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i love how you say the curry man gimmick is one dimensional and the likes because christopher daniels came up with that himself before he was in TNA. so he obviously likes it, some people seem to like it, and if he does good matches then watch the match and keep your bad opinions to yourself. if you dont like the program then dont watch it. i personally find TNA a good show, while i can barely stand most of WWE's programming. but i just like good wrestling. and shows that dont start off with the same 3 guys in the ring talking for 30 minutes.
besides, you guys talk about TNA ratings, WWE has been around for decades, had time to become mainstream, grow a fan base, get the ratings. TNAs been there for a few years and is almost matching a WWE show. thats pretty impressive if you ask me
 
Originally Posted by Marty2Hotty
I disagree w/ your Booker T statement. TNA's Booker T as a heel is my favourite Booker T character ever. I saw his old segments with King Booker/Batista on SD where absolutely nothing happened. That pissed me off. This guy is hilarious in his locker room and strong on his in-ring promos, etc. Entertaining too.

Well, I'll accept this as proof you never watched the WWE, because sorry to tell you everything Booker T's doing right now is EXACTLY the same as King Booker in the WWE. So, I'm glad you find WWE stuff entertaining.
I never watched much WWE with King Booker. I saw one of his SUPER LONG boring segments with him in the ring calling out Batista. Very boring. The dialogue is different, there's some humour in booker now. "i never knew yhou got a picture of the greatest" pointing at muhammad ali (JB). Booker says, "and the guy standing next to me is Muhammad Ali"

Booker/JB champagne segment, him talking about drinking the best champagne. I think it's very differently done

No, of course WWE can't do entertainment.. that's why they're the biggest wrestling company in the world and have been forever. That's why their ratings triple TNA's. And my talk on wrestling should be wrestling isn't IWF talk, its the talk of a WRESTLING fan.
WWE was almost dead until Russo saved their asses. Ask David Sahadi. They got them to 6.9. Now WWE lost half their audience without competition. SO their version of "entertainment" is not working... and they're living off whatever formula they can copy from Russo's past successful programming, and doing it poorly in my eyes, but decent enough to retain that audience

Oh, Duttt/Lethal/Val is completely lame and totally played out. Its been done a thousand times before made even worse because you have lame characters involved now.
That's your opinion. To me, it gives them each a role on the show and something to do. Helluva lot better than two guys just wrestling for the sake of it. In addition, the ring being "lost" by Val led to curry/shark/eric's segments which made me laugh my ass off. so there's somethign coming out from that. It gives us more character from each of the three in the love triangle as wlel..

Remember Hurricane Helms.?? That is proof at WWE not knowing how to write shit with these types of gimmicks. they didn't do jack shit with this guy except have him come out, say his line and wrestle. Super Eric has story, has good comedy and is always doing something funny/interesing... that's the difference between WWE and Russo.

Another example of the unoriginality of TNA, thanks. Every character they have is a rip off of one from WWE. Great stuff! And the Hurricane was by far more entertaining then Super Eric, and that's saying something for a super heroic gimmick. The Hurricane's segments with the Rock were better then anything Super Eric or Russo have done with the character.
Not a ripoff... Hurricane sucked. Tell me what Hurricane did that was entertaining other than come out in his cloack, wrestle and leave. Eric has already done more entertaining stuff than Hurricane's entire run. I dont remember any Rock/Hurricane segments... Super Eric is getting exciting now and this week was great

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Same applies to Daniels because throughout his career he's been this boring, serious wrestler that talks about "fallen angel" BS.. now he's hilarious doing a japanese character and saying/doing a lot of great/funny segments...


Personal preference obviously. The Christopher Daniels character could've been used in so many different ways and taken him to great lengths if used right, where as the Curry Man character is one dimensional and will keep him stuck exactly in the role he is.
Daniels as fallen angel was boring. he said the same shit and it always put me to sleep. The irony is the IWC for the most part likes Curry Man. from what I read. Now they're letting him talk and interact with others. To ME that's the funny part. The IWC seemed to get a kick out of him just dancing and coming to the ring, wrestle, and leave. To me, that's okay, but i want to know more about the guy. Now, we're hearing him talk, interact, flirt with girls. To me, that's great, and really shows a different side of Daniels that I have never seen before. Him being actually entertaining/funny and not boring.. Kudos to Daniels.

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OVer the past month alone they went up from low .9s to 1.1. Imagine what would happen in 6-7 months.. I predict a 1.5

You seem to have an extremely short term memory. I already put this argument to rest; over the last few years they've constantly fell to .9s and come back to 1.1's. Its nothing new, its not something that breeds hope, its just the same cycle all over again. I don't have to imagine what'll happen in 6-7 months because all I have to do is look at history. And if TNA starts going in the right direction they better be doing better then a 1.5 in 6-7 months. ECW has done 1.5 and their product is pathetic.
Okay.. yes.. MY argument is TNA has never gone one consistent direction. They'd do 2-3 months of Russo esque programming and then take it away due to people like you complaining. Every time ratings go up, they go back down when TNA focuses on wrestling and nothing entertaining whatsoever.

So, your take is if TNA breaks their highest rated record of 1.2 and reaches 1.5, you'll just bitch and say ECW has done 2.4? that's ridiculous. WWE has a huge history and promotion to build up to their C-show, while TNA started from scratch. I dont konw why TNA is doing 1s while smackdown and raw are doing 2s and 3s, other than WWE having that "name" recognition and people know when they're on. I'm not sure all wwe casual viewers who tune in even know about TNA.

It's more of an exposure thing. IMO, TNA blows all three WWE shows combined away in terms of excitement, innovation, creativity, entertainment, comedy, matches, drama, dialogue, you name it.... the only thing they dont have competing with wwe is production and maybe large venues with large number of fans, but TNA is slowly growing.

I'm willing to bet TNA will get to 1.5 in this direction in 6-7 months... so that's my take.. peace

in regareds to hauser, i agree.. if you dont like it dont watch, I dont watch WWE for that very reason. I remember after Russo left i'd still try and watch wwe and tape/fast forward the shows everyh week for about 1-2 years before i just sotpped watching.

I thought "Hell, i'm not enjoying this, i'm not gonna watch". Chris Cash talking to Glenn made a stupid statement saying we watch hoping it will get better, etc. How is wwe going to get better if they're not wanting to do anything significantly different than they have done before? AT least with Russo, yhou have a guy who is known to try and make things interesting and do things differently. I'm such a huge fan of him that I watdch TNA and see if the shows become entertaining, which often they can be.

I agree with hauser: "besides, you guys talk about TNA ratings, WWE has been around for decades, had time to become mainstream, grow a fan base, get the ratings. TNAs been there for a few years and is almost matching a WWE show. thats pretty impressive if you ask me"

MisteRob, TNA already has you watching and discussing about TNA every week. THey're not concerned about you. They're concerned about getting new viewres loving TNA like I do... and w/ this direction i'm sure they can do it.
 
This weeks edition of Impact sucked long and hard. They have been on a good streak of good shows but that ended quickly this week.
It was so many wrongs with the show that im not even gonna put them all up. This was more boring then Raw, and Raw was boring.

Thank god SmackDown is around these days.
 
I loved Impact this week: great action, good build towards Hard Justice and of course, the awesome threesome of Curryman, Young and Shark Boy, which is the best thing TNA is doing right now. I don't know if I am ruining it or not, but I have a feeling Abyss may join the group. Just imagine those 4 together!

As far as ratings are concerned, I don't see how can TNA jump to 2.0, when WWE hasn't increased their ratings in years.
 
I never watched much WWE with King Booker. I saw one of his SUPER LONG boring segments with him in the ring calling out Batista. Very boring. The dialogue is different, there's some humour in booker now. "i never knew yhou got a picture of the greatest" pointing at muhammad ali (JB). Booker says, "and the guy standing next to me is Muhammad Ali"

Booker/JB champagne segment, him talking about drinking the best champagne. I think it's very differently done.

If you never watched King Booker then you can't make an opinion about how similar/different it is. Simple as that. Anyone who DID watch King Booker in the WWE and has watched Booker T in TNA can't deny how similar the two characters are.


WWE was almost dead until Russo saved their asses. Ask David Sahadi. They got them to 6.9. Now WWE lost half their audience without competition. SO their version of "entertainment" is not working... and they're living off whatever formula they can copy from Russo's past successful programming, and doing it poorly in my eyes, but decent enough to retain that audience.

Learn about what you're talking about before you talk about something, please. WWE's formula and direction is nothing even remotely the same as it was back in the Attitude Era. They got rid of that style a LONG time ago. And claiming their version of entertainment isn't working is the most asinine thing a person could say; they're one of the highest rated shows on TELEVISION and have millions of viewers every week. Get over it.

Not a ripoff... Hurricane sucked. Tell me what Hurricane did that was entertaining other than come out in his cloack, wrestle and leave. Eric has already done more entertaining stuff than Hurricane's entire run. I dont remember any Rock/Hurricane segments... Super Eric is getting exciting now and this week was great.

Entirely a rip off; cape and all. Look up Hurricane and the Rock on youtube, blows Super Eric away.


Okay.. yes.. MY argument is TNA has never gone one consistent direction. They'd do 2-3 months of Russo esque programming and then take it away due to people like you complaining. Every time ratings go up, they go back down when TNA focuses on wrestling and nothing entertaining whatsoever.

Let me know what this weeks ratings turn out to be.


So, your take is if TNA breaks their highest rated record of 1.2 and reaches 1.5, you'll just bitch and say ECW has done 2.4? that's ridiculous. WWE has a huge history and promotion to build up to their C-show, while TNA started from scratch. I dont konw why TNA is doing 1s while smackdown and raw are doing 2s and 3s, other than WWE having that "name" recognition and people know when they're on. I'm not sure all wwe casual viewers who tune in even know about TNA.

No MY take is that if TNA can only get a 1.5 in 6-7 months (and we're assuming a GOOD product here) to match ECW's ratings, when ECW has a roster of 14 people, with only a FEW who could ever be labeled as know "stars", and who supposedly aren't even on the same level as half of TNA's top stars, and with an ECW show that is nothing impressive by anyone's standards and half as much time to develop a show, then I'll still be highly disappointed with very good reason.


It's more of an exposure thing. IMO, TNA blows all three WWE shows combined away in terms of excitement, innovation, creativity, entertainment, comedy, matches, drama, dialogue, you name it.... the only thing they dont have competing with wwe is production and maybe large venues with large number of fans, but TNA is slowly growing.

As always, the ratings disagree.


MisteRob, TNA already has you watching and discussing about TNA every week. THey're not concerned about you. They're concerned about getting new viewres loving TNA like I do...

Which they're not getting.


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As far as ratings are concerned, I don't see how can TNA jump to 2.0, when WWE hasn't increased their ratings in years.

Yet again, the WWE are one of highest rated shows in ALL of TELEVISION so them increasing their ratings when the numbers they're doing are still high compared to any present standards has nothing to do with TNA doing low 1's. I'm not comparing WWE to TNA, I'm comparing TNA to themselves and their own personal growth on television. ECW back in the day had more growth, quicker, then TNA and I think TNA should learn from those before.. by offering a UNIQUE product that's different then the rest. That's how you stand out and that's how you draw attention to yourself and make people start watching, and that's exactly why more people (and new people) aren't watching. They don't want to see a poorly done version of WWE when they can watch the WWE themselves, they want to see something different and so do I. Here's hoping eventually people in TNA will realize that and start going in the right direction, despite the die hard TNA fans who are fine to settle for mediocrity.
 
Let me know what this weeks ratings turn out to be.
The rating was another 1.1. I dont konw the specifics yet... but it's better than a .9

It's slowly increasing.. it takes time.. but they're not "losing" viewers with shows like this... Russo didn't turn WWF in a few months.

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So, your take is if TNA breaks their highest rated record of 1.2 and reaches 1.5, you'll just bitch and say ECW has done 2.4? that's ridiculous. WWE has a huge history and promotion to build up to their C-show, while TNA started from scratch. I dont konw why TNA is doing 1s while smackdown and raw are doing 2s and 3s, other than WWE having that "name" recognition and people know when they're on. I'm not sure all wwe casual viewers who tune in even know about TNA.

No MY take is that if TNA can only get a 1.5 in 6-7 months (and we're assuming a GOOD product here) to match ECW's ratings, when ECW has a roster of 14 people, with only a FEW who could ever be labeled as know "stars", and who supposedly aren't even on the same level as half of TNA's top stars, and with an ECW show that is nothing impressive by anyone's standards and half as much time to develop a show, then I'll still be highly disappointed with very good reason.
My point would be that 1.5 would be TNA's highest ratings ever and would be double the audience of what they had to start. ECW has WWE to promote their show. 1.5 on Spike would be good.. and i want them to continue go to up from there. Again, I dont know why TNA is doing 1s and WWE is doing 3s, but IMO they deserve higher ratings than all WWE shows combined.

Looks like you'll be negative even if TNA gets 2.0. but yeah, they're not there yet. they're at 1.1... with 2 hours.. and i want them to only get better. I think they need some sort of WELL DONE publicity stunt, not crap like aj pierzynski, or pacman jones

As always, the ratings disagree.
The ratings also disagreed when WWF started the attitude era in 97 compared to WCW. What happened in 2 years after?

Yet again, the WWE are one of highest rated shows in ALL of TELEVISION so them increasing their ratings when the numbers they're doing are still high compared to any present standards has nothing to do with TNA doing low 1's. I'm not comparing WWE to TNA, I'm comparing TNA to themselves and their own personal growth on television. ECW back in the day had more growth, quicker, then TNA and I think TNA should learn from those before.. by offering a UNIQUE product that's different then the rest. That's how you stand out and that's how you draw attention to yourself and make people start watching, and that's exactly why more people (and new people) aren't watching. They don't want to see a poorly done version of WWE when they can watch the WWE themselves, they want to see something different and so do I. Here's hoping eventually people in TNA will realize that and start going in the right direction, despite the die hard TNA fans who are fine to settle for mediocrity.
you're kidding right>? They're doing okay on cable. but AMerican Idol does like 20 million viewers and top network shows do 15-20 million.
You're comparing ECW at a time when wrestling was hot?

WWE's ratings have been cut in half since Russo wrote for them and this is without competition. Wrestling is not hot, and you expect TNA to do high 2s when they haven't even really gotten their name out there yet?

TNA is oding WAY better in terms of writing, developing characters. I dont know how you can say they're doing a poor job. I dont know how you even continue to sit through WWE. You must have the mental age of a 6 year old to find their shows compelling and mind stimulating. You honestly amrk out to the same moves in wrestling matches and lame/cheesy dialogue that gets no reaction? I sure as hell don't. At least with TNA (now) I get some entertainment and enjoyment out of it. Watching any match/promo in WWE makes me feel insulted

Watch what TNA does in the long run if they maintain this direction
 
Yet again, the WWE are one of highest rated shows in ALL of TELEVISION so them increasing their ratings when the numbers they're doing are still high compared to any present standards has nothing to do with TNA doing low 1's. I'm not comparing WWE to TNA, I'm comparing TNA to themselves and their own personal growth on television. ECW back in the day had more growth, quicker, then TNA and I think TNA should learn from those before.. by offering a UNIQUE product that's different then the rest. That's how you stand out and that's how you draw attention to yourself and make people start watching, and that's exactly why more people (and new people) aren't watching. They don't want to see a poorly done version of WWE when they can watch the WWE themselves, they want to see something different and so do I. Here's hoping eventually people in TNA will realize that and start going in the right direction, despite the die hard TNA fans who are fine to settle for mediocrity.

But you are comparing WWE to TNA. How do you know TNA isn't doing good ratings? By comparing them to WWE's ratings. WWE does 3.5's, TNA does 1.0, hence TNA is bad. The only time WWE ever had significant growth, as far as ratings is concerned, was thanks to Russo. I'm not saying it was all because of him, but he played a huge part of it. That's why Russo should write for TNA.

And ECW didn't have much growth either: they started at 0.9, with their highest rating being a 1.3, and this was during the attitude era, where there was much more fans.

TNA doesn't have to be unique from WWE, it has to be better than WWE. People should watch TNA and say, "wow, WWE is boring compared to this", instead of "ok this is different". Different doesn't mean better.
 
The rating was another 1.1. I dont konw the specifics yet... but it's better than a .9

It's slowly increasing.. it takes time.. but they're not "losing" viewers with shows like this... Russo didn't turn WWF in a few months.

I'm still trying to figure out where this "slow increase" is, they're not increasing at all. And Russo's been there for years, stop making excuses. I'm not buying the crap you're selling because Russo's been a MAJOR influence on the product for a long time now.


Looks like you'll be negative even if TNA gets 2.0. but yeah, they're not there yet. they're at 1.1... with 2 hours.. and i want them to only get better. I think they need some sort of WELL DONE publicity stunt, not crap like aj pierzynski, or pacman jones

If they reach a 2.0 and the shows are as awful as they are now, I certainly will be negative, yes.



The ratings also disagreed when WWF started the attitude era in 97 compared to WCW. What happened in 2 years after?

TNA is nothing compared to the WWF's product back during that time. Your comparison doesn't hold up in any way.


you're kidding right>? They're doing okay on cable. but AMerican Idol does like 20 million viewers and top network shows do 15-20 million.

You're using the top rated show in ALL of television as an example there. WWE gets 5-6 million viewers, that is in by far better then "okay" compared to television viewership overall.


You're comparing ECW at a time when wrestling was hot?

You contradict yourself so much and you entirely missed the point here. The point was that ECW gained momentum and became the third major promotion in wrestling at that time because they were unique and were doing something ground breaking compared to the other top two promotions. TNA isn't going to compete with WWE by doing a WWE style product, they need to do something DIFFERENT.


WWE's ratings have been cut in half since Russo wrote for them and this is without competition. Wrestling is not hot, and you expect TNA to do high 2s when they haven't even really gotten their name out there yet?

Of course I do. With a good product on television, with good promotion and advertising (which they've been horrible at) there should be no reason they can't get close to 2's. But they drastically need to change a lot of things before that happens.


TNA is oding WAY better in terms of writing, developing characters. I dont know how you can say they're doing a poor job. I dont know how you even continue to sit through WWE. You must have the mental age of a 6 year old to find their shows compelling and mind stimulating. You honestly amrk out to the same moves in wrestling matches and lame/cheesy dialogue that gets no reaction? I sure as hell don't. At least with TNA (now) I get some entertainment and enjoyment out of it. Watching any match/promo in WWE makes me feel insulted.

The same way 5-6 million other viewers sit through it all. And when you're praising Super Eric and all the other sad gimmicks and storylines in TNA right now, I don't think you should be talking about anyone's 6 year old mental capacity. I could go on and on about the good in WWE, but why would I? You don't watch the product, you're entirely biased and can't see past your hard on for Russo, so there really is nothing to debate.


Watch what TNA does in the long run if they maintain this direction

Oh, I'm watching.
 
Well.I have a complaint to make! I was watching the usual two hour of skits on TerribleNonsenseActing when my enjoyment was interupted by of all things,a wrestling match!!
Seriously though.120 minutes (minus ads) off,,T berating Joe.Joe berating T.Mach beratiing Val.AJ berating Sting.Angle berating AJ.blah blah blah,milk PPV for another week.reselove nothing for another week..I think the only match that actually went ahead was the knockouts tag match !I think Super Eric & his comic reliefers could save TNA fans by evaporating all the handily placed mics,leaving the Roster with no choice but to wrestle which,at the end of the day,IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SHOW!!!!
 
If they reach a 2.0 and the shows are as awful as they are now, I certainly will be negative, yes.
If they reach 2.0 and you don't like them and I do, who really gives a flying fuck whatyou think.. they're succeeding on a show you don't necessarily like but the masses like.

You contradict yourself so much and you entirely missed the point here. The point was that ECW gained momentum and became the third major promotion in wrestling at that time because they were unique and were doing something ground breaking compared to the other top two promotions. TNA isn't going to compete with WWE by doing a WWE style product, they need to do something DIFFERENT
what are you talking about? ECW is dead.. and they're not coming back.. although WWE is using their name. Paul Heyman never succeeded. He had a niche crowd on the Internet, that's it, nothing more.

I could go on and on about the good in WWE, but why would I?
Because you can't?
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Watch what TNA does in the long run if they maintain this direction

Oh, I'm watching.
Yeah, you watch TNA to bitch and whine about somethign you "dont like". I dont know anyone who watches a show they hate. You love TNA, face it. You just like to come on here and imitate all the negative posters and say how bad TNA is when you love it. I was a huge WWF fan when Russo was writing. I'm not a fan of WWE now so I don't watch it. I'm sorry if I can't bash WWE specifically because I tend to not watch shows I hate.. unlike you. oh wait, I'm sure you love TNA.. you're stil watching.

TNA is focusing on trying to get peopel who are not watching and getting them interested. Obviously you care about TNA to not only follow every week, but to come on the wrestlezone TNA section of the forums and debate the Impact shows. You must show some interest

You won't see me on an OFfice US forums, or American Idol forums, because i dont care about their shows. You won't also see me watching or talking about WWE, because I dont care for WWE nor do I find any of their programming remotely entertaining.. their shows completely suck and is a piece of shit in my eyes. TNA is light years ahead of WWE in terms of creative in my eyes.. probably the best wrestling show that most eyes aren't watching.

Bottom line, if you don't like it, stop watching. TNA is not focused on someone who goes on the net and talks about somethign they follow every week, just to bitch and whine about it. You're already talking and watching.
 
If they reach 2.0 and you don't like them and I do, who really gives a flying fuck whatyou think.. they're succeeding on a show you don't necessarily like but the masses like.

Thats an entirely hypothetical statement so making it just sounds fucking stupid on your part. Its also what the masses probably think of your opinions on the WWE.


what are you talking about? ECW is dead.. and they're not coming back.. although WWE is using their name. Paul Heyman never succeeded. He had a niche crowd on the Internet, that's it, nothing more.

You're an idiot then. ECW was exactly in the same place TNA is right now, so you just insulted the product you love so much. Good job!


Because you can't?

Clear example of the 6 year old mentality that TNA and Russo draw as their following. Last night's Smackdown segment with Edge and Mick Foley blows away anything TNA has done all year; and that's just one segment and ONE example.


Yeah, you watch TNA to bitch and whine about somethign you "dont like". I dont know anyone who watches a show they hate. You love TNA, face it. You just like to come on here and imitate all the negative posters and say how bad TNA is when you love it. I was a huge WWF fan when Russo was writing. I'm not a fan of WWE now so I don't watch it. I'm sorry if I can't bash WWE specifically because I tend to not watch shows I hate.. unlike you. oh wait, I'm sure you love TNA.. you're stil watching.

I'm guessing you're just hitting puberty because your arguments remind me of high school. I watch TNA, and seldom can I get through their whole show without eventually turning it off, because I'm a wrestling fan and I enjoy wrestling. I enjoy watching TNA's talent wrestle, but everything else about the show.. the shitty storylines, the shitty promos, the shitty direction, the shitty announcers, the shitty gimmicks, make it very hard for me to do so. That's not the same with the WWE, their entire product is at least watchable most of the time. I guess that makes me a more die hard TNA fan then you, as I watch the product even when it blows because I believed in them in the beginning and have faith they may just keep making something of themselves.


TNA is focusing on trying to get peopel who are not watching and getting them interested. Obviously you care about TNA to not only follow every week, but to come on the wrestlezone TNA section of the forums and debate the Impact shows. You must show some interest

You won't see me on an OFfice US forums, or American Idol forums, because i dont care about their shows. You won't also see me watching or talking about WWE, because I dont care for WWE nor do I find any of their programming remotely entertaining.. their shows completely suck and is a piece of shit in my eyes. TNA is light years ahead of WWE in terms of creative in my eyes.. probably the best wrestling show that most eyes aren't watching.

When did I ever say I wasn't interested? I'm a wrestling fan, you tool. You expect nothing but praise from a shitty wrestling show, which is exactly what TNA is and the general public agrees.. the only way anything, whether it be a television show or otherwise, can grow and develop is not just from praise when they do well but also from criticism when they do poorly so they can learn from their mistakes and do better, and thats exactly what TNA needs to do. So sorry to tell you, I'll keep criticizing TNA all I want, which these boards are made for.. the good and the bad.. until TNA starts doing something that I can praise them about. If you don't like it go to one of your other forums, try to speak to the blind sheep, and don't respond to or read my posts. It's as simple as that.
 
You're an idiot then. ECW was exactly in the same place TNA is right now, so you just insulted the product you love so much. Good job!
TNA is making money now. ECW didn't survive

in regards to wwe vs tna, you watch every wrestling you can. In my opinion, WWE is not worth my time because it's incredibly boring, lame and cheesy. that's why i dont watch it.

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Yeah, you watch TNA to bitch and whine about somethign you "dont like". I dont know anyone who watches a show they hate. You love TNA, face it. You just like to come on here and imitate all the negative posters and say how bad TNA is when you love it. I was a huge WWF fan when Russo was writing. I'm not a fan of WWE now so I don't watch it. I'm sorry if I can't bash WWE specifically because I tend to not watch shows I hate.. unlike you. oh wait, I'm sure you love TNA.. you're stil watching.

I'm guessing you're just hitting puberty because your arguments remind me of high school. I watch TNA, and seldom can I get through their whole show without eventually turning it off, because I'm a wrestling fan and I enjoy wrestling. I enjoy watching TNA's talent wrestle, but everything else about the show.. the shitty storylines, the shitty promos, the shitty direction, the shitty announcers, the shitty gimmicks, make it very hard for me to do so. That's not the same with the WWE, their entire product is at least watchable most of the time. I guess that makes me a more die hard TNA fan then you, as I watch the product even when it blows because I believed in them in the beginning and have faith they may just keep making something of themselves.

Thank you for confirming my post. You're one of those online fans that watch all wrestling you can, and to bitch about it. If you dont like something, dont' watch. That simple. Yet, you invest a lot of your time coming on the forums to bitch about a show you dont like. that doesn't make any sense. I don't watch WWE because it's a piece of shit that is not even close to the product Russo wrote. That explains why 4 million viewers stopped watching since the time he left.

People don't generally watch shows they don't like, and that's the fishin line becuase marty2hotty said so.
 
TNA is making money now. ECW didn't survive.

Its a FACT that ECW's demise had absolutely nothing to do with their product or ratings, as their product was good and their ratings were equal and better then TNA's right now. Their demise had to do with Heyman's mismanagement and TNN screwing them over. And its yet to be proven whether TNA keeps surviving from here, let's hope they do. The business needs more options then the WWE for the sake of business.


Thank you for confirming my post. You're one of those online fans that watch all wrestling you can, and to bitch about it. If you dont like something, dont' watch. That simple. Yet, you invest a lot of your time coming on the forums to bitch about a show you dont like. that doesn't make any sense. I don't watch WWE because it's a piece of shit that is not even close to the product Russo wrote. That explains why 4 million viewers stopped watching since the time he left.

People don't generally watch shows they don't like, and that's the fishin line becuase marty2hotty said so.

I give praise where its due and I give criticism where its due, I point out the positives and the negatives in both WWE and in TNA, its called having an opinion and voicing it and that's what these boards are for. Its simply that TNA has far more negatives for me to point out, once they fix those negatives I won't have anything but praise to give them.
 
ECW didn't succeed because they sucked. Heyman can't run a company and although he did pretty good for himself and made a few online fans have a hard on.. his shows didn't amount to anything from a mainstream perspective, and if i was a betting man, it wouldn't have ever..

i recently rewatched this week's impact (as this thread is about that) and i wrote the following:

"i am rewatching the show. I try to rewatch shows i like twice. Damn, it's another week. WRestling has it hard. 52 weeks a year - 2 hours a week. And us wrestling fans online are just extremely ferocious and negative.. i dont think any other show does this.. except daytime soap operas - who do 5 hours a week 52 weeks a year....

Anyways. I liked booker's first segment. The first match wasn't that boring, but I fast forwarded to the end where 3D/Devine interfered. They pull Earl out after the 2 count and Beer Money eventually wins to get a title shot with LAX.

Super Eric was funny "My feet don't fail me now" - "retrieve the ring, save the love" - for you heroes fans... Very good stuff

Rock/Rave segment was hilarious... pretape with Lance Rock... Hemme saying they live the rock and roll lifestyle. Very entertaining. They need some segments "outside the ring" IMO..

The match with them and devine vs machismo and curry/shark was fast paced and entertaining. Lots of nice moves.. and I watched the whole thing. Machismo wins and got a nice pop when he was tagged in. Val lost the ring...

Joe enters arena... REcap of booker, nash, joe, sting.. Booker talks - fast forward... Booker ends up nailing Joe with bat from ceiling after Boker tried to leave ans Nash blocked the exit. Joe got a good beatdown of Joe.. interesting...

Cut back and AJ is in the ring... he talks about sting, etc, i kinda fast forwarded this (second time viewing) and Angle comes in and does three angle slams. Here's the thing, my brother and i compared teh "flow" of WWE Raw/SD vs Impact.. The shows are very slow for WWE. SOmething like that, WWE would do 2-3 minute replays and stay in the ring for another minute before cutting away

TNA: After the third angleslam, they ddi some really fast replay edits, one angle slam, two angleslam, three angleslams.. quick showing of AJ on the floor and CUT TO THE BACK. Very fast and much more exciting. WWE is just slow and lam.e THey'd spend too much time on replays for segments that aren't even close to being remotely exciting

I just wanted to take a break after watching Angelina/Velvet / Curry Man/Shark boy segment.

This was fantastic... "what are you doing in our locker rooms you pervs"

Shark Boy: Angelina, you ignorant $lut. (LOL)

Ending: SHark Boy: you better not be lying, or i'll stomp a fishing hole in both your blonde bimbo asses...

Curry Man: we want the ring, etc... and (points to angelina), maybe you and me - action action action

Angelina: The only action you'll be getting is with yourself

curry/shark leaves...

Curry COMES BACK (hilarious): do you want to know how dewicious i am??

--- i was cracking up after a second viewing of this... man, that is hilarious. I think if you put WWE's funniest comedy segments, combine the past 3 years of the best together, and you cant even beat one segment like that

WWE just doesn't do these types of segments..

- - oh and the shiek abdul bashir spot was excellent...."

EDIT: I'm a geek for stoppping the show to post this. Cut to commercial break after Angliena/Velvet say "is SHE ready?" JB says: who's SHE

Come back and Petey - absolutely hilarious
lauren asks how he prepares for matches against creed. he says he wakes up goes to the gym, do 10000 torso, ? lifts weights, etc.. then eats breakfast, no big deal - funny

= Creed probably thinks he's batman or osmething. do you know who the greatest villain is? arnold as mr freeze.. "i'm gonna kick your ice.. ya? ya? i'm gonna kick your ice"..

too funny.

This is an example of guys who never had a chance to cut entertaining promos ever to get a chance to showcase their talent with the rigth direction/writer. Petey, Roode, Daniels are synonymously known for cutting the most boring promos of all time, IMO, haha... back in the asylum and early spike days, they never cut any good promos. and if they did cut promos, it'd be the same boring shit we heard before...

Daniels proves he can entertain, so can petey (evidenced here).. AJ styles was a nice pleasant surprise back early this year too... kudos to all of them

I think alex shelley hasn't really shown he was funny, even with nash.. nash was the guy carrying the scenes, but maybe mmg still has future segments that will have them steal the show, we'll see

Kaz is good too.. but yeah, kudos to Eric Young, Shark Boy, Curry Man, Petey WIlliams this week. Even Sonjay Dutt over the past month has been great. These are x-division stars getting some character!!!
 
My review for the 8/7/2008 IMPACT:

I was close to giving the show a thumbs down. There was a LOT of wrestling for the first hour. Very little comedy throughout the show. I think this show was a "go-home" show for the online fans. I think the only two matches I watched in full was Kong vs Salinas and the main event. Tomko ended up jobbing to Joe cleanly, and Nash was nowhere to be seen.

- I really enjoyed the simultaneous introductions with the "Filthee" music. Every two minutes, TWO at a time would come out simulatenously. That was different. They had weapons. Kurt ANgle got cut and lost a LOT of blood.. yikes.. It was cool that AJ and Kurt started, Morgan and Tomko fought, BG and Kip fought, and Joe/Booker.. all super feuds... I couldnt fast forward a minute there.

- Karen's Angle with Frank Trigg was short and well done.

- Prince justice of brotherhood didn't do too much, but Eric was funny. Most of the pretapes had strong dialogue and were produced well. AJ's was well done. 3d saying sleeping with Lauren is boring was entertaining. Beautiful People did a great promo w/ Kong

- Good Bashir package

- Lack of backstage supersegments. JB drank champagne with Booker T. Joe cut a promo.. and TNA put him over for the online fans again, lol

- Sonjay's promo was good. He kicked Curry Man in the nuts.. Shark Boy then attacked him and Eric took him out.

- Lethal/Creed vs MMG was long and pretty boring. Creed wins. Shelley doesn't want to shake Creed's hand.

- First match with Jacqueline vs Roxxi in weapons match, i wasn't interested in that too much. Traci was ref.

- Total Nonstop Action: Kong squashes Salinas. Angelina makes her beat Salinas up more, tells Velvet to grab a chair. Gails' music plays, she hits. ODB/Taylor Wilde helps out. TNA has done a tremendous job in establishing the heels and faces in the women's division. This was really good. Kong was about to beat up Wilde until ABYSS' theme hits.

- Abyss stares down Raeesha until Raeesha slaps him. He grabs the chair and ONE security guard comes out. My brother laughed out loud because he's like "there's rarely one.. there's usually a hoard of security guards". Blackhole slam on the single security guard. Abyss' role is semi interesting... Good series of action here.

- Beer Money and 3D vs Lax/Christian/Rhino. I was kinda bored and restless here. Christian/Rhino pretape was okay. Someone should diss Rhino with "You are a BORE BORE BORRRRRE". Homicide was put through the glass table by the end of things. Team 3D beat up the team after homicide gets the pin.

- Lots of Hard Justice hype. They do it twice during the show - showcasing the awesome graphics. I think with all the "whining" online of the buyrates, Ru$so is trying to prove the fans wrong by doing a strong buyrate. Really lots of hype for the PPV and every single match has a story behind it.

- I really liked the introductions of the main event - simultaneous and not with their entrance themes.

- THe intro of the show had JB in the crowd, as well as Lauren/BG in the crowd. There were a number of people left out of the show and there was lack of comedy. This was a more serious-wrestling-oriented show to hype the PPV... I liked the main event with every two guys having the feud come out together.. I like that MOrgan and Creed were both on teh show as these guys are usually off all the time. It was good to see kip/BG there although i want them doing something actually significant.

- I haven't read any online comments yet, but I assume that the fans online (whether thye'd admit or not, lol) would love a show like this....Their lover Joe won the main event..

- Sting ACTUALLY shows up during the show up in the rafters. He certainly earned his $10k this week. They end with a nice FILTHEE package hyping all the matches for the "most hard core PPV of the year for TNA" Hard Justice.

Although I fast forwarded most of teh matches, there was enough action to keep me into it. I don't want to say "the streak is over" although I didn't mark out to a lot of the show. However, I'll say there was enough intrigue to hold me.. so I guess this "barely" gets a THumbs uP. I'd prefer much more entertainment and hopefully things will re-surface after the PPV...
 
So what your saying is you prefer wrestling to be full of Super Eric, Shark Boy and Curryman segments of them running around looking for a ring? You would prefer to see Kurt Angle on a tanning bed running around in a thong looking for his clothes? And you would prefer to see AJ Styles on a date with Karen Angle at some hick place? Well if thats what you wanna see each week then I dont know how you can class yourself as a wrestling fan, when all you do is fast forward through all the matches. TNA has the best matches because they dont get their movesets limited like they do in WWE, but yet you fastforward through all of it. Dont get me wrong theirs always room for comedy in wrestling, WWE does it well with Santino cause Santino is hilarious, but when TNA over use the comedy it just gets annoying, and makes the product childish.
 
He apparently likes the entertainment aspect of the business and who could blame him. I enjoy that aspect as well.

I have kinda become desensitized to the wrestling in TNA. It isn't bad by far but what ever happened to the storytelling. Wrestling is about "combat" so wheres the strategy and in-ring psychology. TNA Matchhes many times see no selling of moves, too many kickouts of finishers and not enough strategy, it gets repetitive. It reminds me of an ROH Match.

I am not saying TNA should be as slow and plodding as WWE but you can easily tell a different between the wrestling product of TNA 2008 and TNA 2005.
 
So what your saying is you prefer wrestling to be full of Super Eric, Shark Boy and Curryman segments of them running around looking for a ring? You would prefer to see Kurt Angle on a tanning bed running around in a thong looking for his clothes? And you would prefer to see AJ Styles on a date with Karen Angle at some hick place? Well if thats what you wanna see each week then I dont know how you can class yourself as a wrestling fan, when all you do is fast forward through all the matches. TNA has the best matches because they dont get their movesets limited like they do in WWE, but yet you fastforward through all of it. Dont get me wrong theirs always room for comedy in wrestling, WWE does it well with Santino cause Santino is hilarious, but when TNA over use the comedy it just gets annoying, and makes the product childish.


I agree with this post entirely. Seeing Marty2Hotty say that there was too much wrestling and not enough of the other stuff TNA has been doing poorly (in my mind) lately really puts things into perspective for me and now I totally realize why Marty2Hotty loves TNA so much and loves Russo. But it's a WRESTLING show, complaining that there's too much wrestling baffles the hell out of me. It's also TOTAL NON STOP ACTION!


Here's my Review of the Augst 7th Impact:

The opening video was good but I have to admit that the second they cut into the show with West/Tenay and then JB in the crowd I actually lost all interest in the show and turned it. What a bad way to open up the show and draw people in to watch, there is something really "annoying" to me (and I don't even know specifically what it is) about all of TNA's announcing from West/Tenay to JB to the point I don't even want to listen to them. Get right to the action, or an interesting segment, that's my advice to open the show with.

I turned back to watch the first match: Roxxi def. Jacqueline. This was a good match I thought, starting this whole "hardcore" night off. The match itself was nothing special, but it was nice to see Jacqueline actually do what she does best and wrestle instead of being nothing but James Storm's valet. This was a good opening match, although I really think the TNA fans in the crowd can take away from a match much more then they add to it by the constant back and forth chants for both participants, it ruins all disbelief in the whole face/heel concept and is so obviously the fans trying to get themselves over in the match rather then helping the match get over.

Lauren interviewed Christian Cage and Rhino backstage. I never mind watching a Christian Cage promo, but why is he calling himself the Champ? Cena anyone? I'd really like to see Christian elevated back into the main event, I'd rather watch him wrestle/cut promos/entertain then Booker T or Kurt Angle any day. I enjoy Rhino but I really think he should be portrayed as a man of very few words, it would hide his negatives better and it would push his gimmick better in my mind.. he really needs to stop saying his catch phrases at the end of every promo he does. It never comes out naturally and always just sounds forced, no flow to it.


JB interviewed SoCal Val backstage.
This was a horrible segment, made more horrible by Super Eric appearing. Who (aside from Marty2Hotty) likes this crap? I walked away shaking my head, wondering how the Hurricane gimmick in the WWE somehow seems "good" compared to Super Eric. That's saying something.


Sonjay Dutt defeated Curry Man.
During this match I found myself wondering how a top tier talent like Christopher Daniels who was dominant in the X Division suddenly lost something in the ring where he now has a tough time competing with Dutt and actually loses to Dutt. Then I reminded myself to suspend disbelief. The match was rather short, but it was good for what it was, up until the ending which saw Dutt win with his legs on the rope RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REFEREE. There was no possible way the referee didn't see it; come on people. I actually laughed when Val came down and the camera was panning back and forth to her shouting and giving sign language to a guy wrestling in the ring who wasn't even paying attention to her, and West/Tenay are telling us everything she's saying word for word. That part of the match made me groan. Even worse was the aftermath when the Super Heroes came down to prove Dutt had stolen the ring and I turned it off long before Val somehow "forgave" Dutt. There is no way that stuff is written for adults of any age, no wonder they're not drawing in the 18-35 demographic, it leaves me wondering what TNA is thinking.

Does the crowd actually dance to Curry Man's entrance and love it as much as Tenay/West imply?

I turned back to see the end of Daivari's (whatever the Sheik his name is) promo. He said some valid things about America.

Black Machismo and Consequences Creed defeated Motor City Machine Guns. This match really didn't do anything to develop or bring interest in either Jay Lethal or Creed's matches at the PPV so I'm not sure what the purpose was here, but the match itself was good as always. I won't say great though, and I'm really starting to wonder why MCMG are viewed as such a great tag team by internet fans, etc.. they're a tag team of flashy moves and crazy double teams sure, but they really have no depth or content to their matches its just move after move, doesn't feel like there's meaning or reason behind what they're doing and they certainly don't have the pschology of tag team wrestling down like the great tag teams of the past. The ending saw Creed pin Shelley with a roll up which felt really anti climatic. After the match Shelley shoved Creed so maybe they're planning to turn MCMG heel, I really don't know, but if it leads to a feud with the tag team champions and maybe a title run for MCMG I'm up for that. Lethal was somewhat an after thought in this, and so was his match with Dutt at the PPV.

Karen Angle had Frank Trigg as her guest. I turned this off because it was such a boring segment and both are really bad actors, I really couldn't sit through it.

Lauren interviewed Velvet Sky, Angelina Love, and Awesome Kong backstage. I've heard people praise the Beautiful People for their promos, I really don't see why. This promo was incredibly cheesy, and Angelina Love sounds pretty bad on the mic. No love here.

LAX, Christian Cage, and Rhino defeated Team 3D and Beer Money in a no DQ I really don't understand putting people who are competing against each other at the PPV in gimmick matches against one another on free tv, 3 days before the PPV, in a gimmick match. Especially since in this type of match someone is far more likely to get hurt and then that has the risk of blowing a match or two at the PPV in 3 DAYS. As always no complaints about the wrestling, these are eight great talents who can go in the ring and deliver, especially when they're all put together. LAX gets the win here, Beer Money ends up putting Homicide through a glass table, I really wonder why there'd be a lot of incentive to buy the PPV to see these teams fight when we just got to see them in a brutal fight, with a big spot with the glass table, on free tv? I think the 6 man and 8 man tag matches are getting a bit overdone in TNA.


A TNA Rough Cut segment aired on Taylor Wilde. She's Canadian, I'm a fan.

Awesome Kong (with Raisha Saeed and The Beautiful People) defeated Salinas. I guess Salinas is the Knockout divisions jobber? She came out all excited and ready to go, considering her Crew had just been sent to the hospital and Homicide could've been seriously injured after that glass table. I guess she wasn't too concerned: It's little details like that that take away from the product. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have this match right after their promo and right before the match where LAX gets sent to the hospital? I'm really not sure why an Awesome Kong squash match was needed as it didn't do much to hype to the PPV and we already know the sheer dominance of Awesome Kong and didn't need to be reminded. After the match the Beautiful People grabbed a microphone and did ANOTHER cheesy promo and cheesy antics that really had them looking more like children (which writing-wise TNA seems intended for) then arrogant woman to hate.

I turned the show back on for the main event:

Samoa Joe pinned Tomko to win a weapons gauntlet match.
Once again I ask, why do people competing in gimmick matches on the PPV to settle their scores need to be booked 3 days before hand, on free television, in a gimmick match? It kind of defeats the purpose to me, even with this whole "hardcore" night which seemed random and non-sensical to me, too. I also said it in another thread, but why would this really give people incentive to buy a PPV.. when AJ Styles got to get in the ring and finally get his hands on Angle, got to bust him open and bloody him, and got to eliminate him from the match? What is the incentive to pay money to watch Styles fight Kurt now? And I felt in no way the intensity, anger, and thirst for vengeance that Styles implied in his promos over the past few weeks.. it seemed like he went in there and merely was wrestling a match like he would with anyone, not out to kill Angle or vice versa with Angle.

The ending was good with Sting looking down from the rafters at Joe, but its nothing new we haven't seen for years or in WCW.
 
So what your saying is you prefer wrestling to be full of Super Eric, Shark Boy and Curryman segments of them running around looking for a ring? You would prefer to see Kurt Angle on a tanning bed running around in a thong looking for his clothes? And you would prefer to see AJ Styles on a date with Karen Angle at some hick place? Well if thats what you wanna see each week then I dont know how you can class yourself as a wrestling fan, when all you do is fast forward through all the matches. TNA has the best matches because they dont get their movesets limited like they do in WWE, but yet you fastforward through all of it. Dont get me wrong theirs always room for comedy in wrestling, WWE does it well with Santino cause Santino is hilarious, but when TNA over use the comedy it just gets annoying, and makes the product childish.
I haven't seen santino but from what I HAVE seen - snippets, he sucks. I prefer entertainment. I want to laugh. I enjoyed a lot of the feuds this week, but not too much comedy to entertain me. Kurt in his thong IMO is on the top 15 greatest TNA shows they ever produced. It's one of my favs. That had a lot of good humour. AJ/Karen date was okay, but I enjoyed the AJ?Karen wedding, which was really entertaining.

I got home late last night and wanted to know teh finishes. they were long and just matches. I watched the aftermath and watchd the last two matches in full...

TNA's comedy is entertaining as hell. 2 hours programming a week is a lot. there are times if TNA deos really entertaining shows, I can't fast forward a second

I hate the "you're not a wrestling fan" argument.. that's ludicrous. YOu're saying that 7 million people watched wrestling back in the day solely for the wrestling/ NO they tuned in for everything else that captured their attention. Define a 'wrestling fan'.. i have to be solely a fan of the mat wrestling? gilberrttti can touch on this

mister rob is a fuckin hypocrite. he bashes a show yet watches EVERY single damn week. Your opinion doesn't count. I dontw atch WWE because i hate it.. bottom line!!

Meltzer/keller watch all the wrestling they can because they are geeks

eric doing his cape was funny. dutt won oldschool with the leg on the ropes. online fans can't complain because there wasn't any runins this specific week.. unsure why theyd di that as ppv is comingup, but it did hype and push all the stories

again, i think this show was catered more to the online fans.. by russo

mmg vs creed/lethal was pointless and boring imo.. the ending has some intrigue as shelley didn't want to shake creed's hands.. but nothing amounting much here EXCEPT creed's streak continues

karen/trigg was great.. you're a hypocrite because you're still watching TNA> I dont watch WWE because I think you ned to have a mental age of 8 for that

sting earned his 10k paycheque this week with his 3 second appearance

all in all i still barely squeak a thumbs up.. just for the action/drama.. but i do want more entertainment/comedy and good witty dialogue :P

i hope to see that on the week after HJ.. but they really hyped the ppv this week and i think RUsso wants to prove that not only he can raise the ratings, but he can pull in strong numbers for the PPV (you know, sorta like what he did for the WWF and guys like meltzer/keller refuse to give him any credit for.. those nerds)
 
mister rob is a fuckin hypocrite. he bashes a show yet watches EVERY single damn week. Your opinion doesn't count. I dontw atch WWE because i hate it.. bottom line!!

That doesn't make any sense. How am I a hypocrit, please explain that to me. If anyone's the hypocrit its you who bashes WWE and NEVER watches the product so has no idea what the shows even about or whether the shows good or bad which gives you no, honest or credible, justification to bash it. You bash it merely with your bias attitude. THAT's a hypocrit; learn the term. I hate repeating myself, I watch both WWE and TNA and so by watching TNA I have all the right in the world to give a true opinion on it because I've watched the show (or the parts of the show I give an opinion on).


Meltzer/keller watch all the wrestling they can because they are geeks.
Actually, I think its because they're wrestling fans.


Eric doing his cape was funny.
To you, to me it was a flashback to the Hurricane and wasn't funny. Neither opinion is right or wrong.

Dutt won oldschool with the leg on the ropes.
Yes he did, what's your point?


Again, i think this show was catered more to the online fans.. by russo
Why would they cater to a small demographic of people online, and most who don't even watch TNA, instead of putting out a product with every intention, in their mind, of drawing to a bigger audience? I don't buy it.


karen/trigg was great.. you're a hypocrite because you're still watching TNA> I dont watch WWE because I think you ned to have a mental age of 8 for that.

Are you 13? That doesn't make me a hypocrit. I watch the parts of TNA I find entertaining and enjoyable enough to watch and the other parts, like Karen/Trigg I don't watch. As I stated specifically in my last post that I turned it off and DIDN'T WATCH. Read please.


I stand by every opinion I've made, this weeks TNA had some good, solid wrestling and I for one am glad to see MORE wrestling and less cheesy, badly done segments. I give TNA credit for trying new things, for experimenting, but I wish their booking made a bit more sense to me as a viewer and I still don't see how this week's TNA did a good job of building hype and incentive for people to buy the PPV. I don't think it did, once again MY OPINION.
 
I dont take your opinion seriously because you spend a lot of time criticizing a show that you supposedly "don't like". You watch TNA every week - TNA already has you as a consistent follower of their show. If TNA toured your area, would you pay to watch?

TNA is concentrating on expanding their fanbase. WWE has lost me years ago... therefore, I don't watch a show I do not like as their show consistently disappoints me every time I do catch "snippets" of their show.

Now onto my 'second review' of the 'second' time re-watching the 8/7/2008 edition of impact:

NOW, before deleting, I re-watched thes hwo. The only stuff I re-watched are the following:

- Super Eric/So Cal 1 minute segment.
- Lauren talking a bit with BG (although her segment with Bubba was funny) - most were wrestling promos talking about wrestling matches
- Rough Cut with Taylor Wilde
- Karen's Angle with Trigg - 2 minutes
- Simulatenous entrances only (not the actual matches - i dont care about TNA letting Joe win for the upteenth time). I watched all the simultaneous entrances with the "FILTHEE" music. Very different and cool that both came out at the same time.
- I watched the aftermath of Salinas/Kong - Angelina Love talks way too slow. I loved the Abyss stuff
- I re-watched the entire Shiek Abdul Bashir segment
- And finally, I watched the final Hard Justice music video by FILTHEE running down all the matches for the PPV
- I also kinda re-watched the PPV vs screen hype shots when Tenay/West were running down the Hard Justice card - really nice graphics
- I also watched the "previously on impact" 1 minute package they did in the beginning

- marty notes; Damn, the Lethal, Creed vs MMG match was pointless. I re-watched Shelley shoving Creed.
- I saw the replay of Homicide getting hit through the glass table during Salinas' entrance - she's hot.
- Beer money's matches are boring, same with 3D. SO I fast forwarded that entire match they had with Rhino and Christian.

That's my "re-watch" of the show. Highly irregular than a Ru$so-type show where I'd be forced to re-watch most of the show: matches, pretapes, segments. THere weren't any in-ring segments.. and although the serious promos from all the wrestlers were strong, they were pretty predictable... I did catch a bit of Shark Boy beating up Sonjay


--- Hmm.. turns out that quite a lot still happened on the show - re-reading my recap. ALthough some of the matches just went way too long, I think TNA did a good job of following up all the stories. I did catch the last 10 seconds with Sting looking down from the rafters

I'm not going to reverse my decision. Even though theere was a lot of wrestling, based on everything I said above, I'm still giving the show a thumbs up.
 
I dont take your opinion seriously because you spend a lot of time criticizing a show that you supposedly "don't like". You watch TNA every week - TNA already has you as a consistent follower of their show. If TNA toured your area, would you pay to watch?

No, I definitely wouldn't pay to watch them. I would never spend any money for a product like TNA's, as it is right now, as I'd be wasting my money and I don't like to waste my money. Hence why I don't buy TNA PPV's, whether the wrestling's good or not, if they can't offer me an interesting product and interesting build to matches I want to pay to see, I'm certainly not going to pay for a PPV merely with the "faith" that some of the matches may be well wrestled. I can watch those matches after the fact, for free, if I feel the need to.

I fast forwarded over your entire re-watched review as it didn't interest me at all.

I'm curious what some other people thought of the Impact show this week, though, as it seems Marty2Hotty is the only one who ever posts about the show and he's entirely biased so I'm curious what other people thought. Is there anyone else who actually watches TNA and has an opinion?
 
I'm not biased at all. I can't take your opinions seriously because I"m on here postig about a show I often enjoy watching, while you're posting negatively on here about a show you supposedly "don't like".

Again, I dont like the office US, i dont watch it, i'm not going to go to the office forums or a forum taht talks about the show to discuss about me watching it and hating it. If you dont like it, odn't watch. I have done that for the WWE.. you should do the same about TNA because your opinion is invalid here if you're continuing to watch a show you don't like

Eitehr you're lying or you're an idiot for continuing to watch a show you dont like

ARe you honestly going to use that "i'm a wrestling fan" statement to justify watching a show you dont like. I love wrestling i have been watching for years.. WWE is not making me watch their show because it sucks so I stop

You say you wont watch TNA if it came to your town... however, you sure as hell spend a lot of time talking about the show after watching it.. Get the "F" out if you dont like the show that freakin simple. Nobody wants to hear a guy bitch about a show that he "doesn't" like. Yeah, right
 
I'm not biased at all. I can't take your opinions seriously because I"m on here postig about a show I often enjoy watching, while you're posting negatively on here about a show you supposedly "don't like".

Again, I dont like the office US, i dont watch it, i'm not going to go to the office forums or a forum taht talks about the show to discuss about me watching it and hating it. If you dont like it, odn't watch. I have done that for the WWE.. you should do the same about TNA because your opinion is invalid here if you're continuing to watch a show you don't like

Eitehr you're lying or you're an idiot for continuing to watch a show you dont like

ARe you honestly going to use that "i'm a wrestling fan" statement to justify watching a show you dont like. I love wrestling i have been watching for years.. WWE is not making me watch their show because it sucks so I stop

You say you wont watch TNA if it came to your town... however, you sure as hell spend a lot of time talking about the show after watching it.. Get the "F" out if you dont like the show that freakin simple. Nobody wants to hear a guy bitch about a show that he "doesn't" like. Yeah, right

You really need to learn how to read. More then that I think you somehow have a problem holding on to information and instead of reading what people say you keep repeating your opinion even when it contradicts what someone's said, time and time again. I have said time and time again that I don't HATE TNA, that I'm not anti-TNA as a whole, but that I hate the product they're putting out right now. I've enjoyed the product in the past, I'm sure (or at least I hope) I'll enjoy the product again in the future.. but right now the product is crap and I can criticize it and make those statements all I want. Just because you believe a TNA fan has to have nothing but priase, want to stick it up Russo's ass like you do, and be entirely biased towards the product, doesn't make your opinion valid in any way. I can think for myself, I can make judgments myself, and I can see both the POSITIVE and the NEGATIVE in a product. I've said time and time again that I watch the parts of Impact that I enjoy and that interest me and I DON'T watch the parts that are crappy and horrible, and lately there's been far more bad then good.

I enjoy having an INFORMED opinion so I try to watch TNA's show, and I enjoy voicing my INFORMED opinion. I will continue to do so, if you don't like it then don't READ it.

No one likes to hear a guy spew praise and love for a product that they know absolutely sucks, either.
 
My Review of iMPACT

-I thought the opening of the show was interesting but misplaced. For a Go-Home show I thought the attention should have been placed on Hard Justice rather than the Impact show. After watching Hard Justice I still wonder why they did the whole announcer in the crowd thing.

-I thought the Roxxi vs Jacqueline match was solid. Boy does Traci look hot! I really like Roxxi's finisher as well. Okay match.

-Christian's interview was good. His best line was about Team 3D being the best tag team in the world because he went singles. This was a good interview setting up their Hard Justice Match. Rhino is bland in my opinion. I would prefer him as the silent, but intimidating guy in the background.

-The Curry Man vs Sonjay Dutt match was an average TV Match. Many people complain about the use of Christopher Daniels (more recently Kaz) but the question should be asked: Would they get more attention from TNA Creative as Christopher Daniels/Kaz or Curry Man/Suicide or Evolution. The Sonjay Dutt/Black Machismo storyline shows one of my biggest gripes with Vince Russo (or so it seems) style of writing, good plan, poor execution. I think that if Russo had someone helping him and proofreading his angles who knew a thing or two about Traditional Booking and Writing 101, the storylines would have less plot holes and the booking would be more well liked.

-The faces in TNA are so gullible (Val, AJ, Samoa Joe). Very few of them have an edginess that makes fans want to like them.

-Why would James Storm call Team 3D the worlds greatest tag team when A) He was part of AMW, who constantly one-upped Team 3D and B) when he and Robert Roode are about to become World Tag Team Champions proving they are the best team in TNA, over Team 3D. Also did I hear Brother Ray say nobody wants to see standard wrestling matches?

-I am really into Sheik Abdul Bashir as his promos feel very real. I can't wait for his intro into the X Division.

-I am not into seeing an established tag team like the Motor City Machine Guns lose to a teamed up duo like Creed and Jay Lethal. Established teams should usually come out on top. I would like to see TNA improve the divisions that WWE sucks at like the Tag Team Division and X Division. TNA could differentiate itself from WWE if they did that. By the way the match lacked a sense of purpose.

-I think that the Machine Guns should remain faces until after they feud with Beer Money over the tag titles since LAX is seemingly out of the title hunt.

-The 8-Man No DQ match took away from the Hardcore Themed PPV three days later and probably took away a few buys. Wouldn't a normal 8-Man Tag Match sufficed. Now Marty, don't say anything about gimmick matches selling because you don't even sit through them unless you have to.

-The glass table angle should have remained a rare but momentous sight. Now it has been used twice in like a month. Less is more TNA.

-I love the Rough Cut segments. Reality TV in my opinion is what fans want to see. UFC is popular, so is Spin Cycle. Fans like feeling that what they are watching could really happen. I would like TNA to move towards a more reality TV style product, which they have been doing by making the product more serious.

-The Awesome Kong squash of Salinas was very effective in setting up the Knockouts PPV Match. I would have prefered an 8-Knockout Tag Match though.

-Booker T is golden on the mic and his character is intriguing to me.

-Samoa Joe was good tonight because he wasn't screaming. I think Joe should turn into the lone wolf style wrestler because as a kick ass, kill faces and heels he could get the fans following.

-The Sting angle may be so much better if the announcers didn't directly point to it being Sting who is responsible for the attacks when in reality it only directs the fans in the opposite direction when in fact you want the fans to determine what will happen for themselves.

-The main event was there. I hate Kip James and think BG should move to a reporter/road agent role. I have become pretty de-sensitized to many things in TNA including finishers/hardcore/gimmick matches and the overall wrestling style so it should come as no surprise that I didn't like the Gauntlet Weapons match. The match itself had quality wrestling and seeing Kurt Angle wear a crimson sieve was interesting leading to the match at Hard Justice. I did like the dual entrances as it was different. I am a fan of Matt Morgan and think he could easily fill the role Tomko could have.

-I think it is time to introduce a few different TNA Homegrown Talents into the main event scene (which could be happening with the return of Jeff Jarrett).

-The show entertained me for two hours. I don't like everything they do. When I am not analysing it, it turns out better but when I have to think about every angle and how things "should" be, then it isnt as good.

I hope this was unbiased. I am not as much as a Russo-lover as Marty but not as much as a Russo-Hater as MisterRob.
 
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