Mark The Undertaker Callaway is overrated.

[PompeyDJ]

you say he's feared in the back? that's not quite right. he's RESPECTED. out of the current roster he's been there the longest (i think) for 20 years. just to be mentioned in the same breath as this guy will do wonders for your career. he may be older now but he still helps put over the younger guys. only the newer people fear him as he's seen as the most respected and important guy there. would you want to piss him off in real life when everyone else respects him so much?
the streak wasn't really mentioned until wrestlemania 20 when cole pointed it out after he beat kane. then it was brought up again at 21. orton could have broken it but turned it down even after taker insisted that he won. there was no chance of mark henry breaking it at 22. batista was already huge and didn't need it at 23. edge was a cheating heel at the time of 24 and the streak should be broken cleanly. also, he was going to drop the title to edge after. the hbk match at 25 could have gone either way but both men wanted time off and michaels and vince wanted the streak to stay. hbk wanted to retire so another 5 star match against taker was the best way at 26.
so the reason you're getting so many negative responses is because the people here realise what he has done for the company. undertaker IS WWE. i could keep going but everything else has already been covered by other people

 

[The Ace of Knaves]

When you've been apart of a federation for 20+ years, you're bound to gain alot of respect. Doing what Taker does isn't easy. Nagging injuries, constant high profile matches, it's alot to be admired when it comes to Takers job. Even gauntlets like Triple H haven't ever talked down about him, and it comes as a surprise seeing as they supposedly dislike each other. Now, when Edge spoke about Eddies death, he mentioned Taker, and said he was the only guy left he could speak to after Chris and Guerrero died. Not to forget Taker is a respected guy backstage, he's earned his keep. And anyone who talks down about him, regardless, will get a crap load of backlash from nearly every other wrestler in the lockeroom. He's like their God, even when The Hardy Boys first started, they where jobbers, but Taker looked out for them, and then was only within his first couple of years in WWE - so it shows he pretty much worked hard all his career.

The only person who i can think of, which comes to close to 'talking down' of Taker, is Stephanie McMahon. She wanted to end Takers streak, for Triple H no doubt - favorism much? Anyway, she wanted it gone and her husband to end it. Thankfully, that never and hopefully, won't happen. He has this undeniable aura about him, even the haters can admit that, heck, does he even have haters? Lame if you can't admire one of the best in the business, and that's an understatement.

Overall, as it has been stated by many other guys (i.e. JBL, Edge, Orton), The Undertaker runs the backstage, and if he says something, it sticks. I believe he was the first to man up and pound McMahon's door and say he needed to apologize to Bret during the whole Survivor Series screwjob and that spoke volumes with the clubhouse, showing that Taker, would stick up for any person, no matter what.

 

[achromat666]

Mark Calloway has done what few other performers have managed to do: He's made a name for himself as a character which has endured in the WWE for over a decade while managing to retain the same sense of awe and grandeur the whole time, despite a rapidly changing industry (yes, even the American Badass gimmick).

Some make the case that Shawn Michaels is the greatest in ring competitor and much can be said to support it. Some can say the Rock has the best mic and overall entertainment skills in the ring. You can make the case that Austin is directly responsible for the Attitude era and is one of the most recognizable faces in wrestling. But ALL of the people listed here went through the deadman to cement their status in the business. All worked some of their best matches with him. Now this is 3 of the most revered names in the WWE era, and all have been given a monster push through a program by the Undertaker.

There are a lot of younger fans that make the leap that title reigns and win/losses are the things that make up the best performers and those most deserving of praise. But none of those fans understand what makes this business tick. Even when wrestling was still being done in tents many decades ago you had to make your audience believe that your opponent could win. You had to have some measure of skill and ability to tell a physical story without saying a single word. And you had to respect the business and stand by it to make a name for yourself. all of these things define what makes Mark Calloway who he is in the business.

He puts the younger stars over. He makes you believe a more inexperienced wrestler could conceivably beat him, even if he wins. He does what very few men his size are capable of in the ring every time he performs. And he's done it with a persona that people can still be amazed by, that still draws a crowd and receives a strong response. Even in the modern internet era where people want all the answers before the show even starts that has merit.

His weakest matches are better than what most guys in the locker room can do on their best night. And that's not marking out, though I freely admit to being a huge fan. That's the sum total of the years in the business he's given. It's the same work ethic that made Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H and all of the greats who they are.

John Cena is in my mind overrated, and would be fortunate to have half the success over a long career that Mark Calloway has had. Goldberg is largely overrated, but drew seats which Calloway as the Undertaker has never failed at doing.

Before making arbitrary judgments about someone simply because they don't wrestle as frequently or because they haven't had the title as often, think about what it means to be a legend in wrestling. Mark has done it without running off at the mouth about how good he is, or getting over with smart remarks. Often he makes the biggest impact by saying nothing, letting his work speak for him. He adapts to the business without losing his persona. In the hands of most other performers the Undertaker character would have died years ago.

The streak, while likely accidental in it's beginning has become larger than life in it's own way. It, like much of Calloway's WWE career is a gift to the business. Enjoy it.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

Very Stupid! You're pissed off because he takes half the year off and then comes back at wrestlemania and has everyone bowing down to him? Do you have any idea how long he has been wrestling for? over 20 years, why doesn't he deserve breaks?? He has been working his ass off in wwe, because the streak is like the biggest draw now at WrestleMania, and WWE won't want him to dissapoint the fans, they want him to be in tip top perfect condition, because his body is aging and well, can't really do much about it..

You also say he doesn't want to end his streak, well back in 2006, he had a casket match with mark henry i believe, I can't remember, but all I do remember is that Mark Henry was supposed to beat him.. they changed it last minute i think..

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

First off I know that this post is probably pointless because I have never seen anyone who agrees with me on this.

I see people slag off Taker all the time, but they all do it far better than you did.

The thing that gets me is that he gets to be gone for months at a time and step right into the main event at WM. How is that fair?

Because his match has become one the key draws of WM, just like the title matches and MiTB. If Santino went undefeated for 19 years at WM, people would pay to see who finally beat him as well.

Everybody in the world worships this dude and I dont get it.

Seriously, no they don't.

Its like Vince and the 'boys in the back' bow down and worship this guy like he is the god of the world.

It's called respect for a veteran. Especially a veteran who's willing to lay down and give wastes of space like The Great Khali a massive rub, and isn't a championship ****e like HHH or Edge.

How does 1 man get this kind of rub??? Its a predetermined sport and this guy gets to have this kayfabe record.

It's a predetermined sport and Ric Flair gets to have more title reigns than pretty much anyone in the world ever? It's a predetermined sport and Jerry 'The King' Lawler has been Memphis champion 50 times?

And you're complaining that Taker is guaranteed to win one match a year? Jesus.

Plus the creative team didn't even realise they'd done it until he'd beaten Flair at WM18. They looked up and said 'really, we've booked him to win every year? Weird....... Hey, why don;t we try and market that?' and then it was ANOTHER 3 years before they even started with 'The Streak' matches at Mania.

The fact that Mark Callaway hasnt insisted on his streak being ended proves hes a mark for his own fake gimmick.

So why was he so desperate to go to being the American Bad Ass 10 years ago if he loves being The Deadman so much? Since he doesn't do interviews or seemingly anything to break kayfabe ever, how do you know what he does and does not want?

All you ever hear is how athletic he is. Umm ok hes tall , umm he can walk on a rope and jump down and hit a guys arm. Wow thats some John Morrison moves right there.

Ohhhhhh, oh i see now. You're into spot monkeys. You must think Jeff Hardy can do no wrong and JoMo MUST get a world title run or else WWE is a shit hole that wastes ALL of the talent they hire.

Name another 300lb man in his late 40s who does suicide dives to the outside? Just one will do.

He does the eye rolling and tongue sticking out and the dark music and oh yeah the tombstone, Wow my god what an athlete.

Jeff Hardy jumps off stuff. Wow, what an athlete.

The undead stuff is his gimmick dude, it's nothing to do with his athleticism. Were you on smack when you typed this up?

Basically hes a control freak and he has a high opinion of his self.

himself moron, himself. And again, when have you seen Taker even refer to himself that wasn't in a kayfabe promo?

I hate when every pro wrestler praises this guy. Longevity is good but this guy has taken how many vacations over the years??

Vacations? He's heeling from fucking injuries you idiot! You try getting smashed with chairs, being thrown off stages, beaten, battered and bloodied for 20 years and see if you can handle 300 nights a year without a break.

Hes been buried alive like 5 times

BEcause no one else wants to do the spot, obviously.

and injured more than a brittle boned girl and hes some god??

Again, little girls don't wrestle in the ME of a wrestling prmotion for 20 years straight before they get hurt do they?

Please tell me someone on this planet isnt fooled by this guy. Am I the only one out there who sees through this.

Sees through what? He doesn't claim to be anything other than a pro-wrestler, and since he actually does that, there's nothing to see through is there?

Please someone reply on this and show some courage.

I'm not hiding anything. I've got the courage to say you're a complete tool.

Also how does he get hot chicks??? Hes a very ugly man and I know thats not overlooked by everyone. Hes ugly and yet his fame and worship gets him hot chicks.

You ever heard of Hugh Hefner or Ron Jeremy? A man in his late 80s and a big fat guy? They fuck porn starts on a regular basis. What's your point?

Plus he thinks he can kick every mans butt alive in the real world.

Again, where did you get that from?

You don't like Taker? Fine, that's your opinion, but next time don't make a damn thread about it, you've simply opened yourself up to limitless abuse and mockery. Even the people who agree he's overrated are going to mock you for the piss poor points you've put across.

 

[DethMetal]

First off I know that this post is probably pointless because I have never seen anyone who agrees with me on this But I believe Mark Callaway is overrated and here is why.

Oh I can't wait to read this...

The thing that gets me is that he gets to be gone for months at a time and step right into the main event at WM. How is that fair? Everybody in the world worships this dude and I dont get it. Its like Vince and the 'boys in the back' bow down and worship this guy like he is the god of the world.

It's called respect for a man who's paid his dues and has had to deal with no talent hacks like Khali. He's worked his ass off for over 2 decades to reach the level and respect and grandeur and majesty he's obtained.

The streak has become overkill at this point . How does 1 man get this kind of rub??? Its a predetermined sport and this guy gets to have this kayfabe record. The fact that Mark Callaway hasnt insisted on his streak being ended proves hes a mark for his own fake gimmick.

You must have spoken to him, because I don't remember him saying that he wants the streak intact. It's Vince who cares so much about the streak, not Taker. He actually wanted to let Kane and Orton break it. Besides, you mention it being predetermined. So why aren't you moaning about Flair being a 16 time champion?

All you ever hear is how athletic he is. Umm ok hes tall , umm he can walk on a rope and jump down and hit a guys arm. Wow thats some John Morrison moves right there. Sarcasm anyone??

That may be the dumbest thing you've typed up here. How many 7ft tall men can do that?

He does the eye rolling and tongue sticking out and the dark music and oh yeah the tombstone, Wow my god what an athlete.

Do you even know what a gimmick is??

Basically hes a control freak and he has a high opinion of his self. I hate when every pro wrestler praises this guy. Longevity is good but this guy has taken how many vacations over the years?? Hes been buried alive like 5 times and injured more than a brittle boned girl and hes some god?? Please tell me someone on this planet isnt fooled by this guy. Am I the only one out there who sees through this.

You better not be an HBK fan spewing this garbage.

Please someone reply on this and show some courage. Also how does he get hot chicks??? Hes a very ugly man and I know thats not overlooked by everyone. Hes ugly and yet his fame and worship gets him hot chicks.

I knew there was a real reason for this thread. Besides, I'd take Mickie James over Michelle McStickfigure any day.

Plus he thinks he can kick every mans butt alive in the real world

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Once again, when did he say that? I think we can conclude that this is nothing more than pure molarkey. If us fans kiss the ground that man walks on, he deserves it. He's been in the biz for over 2 decades and has paid his dues. He deserves every ounce of props he gets.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

As I suspected I kinda knew this was gonna happen and only like 2 of you agreed with me. Big shock that all of you are drinking the Mark Callaway kool aid. Actually I do respect something about the guy, the fact that he took a lame 90's WWF gimmick and made all of you praise him in an unbelievable 20 year kayfabe career.

Can you find anyone else that can take a gimmick like that and make it work for twenty years? Didn't think so.

Also I knew someone was gonna mention the flying over the top rope bit and my reply to that is simply HOW MANY TIMES DID HE ACTUALLY EXCECUTE THAT MOVE???? He probably did that leap like maybe less than 5 times in his career.

How many Taker matches you have watched, kid?

Also this is the same guy that nearly crippled Michael Hickenbottom in that casket match. He does need to take some responsibilty because he backdropped him square onto his spine on that casket.

He must be the first person ever that "injured" somebody in a match.

To the person who said Orton refused to go over at Mania on him , well ifs that true Randy Orton is a loser. You dont pass that up , my guess is that Mark probably sneered and intimidated Randy into deciding not to get the win.

I couldn't read anything else past the word "sneered". If Orton didn't want to break the streak, then I don't blame him. Besides, he got two wins over Taker later that year.

I heard he scares the 'boys in the back' even guys like Paul Wight the Big Show are scared of him. Im telling you right now thats very pathetic to be that scared of another man.

You were probably scared of the Boogeyman as a kid weren't you? Or maybe you still are.

Im not saying the guy cant entertain because clearly he does that. But not every single person whos a WWE analyzer such as myself has to worship this guy and his career.

Mouthy Idiot, WWE Analyzer. How big is your cubicle?

Plus whoever said I wouldnt say this to his face well why would I??? The guy is a beast and there is no point because he wouldnt even do anything anyway. Hes not gonna attack a person right??? You all claim hes such a nice guy well how do you know that??

How do you know that he's not? Again, have you met Mark Callaway?

Remember Sara!!!!! She left the guy for a reason . Someone explain why she divorced him.

I hope you know that are reason couples get divorced other than spousal abuse or extramarital affairs. Why do you think Hollywood couples get divorced some of the time? Traveling schedules, too far apart, etc. I have a suggestion. Go find the divorce lawyer and obtain their divorce papers and post them on here.

To the people who said he is loyal and never left the company. Oh yeah you forget he started in WCW and got his big break in WWF and then when the monday night wars were going on he didnt jump to WCW so that means hes a good guy???

It shows that he's loyal to the company. Perhaps you didn't hear his promo when he turned heel after Survivor Series in 2001. It's on Youtube. You typed this long nonsensical post so you can look it up. You're a big boy.

Umm he had a contract with Vince and he didnt leave because why would bother leaving when hes making money and a top name. Dont compare his deal to Nash and Hall. Thats seperate deals. He probably couldnt leave even if he wanted.

You must be friends with Vince. Tell us what his house looks like. Do the cooks serve great food? How many bedrooms and bathrooms does he have?

By the way most of you keep neglecting the fact that half his success was fueled by the side characters of Paul Bearer and Kane which kept the UnderTaker gimmick running all that time.

Kane is nothing without the Undertaker. Why do you think everytime Kane is mentioned, it's always "Undertaker's little brother?" Kane is a much weaker Robin to Undertaker's Batman.

Why not praise them just as much. I can keep going on and on but none of you will accept my points. Plus dont judge me by my name on here. Thats a misnomer and yes I do know alot about the industry and NO im not some kid with a birthday laptop having fun. I have real opinions.

If you have ever some decent points, I would accept them. But you don't so I won't.

 

[ShadowBurn]

This has got to be one of the greatest threads I've ever read! I've never seen one post generate so much personal heat EVER.

For the record, I DO NOT agree with Mouthy Idiot (name applies so well here). I agree with most everything stated.

Undertaker is a GIMMICK, not an extension of the man himself. - 'nuff said

The respect he has, (or fear in MI's eyes) has been EARNED. If you do ANY job on THE PLANET for as long has he has, with the work ethic he has, you will earn the same type of respect, it just won't be publicized as much as Mark's is.

Everything else has been said.

Good Lord. The heat from this is Vickie Guerrero ish.

 

[Snoe]

First off, i completly disagree with the idiot. Second, a reason people wouldn`t beat the streak is for the fans. These people are entertainers and they know what works. Lets be honest if ANYBODY broke the streak a lot of people would stop watching. Besides it`s exciting seeing the promos and opponents, if the streak was broken, it wouldn`t matter

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

While 'Taker's one of the greatest wrestlers ever, I do agree that he's very overrated at this point in his career. I find it ridiculous that WWE still allows this man to write his own ticket even though he's past his prime and resting/nursing injuries for at least half of the calendar year.

 

[Hitman-HBK United Inc.]

QUOTE]I find it ridiculous that WWE still allows this man to write his own ticket even though he's past his prime and resting/nursing injuries for at least half of the calendar year.[/QUOTE]

And despite those injuries he still main evented a damn good 'Mania match with Shawn, and had an awesome math with Rey back in January. 'Taker IMO is the only GIANT who's ever had any really good matches with Mysterio.

The Undertaker is NOT overrated! Why because he's been the guy who's done, and been through it all. Vince can depend on him for just about anything. So he gets injured sometimes...big deal! When you've been going at it for 20 years, and trying to sell the product as hard as he has, it's going to happen. But what does he do? Despite being banged up, he still goes out there and gives everything he possibly can. Half the roster can't even do that HEALTHY!

I'm willing to admit, this day and age, he doesen't make the dent in the numbers that he used too, but he's still a value asset to the company, and he's still one of the most over superstars on the roster.

He was destined to be a true star. The fans CHOSE him, to be popular first off, nearly 20 years ago. He was already getting pops during his FIRST Wrestlemania match, when the streak didn't even exist. By the time he had some pretty good success against Warrior, he was ready for Hogan, and the crowd there was 60-40. I'm aware 'Taker at times has been the guy called upon to be a main event guy when the chips are down, but much like Bret, he helped keep things head above water, even if the company wasn't always drawing phenomenal numbers.

During the major down period in the mid 90's, 'Taker was a major mover in merch, and one of the most popular crowd attractions for the company alongside Bret. He gained a phenomneal following in a time where WWF needed big name babyfaces to move merch.
By 1997, he was forever a main eventer and nothing less. The Mankind feud took 'Taker to a whole new level, and showed people just how much he can hustle. He gets blamed for a lot of the stinkers of matches that he had in the early part of his career. But look at his opponents.....Kamala, Gonzales, Hughes, Berzerker, Shango, Yoko, Bundy, Kama, Mabel. I mean, what are you expecting??? And fans didn't want to see, or expect to see 'Taker in 5-star matches, they wanted to see him, beat down a guy who was much bigger than he was, it was his power that made him an attaction.

But back to '97, clearly he had to keep things fresh to still be a significant charachter, so he was being put with guys he could work with. Into 1997, he had a banner year with his matches against Bret, Shawn, another one with Mick, and Vader, all of which I have to say, were well above average. His dynamic in the ring had changed, he was becoming a little more human, but I think that let fans relate to him, and root for him more. And let's face it, he'd have to change his style if he's going to main event with guys a lot smaller than him too.

Some of you may say..."But this business is about money!". Well DUH! But besides his merch, lets look at these statistics. Now 1996 was a horrible year for PPV's, but next to 'Mania, the highest was the '96 Rumble, which drew a solid number. Now the Rumble more often than not, does draw. But the attraction of Bret/Taker on PPV, certainly enhanced the value of the event. The rest of the year, you couldn't blame 'Taker for the low numbers anymore than you could blame Shawn or whoever. The company as a whole was in bad shape...

In 1997, sadly, 'Taker has the dubious distinction of headlining the lowest drawing 'Mania of all time. However, the In Your House PPV's recieved a slight increase with 'Taker as champion, and Summerslam '97 with Bret, drew the WWF's highest number on PPV in well over a year at that point. Despite his and Shawn's first match drawing a dissapointing number, Hell in the Cell drew the highest of any In Your House PPV in a year and a half.
By '98, 'Taker was proving he can draw money. The feud with Kane had captured a lot of peoples attention, and while Austin/Michaels feat. Tyson was cleary the big draw at WM14, still, 'Taker/Kane made that card all the more interesting. And the subsuquent Inferno Match, helped Unforgiven draw a solid number. But people often forget..who helped Steve Austin draw some of the biggest money in his career?? Vince McMahon? Absolutely! The Rock?? For sure! But the feud with Vince wouldnt've worked as well of course, unless Vince was throwing the right guys at Austin to encounter. 'Taker was clearly that guy....

The buildup to Summerslam '98 was one of the most hyped non-'mania events ever to this day. The seeds were planted in late May, when 'Taker stood in Austin's corner during the FCA match with Foley. They spent three months making sure this was the epic confrontation it needed to be. They set a non-'Mania PPV record because of it. Think about it...the biggest star in wrestling in the world at the time vs. one of the industry's most recognizable and popular stars of the last decade...it couldn't fail. And it didn't.....

'Taker continued to do great business with Austin well into 1999.....but you culd see he was becoming horribly out of shape, and was dead exhausted. Thankfully he took some time off, and returned in 2000. Now the "American Badass" era, didn't produce much overly memorable outside of his matches with HHH, Flair and Lesnar. I will say that a lot of the stuff from 2000-03, was where a lot of people may have an arguement here. I'll say he didn't seem motivated for a lot of things and people questioned his "politiciking". Especially when it came to the Lesnar stuff.

But here's my view on that...with PPV biz starting to suffer in '02, they wanted to stretch out 'Taker/Lesnar (which didn't draw that much sadly), but I remember smarks throwing a hissy fit about 'Taker not jobbing at Unforgiven. Then they found flaws with his jobbing at No Mercy! Typical Smark "oh I need something to whine about", Vince still saw 'Taker as a commodity still, so obviously he was going to keep him going.
Around 2004, when 'Taker returned as the Deadman, people were just happy to see him playing the charachter again despite some ho-hum feuds with Booker, The Dudley's, JBL and last and most certainly least Heidenreich. But it seemed as though when the feud with Orton began, it lit a whole new fire under him. It seemed as tho he was bringing his game up to another level again, and had at least temporarily was able to stall his injuries.

Then into '06, he had a great match with Angle! Sadly had to contend with Mark Henry & the Great Khali for most of the year, but this isn't to say 'Taker didn't try his damndest to make them look good.

In 2007, he was ready to have a banner year....it didn't quite turn out that way, but man did him and Batista have some wicked chemistry or WHAT? Batista was suffering a backlash in terms of his match quality, but 'Taker lit a fire under him. Both at the beginning and end of the year. They also helped WM 23 earn a milion buys.

2008 was a good year for 'Taker as well, his feud with Edge occupied most of his time, and the produced some great battles, especially at WM24. But of course, 'Taker got stuck with Big Slow again. By '09, 'Taker had Shawn....need I say more? The feud with Punk was a huge dissapointment, but that was the company's fault, not 'Taker's nor Punk's. There match at Breaking Point ended just when they were really finding a common groove.

Of course we all know 2010, after a great match with Rey, epic feud and match with Shawn...he disappeared, had a horrid feud with Kane (like that's anything new), and is gone again.

I understand 'Taker taking some flack due to his difficulties to stay healthy, but to call him overrated, after everything he tries to do for the company, he's still busting his ass out there. 'Taker has enough star power to where he wouldn't even have too anymore, but he's STILL after 20 years, trying his damndest to give people what they want. Some eras of his career are better than others....but he always seemed to be making an impact somehow.

 

[therockiswwf]

The Word "Overrated" should be erased from the English language, because nobody knows how to use it without being 100% biased.

Look....I've said it before, and I will say it again. If millions and millions of people love a certain wrestler, but you don't....then YOU are the one that doesn't get it.

I could sit here all day and tell you why I am such a huge undertaker fan, but it won't change your opinion. Let's face it, you posted this thread to let off steem, not to hear other people's opinions.

Just live with the fact that this guy is a Wrestling pioneer and a future hall of famer, whether a user by the name of "Mouthy idiot" likes him or not....


Bye.

@OP
Your mad that he takes "vacations" all the time. Have you ever thought that he could be recovering from injuries. His body is not meant to do what he does and thus breaks down more. Infact, no one is supposed to do this to their body. He has wanted his streak to end vs kane the first time, and vs Orton) and both refused. Taker has stated he doesn't even like or care about the streak. Taker has been putting people over him for years (he lost cleanly to Kozlov, FUCKING KOZLOV). Wait a minute, did you complain about how he looks? (I don't know if you know this but if ANY guy have big money = gets hot chick + big boobs). Can you show me where/when he has ever stated he can, and I quote, " kick every mans butt alive in the real world." Taker is not overrated but you are just plain stupid.

 

[Tech N9ne]

I'll start by saying, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

But as far as his career goes and what not. He is respected by basically EVERYONE he has ever encountered in the business. That has to be saying something. Generally, there are guys that have some people feel this way about him, and then other people feel a whole different way about him.

When it comes to Undertaker, though, it is a pretty general opinion that he is talented, respected, humble (as one could be), and more important than anything, loves the business for which he puts his body on the line for.

He can be out for months and come back to Main Event Wrestlemania, because first of all, he was injured and it would hurt WWE to have one of their biggest stars miss the biggest show of the year. Secondly, he has no reason to be punished and NOT Main Event Wrestlemania, just because he was injured. Third, people WANT to see him.

It is almost like this rant was based on Taker doing whatever he wants, and forcing himself into the Main Event, out of some ego drivin' tirade.

I hate threads like these, because they are always so based on someone's off the wall opinion that isn't even based on facts. They are nonsense-drivin' assaults to our eyes.

 

[Midgetmania619]

Now, when Edge spoke about Eddies death, he mentioned Taker, and said he was the only guy left he could speak to after Chris and Guerrero died.

Also, Edge said his favourite WrestleMania moment, off all of his, strangely wasn't what got him into wrestling (Hogan vs Warrior) but his very own match against The Undertaker.
Click HERE to see the video where Edge says his favourite WM moment was going against Undertaker, how he was so nervous he wouldn't be able to step up to Undertaker's game that his arms were numb during his entrance.

 

[itssoeasy123]

If Undertaker is overrated, then every other legend in the WWE,AWA,NWA,WCW are overrated.

Undertaker is ,bar none, one of the most repected, talented, and greatest legend's WWE has ever had.

He's career has spanned nearly two decades. H'es one of them ost loyal men ever in WWE.

Even though being hurt most of the last 4 or so year's, his Wresltemania matches are still sometime's the best or second best match's of the night. He still deliver's no matter what the cost.

He is definate future Hall of Famer and a all around legend in the business.

To say he is overrated is just pure disrespect and devalue of a man as legendary of Undertaker.

 

[The Tombstone]

Undertaker is NOT overrated! If Undertaker is, Bret Hart is. If Undertaker is, HBK is. If Undertaker is, Vince McMahon is!

The point is, Undertaker is not overrated, and if he is, he deserves it.

The Undertaker has had one of the best careers ever, and he is not overrated... sorry if I sound kinda mean, but this is ALL true. He is not overrated.

 

[TCBT]

If you're a young teenager or just recently started to watch wrestling, then I can agree with your rant. (And no, I'm not knocking teenagers.)

Here's the thing: Undertaker has done so much for professional wrestling. When he started out, big men like him were NOT supposed to do flips in the air, or fly through the ropes, or balance himself on top of it. He brought a style the newer generations of fans have the priviledge to watch regularly.

Another thing: his character. He took his Undertaker character so seriously, we believed it to be true. Do you know how goofy 'The Undertaker' character could've been if done by someone else?? That could've been a massive failure. Let's not forget that every other wrestling organization, including WWE itself, has tried in some shape, way, or form to copy the Undertaker character. He's stood the test of time, and that alone should garner some respect.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

If you're a young teenager or just recently started to watch wrestling, then I can agree with your rant. (And no, I'm not knocking teenagers.)

Here's the thing: Undertaker has done so much for professional wrestling. When he started out, big men like him were NOT supposed to do flips in the air, or fly through the ropes, or balance himself on top of it. He brought a style the newer generations of fans have the priviledge to watch regularly.

Another thing: his character. He took his Undertaker character so seriously, we believed it to be true. Do you know how goofy 'The Undertaker' character could've been if done by someone else?? That could've been a massive failure. Let's not forget that every other wrestling organization, including WWE itself, has tried in some shape, way, or form to copy the Undertaker character. He's stood the test of time, and that alone should garner some respect.

This is so true, when i was younger ( during the ministry/corporate ministry era) i really felt like he was a true badass satan worshiper. No one can pull that off anymore, they tried to do it with the Boogyeman and it was an epic fail. They tried it with Gangrel another failed attempt. they tried twice with Kevin Fertig (Mordecai, Kevin Thorn) and it failed. TNA tried somewhat with the Disciples of the New Church. Even in the old WCW some could argue that the dungeon of doom could have been modeled after the Undertaker.

so what i'm saying its that the Undertaker is often immitated and not dupplicated because of the sheer respect the character has achieved.

 

[SSJPhenom]

Mouthy Idiot this is to you.

I wish I had have been online when you first created this thread. I seriously would have tore you from asshole to elbow. However, it seems that I'm a bit late and every point that could be made on the subject has been made. But, if you still wanna talk about it reply to my post and I'll show you how utterly ridiculous you are as a wrestling fan.

I have to say something on the topic of the thread or my post will be considered spam.

Undertaker is not overrated. Let's think about this. He is the Undertaker! Not Randy Orton, not Edge, not John Cena. A valid argument could be made for those guys being overrated. Hell, a valid argument could be made for HHH being overrated, but I won't go there because I respect him.

He is athletic. Walking on the top rope isn't the only thing in his bag of tricks. He has flying clotheslines, in the past he jumped of the top rope quite often, and let's not forget the iconic and impressive near 7 foot tall man diving over the top rope.

He is revered and praised back stage because he is respected and he deserves that damn respect.

He is a control freak? Really? Let's see, he was there for about 7 years before HHH got there and he is only a 7 time Champion to HHH's 13 times. See where I'm going?

About the streak. He's wanted it to end one time that I'm sure of and another time that is rumored. Randy Orton was almost begged by 'Taker and others to take the win at 'Mania and Orton refused. I'll say again, ORTON REFUSED! I've also heard it reported that 'Taker wanted to lose to Edge, however, I'm not sure on that one.

He is put in a marque match at 'Mania because his match sells every year. That's why he can come out of nowhere and be in the special attraction at 'Mania. He's someone that people will pay to see.

I hope that you respond. I would love this.

 

[Jay85]

I do feel that it is time for him to retire, but I wouldn't say over-rated. Also, what does his looks have to do with anything? Seems petty to mention. Also, Cain Velasquez has nothing to do with Undertaker. They are two very different businesses. In a time when gimmicks have all but disappeared, the "Deadman" still manages to get a reaction from people, and that deserves some credit.

 

[Suibon]

Mark 'The Undertaker' Calaway is overrated. So you say.

Let me say this first - I don't know about you, but if you have worked your ass off for twenty years and counting, if you have been a loyal employee for the past two decades, then you have every right in the world to demand respect and admiration and as many vacations as you want, especially if you are working for a wrestling company, where somewhere along the line you are bound to get injured even if it's all predetermined. So stop crying about a streak that hasn't ended, maybe will never end - he fully deserves it, more than any other wrestler the WWE has or has had on its roster. If you were an employer and you don't even give your most loyal, most slavish employee even the semblance of a reward for all his deeds over the years, then I can't care less about your accomplishments: you are simply inhuman, and I shall be obliged to stay away from you.

But before I continue, let me ask you this, Mouthy Idiot (why would you give yourself such an embarrassing username?), are we talking about Mark Calaway the person or Mark Calaway the wrestler? If you're talking about the person, then I have nothing to say that would not be from Wikipedia or from some other source; it could be that you know Mark Calaway, and that Mark Calaway really is a dickwad, despite the opinion of most other sources, so I prefer to say nothing about him as a person. If not, then I have much more to say and much more to show - but I won't show them till you reply to this post specifically as a sign that at least you have read this in detail and have taken note of my criticism towards you.

Good day.
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[Hollywood Naitch]

This is an utterly stupid thread, by a poster with a completely correct username. You ARE a mouthy idiot.

The Undertaker is not overrated. He has done more for the WWE than almost any other perfomer in history. The amount of respect that he commands backstage is testemant to how highly the other wrestlers think of this man.

No other perfomer has been able to pull of a gimmick so unrealistic but make the people believe in it for as long as Undertaker has, he has feuded with almost all the top wrestlers to come through the company over the last 20 years and even at last years WM, he was STILL able to put on a classic match even though his body is falling apart at his age.

Yes, he is not able to perform regularly to the level he could even just a few years ago, but come on he is in his late 40s now. You don't see any professional athlete remain at their peak that long. The fact that he is still high on the card whenever he appears is because of the fact he CAN still turn it on when required, and there is noone who gets a bigger pop from the fans that The Deadman. They love him, and will continue to do so until the day he retires.

The streak? It is legendary, and the fact it still exists is because Vince McMahon knows how iconic it is, and how it adds to the mythical Undertaker character. He respects Callaway for his loyalty to the company, as Mark never deserted to WCW like Hall, Nash, Luger etc for more money when the going got tough in the mid 90s. If Undertaker had shown any interest in WCW, Bischoff would have signed him in a heartbeat, but Callaway is a very loyal man and stayed with the company that made him a star. The streak is a reward for this, and is now a WM institution. It may be broken one day, but I hope it is not.

And you are complaining about him taking time off for injuries? Let me remind you of something. Throughout his career, Undertaker has taken very little time off for injuries apart from the last few years, when his body is breaking down. Apart from a few major injuries, which every wrestler suffers at some point (even Austin, Triple H, Angle, HBK, Mysterio, Edge, Orton etc) Undertaker is well known for conitinuing to work through the pain. Did you know he wrestled the HIAC match with Mankind with a broken foot? Do you not remember seeing him in the "phantom of the opera" style mask while recovering from a broken cheekbone? The Undertaker did not take days off for injuries, unless he had physically could not continue. The injuries are mounting up at his advanced age, but look past his recent injuries and you will see a man who has worked past the pain barrier on so many occasions, and that is why people respect the guy.

Show the man some fucking respect for what he has done to entertain you, me and everybody else for 20+ fucking years. He does not need to keep on wrestling, he is a very wealthy man with a gorgeous wife and still does what he does for a love of the business, and he has proven time and again what a phenomenal perfomer he is. A HOF certainty, one of the all time greats, and a man who deserves respect and thanks from every wrestling fan for everything he has done for the business.

A fucking legend

 

[Xemmy]

You're username is incrediblely perfect.

The Undertaker has earned his worship and praise. He's a company man, the greatest gimmick of all time, best entrance of all time, an 8-time world champion, a top draw, and has had the match of the year 3 times. The Undertaker has worked his ass off over the years and has been a cornerstone for WWE. Him being willing to lose his streak had nothing to do with his gimmick. He wanted to lose it once upon a time to help put Orton over. Orton refused to do it. And in my personal opinion, all these things add up to make him the greatest of all time.

The Undertaker is a living legend regardless of what you say. Who the fuck gives a damn about his personal life? Did he kick your ass in a dark alley once upon a time?

Oh, and The Natural gets points for owning you in detail.

MigetMania619 too.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

The Undertaker has earned his worship and praise. He's a company man, the greatest gimmick of all time, best entrance of all time, an 8-time world champion, a top draw, and has had the match of the year 3 times. The Undertaker has worked his ass off over the years and has been a cornerstone for WWE. Him being willing to lose his streak had nothing to do with his gimmick. He wanted to lose it once upon a time to help put Orton over. Orton refused to do it.

Glad you agree. Undertaker has never been against doing a job. The reason he hasnt lost that much over the years is because of the character he is portraying. As he is meant to be an undead unstoppable force, he cannot lose that often or the character will lose its mystique.

Going back to your comment regarding Taker offering to lose the streak to Orton. I remember reading in The Rocks' autobiography about the time he was told he would be getting a win over Undertaker, but HOW he would win was down to the Deadman (The Rock was still new at this time). He went up to Undertaker and offered to win by DQ asking if Taker was ok losing, and Undertaker replied "Absolutely, its your turn and it's your time", and then said Rock should win with his finisher, to gain maximum exposure.

Undertaker will always do business. He is too smart a guy, and has been through tough times with the WWE to understand what needs to be done for the sake of the company and its future.

Oh, and The Natural gets points for owning you in detail.

Haha, thank you

 

[nwocongo]

Lets not forget he's almost 50 lets see any other middle aged 6"10 man look athletic. He can come back and be an intstant main eventer because he's been a roster staple since the early 90's. 20 years ago he was very athletic for his size which tells me you haven't been a fan long if you forgot about his early days. Sure now he's overrated because he's been getting beat on for 20 years, I don't think he's been 100% since the Corporate Ministry, he seemed a bit off when he returned from that injury. But yeah like I said if you can't recognize one of the top 5 (easily) wrestlers in WWE history you probably haven't been watching too long.