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So it looks like their giving Gail Kim's spot to ODB. On tonight's impact she made the save for some random jobber, and then took down Kong and actually dominated until they were broken up. ODB doesn't have the in-ring ability that Kim did, but she is able to get the fans behind her, which is just as important as ring skills. I have a feeling that they are going to make ODB the # 1 face right now. Also I was surprised that they announced Kim's exit from TNA. The other knockout match was alright but at times messy. The Beautiful People got the win by help of Rico, I mean Kip. I think it would be good if Love win's the title as the next PPV since she will be able to feud with ODB & Roxxi but I'm not sure if it's gonna happen.
 
I just hope that Nash's input in tonight's broadcast established further why he should be both on television and in mid-upper main event matches. His match with Angle is one of two reasons why I didn't change the channel.

Obviously the other reason is Sting.
 
This is from Keller.. damn, highest demos ever..

Is Keller analyzing the 1 minute Kevin Nash sitdown interview again? Gosh, with his expertise, he needs to critique normal television shows like a 2 hour season premiere/finale of Lost or Dancing With The Stars so that we can know exactly why people left..

With the lowest quarter being 1.03 as compared to 1.1x, Keller says Morgan squashing someone in 3 minutes of the 15 minute quarter is "drawing low ratings". Glenn needs to call Keller up and tell him to shut the fuck up because he comes off as an incredible idiot when writing his "analysis".

To make things worse, gullibable posters on the net read his "analysis" and take it like it's fact

Keller/Meltzer = Idiots


I used to go to Meltzer's and Keller's sites, but not anymore. I know that much of the criticism towards TNA is justified, but it is the nitpicking and overanalyzing like this that drove me away. The thing that drove me away the most though is the double standard that they give TNA. On a yearly basis, WWE's ratings have been going down (they can't even get a high 3 consistently anymore) and they make the same mistakes that TNA does like making CM Punk not as strong as their top stars. TNA is guilty of doing the same with Joe, but I hear more flack for that towards TNA. The thing that really showed downright bias against TNA was when pwtorch was putting feedback entitled "Why I Don't Watch TNA Impact." Funny that there have literally been millions of lost viewers for WWE's product over the years, yet pwtorch failed to create any feedback that is more or less disparaging to WWE. At least the tag team champions of TNA haven't jobbed to the top wrestler in the company like how John Cena beat both the up-and-coming tag team champions Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase. Outside of the rant, I simply don't see why critics jump at negatively critiquing TNA, yet won't do the same for WWE. I am not saying that critics and pundits don't critique WWE at all, it is just that they do it vehemently more towards TNA as evidenced by the above ratings breakdown.
 
Keller and Meltzer's problem is that they sit down to watch with notebooks in hand. That might be the worst idea ever. I am a TNA fan. Tonight's show to me was pretty good. Sting's promo was amazing. I like how they are building JJ's comeback. I don't know what was gaining ratings or losing ratings.

The show seemed to have more focus. In order to build Kaz, they need to build the superfriends, and they did that. For the new blood feud, they need to start the break between Nash and Joe, and they did that. TNA has done something WWE could never do. They have established multiple women's feuds. They have also made Kip look gayer than the Billy and Chuck era did, and that's amazing.

I know MisterRob hates TNA, and will no doubt go line and by line and disect my opini, grammar, and spelling. That's cool. I respect his opinion. There are multiple stories all building up to a faction vs. faction war, and for once, it's not I hate you because you're on the other side. It has meaning. Kurt and AJ's pissing contest. Nash and Joe's divorce. TNA has adopted the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. AJ and Joe and JJ all have reasons to be fighting with Booker Kurt and Sting. I'm sure that the Guns and Dudleys will find a reason. Another cool idea they seem to have is to have no face/heel lines. If you want to cheer for the old guys, you can. If you are a young guy fan, then TNA seems ok with that.

This seems like clear, purpose driven writing and build. WIthin three weeks, TNA is going to be at its best ever. This might be the kick in the ass WWE needs to ramp up their game. We might all be winners here.
 
8/28/2008 impact:

i was a little disappointed with the ending, but it's pretty predictable story, with sting/aj...

but yeah, a pretty good show overall. kip was good. a lot of pretapes and packages because they did 3 shows in 2 days.. so they have to fill it up. abyss was somewhate interesting on karen's angle... nash/joe was okay.

looks like christian is on the right of that photo.

Sting's promo was really good...

bashir is feuding with petey

christy and curry man was interesting.
 
The 8/28 Impact came off pretty good.

I'll admit that I was a little confused what was happening during the first hour, as I didn't see much concerning the coming "war games" but then Sting and AJ brought the whole 2 hours together with their joint promo.

I too see things getting very interesting the next couple of months. And it is coming right at the start of the fall TV season when all the younger crowd will be home each Thursday night because of school. An excellent time to "hook `em" and reel them in. This is an angle that I feel will work very well for everyone on the roster.

The veterens from elsewhere versus the heart and soul of TNA. Sting was credible and made a good case for himself...no respect from the youngsters. AJ made a case for TNA young guns...no respect.

And when Jeff Jarretts music hit! Did anyone else notice the look of concern on Sting's face? It was that "Oh, shit!" look you see in a deer's eyes caught in a set of headlights...great stuff.
 
Originally Posted by Marty2Hotty
This is from Keller.. damn, highest demos ever..

Is Keller analyzing the 1 minute Kevin Nash sitdown interview again? Gosh, with his expertise, he needs to critique normal television shows like a 2 hour season premiere/finale of Lost or Dancing With The Stars so that we can know exactly why people left..

With the lowest quarter being 1.03 as compared to 1.1x, Keller says Morgan squashing someone in 3 minutes of the 15 minute quarter is "drawing low ratings". Glenn needs to call Keller up and tell him to shut the fuck up because he comes off as an incredible idiot when writing his "analysis".

To make things worse, gullibable posters on the net read his "analysis" and take it like it's fact

Keller/Meltzer = Idiots


I used to go to Meltzer's and Keller's sites, but not anymore. I know that much of the criticism towards TNA is justified, but it is the nitpicking and overanalyzing like this that drove me away. The thing that drove me away the most though is the double standard that they give TNA. On a yearly basis, WWE's ratings have been going down (they can't even get a high 3 consistently anymore) and they make the same mistakes that TNA does like making CM Punk not as strong as their top stars. TNA is guilty of doing the same with Joe, but I hear more flack for that towards TNA. The thing that really showed downright bias against TNA was when pwtorch was putting feedback entitled "Why I Don't Watch TNA Impact." Funny that there have literally been millions of lost viewers for WWE's product over the years, yet pwtorch failed to create any feedback that is more or less disparaging to WWE. At least the tag team champions of TNA haven't jobbed to the top wrestler in the company like how John Cena beat both the up-and-coming tag team champions Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase. Outside of the rant, I simply don't see why critics jump at negatively critiquing TNA, yet won't do the same for WWE. I am not saying that critics and pundits don't critique WWE at all, it is just that they do it vehemently more towards TNA as evidenced by the above ratings breakdown

Yeah, they do overanalyze, and I never took aything they wrote seriously since day one when TNA debuted. It seemed like they were always out to get TNA, hoping they would die. I base this on the sarcastic remarks Meltzer used to do for the weekly PPVs every single week. There were even rumours that he was paid by WWE at one time.

TNA for some reason has it much more dificult to please the online fans, even though IMO they are the much superior creative product.

Keller and Meltzer's problem is that they sit down to watch with notebooks in hand. That might be the worst idea ever. I am a TNA fan. Tonight's show to me was pretty good. Sting's promo was amazing. I like how they are building JJ's comeback. I don't know what was gaining ratings or losing ratings.
There wasn't as much entertainment over the past few weeks, but stories and continuity have been strong. More in-ring action - this week was more pretapes and packages because they did 3 shows in 2 nights - understandably. I do agree that meltz/keller watch their shows and type up reports at the time of watching. It's not a good idea. but the thing is they have a mentality that is stuck in the 80s and they give star ratings to matches, and talk about wanting finishes clean, and bash Russo when he tries to do something differently.. they never say Russo was a huge part of the WWF's success - propelling the ratings and buyrates and the business when he was writing for the WWF. THey like to focus on his WCW career and say his "direction" failed - when he wasn't given the full time - just to suit their biased views.

A little thing that I notice about TNA and Russo writing, is that Say Shiek/Petey got into scuffles last week, Russo would write the "last week" package, and then during this week's match something simlar will happen like Shiek accidentally crashing into Petey costing his match, and dissension between the two continues for the second week. As simple as something like that sounds, WWE can't do anything like that

That's why I watch wrestlign - i like this soap opera element that is done welll, and Russo is the only guy that knows how to do it. He then follows that (heel scuffling with a heel) with the "Cross The Line" package during the show.

Kute Kip and The Beautiful People were pretty funny. Seeing kIp as their valet is never before seen. A male wrestler being the valet for a tag team of women. Kip fits the role too.. it was amusing to me. Rhino makes the save, and it looks like KIp can already get into a feud with a male wrestler based on being associated with beautful people. HIm coming out with them is hilarious in the entrance...

Dunno what they have in store for BG, but Kip has been at TNA for over 4years going from meaningless gimmick to meaningless gimmick - VKM was a strong role, then they did a weak feud with him and BG doing 1 minute appearances per week. He was a former DX star, man..

Another cool idea they seem to have is to have no face/heel lines. If you want to cheer for the old guys, you can. If you are a young guy fan, then TNA seems ok with that.
Yeah, that is what made the last segment so interesting. Neither Sting/AJ were doing typical heel promos and they were talking based on the recent stories and actions.. People were kinda cheering sting, yet going "hmm.. ikinda disagree here".. AJ comes out and people cheer but they may go "i may disagree here".. It makes the stories very interesting in my eyes.. but man, i wanted more shit to go down.. Sting hits AJ, Jarrett's theme plays. I understand the slow build, but I have seen Russo's shows in the past and a lot more shit usually goes down - see the intro to new bloood vs millionaire's club 4/10/2000 - that is probably one of my alltime favourite shows in wrestling history

This seems like clear, purpose driven writing and build. WIthin three weeks, TNA is going to be at its best ever. This might be the kick in the ass WWE needs to ramp up their game. We might all be winners here.
Interesting thoughts. THere has been a serious direction - albeit some humour.. but i do miss entertainment in-ring segments/promos.. and maybe the next few weeks can provide some of that for me. I like entertainment done well.. TNA has focused on the more 'serious' stories..

I ALSO like the Gold medal being a prop for AJ/Kurt - Kurt is gtrying to get his gold medal back and AJ "doesn't have it" - dunno where it's going, but all i can see in my head is Rock brawling with Austin for the Stone COld belt, hitting off the cliff and throwing the belt over to wint he show - entertaining.

Russo also follows up on stories. See Traci Brooks who a month ago had "something" with Cornette. THis week Traci gets named the law enforcer of the knockouts and Cornette talks about "shelving" - another intrigue to add to the list

Also,MMG have done some weird behaviour and maybe we'll see a follow up to that.

I guess these are interesting. But i do miss the more comedy, humour, entertainment segments... Good to see Frank Trigg back as well.... that was funny. Kurt did a good promo as well..

Strong show, but for me to give a "super thumbs up", i'd have to be marking out to the twists/turns, entertainment value, and exciting action.. I look forward to next week - hopefully i can praise "the hell" out of the show :)
 
Stings promo in the end was the highlight of another meh show from TNA.

Lethal and Dutt continue to show why its the Worst Feud of the Year. Have no idea how anyone can even come up with dumb shit like that.

Awesome Kong Vs. ODB got off to a good start. The rest of the Knockouts didnt do so well, it was a solid tag match but everytime Velvet Sky entered the ring it just became awfully bad. That crossbody botch looked funny, too bad it made Taylor look like a idiot.
The Knockout Division has slowed down as of late, not as good as it used to be.

I still say TNA made the wrong call by not having Kurt take a break after Hard Justice. A good feud that has just become lackluster.

And to Sting. You did a very good promo, but I still feel that you have to go. Your only in it for the money these days, you wont put anyone over and you dont even wanna work house shows. Your the biggest waste of money in that company right now! Even Nash has wrestled more this year then you have.
 
Comments from second viewing of 8/28/2008 iMPACT!:

- Fast forwarded the Awesome Kong match. Intrigued at a bit of ODB's fight w/ her
- Re-watched the AJ Segment where he talks about him and Christian being a dysfunctional family. He hints that he does not have the gold medal (the prop - aka the 'secondary' title, lol)

- AJ talks about being a little pissed at Sting. - I kinda foresaw him interfering during Sting's segment

- I watched Bashir's entrance - I like his theme, haha. the intro has a plane crashing!

- STING and JEFF JARRETT need new themes. I hate Jarrett's theme and Sting's theme has too much guitar. Jarrett needs his "cowboy" intro back, and Sting needs a crow theme

- I remember the Kurt/Trigg promo, it was okay

- I like the aftermath of the Curryman/Rave match. I'm a little pissed that Shark Boy didn't stun both of them, followed by stunning Christy, followed by drinking his clam juice. That's how i would have written it.

- Booker t segment, kinda ffwd it i already saw it. i watched nash's interview.. then fast forwarded, he's just talking about his match

- i watched kurt/nash w/ joe commentary the first time. i still dont get why nash pushed joe. nash loses, they argue. fast forwarded the second tiem around

- i dont think there was entertaining stuff on the show that i could watch a second time around and really enjoy.

- i like the BFG little spots. They recap the guitar and then show jeff's package

- Watched the aftermath to knockouts match. Rhino makes the save on beautiful ppl beatdown of taylor after kip threatens to cut taylor's hair

- i didn't "re"-rewatch the sting segment because i already re-saw it a few days ago
 
Comments from second viewing of 8/28/2008 iMPACT!:

- Fast forwarded the Awesome Kong match. Intrigued at a bit of ODB's fight w/ her
- Re-watched the AJ Segment where he talks about him and Christian being a dysfunctional family. He hints that he does not have the gold medal (the prop - aka the 'secondary' title, lol)

- AJ talks about being a little pissed at Sting. - I kinda foresaw him interfering during Sting's segment

- I watched Bashir's entrance - I like his theme, haha. the intro has a plane crashing!

- STING and JEFF JARRETT need new themes. I hate Jarrett's theme and Sting's theme has too much guitar. Jarrett needs his "cowboy" intro back, and Sting needs a crow theme

- I remember the Kurt/Trigg promo, it was okay

- I like the aftermath of the Curryman/Rave match. I'm a little pissed that Shark Boy didn't stun both of them, followed by stunning Christy, followed by drinking his clam juice. That's how i would have written it.

- Booker t segment, kinda ffwd it i already saw it. i watched nash's interview.. then fast forwarded, he's just talking about his match

- i watched kurt/nash w/ joe commentary the first time. i still dont get why nash pushed joe. nash loses, they argue. fast forwarded the second tiem around

- i dont think there was entertaining stuff on the show that i could watch a second time around and really enjoy.

- i like the BFG little spots. They recap the guitar and then show jeff's package

- Watched the aftermath to knockouts match. Rhino makes the save on beautiful ppl beatdown of taylor after kip threatens to cut taylor's hair

- i didn't "re"-rewatch the sting segment because i already re-saw it a few days ago

Why are you telling us what you rewatched when there's little opinion or discussion added to it? Who the hell cares what you re-watched, why post it?


I'm personally really not liking how they're doing this whole new blood vs. millionaire club angle in TNA. Maybe I'm the only one, but I think it has a Ton of potential and is beginning to fall flat on its face already. I watched the Sting promo from this past Impact and I really thought there were SO many holes in his logic and the storyline that just don't make sense. I think TNA does a very bad job of building characters because the characters always come across poorly to me.. Angle, Samoa Joe, Sting, Booker T. TNA writers really need to learn how to develop their characters in a way that makes them look strong as characters and personalities, because they always come across as poor personalities. Why would Sting be ranting about respecting guys like Booker T who are "legends", and emphasizing Styles and Joe both taking it too far.. when there's nothing Booker T's done lately that has been respectable or anything but a heel personality? When wrestling back in the day, which he's promoting himself being part of, had those very same things happen all the time? Sting himself has done those very same things in his past!? Maybe Sting's so old his mind is going and he can't grasp on to the fact that Styles and Joe were both pushed in drawn out feuds that had escalated to the point where they would naturally be out for blood and revenge? It just makes no sense. It lacks logic and realistic character depth.

The playing of Jeff Jarrett's music at the end also was unnecessary and just silly. Unless you're going to have Jarrett come out and do something worthwhile it doesn't build suspense or intrigue it just makes the viewer (at least me) roll his eyes. Get on with it already. You draw things out too much and what happens is exactly what HAS happened in my case.. I don't care anymore. I was interested, now I'm not. Its just like Joe's title reign; they build him up well years ago and had the perfect chance to push him when he was hot and people were interested, then (like they always do) they draw it out and drag it along so much that you just lose interest and lose that momentum.

Also, why waste time on a PPV with a match like Rock N Rave Infection vs. the Super Heroes? That match should barely make it on a TNA Impact show, to put it on a PPV is ridiculous. The Rock N' Rave Infection get NO reaction. No one cares about them at all. Good booking TNA, that's going to help build interest in your PPV and make people want to watch it.
 
Lets see if I can try my hand at some TNA reviews

Darkshot77's Review of Impact 9/4/08

First off with the large ammount of promo's in impact (something that needs fixed) they seem to just run to get her and leave no Impact (pun intended) so if I miss some whoops.

Shiek Abdul Bashier v. Consequences Creed-Here I was impressed with the TNA writers. They took something mostly dumb and converted it into a suprising "turn of events." Also I was impredd with Abdul he seems to have found a purpose cutting good promos and being what Muhamed Hassan should have been. What he said was not racist had had real berring. Any ways the match saw Sheik pick up the win with feet on the ropes, but with fan and Creed's convincing he restarted (mostly dumb) the match which saw Creed pick up the win with a sunset flip. Now I assumed Bashier would attack the ref for being racist but when he slapped him the ref fought back and seemed to have wrestling background (unexpected). We will see where this goes. BTW Creed is #1 Contender

Beer Money Inc. v. The Prince Justice Brotherhood-It was supposed to be Curry Man but he was seduced and beaten by the Rock and Rave infection, so Shark Boy took his place. Earl Hebner never saw a tag so Eric couldn't be involved Last Call, Payoff and Beer Money gets the pin. Afterwards LAX and a returing Homiced comes out and brawl ensues.

ODB v. Raisha Saeed-Saeed dominates and ODB won with a powerslam. Afterwards ODB attemped to remove the veil but as beaten by Awsome Kong. Roxxi attemped to make the save but got an Awsome Bomb on a chair for her troubles.

Abyss v. Johnny Devine: Hardcore match-This invoved Johnny hitting Abyss with everything but the kitchen sink. When abyss went to use the chair he hesitated and got beat by team 3D. Matt Morgon made the save.

Four ways Qualifier: Christian Cage vs. AJ Styles-Lots of back and forth action in a very good match. Ref got knocked down allowing Frank Trigg to get a kendo stick shot on AJ leading to an Unprittier and Christian gets the pin.

So we have Christian Cage, Booker T, Kurt Angle, and Samoa Joe....see here is where TNA faails IMO. People like Kaz, AJ, and Abyss who have been with the company a longer time, get overlook so former WWE'rs get title shots. Booker shouldn't be with the company im ok with Cage and hell Kurt Angle is...well Kurt Angle. But still how bout you show some loyalty to your own wrestlers, once please. Out of 5 stars TNA gets 2
 
9/4/2008: WOW, a million times better than last week. I haven't finished the show yet. about half way through after the raeesha vs odb match. Thumbs WAY up so far - first time in probably 3-4 weeks.

First segment was hot! Great dialogue by Booker/Angle. They offer Christian the spot. Instead there is a brawl

- Great writing/performance by Joe.. the writing here is amazing.

- Sheik's promo was amazing too. What the hell was up with that referee man.. I never knew that old guy could wrestle. I liked that aftermath.

- Curry Man, SB, SE and Beer MOney segment was hilarious. Beer MOney = Beer Money Brokeback... totally gay, haha... I like that Curry Man was hitting on Christy. SB lost..

- Kute Kip with Beautiful people = pricelesss. Total Nonstop action show this week. Creed rough cut is pretty good. Nash's interview is pretty good

- ODB's segment where she takes a dump was weirdly funny and develops her character. ODB trying to unmask Raeesha was crazy... until Awesome Kong attacks.

- Abyss' match was cool, because 3D and Devine was hilarious. They use weapons.. doesn't make Abyss budge. Abyss is scared of weapons... and Matt Morgan makes the save

- The stories are progressing like crazy. AJ makes the save on the first segment and AJ and Christian shake hands

I really like Sheik Abdul Bashir, because i'm reading the "Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden" book by Morgan Spurlock, haha...

This is a tremendous show so far and probably the best show I have seen in a very long time. WAY better than last week.. I dont think anyone could have predicted that referee attacking Bashir like that..

They need to have the crowd be audible during backstage segments... Rock and Rave are finally in a program, as they attacked Curry Man...

Thumbs Way UP so far

The promo by Joe was total Ru$so.. because TNA can't do anything like that before.. STing must earn the respect, and he needs to say it to Joe's face.. and the fans.. wow

I have 1 hour to go

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my brother called it the best show in months..

The STing segment was good when STing talked about the fans choosing sides, him expecting to be booed.. I like the promo, and I liked Joe coming out and saying he didn't need the bat. Nash came out... Sting attacks JOe. Sting says Jeff has gotten his attention

This is very intriguing...

Trigg attacks AJ and costs him the match. AJ did a great promo - nice dialogue written by Ru$so obviously..

Tremendous show... Not as slow as last week, but they're still pacing it. Not as insane as 4/10/2000 nitro where the new blood vs millionaries were done for the entire show and it was the best show probably ever.. in my eyes... but yeah, slowly getting there, and great to see all the stars

video game looks great too
 
Wow, am I the only one that thought the first hour and 30 minutes were just bad and boring???
The rest was good because of AJ Vs. Cage.
ODB taking a crap must have been one of the worst things ive seen. That goes right up there with the stupidest things ever taken place in Pro Wrestling.
 
I started writing this over the course of the day, tabbing out, then tabbing back in and writing a little, then leaving and coming back. I ended up on a long tanged, and have included it on the bottom as depicted by the bold text. Basically, this is me verbally trying to express my most recent attempt of many to become a TNA fan, and a review of the show. I will continue to watch it for the next 3 weeks (4 weeks total) and post here if anyone appears interested in what I think about TNA.

Also, if this belongs in the iMPACT Review Thread, I'm sorry, but I felt this was more than a review, so if that's the case, feel free to close it and I will forget the idea. The idea being that I'd like to get into TNA and be a fan, and take the hour drive to watch an iMPACT taping every few weeks, but these are the reasons why I can't get into it, and I'd like some feedback.

First off, let me say. I have tried to watch TNA on several occasions, for long periods of time, especially once they got on Spike. Every time however, TNA just does not hold my interest. Wrestling really got my interest when I was in middle school (about 10-12 years ago) when the nWo first came out. Watching Hogan as a bad guy was just weird to me, so I started watching, and got sucked in.

Now I watch more casually, but something still drives me to watch Raw every week, and I usually skip SmackDown and ECW, simply because ECW sucks and I'm never home on Friday nights. I don't know if it's habit, or a desire to be a "hardcore fan" again, but I go through spurts of how frequently I watch.

Anyway, I read stuff by DI, who I happen to agree with about 80%-90% of the time, who also perks my interest more than anything actually. So, I tuned into iMPACT this week, and was pretty disappointed to say the least.

First and foremost, having the intros interwoven with the video game was just dumb. On top of that, graphically, the game looks hideous. I thought jaggies like that only existed on the Wii, but it looked like a buffed up PS2 game.

The first segment showed Angle, Booker T, and CC, cutting a promo. I don't understand why Booker T is talking like a ******ed version of his King Booker gimmick. It sounds so forced and unnatural as opposed to when he was in the WWE and trying to sound like royalty. Why? I don't get it. Then Christian comes out, and he starts talking like a normal person. WTF?

Then they have Joe cutting a promo. The guy talks so damned fast. He didn't sound cool, confident, and in control, he sounded freaked out. Isn't he the champ?

Then they showed Davari, or whatever his name is now, and he talked about how he came to this country blah blah, decent promo, but then he gets clobbered by the ref. HUH? He's not a comedic heel like Santino who has no credibility so getting beaten up by a ref would work. At least, I don't think he is. His promo seemed pretty serious, so what happened? On that note, why is the ref so buff ripping his shirt off? Is he a new ref who will become a Wrestler (in which case this would make sense), or an established ref who just beat up a performer. Why isn't he wrestling then? Why doesn't Earl Hebner tag with him in that case. Total loss of credibility in my opinion.

Also, since when is it acceptable for a ref to listen to the crowd to make decisions? If CC is claiming that his feet were on the ropes, then why not get a replay? They have screens in the building, so that made no sense to me.

From there, I kind of lost attention because I was pretty bored. I think AJ cut a shitty promo or something. The next thing I remember is ODB running around. Cool, panty shots, boob slapping, I like it. I've always thought the knockouts had the best performance value of the TNA roster since they came out, and since I started watching them (regardless of the fact that Velvet Sky and the other TBP lady can't cut a promo to save their life) I've enjoyed the majority of their work.

I got bored during the AJ and Christian match since the match seemed fake. While I know it is fake, it just felt fake. I didn't take notice of sell times (which has always bothered me about TNA), so that may have been it, but the constant "They just know each other so well that they keep telegraphing each others moves" got old fast and was way over-done.

Sting's Promo was great, as always, but what's with Jeff Jarret? I mean, the guitars are a good idea to tease him, but the music playing with no entrance is just dumb, at least in my book. I'm trying really hard to think of when that's been done in the past, but I just can't. Having a wrestler cue up another wrestler's music to draw heat with the fans is acceptable (think, Shawn Michaels queuing up Bret Hart's music when he was trying to get heel heat before his Hogan match). Teasing a comeback is also acceptable with promos and such, but to most people, entrance music means the person is there. Why would someone in the production truck randomly play the music? Does the production team have something against Sting? Is D-X in the production truck messing with Sting? It just makes no sense.

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I wrote this originally, and realized it's a large tangent. If you're curios about why I never got into TNA and why I've never cared about them, read it, otherwise, it's the end of the post.
Let me jump on a tangent first. I think TNA's best aspect and worst enemy are the fans. I've always thought this. TNA fans, and I mean hardcore fans, the ones who are there every week in the iMPACT Zone and the ones who wear TNA shirts to WWE Events and start TNA Chants at WWE Events. These people are not fans of the industry, but the kind of douche-bags that DI talks about (I think one of Raven's columns also mentioned that) that try to put themselves over at an event rather than enjoying the show.

I was at the WWE Survivor Series in Miami this last year, and I was sitting next to two guys who were wearing TNA Shirts (I think Team Canada shirts), and whenever the crowd got quiet, would start chanting "T-N-A... T-N-A." I told them they were a couple of idiots, and that nobody here gives a shit about TNA, because we paid to see the WWE. They gave up once the PPV got started, but it was still annoying. They're like these losers that go to Indy shows with an ECW Original, and chant "E-C-W... E-C-W" when they put someone through a table.

The second thing is, I really have a hard time taking the company seriously. The times I've tried to get into TNA, they had the Old Age Outlaws... I mean... VKM, going to the WWE Headquarters and shouting at the building at 1am or something ridiculous. Uhhh, don't these guys realize wrestling is scripted? What's the entertainment value of two old guys who can't give up their 15 minutes showing up at their old job. It came across as pathetic in my opinion, so I stopped watching TNA again.

Fast Forward. I went to WM in Orlando. I was at the Fan Axxxess, and right across the street, there is this pathetic TNA stand with a couple of cronies holding a belt. Wow, it was so pathetic. They were parked in the parking lot of a warehouse across the street, which they probably paid the owner $100 for the day to let them use.

Meanwhile, WWE has this HUGE setup, with a band, local TV stations, food, while TNA is renting out some guy's parking lot. It looked like they were trying to prove their worth. I mean, RoH does their shows before WM, but never anything at WM. It would have been one thing if TNA just had their live event, and left it at that, but that "HEY, WE EXIST TOO, DON'T FORGET ABOUT US," is just pathetic.

Then, I just read that Team 3D talked about the possibility signing with "the other guys." Why is it that WWE has to be a part of TNA, but TNA doesn't even exist to WWE? Can TNA stand on their own two feet? I'm not even talking about Russo hatred, which always seems to come up with TNA, I personally think the guy has had a lot of great ideas. It's just unfortunate that for every brilliant idea, there are probably 10 bad ones; I know I can think of several from the Attitude Era. It's also unfortunate that when you're trying to write TV once a week, that there is a much thinner filter for those bad ideas, so the really shitty ideas get remembered more than the bad ones. I mean, at least Russo didn't come up with The Shockmaster!

What I really want out of TNA is for them to be the Wrestling Alternative they claim to be, not those other guys at the party that nobody gives a shit about. I want them to be the party next door instead.

/end tangent

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it seems these days the only true alternative that tna could present to the wrestling business would be my martian feud. ufc is so real and wrestling's so fake, it might be worth a try. nathan jones could make a great alien super destroyer. just gotta figure out a way to fit a spaceship into the budget. of course he would be a humanoid. i watched the trailer on youtube the other day for "The Day The Earth Stood Still" with keanu nreeves, and it got my creative juices flowing.
 
Well, considering you are shooting at Universal Studios, there may be a few space-ships floating around, especially with Halloween Horror Nights in the midst. What I'd recommend, since you sat through my novel, is having Team 3D slowly grow antennae each week, and after about 4 weeks, have someone ask them whats up. Nathan Jones can come out wearing an evil Starfleet Uniform from the Enterprise "Alternate Universe" episode. He can take a phaser out, and using the lasers in the iMPACT Zone, have them blast Team 3D away.

Then dress Russo up in Green Paint, and have him be the father, and wrestle Nathan Jones down with a clean pin. Then, he can tell the TNA Fans chanting "Fire Russo" to shove it, that he is here to stay, and his people are too.

NOW THAT'S BOOKING... AMIRITE?
 
It sometimes becomes a chore for me to "post my review" on the boards, but I kinda feel it's my job to do so...

ANyways, THUMBS WAY UP...

First point my brother and I talked about: Rhino has been dropped to the bottom of the card. I know Ru$so likes booking his favourites to the main event: Booker T, Kurt Angle, Christian Cage, but damn, Rhino shouldn't be that low on the card that his only appearance is making the save for Taylor Wilde.

Ru$so also likes Abyss and Matt Morgan. I liked how Christian came out and took Abyss' open challenge. My brother said these guys have a long ass history - barbed wire bat, Christian being the super heel, him and the "secret". And when he was face, the stupid paparazzi camera stalking Christian's wife. ANyways... good match and Kurt/Booker interfere, and they give Abyss the chair, and Abyss nails Booker/Angle, until Angle/Booker get the fight and MORGAN comes out and gets on the mic and says they'll fight later. Great writing - stories leading to the matches the same night. Pure Ru$so.

First segment had Joe come out and Nash talked. I liked it.

I LOVED Trigg's promo.. totally cocky.. and AJ's handshake was like a little bitch.. him saying he doesn't have the hick metre so he can't understand AJ. Great ass segment.. great dialogue, great reaction from AJ. I actually LOVE the transitions TNA does now with the "Cross the line" packages.. and AJ starts walking out and grabbing the mic, following up on Trigg's last week segments..

Kong vs Roxxi was pretty crazy. ODB nails the ref. Some really good stuff throughout the entire show.

Sonjay did a good promo.. i liked that there were less pretapes this week and much more in ring talk and segments. You need the crowd reacting live with the wrestlers...

- BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE - entertaining as hell. First time in a LONG time that we saw this. I loved that PJB were the judges and Curry Man ALWAYS voted for Angelina.. hilarious as hell. I dont think Taylor is attractive but the fans were REALLY into this segment booing the beautiful people and cheering Taylor.

Taylor won the evening gown match, and Angelina used her ass and flirt skills on Curry Man and Shark Boy to win her bikini contest.. and the "oral presentation" was pretty entertaining... i liked the poem.. the singing was deliberately bad and Shark Boy didn't like it. We didn't hear from PJB.. but we saw them.. Super Eric voted for Taylor

Beautiful People are angry. Kip was good in his role.. and Kip nails Curry Man, and Beautiful Poeple attack Taylor.

I know they taped it all at the same time, but it was cool to be shown throughout the show...

- Samoa JOe will be given three opponents. I was intrigued by all three because it was fast paced, different, and the story was interesting. He kills Devine, and Lance Rock.

WEhat shocked me to death: TOMKO - as an "IWF" reading he left it was ABSOLUTELY shocking for me when JB said from "Jacksonville" i'm like "TOMKO???" This is the third time Tomko has jobbed to JOe. IT was a fun match though.. Nash says Joe doesn't need him anymore.

Sting on Karen's Angle. Terrific segment, good recaps, good question, and great emotion from STing.

Final Segment had Jeff Jarrett show up and not explain anything. He has puffy hair still.. I dont know what his role is but I hope Ru$so has something good for him.

Main event had 3D interfere and cost Abyss the match.

- Final package with Soulcrusher was awesome...

\- Christian cut a great promo for Canada.. Ru$so script.. and history of Christian's canadian past.. i was thinking "the net will love this promo"...

I dont know what else I'm missing here but this was a thumbs up show for sure... back to back - 2 straight weeks. Rhino is down below. which sucks, but I think they did a tremendous job of hyping everything else....

THUMBS WAY UP!
 
Not being Mr Negative here.

But the show sucked. Other then Cage´s promo there was nothing on this show.

TNA Knockouts can never bitch about the WWE Divas being all "bikini and lingerie".
Oh how TNA has fallen these last weeks.

Jeff Jarretts return must have been one of the most lackluster big returns ever.
 
I didnt like last night's show, due to the ending of the return of Jeff Jarrett, it's more worse than Jericho's SAVE_US.X29 promos.

The only thing that saved this was Kong vs. Roxxi. It shows that the Knockouts division is good, or probably better than the Heavyweight Division, and even the X Division (at its current state).

I can't even take Sting seriously these days because how he's been portrayed by his in-ring promos, they bore me. TNA needs some fine retuning fast.
 
Not being Mr Negative here.

But the show sucked. Other then Cage´s promo there was nothing on this show.

TNA Knockouts can never bitch about the WWE Divas being all "bikini and lingerie".
Oh how TNA has fallen these last weeks.

Jeff Jarretts return must have been one of the most lackluster big returns ever.

Actually from what i understand THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE are suppose to be a parody of wwe divas so it makes sense they would do something like that.
 
here's a post i made on another forum

ya gotta remember Vince Russo does like some cryptic booking, Perhaps it means JJ is on top of TNA as Vice President and that may finally be revealed and used for TV?

I don't know. there's a chance.. but yeah, JJ is back.. and he looks goofy.. but I'm more intrigued at how he'll be used

Someone mentioned that Nash's contract is up in 6 weeks and this may be the last of him because he wants to get more money for doing the least amount of work, I read, and he wants to go to WWE and maybe recreate Diesel. I guess we'll never see Nash turn on him. I liked the mentoring that he gave Joe..

I was shocked ot see Tomko.. I guess him jobbing to JOe clean works because he's not there at TNA long term.. and it does make Joe a machien for beating three straight opponents. I was a swerve in my eyes to see Tomko as Im online readint he "newz". I kinda hated Tomko just jobbing.. but I"m sure the online fans loved Joe winning..

The beautiful people segments were short, taped at thesame time and the first time in a while where I saw in-ring entertainment segments in TNA.. it's been a while man...

I thought Angelina Love stole the show.. The scene where she takes her robe off to Curry Man and Shark Boy, leading to them voting for her is vintage Ru$so.. Very very entertaining and IMO a clear example of entertaining segments that current WWE is UNABLE to pull off.
 
TNA Impact scored earned a 1.1 cable rating last night -- a .82 in M18-49, a .58 in P18-49, a .67 in M18-34, a 1.68 in M12-17, and an average audience of 1.5 million viewers.

The show did quarter hours of:

1.03
1.00
.97
1.05
1.09
1.23
1.26
1.12

Great rating. Damn, teh beauty pagent drew pretty high ratings!!

I put the "current" streak at two weeks.. I think the last two weeks were really strong! I'd love this stuff when i was watching the attittude era

Great characters, stories, the shows are a million times better than they were in 2005

Kudos to TNA for another great show. It had humour, drama, good action, entertainment, trigg/aj, character development

It had 'some' edgyness, although i want it up about 10 more notches
 
A 1.1 is a great rating??? Same old shit, same old shit, same old shit!!

Only the last part of the Beauty Pageant drew a high rating. The rest was the usual.
Im glad Karens Angle got such a shit rating. It deserves it every week.

Impact really needs to pick up after No Surrender. The last shows has been so lackluster, no logic and just bad.
Impact needs to slow down and not have too much things on the table. Not one promo or match from Beer Money, LAX or MCMG. They had to be sidelined because of the Beauty Pageant crap.
Russo didnt much good in this weeks show, thats for damn sure.
 
Another TNa Impact,another near two hours of wrestlers on the mic,blah blah blah,,plugging PPVs & matches thatll happen,,some other week-maybe.A match finally begins-Hey! time for a commercial break or its thrown out when wrestler-not getting a look in-invades.
This kinda yakkity-smakkity does not make me wanna tune in next week let alone buy the average rated PS3 game.
Instead of No Surrender ,why not have a PPV called No Microphones.God forbid,you would have to fill it with actual WRESTING!!
 
Coach Z is not that cool, Here comes a review

Lets get on with it, shall we.

Darkshot77's review of Impact 9/18/08

Today was an anomaly, Impact was dominated by in-ring segments, but when the show ended I felt very impressed. Though I can't say the same about the wrestling.

We start the show with an above average promo from Samoa Joe (above average for him). Looks like he picked up a tip from John Cena, If you can convay your passion and anger you can cut a promo by screaming and shouting. Joe did a good job. He says that he wont respect sting caise Sting shows up how he wants when he wants, and when he stars busting his ass for the company then Joe will respect him.

The Motor City Machineguns v. AJ Styles and Christan Cage-Solid, but nothing to write home about. AJ Gets the pin with a Styles Clash. We see respect between the Guns and Styles but not Christian. This leads to dissension among AJ and Christan back stage later. The announcers were hinting at the Guns joining the side of the TNA originals, hopefully they can pick up a win soon.

There were a slew of back stage segments so I will highlight some now. Sheik is holding the X-division title for ransom, Roughcut with Roxxi, Morgan and Abyss and 3D yell at each other, Beautiful People, Booker talked about how Leathal is being dissrespectfull to the Macho Man, Leath fired back saying he is showing respect by emulating him...and I think that it.

6-man tag: Johnny Devine, Petey Willams, and Jimmy Rave v. The Prince Justice Brothehood-Decent match, Brotherhood wins with a Super Eric crossbody. This leads to Lance Rock, Rave, and Devine blaming the loss on Petey, only to result in Petey and ref Shane Sewell clearing the ring.

Miss Jacky starts something with Hector, and LAX and Beer Money get involved. Traci Brooks takes them to cornetts office and makes a match where Hector and LAX will face Beer Money and Jacky loser loses their manager. Goodbye Hector. Nice knowing ya.

Sting takes center stage and tells his side of the story, He says he dosent have to hang arround and bust it for the company cause he earned his right and payed his dues in a much harder period of time. He says he learned respect from the greats like Dusty and Flair. And its high time they all respected him. This would have been very good if he didnt say Joe every 2 seconds. We get it your talking to him.

Booker T v. Jay Lethal-Very good match. Lost of back and forth but Sharmell got involved and booker gets the pin.

Velvet Sky and Cute Kip v. Taylor Wild and Rhino-I missed the match

So we get to the ending segment Double J comes out to a chorus of cheers. He says he founded this company to give stars their big break. he calls sting out and referances WCW in that it fell because they wouldnt push younger talent. Sting dosent want respect, he wants to keep his spot. Then Kurt Angle comes outand Jeff tells us that he hand picked kurt to fill his shoes cause he had to leave for personal reasons, and it was the worst mistake of his life cause Kurt has failed. Kurt says that Jarret left cause he was washed up and that Kurt carried the company. He chalenges Jarret to a match at bound for glory Jarret refuses cause he has nothing to prove. Kurt says he is washed up again and Jarrt tells him he dosnt want any of this Hate that he has on him but...and then Mick Foley appers on the screne.

Final thoughts:High point of the night. For some reason I am really enthralled by this feud more than anything else in wrestling at the moment. The Feud seems really real to me, I say the writers have done a good job up to this point. Lets just see where this goes. *crosses fingers*
 
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