Live Discussion: RAW 7/28/2008

[Y2J and Lionheart]

bryanskrantz has a good hope going. with admale gone to be raw's gm joey styles could get his job as ecw commentator back .

FINALLY THE VOICE OF ECW WILL BE BACK

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Since we were all expecting Regal to come back as GM...if this was truly a master setup by Vince...was the Regal suspension a hoax?

 

[superunknown012]

bryanskrantz has a good hope going. with admale gone to be raw's gm joey styles could get his job as ecw commentator back .

FINALLY THE VOICE OF ECW WILL BE BACK

Definitely do not see that happening at all. From all accounts I hear Styles is incredibly happy with his position at WWE.com - plus he hated announcing "WWECW".

My guess is Todd Grisham getting the move to ECW seeing as he was randomly seen talking to Shane tonight backstage - that and they don't have anything better to do with him these days.

 

[Y2J and Lionheart]

Definitely do not see that happening at all. From all accounts I hear Styles is incredibly happy with his position at WWE.com - plus he hated announcing "WWECW".

My guess is Todd Grisham getting the move to ECW seeing as he was randomly seen talking to Shane tonight backstage - that and they don't have anything better to do with him these days.

yea but i and others can dream can;t we

 

[justinsayne]

gotta love the look on Batista & Cena's faces, LOL

 

[Save_US.619]

Worst decision ever. I would rather have Adamle as the ECW commentator because he makes me laugh. "Jamaicanmecrazy" LOL.

 

[wwe1581]

I think it'd be great if he just slapped it to everyone who has made fun of him and put him down.
I mean he has really improved since he started he's almost better than Cole right now. (Not saying too much) but i think he's entertaining
Like tonight J.R. just dismissing anything he says and then JBL tellin him he should be on Home Shopping Network?

Adamle Make Them Pay!

 

[dvayne]

Since we were all expecting Regal to come back as GM...if this was truly a master setup by Vince...was the Regal suspension a hoax?

I was thinking the same thing I just watched a Raw from May when Regal was GM and he had JR replaced with Adamle to call a a handicap match between The Burchills vs a jobber. I doubt they ever think that far ahead but with the roles reversed now maybe they could have an alliance with Adamle giving Regal a push towards the ME (giving him a match with Punk last night) and the Burchills didn't show up in Koi's match for once maybe they'll start an alliance with Regal with the GM backing them since Regal showed him respect when he was GM

 

[Slowdude]

Adamle. How gay
Cena vs Batista. How gay.
My idea of a 5-6 man match for the WHC at Summerslam over. How gay
A match they could of teased for a few months is now being taken to summerslam after 2 weeks. Wow. I would of enjoyed Punk vs JBl vs Cena vs JBl vs Kane vs Someone else maybe with cena/batista fucking both there chances up during the match or something. Summerslam now sounds more boring then it did last week (Yay khali vs hhh, Matt hardy vs Mark Henry.)

 

[Papa Shango]

slowdude insulting anything that wasn't his idea. How gay.

 

[schoondog]

Jesus Christ the internet smarks are so pissy about everything. Already boycotting WWE because of... the GM. Not the champion, not a tasteless angle, but because they don't like the GM. You know what? Tough shit. The kinds of fans who shit on angles before hey even happen, are the kinds of fans who can't be pleased. They already have their minds made on what the show should be, who should be the champions, and who should be in the main events. And anything that's different from what they want is shit. They assume WWE makes half-assed decisions every time, and it doesn't even occur to them that WWE could have been stringing us along for weeks now. I'm not surprised though, seeing as those types of fans can't even seem to comprehend that even the simplest match outcomes are decided beforehand. WWE doesn't want those kind of one-track mind viewers anyway. So they can go watch Ring of Hacks, the rest of us will test the waters. I won't even mind too much if Adamle does turn out to be a bust. At least they're trying new and interesting things. What was the last new, interesting thing ROH tried? The Age of the Fall? That got old by the third twenty-minute Jimmy Jacobs Youtube rant.

It's mike "blanking" adamle they might as well gave the job to kelly kelly, atleast she would of been nice to look at and is just as dumb.

 

[dvayne]

Adamle. How gay
Cena vs Batista. How gay.
My idea of a 5-6 man match for the WHC at Summerslam over. How gay
A match they could of teased for a few months is now being taken to summerslam after 2 weeks. Wow. I would of enjoyed Punk vs JBl vs Cena vs JBl vs Kane vs Someone else maybe with cena/batista fucking both there chances up during the match or something. Summerslam now sounds more boring then it did last week (Yay khali vs hhh, Matt hardy vs Mark Henry.)

It's called being inivative ppl bitch when it's predictable and they still bitch if it wasn't how they wanted it

As far as the WHC match goes you can still have a six man match to make CM Punk look like a dominating fighting champion

CM Punk vs JBL vs Kane vs Jericho vs Regal vs Cade

with the Batista vs Cena match being for # 1 contender at Unforgiven

That way u have two huge Raw matches and two huge Smackdown matches to draw viewers

 

[Papa Shango]

Are you saying that Mike Adamle isn't nice to look at? I think he looks pretty damn good for a 60-year-old.

And what's with the "But it's Mike Adamle" line of reasoning? Is that the only thing people can come up with as to why they're against this angle? What about Triple H? How well does the arguement of "But how can it possibly be any good, it's the Connecticut Blue Blood?" hold up? Or Stone Cold? Think of the number of people who ended up kicking themselves after saying "But how can this angle possibly be any good, it's The Ringmaster,"? Or what if people doubted the decision to turn Vince McMahon, face commentator, into Mr. McMahon, evil owner? After the Screwjob, people hated McMahon. So Vinnie Mac said "Hell, they hate me anyway, let's use it." The fans turned Vince into an evil owner, they turned Rocky Maivia into the Rock, they turned Stone Cold face, and they may very well turn hopeless idiot "The Adamle" into ruthless, manipulative General Manager Adamle. If the fans already hate him, then they might as well give the fans a real reason to hate him.

 

[superunknown012]

Are you saying that Mike Adamle isn't nice to look at? I think he looks pretty damn good for a 60-year-old.

Awesome. Half considering adding that to my sig.

 

[schoondog]

Are you saying that Mike Adamle isn't nice to look at? I think he looks pretty damn good for a 60-year-old.

And what's with the "But it's Mike Adamle" line of reasoning? Is that the only thing people can come up with as to why they're against this angle? What about Triple H? How well does the arguement of "But how can it possibly be any good, it's the Connecticut Blue Blood?" hold up? Or Stone Cold? Think of the number of people who ended up kicking themselves after saying "But how can this angle possibly be any good, it's The Ringmaster,"? Or what if people doubted the decision to turn Vince McMahon, face commentator, into Mr. McMahon, evil owner? After the Screwjob, people hated McMahon. So Vinnie Mac said "Hell, they hate me anyway, let's use it." The fans turned Vince into an evil owner, they turned Rocky Maivia into the Rock, they turned Stone Cold face, and they may very well turn hopeless idiot "The Adamle" into ruthless, manipulative General Manager Adamle. If the fans already hate him, then they might as well give the fans a real reason to hate him.

What does the conecicut blue blood, the ringmaster and mike adamle have in common? they all sucked or as in the case of adamle he sucks. So unless adamle becomes a genius overnight or unless all his segments are taped backstage so they can do 50 retakes and edit them into one reasonable segment this is doomed to fail. They might as well of brought in david arquette as the new general manager.

 

[Papa Shango]

Thank you. I appreciate that the part of my speech that jumped out at you the most was the joke at the beginning.

 

[Sparky]

 

[superunknown012]

Well ya know - after 2 AM my attention span isn't quite as long as it'd be during the day.

 

[Frank the Frowner]

What does the conecicut blue blood, the ringmaster and mike adamle have in common? they all sucked or as in the case of adamle he sucks.

How close-minded can a person be? With your line of thinking, HHH and Austin apparently would have been released 6 months into their WWE runs. There's no use even arguing why Adamle has so much potential with you.

 

[Papa Shango]

What does the conecicut blue blood, the ringmaster and mike adamle have in common? they all sucked or as in the case of adamle he sucks. So unless adamle becomes a genius overnight or unless all his segments are taped backstage so they can do 50 retakes and edit them into one reasonable segment this is doomed to fail.

So what you're saying is that HHH and Steve Austin succeeded because they magically became good? No, they were always good, they just weren't quite being used the way they should have. A gimmick change was all that was required to take these men from go-nowhere midcarders to legends.This could very well be Adamle's transformation from "Ringmaster" to "Stone Cold". But you're too thick-headed and pessimistic to think that way. I suppose you still insist that Randy Orton's transformation from underdog face to Legend Killer was a waste, or that taking Edge from "goofy mid-carder" to "Rated-R Superstar" didn't pay off for either him or the fans.

 

[Papa Shango]

Well ya know - after 2 AM my attention span isn't quite as long as it'd be during the day.

Fair enough.

 

[Prince Punk]

Papa Shango i want to ask you a question.. Why in the blue hell should anyone find mike adamle as a good gm i mean how could someone hated by the fans yet going into a job as a tweener possibly be any good?

i mean after JBL taunting him thats an automatic spot for some ass kissing next week from JBL
batista and Cena are not all that happy atm
As someone already mentioned regal and the burchills could cross paths
honestly i would not be suprised to see a regal vs punk for the world title
The announce team does not like mike as it was he who put cole in the tag match.....
They will make him what they want however and if they want to make him a heel gm they can easily make people hate him more than they did Eric and possibly even Vince...
hell I don't think anyone could have thought of him as an actual canadite for GM of Raw maybe only as a joke i know i didnt see it coming and i wana see where it goes....

They gave the credit for the show booked tonight to adamle and he was playing hard ball. people are saying well only if his segments are pretaped will they be good. why? the mans good on the mic just because he has no idea what a cradle is does not mean that he does not know how to speak i mean honestly.

 

[schoondog]

How close-minded can a person be? With your line of thinking, HHH and Austin apparently would have been released 6 months into their WWE runs. There's no use even arguing why Adamle has so much potential with you.

hold on there buckwheat. Ok, whats the difference between steve austin and HHH vs mike adamle? austin and HHH had talent and were stuck in bad gimmicks were as adamle just plain sucks.


As for people bringing up how this whole adamle acting like he doesn't know whats going on and its all an act, i don't believe it. You can't act that stupid and make it beliveable.


I suppose if the united states elected paris hilton as president, you'd say but wait theres so much potential on where this may lead. Speaking of which what potential does he have?

 

[Papa Shango]

Papa Shango i want to ask you a question.. Why in the blue hell should anyone find mike adamle as a good gm

Why do some people think cucumbers taste better pickled? Why does someone born and raised in NYC root for the Red Sox? Better yet... Why ihe blue hell should anyone find CM Punk as a good World Heavyweight Champion?

i mean how could someone hated by the fans yet going into a job as a tweener possibly be any good?

When Vince McMahon started to go from commentator to owner, he started out as a tweener. It took him several months to become a full fledged heel.

i mean after JBL taunting him thats an automatic spot for some ass kissing next week from JBL

I'm looking forward to seeing that.

batista and Cena are not all that happy atm

Which is how most faces are when there is a heel GM in power.

As someone already mentioned regal and the burchills could cross paths

Or work together with Adamle, it's too early to tell.

honestly i would not be suprised to see a regal vs punk for the world title

I look forward to seeing that as well. I am yet to see a disappointing Regal/Punk match, most likely because, win or lose, Punk gets te holy hell beaten out of him.

The announce team does not like mike as it was he who put cole in the tag match.....

Great motivation to have the announcers put Adamle over as a heel.

They will make him what they want however and if they want to make him a heel gm they can easily make people hate him more than they did Eric and possibly even Vince...

We are in agreement then. What I am saying, however, is that should an Adamle heel run go bad, i can easily be retconned, and we can go back to the Beetle Bailey-esque Adamle with the golden comedy segments, and because he's so "incompetent",anarchy can still reign supreme.

hell I don't think anyone could have thought of him as an actual canadite for GM of Raw

Which is why the shock of it may prove to be valuable to the WWE.

maybe only as a joke i know i didnt see it coming and i wana see where it goes....

Just like potentially millions of other viewers.

They gave the credit for the show booked tonight to adamle and he was playing hard ball. people are saying well only if his segments are pretaped will they be good. why? the mans good on the mic just because he has no idea what a cradle is does not mean that he does not know how to speak i mean honestly.

Well, it's like I was saying, him being crap on the mic may have been a work. BUT, if he really is that bad on the mic, he's at least good in backstage segments, and since the GM job doesn't neccessarily have to entail live appearances, Adamle is spared much of his usual humiliation.

If WWE is thinking out ths angle as clearly as I am, then they probably have ALL their bases covered.

 

[Papa Shango]

hold on there buckwheat. Ok, whats the difference between steve austin and HHH vs mike adamle? austin and HHH had talent and were stuck in bad gimmicks were as adamle just plain sucks.

Hold on there, Alfalfa. How do you know that Adamle sucks? How do you know that his ineptitude wasn't just a work? I mean, he has a long, long, LONG list of creditials in his field, he can't have been just LUCKY his entire career, could he?

As for people bringing up how this whole adamle acting like he doesn't know whats going on and its all an act, i don't believe it. You can't act that stupid and make it beliveable.

Although, there is the off chance that this guy who has appeared in front of television screens since my mom was a little girl, can... you know... ACT.

I suppose if the united states elected paris hilton as president, you'd say but wait theres so much potential on where this may lead. Speaking of which what potential does he have?

That's a ridiulous anology. Paris Hilton wouldn't run for president. Just the other day she was talking about how she doesn't think it's a good idea to have a female president. Also, even if she wanted to run for president, she'd have to wait until she was 35, and would need previous experience holding a political position (insert sex joke here). In that time, it is possible that she could learn enough about politics and global affairs to create a solid platform on which to run. Then, should she be elected to Oval Office, she would have been put in that position by the voters (or audience) and not the Senate (or Creative Team).


I win