[Official] Anti-Cena Fan Headquarters

[Lil Wes]

Why you all gotta be hating on Cena? You can't even see him!! YEAH!!

 

[ortonchamp27]

Blockbuster, top rop leg drop, fisherman's suplex, STFU, FU, "You Can't See Me" fist drop, spin-out powerbomb.

That's seven right there, and it seems I'm missing one. But, certainly more than 4 or 5.

ok but out of those 7 moves the only one that he doesnt use on a consistant basis is the top rope leg drop which is really the only one that ever creates any excitment in his matches. I just think that he could be a much better and much more excting wrestler if he would stop using those moves in every single match that he wrestles.

 

[Slyfox696]

ok but out of those 7 moves the only one that he doesnt use on a consistant basis is the top rope leg drop which is really the only one that ever creates any excitment in his matches. I just think that he could be a much better and much more excting wrestler if he would stop using those moves in every single match that he wrestles.

1) He uses the top rope legdrop quite often, probabl more than the other moves.

2) If moves are what excites you in matches, then you're watching wrestling for the wrong reasons.

 

[ortonchamp27]

1) He uses the top rope legdrop quite often, probabl more than the other moves.

2) If moves are what excites you in matches, then you're watching wrestling for the wrong reasons.

Thats whats wrong with u, u tell people y they should be watching what they are watching. just because u look for somthing certain in a match doesnt mean thats what everybody else has to look for. Having said that moves are not the only thing that i look for in a match however they are a big part of it and its nice not having to see the same ones in every main event of every ppv

 

[butters1234]

if you dont mind, ill sure as heck join, tired of seeing 5 move wrestling/a horrible marine gimmick...

 

[Slyfox696]

Thats whats wrong with u, u tell people y they should be watching what they are watching. just because u look for somthing certain in a match doesnt mean thats what everybody else has to look for. Having said that moves are not the only thing that i look for in a match however they are a big part of it and its nice not having to see the same ones in every main event of every ppv

If watching acrobatics is what entertains you, watch the circus. If moves entertains you, buy a wrestling training video.

If you want to watch a story being told between good and evil, through the illusion of reality of a fight, then you watch wrestling.

 

[Lil Wes]

Sly your a bully

 

[ortonchamp27]

If watching acrobatics is what entertains you, watch the circus. If moves entertains you, buy a wrestling training video.

If you want to watch a story being told between good and evil, through the illusion of reality of a fight, then you watch wrestling.

That might be the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Do i like watching a story being told yes i absolutly do however i also like the acrobatics and wrestling moves mixed in with it which is somthing that some people deliver, john cena not being one of them.

 

[Capt. Charisma]

Slyfox is invincible, dont even try arguing with him, he's a machine, i learned that lesson a long time ago.

 

[Minor League Brian]

2) If moves are what excites you in matches, then you're watching wrestling for the wrong reasons.

I love watching you debate, Sly. One day, I wish to have a good row with you, but at the moment I'm too busy. I'm just here to pipe in.

That right there is seriously the stupidest thing I've seen so far, and I've seen some stupid things. Who's to say whats the right and wrong reason to watch Wrestling? There are no "wrong reasons" because we do it to be entertained. If they're entertained by nothing but spots with no flow or pyschology behind them, its their perogative. That doesn't make it wrong compared to yours, just different.

You really should have worded that differently.

 

[ortonchamp27]

I love watching you debate, Sly. One day, I wish to have a good row with you, but at the moment I'm too busy. I'm just here to pipe in.

That right there is seriously the stupidest thing I've seen so far, and I've seen some stupid things. Who's to say whats the right and wrong reason to watch Wrestling? There are no "wrong reasons" because we do it to be entertained. If they're entertained by nothing but spots with no flow or pyschology behind them, its their perogative. That doesn't make it wrong compared to yours, just different.

You really should have worded that differently.

Exactly

 

[AquariusShadow]

Is it Cena you hate or the Creative Team that f's up his character?

 

[ortonchamp27]

Is it Cena you hate or the Creative Team that f's up his character?

Thats honestly the best pro-cena point that has been risen in the forum so far. I think that if cena had a different character and was given the opportunity to expand the amount of moves he uses it may be a different story. However, i am simply commenting on what i have to watch every week and the john cena that i have to watch every week bores the hell out of me and i cant stand him.

 

[Lil Wes]

John Cena is over. There - I said it. I said it without regurgitating, bazooka barfing or driving the proverbial porcelain Trailways. The reaction he received at the 2008 Royal Rumble was, with all apologies to Ludvig, deafening. No matter your opinion of John Cena (mine is so low is has to be measured with a septic tank depth finder), one has to admire his guts in returning at least two months early from what was said to be a severe injury as well as his “it-factor.” That intangible that makes people pop when they see his chiseled visage even though they later boo him like Osama at the VFW cookout.

There are those in the wrestling community (from the densest marks to the highest floors of WWE Towers) who are making comparisons between John Cena and The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin and (gasp!) Hulk Hogan. These are people who do not know the difference between a ring rope and a ringworm.

Cena is certainly over but his popularity is tempered by relativity. In short, John Cena is the most popular talent in the WWE which is two-thirds as popular as it was in 2004. That’s akin the being the greatest hockey player in the history of Trinidad and Tobago. I’ll grant that over the last few months, the WWE’s business has been trending upward but there can be no question that the precipitous path the WWE was taking from 2004 through 2007 was trending downward. I have no idea what saved it but, it appeared to hit bottom and bounce late last year.

And therein lies the rub.

The WWE is stuck in a pickle wrapped in a conundrum. Do they keep building around Cena who moves merch and gets decent buy rates and ratings or do they take a chance on pushing someone else who may take the company to an extreme in either direction? Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t, right? But lets leave Kevin Sullivan out of this.

What do Randy Orton and John Cena have in common? They look alike. Not twins-alike but both are ripped (not monstruous) white guys with buzz cuts. Jesus, why does this look always equate to decreased business? As much as I liked the guys, the Natural Born Thrillas did not draw money in WCW. Bald is one thing, but a buzz cut and ripped abs really only works when you are the only one who looks like that. Let the guys develop personalities and looks that separate them from the rest of the pack. At least Edge has long hair.

If I may, lets take an unfiltered look at the options the WWE has if John Cena has reached critical mass and a new StoneHulkColdRockAustinHogan needs to be groomed.

Mr Kennedy: Many pluses, especially his promo ability. Confidence at the mic is 90% of a great promo and this guy oozes it. His ring work, however, is only average. But then again, no one ever accused The Rock of working like Jushin Liger.

Randy Orton: His upside is he is above average on promos and above average in the ring. His downside is that he is an Ultimate Warrior-style headcase waiting to happen. Orton has had almost as many suspensions as Test has had dressing room girlfriends. Do you want to trust the very tip-top spot in the company to a guy like that?

Edge: Horrible promos. Great work. A walking dichotomy. Maybe if he had a manager. Say, whatever happened to Lita? Oh, and great hair.

Jeff Hardy: See Randy Orton. Stir in a quarter cup of “personal demons” and bake.

Santino Marella: No-a super-a-star-a will-a ever-a get-a over-a and-a draw-a house-a if-a the-a close-a caption-a-ing-a guy-a gets-a carpel-a tunnel-a syn-a-drome-a during-a two- a minute-a promo-a.. The Ultimate Warrior may be the exception to this rule, however. (Note to Vince McMahon, if a guy needs subtitles for his interviews, don’t build around him.) But, the guy is cutting the best promos in the WWE right now and his work (what we have seen of it) is fine.

MVP: First, get rid of this stupid, stupid name. The guy has charisma on the mic and in the ring and has proven that he can be carried to a **** match. In just a short time, I think he will be able to carry someone to a **** match. Just get a new name!

Carlito: Who did this guy piss off?

Who is the next StoneHulkColdRockAustinHogan? Could be one of these guys but we will never know as long as “Mr. 3.1" leads the charge. Remember, if you always want what you’ve always had, keep doing what you’ve always done.

^^

Great read IMO. Hudson is a smart man.

 

[A.J.]

^^

Great read IMO. Hudson is a smart man.

he is but I dont think edges promos are that bad

 

[Lil Wes]

Me neither. Edge is the best in the business IMO.

 

[justinsayne]

His comment on Carlito is great, LOL

 

[A.J.]

Edge is the best WWE has right now!

 

[C.M.]

Edge is the best WWE has right now!

Indeed

 

[Lil Wes]

Meh, Wait on Kennedy.....If he ever gets a shot....Which is doubtful knowing Cena will bury every heel on the roster in the next 2 year reign.

 

[Shocky]

Meh, Wait on Kennedy.....If he ever gets a shot....Which is doubtful knowing Cena will bury every heel on the roster in the next 2 year reign.

What you mean the MITB and the McBastard angle that he pissed away wasn't good enough? Kennedy is still way to green, at least two or three years away from being a legit threat. Give him the IC title and see what he does with it, then see what he does at the top.

 

[Lil Wes]

Bullshit. He could be in the main event without a problem right now. You also have seem to forgot that the IC title means jackshit anymore...

 

[Shocky]

No he's not ready. His match quality has gone to hell since moving from Smackdown to Raw. He doens't have the benefit of hiding behind edited television. He has potential, but certainly isn't ready right now. The IC title is shit, which is why if Kennedy is so good, he can bring some credibility back to a belt that hasn't had a good champion since it was reinstated. If he can do that, then see about main event level. Right now, he's not in that league, not anywhere near that league.

 

[Lil Wes]

Meh, I disagree with everything you said but fuck it. WWE isn't that smart, you apparently don't realize that. A win over Flair at Mania would give him a better boost, But I don't know if you have heard the news?

 

[Shocky]

Except for the same WWE is going to give that match to Shawn Michaels, or have you heard the news that Michaels isn't booked in a match yet, and Michaels is politicing to be the guy to end Flair's career. There is nothing wrong with Kennedy moving up the ranks and having a good run with a mid card title. If he's as good as people apparently think he is, then he could actually add value to it, instead of getting destroyed be Cena, Michaels, Triple H, and anyone else that is better then him on Raw at the moment.