break the table on the outside" "the match was supposed to be a draw" thing has to stop. There wasn't a table set up on the outside for Sheamus to break. Yes, there was a table there. But it was lying on its side from when Sheamus tossed it over the ropes. If he was supposed to break it, it should have been cleanly set up prior to the spot.

Now, as far as Cena going through the table. That was definitely meant to happen, and it did. It just looked terrible. You could clearly see Cena "jump" back into the table by himself. That is all. Was Sheamus supposed to push him? Maybe? But Cena went through the table as he was supposed to, and Sheamus did not go through a table, as he was not supposed to.

And for anyone who thinks Cena is going to ask for a rematch tonight. Not going to happen. Cena is booked in a match with CM Punk.

So, yes, the ending of the match was botched in the physical sense, but the outcome of the match was not botched in the storyline sense.

 

[Blade]

I'm not denying that something went wrong with the finish, but the whole "Sheamus was supposed to break the table on the outside" "the match was supposed to be a draw" thing has to stop. There wasn't a table set up on the outside for Sheamus to break. Yes, there was a table there. But it was lying on its side from when Sheamus tossed it over the ropes. If he was supposed to break it, it should have been cleanly set up prior to the spot.

Now, as far as Cena going through the table. That was definitely meant to happen, and it did. It just looked terrible. You could clearly see Cena "jump" back into the table by himself. That is all. Was Sheamus supposed to push him? Maybe? But Cena went through the table as he was supposed to, and Sheamus did not go through a table, as he was not supposed to.

And for anyone who thinks Cena is going to ask for a rematch tonight. Not going to happen. Cena is booked in a match with CM Punk.

So, yes, the ending of the match was botched in the physical sense, but the outcome of the match was not botched in the storyline sense.

You can't possibly know what area of the ending was botched. For all you know, Sheamus was supposed to set up that table, but he forgot to so he couldn't fall through it and he did his other, awkward looking fall.I wouldn't put it past Sheamus, better wrestlers have made worse mistakes under pressure. None of us know what happened, all we have is theories. I guess all we can do is hope that some kind of report on the ending of the match... Until then, we can't rule out anything.

 

[Tastycles]

If the outcome of the match was supposed to be different, that is not how it would have gone down. When Batista fucked up the end of the Royal Rumble, and went out with Cena, everyone shat their pants and Vince McMahon came running out to the ring. There is no way if Cena was meant to retain that Sheamus would have started cheering with the title. Someone would have came up with some bullshit. E.g. Cena fell, wasn't pushed.

The impact of Sheamus replacing Cena as the champion is a massive deal, and not the sort of thing that Justin Roberts, Sheamus and a graphics and music guy could make in a split second. He was almost certainly meant to go through the table after Cena, but no way was he destined to draw the match.

 

[ANT-MAN87]

Ok, we all saw the tables match last night. There was the ending where Cena fell through the table and Sheamus fell off the top rope to the outside... But is that what was supposed to happen? Let's look at the evidence.

I present to you, the video of last night's events.

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Ok first thing's first. Look at Cena's fall. It's quite clear that he jumps back without Sheamus pushing him or punching him. We can all agree on that. That part wasn't a botch, Cena was intentionally going for the table, even if he did move off to the right a little. Look at it closely. Cena was obviously jumping into the table. Despite what many people are claiming, it's not what Cena did that was the botch. It's what Sheamus did.

People are focusing on what Cena did. Maybe you should think about what Sheamus didn't do. Look at the above video. First, notice how awkwardly Sheamus falls off the turnbuckle. We've seen plenty of wrestlers fall of the top turnbuckle, but it never looked as awkward as that. It's like Sheamus slipped, fell to the apron then rolled off.

Now, the biggest piece of evidence. Look at the part where they do the close up of Sheamus. Notice anything? There's a toppled over table right beside Sheamus, a table that was set up earlier in the match. Now, call me crazy, but I see a link between Sheamus' awkward fall, and that table.

So, could it be that Sheamus was meant to fall off the turnbuckle through that table, thus ending the match in a draw? Perhaps the reason Cena went to the right side of the table was because he saw how Sheamus fell and tried to steer himself in a different direction as to avoid giving Sheamus the win. And Sheamus's music took a good few seconds to start playing after his win.... Hmmm....

So if this was, in fact, a botch, and it was meant to end in a draw, then where does WWE go from here? Will they make Sheamus drop the title as a soon as possible? Or see what it does for ratings?

Before I realised how likely it was that it could've been a botch, I thought Cena would win the rumble since he was WWE-title-less... But now I think we could see the Cena vs Sheamus rematch at Royal Rumble. I dunno, if the end was a botch, the WWE writers must have had a long day today to try and come up with a good solution. Tonight's Raw is going to be absolutely crucial for fixing this possible mess.

What do you guys think? If it was a botch, what's going to happen on Raw tonight? Rematch? Or Sheamus' acceptance speech?

I agree it wasn't Cena who botched the spot it was Sheamus. What do you expect he is green very green. His promos are bad and finishes aren't great. I guess vince has a thing for Irish bums or Triple H's work out lacky's but Sheamus looked like he forgot his spot and Cena being a veteran well compared to "Gaymus" saved the spot and the finish of the match. However the last guy they pushed like this who was green in the ring was the warrior and we all saw the end result of that. Look bottom line is that has to one of the wackest, lamest, and corniest finish to a WWE title match ever since JBL beat Eddie Guerrero in that Texas Bull Rope Match. Look point said it looked like the finish was a superplex or his Crucifix Bomb but Sheamus lack of ring awareness fucked that up, lets see how many other PPV finishes old Carrot Top is gonna ruin. Oh my Raw Prediction Sheamus talking shit and Cena wanting revenge and admitting defeat.

 

[simonz43]

If the outcome of the match was supposed to be different, that is not how it would have gone down. When Batista fucked up the end of the Royal Rumble, and went out with Cena, everyone shat their pants and Vince McMahon came running out to the ring. There is no way if Cena was meant to retain that Sheamus would have started cheering with the title. Someone would have came up with some bullshit. E.g. Cena fell, wasn't pushed.

The impact of Sheamus replacing Cena as the champion is a massive deal, and not the sort of thing that Justin Roberts, Sheamus and a graphics and music guy could make in a split second. He was almost certainly meant to go through the table after Cena, but no way was he destined to draw the match.

Anyone who still thinks that it wasn't the planned outcome is arrogant and needs to seriously just get over it. So we have a new guy as Champion, and the E shocked us all with it. I may not even be a huge Sheamus fan myself, but the only thing I've seen since Sunday night is everyone taking a huge group shit on him, which bull. I was kinda disappointed in the WWE for not even booking him in a match on Raw last night(which was god awful, but that's a different topic in itself). But that's not his fault, it's theirs. Sheamus was meant to win, otherwise, after Raw, he wouldn't have been Champion... And look, he still is.

 

[Jimmy Smith]

hi guys first post

after watching the video i noticed something.. sheamus was standing on the middle turnbuckle when he slipped. when john cena went for the table, it knocked sheamus off balance.. why would sheamus jump to either the table inside the ring or outside if he was on the middle turnbuckle ? it wouldnt look right.
anyway the only other explanation would be if cena were to superplex sheamus into the table inside the ring. but cena jumped and didnt look like he was intentionally trying to perform that move at all.
so i think the only thing that went wrong here was that sheamus got knocked off balance when cena jumped for the table, and he was jus meant to be standing there to look like he pushed cena.
so yeaa i believe small mistake at the end but the result was right.