Sam's Thread of Chattin' w/ Jake & Other Robust Subjects

I thought his dad getting wasted was convincing motivation for him to go apeshit. And yes, we can always assume:

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★★★★★ Green Room and Florence Foster Jenkins
★★★★ Son Of Saul
★★★ Bad Neighbours 2
★★ The Angry Birds Movie

Green Room is the most fun I've had at the cinema since Mad Max, Son Of Saul isn't fun in the slightest.
 
It's been on my radar for a while, Green Room, and you, the bloke at work and the ads on WZ mobile are pushing it on me hard. I'll go to a double bill later for that and Everybody Wants Some!!. I'm not sure if I want some!! but half of Linklater's films are great.
 
Green Room has been getting a lot of hype, but I'm not sure I'm ready to commit to seeing it in theaters.

Everybody Wants Some looks like it has potential, but there are a few scenes in the trailer that turn me off of it. I look forward to Sam's review.
 
Saw 10 Cloverfield lane. Pretty solid, didn't change my fucking life as some would have me believe.

Saw a lot of people bitching about the third act....It was by far my favorite part of the movie.

Tasteless swine, me.

I liked it right up until...
she escaped the bunker. From there, the movie spoiled it's own movie by showing anything that would even hint at an alien invasion , I'm talking about the impossibly bright blue light coming from behind the house and rising..(obviously aliens in the preview). So without the preview spoiling the movie, it was O.K.
 
Everybody Wants Some looks like it has potential, but there are a few scenes in the trailer that turn me off of it. I look forward to Sam's review.
I know I'm getting myself up to look stupid, but do Linklater movies really lend themselves to decent trailers?
 
I'm on my phone so no stars just yet - sorry to disappoint - but I honestly liked Everybody Wants Some!! a little more than Green Room. It's really funny, insightful and hypermasculine. Everybody in it is a monstrous ********, and the film makes it pretty evident without being judgey, but it's hard not to like them. Like a lot of Linklater films, it lacks a distinct structure, but unlike, e.g. Boyhood, it doesn't feel wandering and aimless. It's just a really good time.

For whatever reason, I was expecting Green Room to be more in the vein of The Guest. Instead, it's hyperviolent not for spectacle or humour but just to unsettle, which it did to me pretty successfully. It was a much more grounded film than I was expecting, which I should like, but I'm always disappointed when I go in expecting a Carpenter tribute and don't get one.

Probably four stars apiece when I get to adding them to the list.
 
I think I've said it before but, just in case: I like Gladiator, and I don't like most Ridley Scott films (with two other obvious exceptions).
 
  1. Room ★★★★★
  2. 10 Cloverfield Lane ★★★★
  3. Anomalisa ★★★★
  4. Creed ★★★★
  5. The Revenant ★★★★
  6. Everybody Wants Some!! ★★★★
  7. The Hateful Eight ★★★★
  8. The Witch ★★★★
  9. Captain America: Civil War ★★★★
  10. Green Room ★★★★
  11. Hail, Caesar! ★★★
  12. Zootropolis ★★★
  13. Spotlight ★★★
  14. Deadpool ★★★
  15. Rams ★★★
  16. The Survivalist ★★★
  17. The Big Short ★★★
  18. The Jungle Book ★★
  19. Goosebumps ★★
  20. Eddie the Eagle ★★
  21. High-Rise ★★
  22. Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice ★★
  23. The Assassin ★

So EWS is the feel good movie of the year if hanging out with muscular jocks who treat each other like shit is what makes you feel good. It is for me, which is surprising.

Green Room never quite maintained the intensity I was expecting from it, though that seems more a me problem than an it problem.
 
  1. Room ★★★★★
  2. 10 Cloverfield Lane ★★★★
  3. Anomalisa ★★★★
  4. Creed ★★★★
  5. The Revenant ★★★★
  6. Everybody Wants Some!! ★★★★
  7. The Hateful Eight ★★★★
  8. The Witch ★★★★
  9. Captain America: Civil War ★★★★
  10. Green Room ★★★★
  11. Bone Tomahawk ★★★★
  12. Hail, Caesar! ★★★
  13. Zootropolis ★★★
  14. Spotlight ★★★
  15. Deadpool ★★★
  16. Rams ★★★
  17. The Survivalist ★★★
  18. The Big Short ★★★
  19. The Jungle Book ★★
  20. Goosebumps ★★
  21. Eddie the Eagle ★★
  22. High-Rise ★★
  23. Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice ★★
  24. The Assassin ★

I'm sure I'm being warped by all these ultraviolent films. Oh well, back to Doom.
 
I really liked it. It was very pretentious, but I thought it was charming in that way. I felt like it paid a certain amount of homage to Cronenberg, particularly his first feature, Shivers.
 
I think people who are British and/or have read a lot of Ballard are much less likely to take to it.

Is there a specific reason why?

Maybe you can answer this question I have: when they have Margret Thatcher play at the end, is that an endorsement of absolute capitalism or an endorsement of socialism ? Because I thought the movie contained both tones at different times.
 
It feels inauthentic, both compared to Ballard's book and the country in the eighties (which, admittedly, is something I only know about from textbooks and documentaries). It takes something that's essentially an allegory and makes it totally absurd. You can say that it's all there from the material but there's something subdued, even boring, about Ballard's writing that grounds it.

I wouldn't say it endorses socialism or capitalism but it certainly condemns neoliberalism. Thatcher is basically the boogeyman for the liberal intelligentsia who make and watch these sort of films. The right wing doesn't really have much of a place in our creative media. If she's in a British movie, it's to inspire revulsion.
 
I guess I didn't mind that it was absurd because I kind of expected that. But it was also dark enough where the absurdity stopped being funny when it needed to be. It definitely posed some interesting and difficult questions and I thought it addressed them in a very interesting way.

It's weird because it's a film that basically says, "This is a microcosm of society, and we made our society incorrectly," and then makes an absurd portrayal of how, if given the opportunity, class warfare will tear us apart.

I thought it had socialist undertones to it, and I figured neoliberalism/libertarianism was getting shafted by the film. Don't get me wrong, I think libertarianism is a weak concept in this day and age, but I'm not sure it would be the downfall of our society quite like that.
 

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