[Official] TNA TV Shows Aftermath, Review & Ratings Thread

[Marty2Hotty]

No one likes to hear a guy spew praise and love for a product that they know absolutely sucks, either.

I dont think it sucks. I didn't praise last week's show as much as the week before. There was too much wrestling in my eyes. I do see your point though. I have followed TNA since the beginning through thick and thin, through the atrociuos dusty rhodes era, the first brutal year of spike tv where jarrett would hog the spotlight, and i complained a bit too because i wanted them to succeed instead of doing .7s. When they brought Russo back, I knew things would get better if they let him write.

I just hate reading your opinion often because it sounds like most people in the IWC> It's like you dont have an opinion of your own contrary to what you think. I have criticzed TNA throughtou this year, i think from april-esque to june...

YTou have a good point about not reading your opinions if i hate it. i think i may do that from now on.. because i dont think your opinion is valid either.. because IMO, you criticize TNA for the wrong reasons.. i dont remember the bullshit you wrote in the previous pages, and quite frankly i dont want to remember. I know it's a lot of bullshit saying that WWE is a great product right now, etc.. when obviousy Russo's product he did is still talked about today and regarded as the best progreamming that they have ever done on cablle

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[gg inferno]

I dont think it sucks. I didn't praise last week's show as much as the week before. There was too much wrestling in my eyes. I do see your point though. I have followed TNA since the beginning through thick and thin, through the atrociuos dusty rhodes era, the first brutal year of spike tv where jarrett would hog the spotlight, and i complained a bit too because i wanted them to succeed instead of doing .7s. When they brought Russo back, I knew things would get better if they let him write.

I just hate reading your opinion often because it sounds like most people in the IWC> It's like you dont have an opinion of your own contrary to what you think. I have criticzed TNA throughtou this year, i think from april-esque to june...

YTou have a good point about not reading your opinions if i hate it. i think i may do that from now on.. because i dont think your opinion is valid either.. because IMO, you criticize TNA for the wrong reasons.. i dont remember the bullshit you wrote in the previous pages, and quite frankly i dont want to remember. I know it's a lot of bullshit saying that WWE is a great product right now, etc.. when obviousy Russo's product he did is still talked about today and regarded as the best progreamming that they have ever done on cablle--

it's amazing how people can be so opinionated about a show they don't like. i don't watch shows that i don't like. i couldn't comprehend watching a show like "Major Dad" every week and then spending even more time out of my life on message boards discussing how bad i think it sucks. if you think the show sucks then don't watch it, like every other NORMAL human being would do.

 

[Talon_DR]

Because "smarks" as they call themselved don't understand that being individually heard is as impactful as being heard as a group.

The way to do things is to stop watching the product that you don't like. If others think the same way than maybe the rating will go down. The rating goes down low enough, Spike TV and TNA start to notice and hopefully make changes. Start watching again when you are interested by the product. Otherwise bite the bullet!

 

[MisterRob]

People really seem unable to read. For me, personally, I DON'T watch TNA Impact and I've stated that many times. I've TRIED to watch it the last few weeks, before that I can't even remember the last time I watched TNA Impact. So obviously if you don't like the show you don't watch it. Hence why, the last few weeks I've watched specific matches and things that have interested me and everything else I've turned off, as I've repeated several times. But wrestling isn't a normal show on television like some sitcom or drama. If you don't like the writing of a specific show you don't watch it. With wrestling its not as clear cut, there's no one storyline or one direction for the entire show.. there's many storylines, there's entertainment and there's the wrestling aspect, and you don't have to like ALL of those aspects to like SOME of them. I'm a fan of many of TNA's talent, there's wrestlers I enjoy watching, and TNA is the only place I have the chance to watch these talents so why should I NOT be able to watch them just because the show's writing is bad, and the storylines are poor? Why should I have to go without seeing talent I'd like to watch because the rest of the shows no good? I watch the matches and the wrestlers I enjoy that are in those matches, I don't watch the crappy segments. I don't think you can find very many people who HATE the product through and through who would sit down and watch the entire show, because yes that's makes no sense. But as Russo loves to try to say about wrestling, things aren't black and white they're shades of gray.

I watch WWE's shows, does that mean I like EVERYTHING on the show and don't have criticism about anything? Of course not. But the good outweighs the bad in my opinion with all of the 3 shows. After not having watched TNA Impact for a while I've been giving them the same chance again, but the product has been failing miserably for my tastes, aside from the wrestling aspect. So why should I not watch the aspects I do enjoy because of some silly opinion that you have to either love a show or hate a show to watch it? That's why I have a remote. That's the benefit of television. I can watch parts of a show and turn the other parts, and it costs me nothing but my usual cable bill.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

First, TNA did great demos this week (to satisfy the online critiques):

"TNA delivered its highest P18-49 rating since expanding to two hours (10/4/07), its highest M18-49 rating in 7 months (since 1/17/08) and its highest M18-34 rating in 4 months (since 4/3/08).


TNA Impact scored a 1.0 cable rating, a 0.96 in M18-49, a 0.70 in P18-49, a 0.80 in M18-34, a 0.98 in M12-17, a 1.14 in M25-34, a 1.13 in M35-49, a 0.86 in M50+ and had an average audience of 1.5 million viewers.


The go home show did quarter hours of 1.03, 0.99, 0.94, 0.87, 0.89, 1.01, 0.93, and 1.07"

1.5 mil is shy of last week's 1.6 mil but the demos were up and eveything looked really great for TNA ratings wise.

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Originally Posted by Marty2Hotty
I dont think it sucks. I didn't praise last week's show as much as the week before. There was too much wrestling in my eyes. I do see your point though. I have followed TNA since the beginning through thick and thin, through the atrociuos dusty rhodes era, the first brutal year of spike tv where jarrett would hog the spotlight, and i complained a bit too because i wanted them to succeed instead of doing .7s. When they brought Russo back, I knew things would get better if they let him write.

I just hate reading your opinion often because it sounds like most people in the IWC> It's like you dont have an opinion of your own contrary to what you think. I have criticzed TNA throughtou this year, i think from april-esque to june...

YTou have a good point about not reading your opinions if i hate it. i think i may do that from now on.. because i dont think your opinion is valid either.. because IMO, you criticize TNA for the wrong reasons.. i dont remember the bullshit you wrote in the previous pages, and quite frankly i dont want to remember. I know it's a lot of bullshit saying that WWE is a great product right now, etc.. when obviousy Russo's product he did is still talked about today and regarded as the best progreamming that they have ever done on cablle--

it's amazing how people can be so opinionated about a show they don't like. i don't watch shows that i don't like. i couldn't comprehend watching a show like "Major Dad" every week and then spending even more time out of my life on message boards discussing how bad i think it sucks. if you think the show sucks then don't watch it, like every other NORMAL human being would do.

glenn, you still follow wwe. but i guess you do so to check out the competition

The way to do things is to stop watching the product that you don't like. If others think the same way than maybe the rating will go down. The rating goes down low enough, Spike TV and TNA start to notice and hopefully make changes. Start watching again when you are interested by the product. Otherwise bite the bullet!

The online fans don't make a difference in the overall rating because they watch every show. and it is such a small percentage of the national audience.

MisteRob.. that is BS that you dont watch TNA. You watch enough to critique the show and you spend so much time in the TNA section of this forums to give your "negative" reviews.. it befuddles me. Dont watch a show you dont like. That's why I dont watch the US version of the office or Lost. i dont like them

So you choose to watch the show to see the talents. You like the show.

I may like some talent on many shows, but if the shows suck, I"m not gonna watch. This applies to WWE and any other show.

You are an IWF that watches all wrestling you can get your hands on. I dont think the good outweighs the bad in WWE which is why I dont watch any of the shows in full. SOmetimes, my brother leaves it on and i tune into a segment or two before getting pissed off and leaving.

The reason you're getting some heat (at least from me) is you continue to bitch about the product and continue to watch it every week and post on the forums. You must either be a prick/idiot to bitch about a show you dont like and continue to watch, or you just watch a wrestling show to bitch about it

If you dont like something dont watch. It's that simple. This applies to the same reason as to why I dont watch WWE and DO NOT talk about it in the WWE section

 

[anonymous]

After reading the argument/debate between MisterRob and Marty2Hotty, it is obvious that it is absolutely futile for you two to argue with each other. Marty likes the entertainment/sports entertainment aspect of wrestling, and MisterRob wants a product unique and different from WWE with compelling storylines, great characters, and great matches. Both of you have their points and opinions.
Marty, Russo in my opinions is good for making the first chapter whether it be making characters or a storyline. He turned a bunch of X Division wrestlers with no gimmick or persona (vanilla) and gave them a character and utilized them. In the eyes of some fans, some of the characters work and some don't, the same with the storylines. What will you think of Russo if the show doesn't reach a 1.5 rating in the time that you said though? I mean, will you still think that his writing is successful for wrestling? Of course, we will see. You like the product and so do a million other fans, so more power to you.
MisterRob, your negativity towards the product, while justified, is obviously bringing heat on you for a reason. The problem is is that you sound like those critics that do nothing but bash and overanalyze the product. However, you and these critics are not wrong about your criticisms either, they are simply redundant and become tiresome. I mean, seriously, how many times have we heard that Samoa Joe isn't being booked well, or this guy needs to be pushed, etc? Let me reiterate that you are not wrong about anything that you critique, personally, I agree with most of what you have to say. I do have to ask though, what do you or other fans mean by a "compelling" storyline? What do vague terms like 'well' mean as in Samoa Joe isn't being booked 'well' or his feud with Booker T isn't "compelling" enough. What isn't "compelling" about the current main event storyline? I personally feel that this type of vagueness and offering these problems without offering any type of real solution brings this heat to people that are negative on the product. For example, critics will say that Samoa Joe needs to be booked better. Well, there is the problem, but where is the solution?
Certain things are undeniable about TNA. Despite what anyone thinks of Russo and the current creative team, this team has reached the highest rating that TNA has ever gotten (1.2). TNA obviously isn't going anywhere, and from what I hear, is doing fine financially. Judging from the ratings and most fans' opinions, the Knockouts Division is the best thing that TNA has going for them right now. TNA has allowed wrestlers such as Samoa Joe and AJ Styles to be in the national spotlight, and even made Joe champion. The X Division is not nearly as strong as it once was. TNA Impact has a consistent fanbase of 1.0 to 1.2 million viewers a week. However, TNA Impact cannot seem to get past a 1.2 rating. Everyone fan and critic have their own hypothesis and theory as to how TNA can grow in ratings, but nothing has really been proven. Who is truly to say that the masses enjoy or don't enjoy the sports entertainment aspect of TNA like Marty2Hotty, or a totally different product altogether like MisterRob?

 

[Marty2Hotty]

"anonymous", the thing that makes MisterRob look kinda stupid is he consistently comes on these forums bitching about TNA - continuing to watch a show he supposedly doesn't like and finally confessing that "i watch all wrestling". Yeah, you watch TNA just to bitch about it - it seems like

He reminds me of the people online who probably watched the atittude era and whined about everything yet continue to watch it. Same with Russo's WCW shows - the critics online can whine all they have wanted about Russo but he took WWF to unbeaten heights

Marty, Russo in my opinions is good for making the first chapter whether it be making characters or a storyline. He turned a bunch of X Division wrestlers with no gimmick or persona (vanilla) and gave them a character and utilized them. In the eyes of some fans, some of the characters work and some don't, the same with the storylines. What will you think of Russo if the show doesn't reach a 1.5 rating in the time that you said though?

First, I agree with you that he has completely given X-Division people who once had no peronsality whatsoever and gave them a lot of character - and i'm a huge fan of most of them.

I just want to get one thing across. The 1.5 number I gave out is because I have confidence in his writing and really want him to get a long term booking run. He has never had one really long run since the WWF - and in his WWF run he took the WWF from 1.9 to 6.9 in 2 1/2 years - that is no WAY a fluke. The shows had direction and characterizations and storylines that kept the fans interested on a weekly basis. I hate it when people come on here and say he was filtered, because if you watch all the controversial storylines that got through, he was anything but filtered. McMahon may have rejected a few ideas or two, but he was for the most part WITH Russo and his vision for what WWF needed to move in.

Me saying TNA can reach 1.5 with Russo writing in the long term is my confidence in his writing and I want to prove my point that given a long term booking, he can entertain the masses, give me a damn entertaining show every week, and draw a new audience. 1.5 is something TNA has NEVER done and that is a nubmer I threw out just to shut the critics up if he does get the chance..

Now, in the past 5-6 weeks, TNA got 1.6 million viewers last week - the highest viewed TNA show in 5 months. This week - they got the highest demos in 4 months and highest in 18-49 ever since going 2 hours. So the past two weeks, the shows have done very well as opposed to the "direction" they were doing from February to June - which IMO did have "some" Russo but for the most part didn't.

I mean, will you still think that his writing is successful for wrestling? Of course, we will see. You like the product and so do a million other fans, so more power to you.

Yes, I will think his writing is successful. It's already successful. The thing is the 1.5 number is if he is writing the entire way. The second the shows just suddenly move into a direction that is obviously not him, the run is over and the "friendly bet" is off... TNA is not known to let one direction stick - except Dusty Rhodes in late 2004-2005 which sucked ass. and Dutch Mantell. Just let Vince work his magic: Dusty, Mantell, D'amore - none of them are capable of writing a compelling show that the masses want to see IMO

mean, seriously, how many times have we heard that Samoa Joe isn't being booked well, or this guy needs to be pushed, etc?

He's the damn champ, and TNA lets him win guantlets and demolish his opponents. How much more does the IWC want? I personlly think Joe can benefit from having some humour. Most successful wrestlers have some personality, some humour. I know he's just some serious fat guy that wrestles, but I'd probably like him a little more if he had a little more humour and more of a personality i could relate to.. but that's just me and I would understand if TNA thinks differently

Despite what anyone thinks of Russo and the current creative team, this team has reached the highest rating that TNA has ever gotten (1.2). TNA obviously isn't going anywhere, and from what I hear, is doing fine financially.

The shows did three straight 1.2s in January and they are making money now I have heard reports from meltzer

I dont think the masses would like to see something they have already seen before. Remember, Russo was brought back in late 2006 because the stories, characters, dialogue was so atrocious in August 2006 that the ratings dipped to .7

With Russo on board, they have reached 1.2, 1.7 mil viewers and I won't credit Russo for them making money as much as his contributions to the WWF attitude era (which were obviously huge) as he didn't write TNA consecutively, but I do think he has helped TNA's product as a whole and has helped them become profitable with his scripting of the shows and keeping the fans interested (for the most part)

 

[Marty2Hotty]

I'm poisting again as the preview for this week's impact 8/14/2008 is up:

PREVIEW FOR THURSDAY'S "iMPACT!" ON SPIKE AT 9PM ET: THE AFTERMATH OF HARD JUSTICE
By Bill Banks

This Thursday night, TNA Wrestling returns to Spike at 9pm ET with two hours of Total Nonstop Action, featuring the aftermath from Sunday's "Hard Justice" Pay-Per-View event!

The following is scheduled for the huge broadcast:

- There are two BIG questions coming out of "Hard Justice" - how did TNA World Heavyweight Champion Samoa Joe get ahold the familiar guitar he used to beat Booker T...and why did Sting attack "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles? Will both questions be answered this Thursday night on Spike? Tune in and find out!

- Speaking of Samoa Joe, he will team with "Big Sexy" Kevin Nash on "iMPACT!" to battle Team 3D (Brother Ray and Brother Devon) in one of the major bouts on the broadcast!

- Sources tell us that Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle will have a special challenge for "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles this Thursday night! After their epic battle at "Hard Justice', what does Angle have planned - and what is his condition after the war with AJ?

- "iMPACT!" will also feature an update on the condition of LAX's Homicide, who was badly injured at the hands of new TNA World Tag Team Champions Beer Money at Sunday's PPV. This Thursday night, Hernandez of LAX will take on Beer Money's "Cowboy" James Storm in singles action.

- In tag team action, it will be "The Instant Classic" Christian Cage and "The War Machine" Rhino taking on The Rock N' Rave Infection of Lance Rock and Jimmy Rave

- Also on the broadcast, TNA Knockout Women's Champion Taylor Wilde will battle Christy Hemme

- The latest installment of "Karen's Angle" will feature The Beautiful People - Angelina Love and Velvet Sky

- "The Blueprint" Matt Morgan will be in action

- Plus, "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal has been signed to take on TNA newcomer Sheik Abdul Bashir

All this and much more this Thursday night on Spike on the huge post-PPV "iMPACT!" broadcast!

This really sounds really good. Sting attacks AJ. Not sure he'll be there. But I like how TNA has made Sting look important with making him not beign on the show. Classic Sting hype - ala WCW

Booker T/ Jeff Jarrett lol. So many stars man

KAREN's ANGLE and Angelina Love/Velvet!! damn.. i wish Karen woul come out live again.

- Matt Morgan rules. Ru$so's pros.. he lets people wrestle every week, and won't just cut them off for months like TNA would normally do. I donbt know where Creed is but I'm assuming he'll make an appearance during Bashir's match. Great debut by Bashir... and I"m trigued about him

- I can't wait to see Kevin Nash wrestle. I dont give a damn what the net says about "workrate". Kevin Nash is just entertaining to watch - especially if the matches are booked well.

- I also can't believe Hemme is wrestling! Cool tos ee.. but I really hope if she loses, that it's done well.. i dont like seeing her just jobbing. I want more of a role for her. RnR are on the show too

- Looks like Angle/AJ continues. I'm not a huge fan of serious AJ, I still think he can have some goofy/humour while being a babyface, but that's just me, personally. He did a tremendous job as goofy heel

- Beer Money and Christian/Rhino are a little boring to me... but I hope they say or do something that gets me interested in them again. I liked beer money whipping people but their promos are usually boring, same with Christian/Rhino.

- Update on LAX

- No word on Prince justice of brotherhood.. other than that I'm intrigued at all the storylines and characters on the show, and good tos ee "Matt Morgan in action" - translation - squash!! whoo hoo

Can't wait. I think i'll omit the spoilers because I hope that this will be a Ru$so show.. please TNA just let him write for the long run... it's obvfiously a more exciting show

 

[Talon_DR]

Okay,

Without much confirmation on who writes what for TNA I will genericize it for you guys with "TNA Creative"

TNA Creative is far from perfect. They do create an intriguing product at times which I do enjoy but only at the expense of the booking.

I don't care what kind of wrestling promotion you are but it is wrestling that is the foundation of your company. Without wrestling you have a Soap Opera. There needs to be a substantial amount of wrestling for the traditional wrestling fans. The wrestling needs to be unpredictable and entertaining at all times or else you throw away fans.

TNA has a Pro Wrestling roster, not a Sports Entertainment Roster. They have a roster that can have great wrestling matches, grade A wrestling matches. In my opinion for TNA to be successful they need to accentuate the wrestling.

The main criticism I hear about TNA is the writing and booking. The writing at times has wholes in the logic while the booking takes away from the wrestling.

Writing example: (Sting storyline)
-The good guys, announcers and everyone involved in TNA are extremely gullible making fans turn on them. From AJ to Joe to Mike Tenay and Don West, they all do it. If Sting doesn't turn heel, they look stupid. If he does turn heel, who will that surprise on the roster and whoever he turns heel on will see it coming.

-When Booker was giving Joe to tour of the cage why did Joe bring a weapon when there were weapons already in the cage, why did Booker need a bat when there were weapons already in the cage. Is Sting the only person in the world with access to a black bat? Are Mike Tenay and Don West so gullible that they scream "Damn you Sting" when it could easily be someone else.

-At Hard Justice why would Joe need a guitar to beat Booker when they were fighting in a cage filled with weapons? Didn't it appear to the fans in the crowd that the lights went out, he grabbed a guitar from the cage and hit Booker with it? Maybe if Joe was laid out then the lights went out and when they came back on, Booker was laid out with pieces of a guitar wrapped over his head (might be difficult to do in the dark though).

If Russo wrote this storyline, he had a good storyline but horrible execution proving he needs either a filter or a Creative Assistant to ask questions, proofreading the script and seeing how fans react.

Booking
-If you were given 2 large pizzas every Thursday for free would you buy one large pizza for its normal price three days later on Sunday? I likely wouldn't because A) Why spend money on something you get for free when you wait and B) I would likely be tired of pizza after eating so much of it.

The point is that TNA Creative de-sensitizes or oversaturates its own product which in the long term hurts the product. When you are given two Hardcore Matches three days before a Hardcore Themed PPV, you are less likely to buy the PPV. The crowd was so burned out on the hardcore theme that by the main event of Hard Justice they would barely react.

TNA Creative recognized this with Abyss preventing him from using weapons since he oversaturated thumbtacks, then glass and also Barbed Wire. Less is more with concepts like this.

-TNA Creative limits the performers not by banning them from doing certain moves but rather by throwing in gimmicks that only take away from the wrestling. Would anyone pay to see Jay Lethal rip off Sonjay's tux when there is a channel dedicated to that somewhere else (I assume). Wouldn't the fans rather see Dutt and Lethal wrestle a great match?

A Creative Assistant would do wonders for TNA if he/she was hired by Spike TV/Dixie Carter and she/he proofread scripts, took feedback from the fans and constantly questioned the writing.
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On that note I will say TNA is more entertaining than WWE even with it multitude of problems with booking and writing. I fell asleep during last night's Raw because it was boring. No substance in the product.

 

[Talon_DR]

I have all the respect for Vince Russo and TNA creative. The storylines they come up with are entertaining to me. Flawed storylines are better than dull storylines which is what I see from WWE.

Now even though the storylines are flawed (logic holes) it's the booking that takes a hit. Russo is underrated when it comes to writing but when it comes to booking, he isn't very good.

-Too much interference and unclean finishes
-Too many gimmick matches and improper use of gimmick matches
-Gimmick matches limit the performers
-Overuse of beatdowns, hardcore wrestling and spots
-Not good at creating likable face characters or edgy face characters so far in TNA. Samoa Joe, not liked. Kaz, started to get booed.
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With that said there is a rumor that TNA Creative is thinking about doing a huge angle that resembles the Millionaire's Club vs New Blood angle from WCW and I think with enough preparation and proper execution, the angle could bring TNA past that 1.2 rating. You have the "Elite" faction of Kevin Nash, Booker T, Kurt Angle, Sting and Team 3D battling the good guy force of AJ Styles, Jeff Jarrett, Samoa Joe, Rhino, Abyss and Christian Cage. Its a good plan

 

[MisterRob]

I personally really, really hope they don't do the Millionaire's Club vs. Newblood angle in TNA. For one it wouldn't make any sense for Jeff Jarrett to be with the Newblood since he's not a young up and coming star and the next generation in any way. I also don't like the idea of Sting being involved in that faction, it just doesn't fit with him in my opinion to be a heel.. I'd rather him be somehow neutral in the middle and not on either side specifically, especially not right away. There'd also be so many holes in that angle already from recent storylines in TNA. What I wouldn't mind seeing, and what I think could definitely work in TNA and be interesting, would be TNA originals vs. Outsiders which I think has more potential and a better idea then old vs. young. Either way I'm curious to see how they explain, if they are going in a direction towards one of those angles, how each person fits into it and what their motivations are.. because it could either be really good in terms of Sting specifically or make no sense at all. So, an angle like that has the potential to either be great or be awful, let's hope it's GREAT.

 

[Talon_DR]

I do agree that a TNA vs The World angle would be much better than New Blood vs Old Blood style storyline. What I meant is that I want a massive company wide storyline. Sting would seem like a rebel. This could also be a good way to incorporate some new blood and elevate some stars.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

TNA IMPACT 8/14/2008 - 2nd time viewing notes:

- Rewatched the first package of HJ. Great captioning. Great intrigue
- Joe/Nash interviewed by Lauren

- Christian/Rhino beat RnR - Christian wins. Crowd pops. I fast forwarded the actual match
- Kurt Angle promo was brilliant. Olympic week, he brought his medal, brought up 1996 olympics, said last man standing was AJ's match and he'll have his Olympic match later tonight. Fantastic writing/delivery by Kurt. Winner gets gold medal. I loved how he cheated near the end after ref gets knocked out - CLOTHESLINE. great stuff

- AJ Styles wins the gold medal at the end of that match!

- AJ Styles promo was pretty good too, on Sting, but i dont wanna watch again, lol

- I re-watched Matt Morgan's pretape promo with Lauren. They need to make the crowd audible during the pretapes. I think you can hear abit of crowd here. Morgan sounds like he's memorizing a script, lol...

He talks about kurt, booker, and sting will not stop him from realizing his potentials. Morgan would be a good "young gun" character.

- I rewatched the entire squash match with him and Devine. That's entertaining to me. Fans are really starting to react to him. I like his "Goldberg" push, it's awesome. For no reason, 3D attacks Morgan!! what the hell? Abyss comes out, takes out the trash, and then stares Morgan down and then shakes hands!

- Oh, right. Devine is with 3D, which is why 3D attacks. 3D throws Devine to Abyss, lol, and runs.

(Commercial break: to come, Karen interviews the beautiful people)

- I watched the No sUrrender spot. Sting is advertised to be on the show. Hmm... looks like there will "hopefully" be a big angle leading to the biggest PPV of the year BFG

- I watched the Karen Angle interview in whole again. Nice production, editing, set. The beautiful people has hired someone to take care of them. KIP JAMES! hilarious. I wouldn't have been able to think of that one. Great use of Kip. How about BG now.

- They keep teasing "Gail's sister". Typical Ru$so booking.. She's obviously going to get involved down the line. She looks pretty good.

- SHEIK ABDUL BASHIR debuts, gets on the mic. I watched the whole thing and the recap of HJ. Great stuff.. Fast forwarded the match. this type of gimmick has been done, but i look for TNA to keep him compelling and emotional. He already has heat from the crowd due to the previous packages. Good stuff.

- THE "WMD" weapons of mass destruction.. Damn...

- I like wrestlers getting on the mic before/after matches and introducing us to the characters.. Great promo and heat from Bashir.

Shiek wins the match after using a sharp item and poking Lethal's throat. Impressive showing by Bashir and intriguing character. I guess he's a "smaller" wreslter - x division? Well it doesnt seem that way because he has a character..

- Sonjay comes in afterwards and does his Hindu Press.. Yeah, i'm loving this show... Cut to pretape with Booker T. JB eats the Sushi afterwards. Booker talks about the guitar nailing him (JJ vs Booker part 100 lol)


- STING package - Nash, AJ, Joe

- After HJ, Nash talks to Sting. Sting says he's not confused. He's running out of patience. His biological time clock is ticking. "It's now or never" hmmmmm

- Team 3D vs Kevin Nash and Samoa Joe is next...

- kinda a boring match or i want to see the finish, . Watcing the first time, Nash was beating up 3D before the break. During commercial I said to myself "Kevin will be down after the break" - he was, haha.

- Slammiversary 2008 DVD spot

- after a distraction, Joe grabs devon and puts him through the choke and makes him tap. Joe grabs a chair, and beat\s up ref, which leads the decision to be reversed. Joe's temper has cost him the match, and led STing to beat Joe up. Nash is upset.

- go to commercial, they hype taylor vs christy

- Traci Brooks comes out as referee again. Christy looks good, but i went to the finish. I think they can have a wrestling show with a VERY low focus on the actual wrestling that will draw to the masses.. again, that's my take. During Attitude, I always thought the PPVs were boring because they had too much focus on the wrestling. I think that the people who ordered the PPVs wanted the same type of show they saw on Raw - but with more conclusions, twists and turns. I dont think they actually want wrestling.

Buyrates were through the roof during attitude era..

- Taylor wins, AWESOME KONG comes out. Gail Kim makes the save, and does awesome moves and sister is watching all happy. Good writing, good intriguie

- Bound For Glory spots look awesome

ROUGH CUT WITH CREED.. Very awesome. Busy, i'm gonna watch the rest of the show later (about 30 mins left)

 

[JasonLives]

I thought it was a okey Impact this week. The wrestling was weaker then the previous weeks. It was still a good amount, around 30 minutes but the actual wrestling was week.
The ME completely sucked. Slow, boring, ref bump in a amatuer match?? Time was over in the last period but the ref still counted the pin, STUPID!.
Then AJ reacting like he just won the actual gold medal in the 2008 Olympics. This feud just took a few steps back. Why couldnt they just ended this at Hard Justice, its just going downhill from now for sure.
The lights going out was fun the 1st, 2nd and 3rd time but when you close to 10 times then this will only make the audience dont care.
The good about this show was the Rough Cut segment, Hernandez Vs. Storm.
TNA needs to pull themselves together, because the shows has gone downhill these recent weeks.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

TheOneBigWill's 'quick take' on iMPACT! - August 21st, 2008:

I'm just going to be bouncing around with things I remembered from the show, and my opinions on them. So this isn't exactly going to be in order.

My first thought is what is T.N.A. doing with Beer Money, Inc? For the previous two weeks Hernandez has destroyed Beer Money, solo. Either this is leading to a handicap match that'll make Beer Money look horrible.. or it's just odd booking, that's trying to keep L.A.X. in the Tag storylines, yet still making the Champs look horrible because they aren't winning, even with the numbers in their favor.

The Rough Cut segments on "Austin" Creed aren't really catching my attention in a great way. Although I do admit I was fully expecting Creed to win the X-Division Championship from Petey Williams tonight, only to then feud and battle with Bashir. I liked the ending bits where Williams played the role of "tweener" and got in the face of Bashir. I think they could set this up as a Triple Threat, with a "International" feel to it. Williams being Canadian and all, would be the odd man out.

So Glenn said the Gunns were going to have a beginning storyline as of tonight. Apparently that storyline is them turning heel and being fed up with losing. I'm going to randomly assume they'll blame the fans, in claiming the Gunns have always tried to side with them.. and in the end, the fans didn't win them anything.

Does anyone else think it'd be incredibly funny in a corny sort of way if Eric Young were in a Tag Team match, possibly for the Tag titles.. then all the sudden a "Super Eric bat-light" came on.. and he had to "mysteriously" yet in a stupid manner, leave the match to answer the call of Super Eric?

Rock n' Rave infection against Curry Man and Shark Boy.. yay, I can't hardly wait for that one. I'll give credit where it'd due, the segments where Curry talks, and even Sharky talks are somewhat funny.. but I don't wanna see Shark Boy wrestle.

Booker T. advances to the Four to Glory, or whatever it was deemed again. Gotta say I'm not surprised, Rhino hasn't been a Championship threat since he debuted. The unique situation here is the possible hint Rhino gave before the match, about the rumored "Millionaire's Club" against the "New Blood" when he said "Everyone is picking a side" then said he's there to wrestle.

I have to admit, I can't stand Matt Morgan but I believe strongly the best thing for him, is some type of alliance with Abyss. A tag match against Team 3D doesn't seem too overly worth watching, but I suppose it's worth a shot. I just can't get into Matt Morgan, at all. And I'm holding out hope that Mick Foley comes in and turns Abyss into a hardcore violent bastard again.

Kevin Nash kinda gave a hint that Joe's attitude and temper could cost him his Championship. I'm curious if at Bound For Glory, assuming it's Nash against Joe, it'll be with a stip that if Joe gets DQ'd he loses the belt. Can't say I'm too quick to wanna see Nash as Champion, but anything to get the title off Joe at this point is worth it.

Gail Kim's last match was apparently tonight, barring a storyline that's being even more tight lipped than Kaz's video game character gimmick. I have to admit, I'm going to miss Gail Kim but hopefully she picks back up with the W.W.E. and helps that Women's division find itself again.

That's the one thing I'll credit T.N.A. for fully. They have the best Women's division out of the top two companies. Almost every Knockout's match they have, is worth watching. Although I say that and know that Taylor Wilde against Angelina Love has once again been signed, this time for p.p.v.. Wilde beat Love twice, almost 3 times in a record setting time.. what'd Love do to ever earn this shot?

At this point, I think T.N.A. is trying to swerve it's fans into thinking Val will pick Dutt over Lethal, because Val's turning against Jay in almost every segment they're in, anymore. Tonight, Lethal dropped Val, (short of me seeing it wrong) and that'll only lead to Dutt playing more mind games.

I personally think in the end, Val is still going to end up with Lethal, or she's going to turn lesbian and forget them both. It's too "seen" for her to side with Dutt right now.

Kurt Angle's medals need to get the shit out of storylines. I get the Olympics are on-going and all, but seriously.. it was over a decade ago, broken neck or not.. get the shit over it. Every time those medals get used in a storyline, I personally feel it makes Angle look less and less like a true medalist to begin with, and just some pathetic wannabe still looking to hold onto past fame.

Finally, does anyone else get the impression that Jeff Jarrett isn't actually behind the guitar appearances? I've been toying with the idea for a while that Sting hasn't actually been behind the bat's showing up.. and it's just a repeat of the original n.W.o. angle where noone believed Sting wasn't the fake Sting.. so this is kinda like two for one.

Like, perhaps Jarrett is trying to "set Sting up" by giving Angle and Booker baseball bats.. so Sting in turn plays mind games back, by giving Styles and Joe guitars? I know it's kinda out there.. but it isn't unreal to think it's possible.

Overall, I can't say iMPACT! was great.. it almost never really is anymore. It had great wrestling matches. Creed is fun to watch, just boring character wise. Angle and Styles need to move on.. NOW. All in all, 4 outta 10.

 

[Gelgarin]

Well, I just watched yesterday's show. Let me be clear, it was a good show. More or less everything I saw I liked, with the highlights being Nash's promo (did more for the emerging faction angle in 3 minuets than's been managed over the past 6 weeks) Creed V Williams and Kim V Kong (Majorly pissed off if Kim is indeed on her way out).

As the show went on though, a certain theme started to emerge that I've noticed cropping up alot in TNA recently, and it was this.

It was last weeks fucking show!

Seriously, lets ignore the matches, all of which were perfectly OK, for a second; and compare the angles on the previous two editions of Impact!

Hernandez goes over a member of Bear Money against the odds.
The Guns job and one of them acts like a jerk.
Matt Morgan sqashes someone, gets beat down my 3D, Abyss makes the save.
Kurt Angle and AJ have a match for his gold medal. AJ ends the match with the guitar following a black out (worst guitar shot ever incidentally).


And that's with me being generous, and not including things like Rough Cut of the PJB skits that we get most weeks. I'm all for building on angles week after week, but TNA does have a bad habit of building on a successful angle or segment by doing the exact same thing next week.

Remember that really effective post match beatdown the 'Angle Alliance' gave AJ at the end of Impact a few months ago? Remember how the next week, the exact same group of heels gave AJ the exact same beatdown at the exact same time, with the only difference being that all the heat from the segment was lost?

It's a recurring theme which is one of the few things about TNA that really bug me, and it happened a lot on last nights show.

Other than that is was an OK show. It would have been smarter to job the Guns to Rock&Rave than to BG and Eric; but that's a minor issue. Very smart booking to turn Petey tweener heading into the Canada PPV (they could repackage Williams with a child molester gimmick and he'd still be over in Canada). I'm still (mostly) loving this millionars club repeat; simply because it's 6 weeks in, and I still have absolutely no idea who's going to be on which side, or even which side will be heel and which will be face.

As long as they ease off on the damn blackouts then I will remain suitably intrigued until BFG.

 

[einsam_fechter]

your right about the repeats, but it's not like the competition does not do the same thing. It's all part of the build up that fans are to stupid to remember something from one week to the next so we have to keeping showing it to prove a point and just possibly put someone over if they are shown enough.

I also agree that for some odd reason I can not like Morgan. he needs to drop this goldberg gimmick and go back to the stuttering gimmick at least that added a bit of humor to his lame gimmick.

the whole Gail kim thing does suck but maybe now we will see some womens matches that include some of the wrestlers that have been neglected recently like Roxxi.

 

[MisterRob]

What is wrong with TNA? It really frustrates me that they have so much potential and so much talent and they keep putting out a horrible product. Thankfully I only caught videos on youtube and read the results, I would never waste my time watching this week's episode.

So Hernandez is now getting a singles push at the expense of Beer Money? I'm really disappointed Robert Roode is stuck in a tag team now when he could entirely be a main event heel and far more interesting and appealing for me to watch then a guy like Booker T. I'm also disappointed that Homicide will now, by the looks of it, be set aside and misused while Hernandez gets the spotlight and pushed to an already cluttered main event scene, maybe?

Eric Young and BG James beat the Motor City Machine Guns? My god. I get the fact they're probably leading up to a heel turn, but you can turn wrestlers without burying them, taking away their credibility, and doing the same stereotypical story as always. Do something unique. Do something that develops the personalities of the Motor City Machine Guns and their reasons for turning, not because "they keep losing".

Karen's Angle was awful. This entire storyline with Lethal/Dutt/Val seems to be getting more and more ridiculous and Lethal's coming across poorly, not as someone the fans can root behind or sympathize with. Its not good for a feud when you care nothing about either of them and don't want to get behind either of them.

I like the Rough Cut segments and I think they're a good idea, but Creed's wasn't anything really worth mentioning.

How long has Matt Morgan been with the company? Why is he still squashing nobody's in matches? Is he that bad in competitive matches that they keep doing the tired routine of squash matches? And why put a nobody on television when you could use that valuable television time to at least showcase someone on the roster? We get it that Morgan's a big, dominant monster. We've gotten that for months now. Stop with the meaningless squash matches. I have no interest in Abyss and Morgan teaming up, and I'm still confused by where this all even came from and why Team 3D are suddenly out to get Morgan..

The highlight of Impact this week was definitely the Kong/Kim match and that's a bad omen for TNA when WWE's taken one of their main draws in not only the Knockout division but also on the whole roster as the women are the one's gettin the top ratings and Kim has definitely been a key to that division
and its success. I'm actually curious how this will effect the Knockouts division and ratings as a whole in the future, since you need a good face to get behind and compete with the heels TNA has in Kong and the Beautiful People. I am looking forward to being able to watch Kim back in the WWE, though. This was definitely a smart move by WWE.

AJ Styles and Kurt Angle AGAIN? Styles wins AGAIN? What is the point behind this booking? They've taken a wrestler I actually was interested in watching, in Styles, and put him in a feud I now care nothing about and don't want to even watch his matches in because they've overdone it some 5 weeks ago. I literally groaned when the lights turned off. It was fine once, but the fourteenth time it gets so overdone and stale and I've now lost all interest in whether it's Jeff Jarrett or not.. what's really going on.. and this whole angle between the Old vs. New really seems to be starting off poorly to me, when I had a lot of optimism it could be something really good. Its gotten cheesy now.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

MisterRob, you really gotta stop watching a show you spend most of your time complaining about. The show did a 1.1

However, I thought there was too much wrestling on the show. ALL the pretapes, the interviews were written and performed well. The Prince Justice of Brotherhood segment, as short as it was, was funny. They talked about RnR ruining Rock music. SE mentioned beatles, and Curry Man brought up Miley Cyrus. "Billy Ray"'s kid. Curry man offered to make "beautiful music" with Christy Hemme. hemme needs a bigger role

Kong/Kim's street fight was entertaining and hte aftermath with Kim's sister was just as fun, until the other knockouts made the save, which was good.

I watched Morgan's squash match, and 3D came out and made that statement about him beating guys with no future. You're stupid enough to not get the story. Morgan squashed Devine, 3D's lackey, last week, which led to 3D coming out. Morgan/Abyss then beat 3D up. 3D is out to get them.

Hernandez is getting some singles action. There was a lot of wreslting on the show. I think Russo wanted to turn them against each other. Homicide is on the sidelines and Hernandez is getting some time to shine. He did a good promo last week about when homicide hurts, he hurts. Good writing, good performance

Rough Cuts are good with Creed. Karen's Angle this week was a little over-the-top, lol... with So Cal/Dutt/Lethal but it progresses the story. Kip James/Beautiful People segment was sped up to like 10 seconds,haha.. but I find his association with the beautiful people very amusing.

BG is upset about not getting respect from disrespectful young punks like Sabin. Kevin Nash is paving the story with this itnerview and I can't wait for Sting's appearance next week.

Angle refers to it being "Planet Angle" now.. TNA is teasing Jarrett with the guitar, his music, without actually saying his name..

Thankfully I only caught videos on youtube and read the results, I would never waste my time watching this week's episode.

You must be very interested in TNA so much to do that. I don't read the results of WWE nor do I watch any of the clips on YouTube. IN addition, the only thing I probably check out about WWE is what is going on with TNA stars and maybe their ratings.

Booker's segment with Angle was serious but it had some humour with his locker room and Angle being an Olympian, he doesn't drink. Booker T is great at his role. Sharmell is heel too. Christian's only appearance was carrying Sharmell back. I'm kinda bored with Rhino and hope he gets more of a role on the show. He's been there for 3 years..

AJ Styles and Kurt. AJ wins with help from the guitar. They did a similar finish the previous week but it's setting up the story to hopefully be their biggest angle

Right now, there's a lot of intrigue and the stuff with Nash, Sting are done very well to a slow build. And I can't guess where it's going to go.. and there's tons of potential here

Not as much comedy or entertainment htis week and the wrestling was a little too much excessive so I fast forwarded most of them.... I wish the shows would be more entertaining.. but they are all watchable and it was a very stong show due to the pretapes, character dvelopment and story intrigue

 

[dirtyshubb]

I really liked this weeks show, i was gonna do a whole point by point review but after smoking a bit i just cant be bothered

Im really liking how TNA are stepping up the preparation work the the upcoming faction feud, your really starting to get the feeling that its not just the main eventers getting involved but more of a whole company vibe thats going on which for me makes it a whole lot more interesting.

Some good matches too, and were at a good length overall which is a good thing. Unlike sum i am actually enjoying the Matt Morgan push, he does seem to have all the tools need to mold himself into something big given he is willing to learn and evolve himself. Also this Goldberg like run has really got him over with the crowd it seems, week by week his pops are getting bigger so it seems like good timing by TNA in starting this 3D and Abyss angle.

I have to say i do find PJB really funny, yeah it can be a bit silly but sometimes thats the point and its always kept short so for me there is no harm in these segments, also as racist as it may be Daniels as Curryman is Gold! The whole "Action Action Action" and " See how DeRicious i am" was great, altough the best had to be him talking to LAX "I speak their lingo, BLAP BLAP" I nearly pissed myself when he made that noise!

Overall i like where TNA are going right now, i can see with Joe that what we may see happening is him having to deal with his anger problem and learn to focus on winning because of how hard they are now pushing it as his 1 weakness. This has been also one of the things the IWC has had a problem with Joe so maybe they are trying to get him back in favor with them which for me is a very good thing.

Also it seems like i said they are going with this new factions feud in a great way by building it up throughout the whole show with lots of different signs (MCMG/BG, Rhino, Sting, Angle and Booker) and the section with Nash was a great piece too.

I love having Nash around, people may think he ruined Joe but i think his angle in all this will really help Joe because we are now seeing the start of Joe having to take a look at what he has become and how he needs to change that in order to keep his belt. Hopefully i think he wont be loosing the belt any time soon and by BFG he will have overcome or face his final test in beating his anger demons and becoming the more rounded champion that he can be.

I think the most common problem people have with TNA is that they can drag things on too long but all that really is is them trying to build up stories slowly and having the eventual payoff sometime down the line. Now im not saying they are perfect and sometimes things can be booked wrong but they have had a lot of bad luck with long stories such as people getting injured and other things preventing them from carrying on and most times they will try to save what they can even if that means maybe going on a bit longer than they should have.

I think that barring injuries and such if you give TNA a chance and allow them to build these stories over time you may see that they did actually have a long term plan that when finished will be for the better, just most people cant/wont give them that time and base every bad opinion on 1 show at a time rather than as a whole which is how GOOD tv shows are made.

 

[JasonLives]

Its still a couple of months left of this year but Lethal/Dutt/Val is the Worst Feud of the Year, hands down.
Wrestling was good threw the show. But no more Angle Vs. AJ Styles now, enough is enough. This feud took a bad turn after Hard Justice.
And I find it completely stupid when a black bat shows up the announcers scream STING, ITS STING. But when a gitarr comes up its "Could it be?? Is it him?". Damn morons.

Now I hope with Stings interview things can start happening. Because I feel Impact has stand still for the last week. This show was pretty much a replay from last weeks show.

 

[MisterRob]

You must be very interested in TNA so much to do that. I don't read the results of WWE nor do I watch any of the clips on YouTube. IN addition, the only thing I probably check out about WWE is what is going on with TNA stars and maybe their ratings.

What's your point? Why would I care what you do or don't do? Of course I'm interested in TNA, I've said it time and time again - and if you actually paid attention and weren't so self absorbed in your own opinions and viewpoints you might have caught that before now - that I like the talent on TNA and want to be able to watch the product. But I'm only glimpsing at videos on youtube because its quick and easy, and only reading results to see what the products like, so I don't have continue to waste my time watching the show when its total crap. If things start turning around and I see or read something that gives me interest in actually sitting down and watching the show, then I'll start again and I'd like to, but until then I'm satisfied with keeping up tod ate but NOT watching the horrible shows they're putting out.

The booking and writing right now is garbage.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty2Hotty
You must be very interested in TNA so much to do that. I don't read the results of WWE nor do I watch any of the clips on YouTube. IN addition, the only thing I probably check out about WWE is what is going on with TNA stars and maybe their ratings.

What's your point? Why would I care what you do or don't do? Of course I'm interested in TNA, I've said it time and time again - and if you actually paid attention and weren't so self absorbed in your own opinions and viewpoints you might have caught that before now - that I like the talent on TNA and want to be able to watch the product. But I'm only glimpsing at videos on youtube because its quick and easy, and only reading results to see what the products like, so I don't have continue to waste my time watching the show when its total crap. If things start turning around and I see or read something that gives me interest in actually sitting down and watching the show, then I'll start again and I'd like to, but until then I'm satisfied with keeping up tod ate but NOT watching the horrible shows they're putting out.

The booking and writing right now is garbage.

I find it stupid that you're on the boards of a show you don't necesssary like. I like a lot of the talent on WWE, and I saw Truth on SD with his hype, and I might check out Gail if she returns. but i dont care for any of their shows because everyone on the show just talks about their matches (Glenn called it haha)

You're still whining about a show you take the effort to watch on youtube and don't like. You also seem to want to love sharing your "expert" views with us, like we care that you bash a show that you continue to watch that you supposedly "don't like".

If you dont like what you see, leave. I dont watch WWE and I'm not going to go on the WWE section and post how much I hate a show that I continue to watch.

 

[MisterRob]

I find it stupid that you're on the boards of a show you don't necesssary like. I like a lot of the talent on WWE, and I saw Truth on SD with his hype, and I might check out Gail if she returns. but i dont care for any of their shows because everyone on the show just talks about their matches (Glenn called it haha)

You're still whining about a show you take the effort to watch on youtube and don't like. You also seem to want to love sharing your "expert" views with us, like we care that you bash a show that you continue to watch that you supposedly "don't like".

If you dont like what you see, leave. I dont watch WWE and I'm not going to go on the WWE section and post how much I hate a show that I continue to watch.

That's nice. This is a wrestling forum, and a wrestling thread where people give their opinions, all of them are pointless in the end if one thinks about it. My opinion is just as valid as yours here, so are my views, and I have just as much reason and right to post criticism and a negative view of the Impact show as you are to post your positive view of the show. They're all opinions and this is a IMPACT REVIEW thread, where in I'm giving my personal review of the show. If you don't like my review because its negative, then leave and don't read my posts as I've said before. I post positive and negative aspects in my "opinions" based on what I believe is deserving, and right now there's not a lot of positive in the booking or the writing and I have every right to state that.

You're the one still responding to me, so take your own advice and if you don't like what I'm saying don't read or respond to it, because "I" find it stupid that you keep repeating the same thing over and over again, and making the same statements time and time again.

And yes, its bad to talk about your matches and hype/build your matches (as WWE does) as opposed to useless segments and other garbage that has nothing to do with the actual WRESTLING and the matches that actually happen (as TNA does a lot). Good call!

I give praise where I believe it's justified, but from what I saw of Impact this week it was far worse then previous weeks and that disappoints me. I'd like TNA to do well, I'd like to get behind them again, but its getting harder and harder to do that, which is a shame.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

TNA Impact last Thursday drew a 1.11 rating, with a 0.95 among M18-34. That 0.95 is the highest for that key demo since Impact expanded to two hours on Spike TV. The overall rating of 1.11 is up from last week's 0.90. It's back in line with the 1.10 rating from two weeks earlier. The first quarter hour drew a 1.13, then dropped throughout the hour to a 1.03 for Q4. It rebounded to a 1.09 at Q5 and grew to a 1.20 for the TNA Knockouts match in Q3, but then dropped to a 1.15 for the final, the fourth highest quarter hour of the program.

Keller's Analysis: What does it say that another Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim seven minute match in Q7 outdrew the 12 minute A.J. Styles vs. Kurt Angle ladder match in Q8. Each quarter had one commercial break. It reenforces my belief that TNA did itself a disservice business-wise if Gail Kim wasn't offered a salary within 20 percent of what an A.J. Styles level wrestler receives, with the only justification for paying her less is a shorter tenure with the company. If TNA lowballed Kim because she's a woman or a belief that the Knockouts are interchangeable, they made a mistake. Consequence Creed vs. Petey Williams drew the second-highest rating of the show, so those two get a reprieve from a lousy track record as ratings draws. The personality profiles on Creed may be warming the audience to him as a performer. The lowest two quarter ratings came for the Matt Morgan squash and Mike Tenay's sitdown with Kevin Nash. Is it Nash who isn't drawing ratings, Tenay who is turning off viewers, or the sitdown format? And what about this supposed budding star Morgan, who isn't exactly drawing ratings for TNA?

This is from Keller.. damn, highest demos ever..

Is Keller analyzing the 1 minute Kevin Nash sitdown interview again? Gosh, with his expertise, he needs to critique normal television shows like a 2 hour season premiere/finale of Lost or Dancing With The Stars so that we can know exactly why people left..

With the lowest quarter being 1.03 as compared to 1.1x, Keller says Morgan squashing someone in 3 minutes of the 15 minute quarter is "drawing low ratings". Glenn needs to call Keller up and tell him to shut the fuck up because he comes off as an incredible idiot when writing his "analysis".

To make things worse, gullibable posters on the net read his "analysis" and take it like it's fact

Keller/Meltzer = Idiots