NFL AND NCAAF bar room thread

[Ty Burna]

Brady suspended 4 games, Pats fined a cool million, lose their 2016 first round pick, and their 2017 4th round pick.

Good time as any to see what Jimmy G can bring to the table. Probably scale it down to a run heavy approach. The suspension is fine in my book, though with an appeal could be lowered to 2-3.

The million dollars is whatever, the Kraft family will just print more money to make up for it. The 1st rounder though, that's brutal. Goodell's trying to make an example out of the Pats, that's one way of doing it.

 

[Richard Blonoff]

His first game back will be against Indy. Fuck me.

 

[jmt225]

No suspension for Bellichick, eh? I guess the whole "Ignorance is no excuse" was only for Sean Payton.

Still fucking infuriates me.

 

[Lowdown]

I'm actually surprised he got a suspension at all. They're not find crack the will to hard on the golden boy.

 

[Lowdown]

Crack the whip on the golden boy. I hate this damn keyboard sometimes.

 

[Stormtrooper]

No suspension for Bellichick, eh? I guess the whole "Ignorance is no excuse" was only for Sean Payton.

Still fucking infuriates me.

To be fair, it's one thing to not have an idea of what one player is doing. It's another entirely to not know of an entire team doing something.


I'm most glad that they punished the Patriots as repeat offenders.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

His first game back will be against Indy. Fuck me.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Megatron]

To be fair, it's one thing to not have an idea of what one player is doing. It's another entirely to not know of an entire team doing something.


I'm most glad that they punished the Patriots as repeat offenders.

While I don't think Belichick should've been suspended, Goodell set the precedent with Payton and all he had was "ignorance is no excuse", which is a weak ass punishment. Plus, I'd be shocked if Belichick had no idea. He's well known for being a micromanager and a little trick like that seems right up his alley.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Everett Golson transferred to FSU.


Wowza.

 

[Nate DaMac]

You guys hear about the new extra point rules?

 

[George Steele's Barber]

You guys hear about the new extra point rules?

Seems silly to change but will lead to some excitement.

Frankly I think football was fine as it was. The short extra point was the nap after ejaculation that we all hope to get.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I like the fact that you can return failed 2 point conversions now. I assume it's just a safety.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I like the fact that you can return failed 2 point conversions now. I assume it's just a safety.

It goes against the NFL trying to keep the game safer (a little bit) but I like that aspect too.

I think you can get the same for a returned blocked extra point. I'm not sure if you can get it for a botched extra point (e.g. botched snap that gets returned).

 

[GI Cake]

So Ray McDonald got arrested for assaulting a woman holding a baby and then got himself cut from Chicago who needed depth at Defensive Line.

Good riddance, fuck McDonald.

 

[Akhilleus]

Vikings are getting real gross with this Peterson situation. They say play here or don't play.

Peterson should say no, trade me or I don't play and you waste me away.

Would they rather get nothing out of Peterson? Honestly don't blame Peterson for not wanting anything to do with Minnesota, and I hope he doesn't give in.

 

[Ty Burna]

Vikings are getting real gross with this Peterson situation. They say play here or don't play.

Peterson should say no, trade me or I don't play and you waste me away.

Would they rather get nothing out of Peterson? Honestly don't blame Peterson for not wanting anything to do with Minnesota, and I hope he doesn't give in.

What the fuck seriously.

Peterson signed a god damn contract. A contract that will pay him oh I dunno, $13 million dollars to play a fucking sport.

Last year the league could have just suspended him indefinitely and he would have not made a fucking dime. Instead the Vikings negotiated and got Goodell to put him on the exempt list so he would get paid to do fuck all at home while working out his legal problems that, need I remind you, he put himself into that situation.

Peterson is not a fucking victim in any way shape or form. The Vikings went over and beyond what a normal player would get. The Vikings have absolutely no requirement to trade Peterson. None. And they don't want to trade him. They want him to play for the team, and due to the contract that he agreed to, he is legally obligated to play exclusively for the Minnesota Vikings or just not play football and not get paid. Zimmer didn't say anything out of the fucking ordinary there, and unless a team ponies up exactly what we want for Peterson, we're not trading him.

So this whole fucking thing the Vikings are being evil about the Peterson situation is fucking bullshit and you know it. The Vikings got him paid last year while he went through his shit, they rolled out the red carpet for him to return, visited him, and made it very clear they want him to play for them. Meanwhile you have his scumbag agent Ben Dogra talking all this shit because oh imagine that, the agent wants a nice slice of a new contract Peterson would get if he were to be traded. I'm all for us throwing some guaranteed money Peterson's way for the next two years if it smooths everything over.

This isn't about personal pride or anything of that nature. It's about money. Peterson's last guaranteed money is this year, after that there is none left on his deal, and if the Vikings throw him say $8 mil guaranteed the next two years with incentives, then this whole situation blows over immediately. But don't try to act like we're holding him hostage and that he's a victim of a contract he signed that pays him higher than any other player at his position.

 

[Ty Burna]

Oh. Would you look at that.

http://www.vikings.com/news/article...tatement/fa2ffd14-6879-428c-ab7e-d1d7a1335b33

 

[Ty Burna]

On second thought. He's being a whiny little bitch again. Trade him to Oakland.

 

[GI Cake]

On second thought. He's being a whiny little bitch again. Trade him to Oakland.

Or trade him to Washington. Just get him behind some garbage offensive line on a shitty team and watch him get battered and bruised up like he was hit with a switch.

 

[Ty Burna]

Or trade him to Washington. Just get him behind some garbage offensive line on a shitty team and watch him get battered and bruised up like he was hit with a switch.

I'll take an Alfred Morris and a 2nd please and thank you.

 

[Ty Burna]

Funny thing is, in his tweets he isn't wrong about teams have all the control over contracts being able to cut players at their whim, but that's not on the team, that's on the NFLPA being one of the most inept player unions in professional sports and bending over taking it from the owners with no lube. If the NFLPA were able to get fully guaranteed contracts like the NBA does, this type of shit wouldn't come up at all.

 

[Akhilleus]

NFLPA is weak as shit. It's the reason why the Roger Goodell and the NFL have been able to change the entire damn game so much.

On the other side of the spectrum the baseball player's union is overpowered. No salary cap is ridiculous, but it'll never happen in baseball with that union. We'd have a lockout for years.

NBA players union probably has the most balance.

 

[Megatron]

I know this is the NFL/NCAAFB thread, but let me go off on a tangent:

the MLBPA allowing a salary cap would be the dumbest thing ever because it would artificially set a limit to what players could earn. If you have a finite amount of space to spend, obviously certain players are going to not get what they currently get. Yeah, Kyle Seager/Pablo Sandoval/insert average player here earns just as much/more than Rodgers/Brady/etc. on a per year basis despite being not as important of players, but you know where that money would be going if it wasn't going to the players? The owners, who consistently are trying to rip off taxpayers to pay for their stadium (*cough* Jeff Loria *cough*) or are willing to drop players whenever they feel (basically every NFL team) regardless of how much non guaranteed money is left.

So no, fuck salary caps and anyone that thinks they're a good idea for a sport doesn't realize what they really do. The rich teams will always spend more, salary cap or not, and the sport without one, has just as much/more parity than the ones that do.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Huh. Since Peterson is such a stalwart for the sanctity of contract obligations, im sure he will be returning the 12 million dollars he was paid last year when he didn't play for Minnesota because he was arrested for child abuse.

 

[Akhilleus]

I know this is the NFL/NCAAFB thread, but let me go off on a tangent:

the MLBPA allowing a salary cap would be the dumbest thing ever because it would artificially set a limit to what players could earn. If you have a finite amount of space to spend, obviously certain players are going to not get what they currently get. Yeah, Kyle Seager/Pablo Sandoval/insert average player here earns just as much/more than Rodgers/Brady/etc. on a per year basis despite being not as important of players, but you know where that money would be going if it wasn't going to the players? The owners, who consistently are trying to rip off taxpayers to pay for their stadium (*cough* Jeff Loria *cough*) or are willing to drop players whenever they feel (basically every NFL team) regardless of how much non guaranteed money is left.

So no, fuck salary caps and anyone that thinks they're a good idea for a sport doesn't realize what they really do. The rich teams will always spend more, salary cap or not, and the sport without one, has just as much/more parity than the ones that do.

Yes yes I've already heard you opinion on this when I made the thread about it last year in the sports section. You have your opinion and I have mine. No salary cap allows the owners (Like Yankees and Dodgers) to go out and buy whatever players they want to. Meanwhile teams like Oakland, Kansas City, or Tampa Bay who have the lowest budget in all of baseball are forced to grow and develop players the real way and still be successful.

But like you said this is the NFL thread, so if you want to continue the debate on this feel free to dig up my old thread.

Back to football. We finally get a date for Brady's hearing....predictions for the outcome? I'm thinking Big Rog gives Brady two games...maybe even say he'll reduce it for one game with good behavior or some stupid crap like that. And Brady's going to bend over and take it because if he sues them and goes to court his cellphone records and any other evidence he wouldn't give up could then be subpoenaed and he would be Ryan Bruan'd to the world and exposed for the lying cheater scumbag he is.