Insert Pithy Name Here........An Impactful LD!

[Ambiguous Turd]

I see RVDgurl is in the thread. I appreciate your Rep from earlier. See, I can compliment Danielson.

 

[klunderbunker]

Steinermath is awesome.

It is my second favorite comedy promo ever after Kane, Rock, and Hogan. Nothing will ever beat Kane, Rock, and Hogan.

I remember that one. I cracked up.

 

[RVDgurl]

This was just one bad night....I hope. It wasn't even that bad, it was just devoid of wrestling.....and planning.

A wrestling show devoid of wrestling....hmmmm......

Is it bad that I am marking out to see Hogan and Flair in the ring together?

Not at all. I used to mark out for Hogan/Flair back in 1991.

Also, I am wondering why they are building an Abyss/AJ feud when he still needs to fight The Pope.

Because Hogan loves Abyss. I'm sure he think Pope is too small to be good.

Why are we not getting Hogan/Pope/Abyss vs. Flair/AJ/Nigel?

In an actual wrestling match? I could get behind that.

 

[FromTheSouth]

The power of the Hulkamaniacs, and the millions (and millions) of the Rock's fans, and all the Kananites (cue Rocks nonverbal skills).....

 

[RVDgurl]

I see RVDgurl is in the thread. I appreciate your Rep from earlier. See, I can compliment Danielson.

I do ****e out my rep for anyone who speaks highly of Danielson. It put a smile on my face to be able to rep you for doing so.

 

[X]

Eh, not sure if I would say that. I mean let's face it, Flair knew he'd be wrestling in TNA. If he didn't, he wouldn't have signed a "wrestling contract" and his contract would only be for appearances, not physically wrestling in the ring.

Flair knew what he was doing.

He's contractually obligated to follow Hogan in any wrestling endeavors he takes part in. He had no choice about coming to TNA. Hogan wanted to go to TNA, Flair was legally obligated to follow.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

It's just disappointing that Flair got such a huge sendoff like he did, and the WWE will probably never do it again now when it's time for guys like HBK and The Undertaker to retire because of the fact that he's wrestling now in TNA, two years later.

And if they approached Flair with the idea to wrestle, and he declined, they would have respected his wishes.

He's contractually obligated to follow Hogan in any wrestling endeavors he takes part in. He had no choice about coming to TNA. Hogan wanted to go to TNA, Flair was legally obligated to follow.

That's fine. I doubt he's legally obligated to wrestle though.

 

[FromTheSouth]

A wrestling show devoid of wrestling....hmmmm......

Not the first or last time that will ever happen, I promise.

Not at all. I used to mark out for Hogan/Flair back in 1991.

You were just a baby in 1991. I actually remember it. If they could bring in Sid though, they might have something.

Because Hogan loves Abyss. I'm sure he think Pope is too small to be good.

My God, I love The Pope.

In an actual wrestling match? I could get behind that.

Minimize Hogan and Flair and let Pope be Ricky Morton to two offensive innovators. That has 25 minutes and ***3/4 written all over it.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

He's contractually obligated to follow Hogan in any wrestling endeavors he takes part in. He had no choice about coming to TNA. Hogan wanted to go to TNA, Flair was legally obligated to follow.

Yeah, but at the same time, following Hogan to TNA and actually "wrestling" for TNA are two different things. I think Flair is more than happy to be wrestling. Means more money for him.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I do ****e out my rep for anyone who speaks highly of Danielson. It put a smile on my face to be able to rep you for doing so.

I was impressed too.


In all honesty, was Jericho not the perfect opponent to debut him against? If anyone is willing to let the young guy look good in defeat it's Jericho (or Kane, they are the two most valuable guys on the roster) and it looked great for what it was. I am excited for Danielson.

 

[X]

Yeah, but at the same time, following Hogan to TNA and actually "wrestling" for TNA are two different things. I think Flair is more than happy to be wrestling. Means more money for him.

Oh yeah I'm not saying Flair doesn't want to wrestle, he definitely does, it's why he reached out to ROH and why he agreed to wrestle on the Hulkamania tour. I'm just saying that technically Flair really didn't have a choice about coming to TNA.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

It's just disappointing that Flair got such a huge sendoff like he did, and the WWE will probably never do it again now when it's time for guys like HBK and The Undertaker to retire because of the fact that he's wrestling now in TNA, two years later.

And if they approached Flair with the idea to wrestle, and he declined, they would have respected his wishes.

It is a shame that Flair did receive that sendoff only for him to continue, but this is Flair we are talking about and WWE should have known better.

Truth is I think they wanted him out more than he wanted to quit wrestling. I think they weren't satisfied with his performance in the ring and wanted him to retire. He just wasn't ready to retire, though.

That's fine. I doubt he's legally obligated to wrestle though.

Yeah, I don't think he's legally obligated to either. He just had to follow Hogan to whatever organization he goes to. And that was fine by Flair, because Flair knew damn well Hogan was going to TNA from the get-go.

 

[RVDgurl]

Not the first or last time that will ever happen, I promise.

I know this. I don't like it, but I know it.

You were just a baby in 1991. I actually remember it. If they could bring in Sid though, they might have something.

Sweetie, I'm older than you.

My God, I love The Pope.

I dig the Pope, too. TNA did great things for him. I'm nervous that Hogan is going to waste his talents like McMahon did.

Minimize Hogan and Flair and let Pope be Ricky Morton to two offensive innovators. That has 25 minutes and ***3/4 written all over it.

Could be.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Oh yeah I'm not saying Flair doesn't want to wrestle, he definitely does, it's why he reached out to ROH and why he agreed to wrestle on the Hulkamania tour. I'm just saying that technically Flair really didn't have a choice about coming to TNA.

Yeah, I agree with that part. But I think he was fine in going to TNA, because he was aware of that from the get-go when he signed with Hogan that this was going to happen. If Flair had a problem with going to TNA, I'm sure he would have never signed on.

So Flair is happy, Hogan is happy, TNA is happy to have him .... and Vince .... well is probably not surprised.

 

[FromTheSouth]

I know this. I don't like it, but I know it.

Still though, it wasn't even that bad of a show. It was just disappointing in light of how good i has been.

Sweetie, I'm older than you.

Really? I'll be 28 next month, and I feel elderly around here.

I dig the Pope, too. TNA did great things for him. I'm nervous that Hogan is going to waste his talents like McMahon did.

Hogan's already done more with him than Vince ever did. TNA is the perfect place for two former WWE guys - Pope and Kennedy. The style and the freedom just suits them so much better.

Could be.

[cheesy] you have ***** written all over you. [/cheesy]

I met a girl over the weekend and resisted saying things like that. I had to get that out of my system.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

FTS, what was your issues with Impact tonight? Just a quick bullet point summary, if you don't mind. I think it's been about the same each week since January. It's lost a couple steps since the 4th, but I don't mind since they are going to Mondays permanently ... and because they are also saving some surprises for the 8th, more than likely.

 

[FromTheSouth]

Here you go Sid.

1. The Nastyz have overstayed their welcome and are no longer nostalgic.
2. ODB sucks at life.
3. The Hogan/Bischoff inconsistencies are glaring at me.
4. Jarrett doesn't deserve this bullshit booking.
5. I can't even suspend disbelief for this garbage.
6. There hasn't been one match I care about.
7. Abyss is being booked badly.
8. Eric Young is not at the appropriate level to be involved in an angle involving the nWo
9. The opening promo with Flair and AJ is the only good part of the show so far.
10. No Pope
11. Not enough AJ
12. We're fighting and that hurts me deep inside.
13. No Beautiful People.
14. Too much Bischoff
15. Tenay sucks.


That was a nice shoot about guest hosts.

16. Foley has gotten annoying.
17. I don't want to see Morgan and Hernandez split up yet because there isn't much for them to do in singles.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Here you go Sid.

1. The Nastyz have overstayed their welcome and are no longer nostalgic.

They looked awful tonight. I'd rather they be kept to mostly non wrestling and just causing trouble. I say get rid of Hall and Syxx-pac and let the Nastys take over that role.

2. ODB sucks at life.

She's okay. Definitely different and needs better booking, that's for sure.

3. The Hogan/Bischoff inconsistencies are glaring at me.

I don't take issue with them, yet. It makes their relationship unique. It isn't clear cut Face/Heel. And it also makes me wonder where Dixie stands in all of this.

4. Jarrett doesn't deserve this bullshit booking.

He probably is better served flipping burgers than being booked as a Main Eventer, tbh.

5. I can't even suspend disbelief for this garbage.

I'd rather suspend disbelief for this than sit through 2 hours of Raw.

6. There hasn't been one match I care about.

They didn't put on great matches, I admit. However, to be honest, I would rather them save their big matches for PPV's. That is the mistake WWE makes, and they wonder why they have a stale main event problem. I want something to get excited over once a month.

7. Abyss is being booked badly.

No doubt about it. I only hope he turns into a Monster at the end of this crap.

8. Eric Young is not at the appropriate level to be involved in an angle
involving the nWo

Again, I agree with you 100%.

9. The opening promo with Flair and AJ is the only good part of the show so far.

I actually didn't care for it. Flair is just way too over the top when he acts like that. I don't find him funny at all when he goes all psycho all the time.

10. No Pope

They have too much talent for one show.

11. Not enough AJ

I disagree with that one. He was out twice this evening. That's enough.

12. We're fighting and that hurts me deep inside.

We aren't fighting. I agree on some things you are saying and disagree on some others.

13. No Beautiful People.

Again, they have too much talent for a 2 hour show. At the same time, that helps prevent them from getting stale like on Raw and Smackdown.

14. Too much Bischoff

I agree on this one. He appeared way too much this week.

15. Tenay sucks.

Yep. I hope they can both him and Taz and have a new announce team in place by the 8th.

That was a nice shoot about guest hosts.

They need to keep that stuff up.

16. Foley has gotten annoying.

Foley should have got out of the business years ago.

17. I don't want to see Morgan and Hernandez split up yet because there isn't much for them to do in singles.

I actually would prefer to see them split up and go Singles. I'm just not a fan of this Tag Team, for some reason.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Total amount of wrestling last night:

Ten minutes, twenty-three seconds.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Total amount of wrestling last night:

Ten minutes, twenty-three seconds.

I will say that is definitely disappointing, however, if their intention is to scale back on the wrestling and replace it with storylines and angles, then that is simply smart business. And it's something I would prefer as a fan, as well.

Back in the day, PPV was where it was at to see big feuds come together. And unfortunately that has been blown to Hell since WWE became such a wrestling focused product over the past few years. I guess it was easier for Vince since that was less of an effort he had to make in doing storylines. He figured, "Well, they'll watch anyway, no matter what."

So that mentality has brought about WWE's stale main event problem it is now experiencing in having the same guys wrestle each other on free tv several times, as well as PPV.

So where as 10 minutes, I agree, is way too short for the amount of wrestling, but if they are trying to scale back on the wrestling to replace it with storylines, wrestling angles, and character development to actually give people a reason to purchase the PPV's, then I am all for it.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I will say that is definitely disappointing, however, if their intention is to scale back on the wrestling and replace it with storylines and angles, then that is simply smart business. And it's something I would prefer as a fan, as well.

Back in the day, PPV was where it was at to see big feuds come together. And unfortunately that has been blown to Hell since WWE became such a wrestling focused product over the past few years. I guess it was easier for Vince since that was less of an effort he had to make in doing storylines. He figured, "Well, they'll watch anyway, no matter what."

So that mentality has brought about WWE's stale main event problem it is now experiencing in having the same guys wrestle each other on free tv several times, as well as PPV.

So where as 10 minutes, I agree, is way too short for the amount of wrestling, but if they are trying to scale back on the wrestling to replace it with storylines, wrestling angles, and character development to actually give people a reason to purchase the PPV's, then I am all for it.

Oh, believe me, I have no problem with them trying to build PPV buyrates, especially when they really aren't making that much in revenue in people who go to see Impact in the Impact Zone. It's why I have such an issue with those "Crucial Crew" clowns. It's not like they're financially supporting the TNA product.

However, they only have one show a week, at two hours. They don't have to give away big time matches. What they can do though, is utilize that huge roster that they have. There are a lot of guys sitting on the sidelines that haven't appeared in awhile. Some of these guys depend on appearing on television because they're on pay per appearance deals. Also, if someone catches fire, like The Pope for instance, it's so much easier to elevate them into title contention.

Jarrett/Bischoff didn't need that much time devoted last night. It's also a problem when one of TNA's many slogans is "We Are Wrestling", and they only feature that much wrestling time on the one show they have a week.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Oh, believe me, I have no problem with them trying to build PPV buyrates, especially when they really aren't making that much in revenue in people who go to see Impact in the Impact Zone. It's why I have such an issue with those "Crucial Crew" clowns. It's not like they're financially supporting the TNA product.

Agreed 100%.

However, they only have one show a week, at two hours. They don't have to give away big time matches. What they can do though, is utilize that huge roster that they have. There are a lot of guys sitting on the sidelines that haven't appeared in awhile. Some of these guys depend on appearing on television because they're on pay per appearance deals. Also, if someone catches fire, like The Pope for instance, it's so much easier to elevate them into title contention.

I am going back and forth right now in whether it may be a good thing not to feature the same talent each and every week. It maybe gives something for people to look forward to with each new episode. Otherwise, it can get boring.

Ultimately, the solution is probably two shows though. Then, they can fluctuate the talent between each show they appear on ... when that time comes.

Jarrett/Bischoff didn't need that much time devoted last night. It's also a problem when one of TNA's many slogans is "We Are Wrestling", and they only feature that much wrestling time on the one show they have a week.

Well, I bet the "We are wrestling" slogan is going to go away. I completely agree that Bischoff and Jarrett were allocated too much time last night. No question.

You see, I am not a TNA mark and I criticize them for things too, just like I do WWE.

I have also criticized Flair as well last night for his ridiculous over the top behavior. Same thing with Abyss and how he's been used.

 

[Shocky]

God, we have to suffer with Flair again.

 

[klunderbunker]

God, we have to suffer with Flair again.

This right here.

Last summer people were BEGGING Flair to get off TV. Now though since it's TNA, he's awesome again right?

 

[Shocky]

The term Flair and Awesome should never be said in the same sentence, unless that sentence is "Flair has finally decided to stay retired, Awesome!"