Mr. Wrestlemania vs. The Streak: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker

[klunderbunker]

Russo at the time was hell bent on getting Kane and taker to work. For some reason he was going to hotshot the match on Raw as a street fight with Taker winning to get the ratings up. If Taker ever loses at Mania, it should be the end of his career. At that point he'd have nothing left to prove and his career could end with it being said that he could finally rest in peace.

 

[Legendary_Undertaker]

Russo us a douche. I liked the storyline kane/taker had but after he won it made no sense to have them face each other again. Its sad that kane will go down in history being a more decorated champion than taker.

Losing at mania really wouldn't retire him as i'm sure he'd want revenge... You know creative can't resist drawing out something far past its prime. anyway i'm sure whoever taker faces will put on a good show. Hopefully it will be the highlight of the evening

 

[Wrestlefest07]

An idea that I thought of that would be great would be to see the Undertaker face JBL's employee HBK at W25. JBL has a natural heat about him and watching him try and use HBK to beat Taker would make my Wrestlemania. In addition, JBL is also from Texas so the story angle could be something like: Who wants to face the Undertaker at W25 and the JBL walks out to a disgust from the crowd were he once again arrogantly tries to outshine his opponent. The current angle with JBL and HBK would be nicely worked into the Undertaker streak angle and HBK fighting to be free from JBL, but at the cost of trying to beat the Undertaker at W25. In order for HBK to be free of JBL he must beat the Undertaker were no one else has has beaten him EVER. That would be tight. The at backlash HBK and JBL fight with HBK winning.

 

[JustinSane]

To say that shawn michaels should be the choice for the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 25 is an easy one. At this point and with how much time is left between now and the event, Michaels seems the only logical choice for the Undertaker. There is not one single wrestler on the Smackdown roster that Taker could start a program with in this short of time and make it a worthy storyline for Mania outside of HHH and as long as the WWE title was involved. But since the chances of that happening are not too high the best bet for an opponent worthy of Wrestlemania has to be Shawn Michaels.

But the real question here then is how do you introduce a match between these two? Remember that these two mentioned legends are on different brands, so just saying that these two will be opponents will make no sense storyline wise unless a good idea is come up with. The answer to this one, and in which I feel the way to introduce this match is to have the next installment of the Raw vs. Smackdown interpromotional match at Wrestlemania. Both Raw and Smackdown GM's would have the dubious choice of choosing their representative. Each would choose their pics and thus we have HBK vs. Taker.

No matter who picks first or second, each GM would realize that Undertaker has never lost, and therefore, what better person to end that streak or attempt to than Mr. Wrestlemania? That is an easy way to start the heat between these two leading up to Mania without having to throw some random storyline in there as to why these two have to face each other.

Thoughts? Opinions? Seems an easy and logical choice but with WWE nowdays, who knows what they have up their sleeves!!

 

[Legendary_Undertaker]

That is a good IdeaJustin but the only problem I see with that is we don't yet know how the JBL/HBK angle is going to play out but that IS the only logical storyline I could see between the two

I hate to say this wrestlefeast but you angle just wouldn't work because in your storyline Taker would eaither have to carry JBL in what is more than likely his last Mania which would lead to a really boring match-up nad if it wre to go the oher way and JBL had HBK to fight for him then Taker would have to los mania and we all know that won't happen

 

[War Games]

damn WM looks bad this year. as for who taker will face i see only two options
1. is Hbk who everyone wants to see
2. call me crazy but i think rhodes and Dibease. allow me to explain how this could be possible and why

with taker facing orton on raw this week you can bet every penny you have that rhodes and dibease will get involved somehow. i think that it woudl be great if it was a 3 on 1 beatdown n shane came in and fought off legacy with taker who delivers both rhodes and dibease choke slams. then at NWO rhodes and dibease come out and distract taker in the chamber match causing him to be gone. then on raw randy can explain how he was the one who wanted taker gone and gives rhodes and Dibease the challenge to end his WM streak. This could allow Dibease's father to come in and be involved and help promote WM legends. whilst most of you wanna c taker vs shawn
i think wwe need to push the young likes to give them a shot and i think a taker vs legacy feud would be worth the risk

 

[jwhunt]

No doubt we're all gonna get what we want at Wrestlemania 25 & thats
Shawn Michaels Vs. The Undertaker.

The backstage face-to-face moment at the Royal Rumble pretty much nailed it. Also adding to it the HBK/JBL match is happening at NWO which also sums the whole thing up. Like what Taker said to Shawn "It's hell getting to heaven." Shawn's been goin through hell now siding with JBL & being his puppet & doing his tough work. Shawn will end it all at NWO & enters heaven being back in the Wrestlemania main event status & challenge Undertaker & try to end his WM streak.

NOW LETS LOOK BACK ON THE HISTORY

HBK/Taker first fought at Ground Zero where it was just an outbreak war with no winner. Then came the first Hell in a Cell match & then the Royal Rumble Casket Match. Even though Kane came into play on both, Shawn Michaels has beaten the Undertaker on both occassions. Then you got NWO 2007 where HBK superkicking Taker into Cena's FU for another Taker lost. Then came Royal Rumble 2008 where Shawn Michaels eliminated Taker. I think there was another Rumble match where the same result happened but still.

The only time Taker got the best of Shawn was at the end of Royal Rumble 07 where Taker won it. Besides the jumping tombstone into the casket at that Rumble 98, inside the ring & in singles battle I don't recall ever seeing Taker tombstoning Shawn in all the rest of there battles. Also, In Taker's History he's never beaten Shawn in a match.

Taker has already put Shawn over in those past times. Wrestlemania time, I'm hoping for Taker give Shawn his first tombstone & his last ride & finally defeat him going 17-0.

 

[The Palace of Wisdom]

Of course, HBK/Taker is the WM 25 dream match. They are the two most WWF/E guys in history, the two guys that have been there the longest and never jumped ship. Such a high profile match between those two is a no-brainer.

If that didn't go down, I could see Taker/Kozlov, Taker's streak vs. Kozlov's streak.

 

[PG era is the best]

do we really need to have a storyline we all know what the ending going to be Undertaker win, I much rather they face at Summerslam so HBK at least looks good maybe have Taker and HBK tag together to take on JBL and Umaga

 

[Pimpin]

I could either see Taker vs Umaga at wrestlemania but I doubt it will happen cause Umaga just returned. I could see Taker vs Kozlov as both their undefeated streaks go on the line or finally HBK vs Taker in a dream match & renew whatever they had in late 97-early 98. Those 3 matches are probably what's gonna happen in my book.

 

[h_G]

Personally, I reckon it'll be Jericho. You'll have Orton/Cena and Edge/HHH/Big Show tied up in the two main events. I think HBK will be in the same match as JBL, one way or the other, which doesn't really leave anyone else they haven't done before. Jericho is slating legends and their legacies, how they can't walk away and cling onto former glories. I don't see Flair wrestling, nor Rourke, or Austin. I'd have thought there'd be bigger matches for Austin to wrestle, maybe it's just me but Austin vs. Jericho doesn't feel like a 'must have' match. That leaves one legend available, which would be 'Taker.

Considering 'Taker's obviously going over and it'd do Jericho no harm, it makes sense.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

At this point, I don't see who else Taker can face at WM except Shawn Michaels. I doubt Taker will win the Chamber match at NWO since he and Edge already main evented last year. Edge is obviously going to be in the main event whether he wins or loses at NWO.

I doubt Taker is going to face Umaga since the build up for that is just going to be horrible, especially with only a few weeks till WM. Umaga doesn't speak English and Taker rarely speaks at all. Can you just picture the promos these two would do? Umaga: "BLAHHHHHHHHHHH" Taker: "RIP" -lights go out- I really don't want to see 6 weeks of that kind of a build up.

Kozlov vs Taker is a decent idea, but with Kozlov in the Chamber, he is obviously going to take his first pinfall or submission loss unless he ends up winning, which I highly doubt. There really won't be a streak vs streak match.

Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker doesn't need a huge build up. They've already laid the groundwork for this match at Royal Rumble 2007 & 2008 and these two had an epic rivalry back in 1997-1998. They could possibly do a Raw vs Smackdown match like they did last year with Batista and Umaga and then build up from there. The only problem with this idea is that I can't see Vickie going and asking Undertaker to represent Smackdown.

 

[Starchild]

There are only 3 options for this match for me, and from there it's not even close.

#3. Taker vs Chris Jericho
Now I admit this is definitely second on the list of matches I'd want to see Taker be in, but probably 3rd in likelihood of actually happening. Jericho seems to kind of be in limbo as we don't know what to make of Rourke, I can't really see Flair coming out of retirement for this match (and hope he doesn't), Austin vs Jericho just doesn't make sense as why would he come out of retirement to face Jericho other than losing to him in the first undisputed championship match? I could see the storyline of Jericho disrespecting all these legends and an active legend on the roster want to stop him, but I am still holding out on the Jericho vs Rourke match.

#2. Taker vs Koslov
This is your classic Taker Mania match. A guy that hasn't really been pinned (other than he will be at NWO in the Chamber) and a seemingly unstoppable force against the streak. Taker has done this numerous times before and I think these two could definitely put on a decent match, plus they have had encounters on Smackdown in the last couple months so the groundwork is layed to start with after NWO.

#1. Taker vs HBK
What can we say? This is an anniversary Wrestlemania and as such you need to have the best matches possible. What better way than have the two longest-tenured guys on the roster reignite their classic rivalry and of all places in both of them's home state of Texas. We all know that Royal Rumble 07 and 08 teased this and their brief encounter at the 09 edition did a little more so it definitely seems like the most likely case. And what the hell..if we're going with the all-Texas match, who better to referee this instant classic than the Texas Rattlesnake, Stone Cold Steve Austin...and afterwards he could even dish out a couple stunners to two of his biggest rivals ever. Taker and Michaels are, even after near 20 years, two of the best performers on the roster and this is the dream Mania match we all want to see. Don't be surprised if these two face off, tear the house down and steal the show.

 

[NSL]

I'm going to say he should face Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania. Besides the fact they're both from Texas, there's so much that can be done with this match. If they feel the need to make it a face v. heel match, they can market it as the religious Shawn Michaels, going against the Deadman from Death Valley. Undertaker can tell Shawn that he's going to bury Shawn's career at the same event where Shawn buried Flair's. No matter what they do, the matchup of The Showstopper v. The Streak would be legendary.

Another idea I saw kicked around, and agree with, is for 'Taker to face off against Jericho. Jericho seems to be involved in something already, so I doubt it would happen, but the match would be outstanding. Jericho is much smaller than Undertaker, and his offense would match up well with Taker's. It's already set as a face v. heel match, so there'd be no need to alter gimmicks, or figure how a face v. face match would work.

Ultimately, I know that they are both too big to face Undertaker at Wrestlemania, and he probably won't face someone that big until it's time for the streak to end, or he retires.

I'll put my money on him facing Kozlov. It's not an original idea, but it could work, if booked properly. Kozlov has a very power-driven offense, so it would be up to Undertaker to determine the pace of the match, and make it believable, considering we all know he's up there in age, and is on gimpy knees. Kozlov wants a challenge, and he would definitely get it here.

Of course, Undertaker has to win at the show that made him who he is today. Especially at it's silver anniversary. Whoever he faces, it's assured to be a good match, and will definitely have a big ending. I'd like to see him win with the Tombstone Piledriver. He rarely does it anymore, and it would be a guaranteed reaction from the hometown crowd if he used it, and the opponent didn't kick out.

 

[Queers and Steers]

Shawn michaels and The Undertaker are the two most respected wwe characters of all time!!! and in my opinion this will be the greatest match of all time! but those are my to favorites so am i biased? or is this match indeed the greatest of all time!?

 

[The Rob]

It'll be interesting to say the least. Michaels (being Mr Wrestlemania) would be a true threat to Undertaker's undefeated streak. It will sure as hell be the best match on the card if both men give it their all (which, because its Wrestlemania, they will).

 

[klunderbunker]

It'll be great, but by no means the greatest match of all time. The greatest matches of all time tend to come out of nowhere. Take Savage and Steamboat for example. We knew it would be good, but we didn't know it would be legendary. ANother big issue I have with this match is that barrign something big changing, there isn't going to be much of a storyline for this match outside of a challenge. While that can work, I think it needs a bit more than that. it'll be great, but not one of the best ever.

 

[thewrestlinghero]

Well this will be a hell of a match but i dont think it will be a greatest match of all time maybe if these were in there prime and faced at this year wrestlemania then yes it maybe

 

[Jammer]

Well, it hasn't even been announced yet. Ah what the hell, I think it's obvious that we are going to see it happen. And I believe the match will have a good six weeks of build-up, which is great. It is going to be huge, Mr. WrestleMania versus the streak of the Deadman. However, the actual quality won't beat many matches that we have seen in the past. Not that it won't stop the match from being fantastic, but I think both men are too aged to put together one of the greatest matches of all time, especially Undertaker.

 

[The Rob]

I wouldn't say that the quality won't be as good. In the past 2 years both Taker and Michaels respectfully have had matches at Wrestlemania that have been voted Match of the Year by alot of people. Taker's performance against Batista at Wrestlemania 23 was masterful whilst Michael's performance at Wrestlemania 24 was usual Michaels, it just happened to be against Flair who wrestled out of his skin.

Now if the pair of them had matches like they had at Wrestlemania 23 and Wrestlemania 24 then their encounter at Wrestlemania 25 will be a truly incredible thing. It probably won't be the best match ever, but you can imagine it being a match we'll be talking about for years to come.

 

[Buford]

Yeah the man that's undefeated at Wrestlemania vs. the man who always steals the show at Wrestlemania. Think about all of the Wrestlemania's Michaels has been in since he has returned.

WM19- HBK vs. Jericho MOTN
WMXX- HBK vs. HHH vs. Benoit MOTN
WM21- HBK vs. Angle MOTN
WM22- He faced Vince McMahon, so I mean you can't get MOTN out of him.
WM23- HBK vs. Cena MOTN
WM24- HBK vs. Flair MOTN

So 5/6 Wrestlemania's since he has returned, he has the best match of the night. This year it will be the same, MOTN.

 

[Jammer]

I wouldn't say that the quality won't be as good. In the past 2 years both Taker and Michaels respectfully have had matches at Wrestlemania that have been voted Match of the Year by alot of people. Taker's performance against Batista at Wrestlemania 23 was masterful whilst Michael's performance at Wrestlemania 24 was usual Michaels, it just happened to be against Flair who wrestled out of his skin.

Now if the pair of them had matches like they had at Wrestlemania 23 and Wrestlemania 24 then their encounter at Wrestlemania 25 will be a truly incredible thing. It probably won't be the best match ever, but you can imagine it being a match we'll be talking about for years to come.

I know just about everyone here won't agree, but I didn't see what was so special about the match between Flair and Michaels just last year. Ok, the hype was outstanding and the aftermath was really good, but I didn't actually enjoy the wrestling during the match itself. Anyways, 'Taker versus Michaels will definitely be a great match, I just feel that both are past their primes, so there's no way it can be the greatest match of all time. But there's no doubt that it can be one of the greatest.

 

[tyler.durden]

it will be great, for sure. whether or not it's the greatest, we will find out at wm25. i won't judge a match before it took place. if hbk and taker can give us a grueling 20-25 min match with many near falls, big spots, blood, emotions, no outside interference (i pray to god jbl doesn't get involved), etc... then it will definitely be up there with the best of the best matches. this feud doesn't need any build up, since it's basically an ego/who's got the bigger balls kind of match, ala goldberg/lesnar.

 

[The Rob]

I know just about everyone here won't agree, but I didn't see what was so special about the match between Flair and Michaels just last year. Ok, the hype was outstanding and the aftermath was really good, but I didn't actually enjoy the wrestling during the match itself.

Did you not see a 59 year old man hit a cross-body off the top rope like he was 25 again? Did you not see a mid 40's Shawn Michael's hit up a Springboard moonsault off the ropes onto the announce table (admittly he didn't connect with that one) and then again onto the outside. The wrestling in the ring was incredible, very back and forth and the ending was emotional as hell. Now consider that these two men are old (by todays standards anyway), they wrestled like they were in their prime. Anyways this thread is about Michaels v Taker so I apologise for my rant.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

I know just about everyone here won't agree, but I didn't see what was so special about the match between Flair and Michaels just last year. Ok, the hype was outstanding and the aftermath was really good, but I didn't actually enjoy the wrestling during the match itself. Anyways, 'Taker versus Michaels will definitely be a great match, I just feel that both are past their primes, so there's no way it can be the greatest match of all time. But there's no doubt that it can be one of the greatest.

I disagree. Michaels has never been better. He has won many match of the years since he returned from his back injury. He may not be as physically fit as he was in his prime but he still puts on better matches than most of the younger guys. The same can be said about Undertaker and his evolution. He's faster and has a wider moveset than he did back in the 90's.

These two had a great rivalry back in 1997-1998 and I don't think Undertaker has ever beat Shawn if I recall correctly. That could really add some fuel to the fire.

I just hope JBL isn't involved in anyway after next week. I want this match to be absolutely clean and it would really suck if it were turned into a triple threat just to get JBL on the card.