General WWE Complaining & PG Rating Thread

[gd]

I just began watching the WWE a few years ago and I am satified with the product. That being said, the so called "PG era" is what I have been exposed most of the time that I've been watching wrestling so I don't have much to compare it to besides youtube clips.

Overall though, I think the WWE is doing an above average job, especially in comparison to TNA, which is the main thing I have to compare it to.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I began watching in 96, toward the end of the New Generation Era. What got me hooked was the DX and Steve Austin angles. Until about 2007, I was always extremely satisfied with product in general. When I was young, the actual wrestling didn't interest me so much. Now however, it is my favorite aspect of the show. Which is also the reason why I am dissatisfied with product. The only reason I am satisfied is because of Smackdown. They generally put on great matches that garner my interest. Raw, without going into too much detail, fucking sucks. They constantly rely on redundant stale programs and horrible comedy instead of letting the awesome atheletes they have do what they do best. I don't care about the P.G rating, that has no effect on whether or not people are allowed to perform to the best of their abilities. So that isn't my reasoning. But Smackdown keeps into it, which keeps me at your mid level range for the product as a whole.

 

[Deviltaker95]

I began watching in the Hogan Era, been through the ups and downs of the company..Im 29 years old, and im very dissatisfied with the direction the company is going. I still order the pay per views and still watch all 3 brands, but it now seems like a chore for me..But just can't break the habit..Im just waiiting for the moment for it to get good again...Old habits die hard & its going to take a lot for me to stop watching all together, but i must say its just getting worse and worse...No more angles, no more colorful characters, same guys in the main event. Superstars being shoved down our throats..etc..

 

[Chill]

First, I began watching during the Attitude Era and I was around 9 or 10 at the time. Needless to say my knowledge of the business then was extremely limited and in a way that may have been better in terms of enjoying the product because I was able to watch without doing all the analysing I seem to do today. Then I was gullible but despite that the WWE product at the time got me hooked (I also watched WCW at this point as well, and preferred it too until it went downhill). I think to a child of 10 years old, the violence, swearing and edgy programming which was almost taboo to me at the time, was what made the product so appealing to me, this idea that adults may not have approved of what I was viewing made me want to watch all the more...Obviously the Attitude Era brought us some of the most memorable moments in pro wrestling history, and arguably some of the most entertaining and durable wrestling characters there ever has been. I will always fondly remember this era obviously because it was when I first became a huge fan but when I compare it to today's PG rated product I don't know if it was necessarily better.

In some ways, looking back on the Attitude Era today I find myself questioning how I actually enjoyed some of the outrageous, tacky and undesirable antics which in some ways may have cheapened the 'sport'. Some of the stuff they did then which admittedly appealed to me then are in actual fact cringeworthy to me today. Nonetheless, perhaps what I miss most about that era is the attention Creative paid to gimmicks. Wrestlers then seemed to have a gimmick, they had these outrageous personalities which appealed to the die hard and casual fans alike. That is why I believe it may have been easier (still not easy) to get over then compared to today where the gimmicks are so wafer thin that it is obvious little thought or planning has gone into them.

I also miss the attention which was paid to the mid card, even in the Attitude Era it was obvious that titles like the Intercontinental championship were used for the purposes of getting guys over and propelling them to main event status. I miss how the tag team championships actually meant something and how they were effective in getting wrestlers over. Unfortunately today, we see Carlito and Primo come out to a large indifference from the audience and this is because that division has become neglected. The PG era largely seems more concerned with the main eventers, not that a major emphasis was not placed on it back when I started watching but I hope people know what I mean. Another issue I have with today's product is the lack of new stars being created...don't get me wrong, 'Taker v HBK at this year's 'Maina was a great contest and possibly one of the greatest ever, but I watched these guys a decade ago, surely there is a problem if ten years on I am still anticipating a performance by these two the most...I should be looking forward to watching new stars compete but there are none. Perhaps that isn't totally fair, obviously there are guys like Morrison, Benjamin, MVP, Dibiase and Rhodes who give me hope for WWE's future but it's just the company still seems to want to book the HHH's, Batista's etc over them. Unless these younger crop of stars are given attention, when the Attitude Era stars do eventually retire in the not so distance future, the WWE are going to have problems. A recent example is RAW where Rhodes and Dibiase fought Carlito and Primo. Now Rhodes and Dibiase (who I like) are hailed by some within WWE as the future but the sad truth is they are not over in the slightest which I find very frustrating. That is what annoys me about today's WWE, the mid card is not being developed properly or allowed to blossom as it once was permitted to do. WWE needs to focus on all aspects of the card, whether that be opening card matches, the mid card, main event etc and all divisions i.e. women's, tag team and so on ...they must be afforded attention. During the Attitude Era, I found myself throughly enjoying all aspects of the show (yes there were things then which may not have appealed) , but now I am watching certain angles or segments without much care and that is because the WWE are not doing enough to interest me, which stems from a lack of effort being put in to the overall product imo.

Overall, I try to stay positive and not compare today's offering with other Eras but inevitably comparisons will arise. I hope I have not come across like I'm on a rant, I just want to offer constructive criticism. Fundamentally I enjoy today's product, I like the new prospective future stars but perhaps would like to see them used properly or being allowed to develop more. I don't have a problem with the WWE targeting the kids, they are a business and Vince must do what he feels is right for business. I cannot say that I am very satisifed with today's offering, I would sway more towards general satisfaction with some frustration targeted towards certain aspects of the show which I feel are perhaps more neglected today than when I first began following. I want to be enthusiatic and I am still at times, though if I'm being totally honest I am not as enthusiastic as I could be....

 

[King Patrick Star]

Vince McMahon only did one thing wrong in my eyes and NO it wasn't the XFL.... It was making GOLDBERG a Star in WWE instead of jobbing him like he was suppose to.

There is no way in hell you should ever put The biggest star from another company over your own. Goldberg going over The Rock was a sham and anybody who think otherwise is smoking crack. He should've never been allowed to run through the WWE like that and NEVER given anything above a mid card title...IMO Goldberg was Vince McMahon's Biggest Mistake bar none

I don’t agree with this. Goldberg might not have been “Home grown” but I think your reasoning was the same reason why the Alliance angle failed. Had Vince just put his ego aside, considering he already won the actual War, things would have been different today. What he did with Goldberg was what he should have done with WCW and ECW, in my opinion. I really don’t know why Vince or you would think it’s “best for business” to bury the competition, especially if you own the competition. That would be shooting a dead cow. That would be like being a Champion winning a Non – Title Match (Yes, I threw in a promo about a thread I created today). Anyway, the only issue I had with Goldberg in the WWE is that it didn’t last long enough.

 

[Tenta]

Vince's biggest mistake. Well, it's simple... It's exactly what he did to make himself the superpower that he is now. Vince's biggest mistake is ripping the territory system to shreds.

You see, the territories use to be the place where wrestlers could perfect their gimmick. Think of it like all of the WWE's developmental leagues.... Times infinity. A wrestler could perform in front of a lot of people, and learn to perfect his craft. Gimmicks could stay fresher, because a wrestler could move from territory to territory. Vince's complete pillaging of the territories may have been what led to the WWE becoming what it is, but on the whole, for wrestlers, and professional wrestling, it kinda fucked over the system. Now, gimmicks would become tiresome, and there would be no lower stage to learn how to perfect one's craft.

I remember they were discussing it in one of the Legend's roundtables, and I think one of the Legends said that Vince looks at what he did to the territory system, and wonders, "what have I done". He knows that he has made a platform for wrestlers to either sink or swim to a national audience. There is no perfecting one's craft. There's no going to other territories to get seasoning. And the gimmicks that we see nowadays get staler than they ever have.

Consider a case of... Well, Abdullah The Butcher. A wrestler like that, with that gimmick, might be able to last in WWE for ten years, tops. Abby took his gimmick from territory to territory, and was able to milk that gimmick for fifty years. Can you think of any wrestler that can do that now, in this day and age? Impossible. So in that sense, Vince has pretty much screwed over the longevity of the wrestling business.

Don't get me wrong, becoming a national promotion did a lot of good for the WWE. But as for pro wrestling, in general? It may have wound doing a lot of harm.

 

[thelcon21]

Since Royal Rumble the WWE product has been terrible. I have never turned off a PPV and after Randy Orton dropped the title too Batista in 7 minutes and knowing that Batista had a torn bicep I couldn't watch anymore. I decided to watch Raw to see if they could explain themselves but after seeing Triple H return and watch him go through Cody and Ted like he was beating up Doink the Clown and Santino I turned it off again. The product is just old and boring and predictible now.

Look at the facts that Wrestlezone posted earlier today. Since Summerslam 2004 the same four wrestlers (Batista, Triple H, Cena, Orton) have always been involved in a title main event match on PPV. Back in the attitude era you had Stone Cold, The Rock, Undertaker, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Kane, Mankind all changing things up and going for the WWF title. Yes we saw Rock vs. Austin and Undertaker vs Austin a lot but everytime there was something different added to the feuds. Now Batista, Cena, Triple H and Randy Orton are all one dimensional and it is the same feuds over and over again.

How many times do we have to relive the breakup of Evolution? Yes we get the fact that Triple H turned on Randy Orton, but that happened in 2004 and it is 2009 now. How many times do we have to hear that "There is no way John Cena can make the Big Show submit" yet Super Cena does it anyway?

Back in the day Austin and Rock were the two main faces in the company, but they didn't look like super heroes against the other main eventers. When Austin would fight the Undertaker you had an idea that Austin would probably win but you weren't 100% sure that would happen. Now you always know that John Cena and Triple H are always going to come out on top.

When Randy Orton formed Legacy I was real excited about this group, but now they look like a bunch of nothings and are being used to make a 39 year old 13 times Heavy Weight Champion look good. Does Triple H really need to put down this group everytime he hits the ring. He is Vince's son inlaw and will probably help run this company in the future. Wouldn't it be to his benefit to help build a future for this company instead how hoping to win more World Titles than Ric Flair?

Anyway that was more of a rant but if you can't tell by that I think todays product is really poor compared to the past we've seen.

 

[mcflyboy]

This is in response to lord sidious' comment to me:

If you thought that this was "lame and immature", why don't you go support something like Ring of Honor, or go watch UFC? It is clear that more people embraced the version of the company when it was sex and violence ... as opposed to this version of the company, where it pretends it is actually a real sport, and not entertaining in the slightest.

I guess I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by telling me to go elsewhere. Besides being somewhat rude, why would I, when my point was that I prefer the product now, in part because the immaturity, overt sexuality and violence has toned down somewhat compared to 10 years ago?

I could just as easily counter by saying perhaps you should should stop watching if the current product is such a turnoff for you. By your own admission, you don't find it entertaining in the slightest. If that is the case, why do you watch it? Just to come here and complain about it?

But I don't really want to get into a debate or an argument, so I'm not going to add anymore to this discussion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but it seemed a little extreme and unnecessary to tell me to take a hike just for expressing mine.

 

[Hayles]

How much time do you have? (lulz)

1) Freshen up the main event scene?

I really dont watch any wrestling these days and I just happened to see the Raw results this week, thus I can only speak for Raw. Though I am pretty sure the same names are main eventing Smackdown too. Its time to put new names in the main event scene, even for a trail. I understand that names like Triple, Batista, Edge, Randy Orton, John Cena, and Jeff Hardy draw ratings, but they've been in the main event constantly for at least a year now. Triple H has been main eventing since the 90's for Christ sakes. If these people are supposed to be the ratings cows, then they should be able to draw where ever they are placed on the card. I'd love to see a match of CM Punk vs Chris Jericho for the World Championship. Of course WWE would have to fill out the card just to make sure the ppv sells, but they should give this a shot. Fan reaction will let them know if they have a future with wrestlers such as MVP and Punk, if the do WWE should start building the respective brands around them.

2) No balls allowed

The last time I spent any time paying attention to anything divas, Melina and Beth were in a storyline where Melina just won the Divas Championship and she was out to prove her win wasnt a fluke. She also had to overcome the odds of Santino and Rosa in Beths corner. On Smackdown McCool had just turned heel after losing her belt, thanks to what she blamed as horrible refereeing by Maria. A few weeks ago I turned on Raw only to see Santino Marella in drag. I'll admit the whole mankini thing had me laughing when I saw it on Youtube, but it should have ended there. Now the womans division is centered around a dragqueen from what I can see. The womans division(s) should be centered around women, not men. Speaking of which, there should only be one division. In no way does the WWE have enough talented divas to have two different divsions for women. The division should also be on one show, I'd prefer ECW as that show is more wrestling based and right now the divas need to be seen as wrestlers rather than glorified media ****es.

3) The tag division

While I'm not too happy with what TNA is doing with their tag division, it has been a hell of a lot better than WWE's. The tag team divison, much like the Divas should be exclusive to one brand. The division needs to either have interesting storylines, or the division needs to work on a ranking system. I dont exactly know whats going on with the unified champs, but apparantly WWE's tag division isnt trumping TNA's.

4) General Managers

How many GM changes have there been over the past few years? GM's should be arround for longer than a year and they should have some actual power. By that I mean, when the McMahon family decided to make their anual Raw drop in, they shouldnt over rule anything a GM does. They were involed with Eric B as GM, Kurt Angle as GM, Teddy Long as GM, Vickie as GM, Paul E Hayman as GM, and so on. I dont care if they stop by, but they should be in storylines away from the GM.

5) Face character development through rivalries

CM Punk is straight edge. He doesnt drink and he doesnt do drugs. Well thats nice, but that was his gimmick when he debuted years ago. Not much has changed and not much has expanded in his character. Now I'll admit, I hated Cena's two year title reign, give or take a few months. However, does anyone remember his character before that reign. I learnt how to be a racial minority off of him, and Im a real life racial minority! He quickly dropped the rapper gimmick and became, a man who honoured respect, a man who refused to back down from challange, and refused to quit. That may be a sort of boring character to some, but it is a defined character that people can easily understand. A lot of characters are in the same position as Punk. You have Kofi Kingston, Christian Cage (Yeah I still call him that), Ron Killings, Evan Bourne, Gregory Helms, Ricky Ortiz, and even Jeff Hardy.

6) Interesting Storylines

WWE proved they can have interesting storylines. The who killed McMahon angle was great till we found out the answer was Benoit and the twist was that it was actually Benoits family that were killed. The most recent point of interest was when Triple H broke into Ortons home and beat the holy hell out of him. It reminded me of the infamous "Pillmans got a gun" angle. However, the next week on Raw the rivalry went back to the same predictable and boring booking. Orton promised a shocker and he beat up Stephanie, but wait Batman, Orton beat up Stephanie the previous month! OH MY GAWD! All Im saying is make storylines interesting. After seeing Triple H break into Ortons home, for the first time in almost 4 years, I felt like I couldnt miss Raw. The storyline wasnt a complete blur to me, like everything else from 2005 till now.

More to come when I have the time.

 

[Hayles]

Business wise Vince McMahon really hasnt made any mistakes. I mean, maybe he could have had beter drug policies, but he does offer paid rehab to all of his former workers. There was nothing he could do about Eddies drug usage in WCW and believe it or not, ****** or not, I believe Benoit would have murdered his family.

Buying WWE really hasnt proved a bad option for Vince either. Yes he killed off his rival wrestling company, but they damn near killed WWF. If he didnt buy the company, someone else might have and they might have bought WWF in the long run. I understand people think much of the things going on in WWE are boring or just plain ridiculous, but thats because WWE isnt marketed to you. Welcome to reality, children. You are not the people bringing the paper with dead people on it to Vinnie Mac. In the 90's most of you were, in the 80's I was, but now its your little brothers, sisters, and maybe your children that are.

The only mistake I see Vince making is bring back Triple H to revive a rivalry that has been done three times already. Even the youngest of fans have got to be getting sick of Randy Orton vs Triple H. I dont expect it to last long at all.

 

[The Champ is here]

Yea i have to agree with most of everyone on this thread.

I Have no problem with the PG rating change -even though it does suck wtf is the blood-
Triple H is way to dominate- Love em but... dude, ur dick doesn't have to be that hard all the time, put more younger talent over instead of just given the younger talent a chance to have work with HHH.-
Orton Vs. HHH Fued is so stale- HHH vs. Orton Hell in a cell At the Bash to end it
Legacy- Those silverspoon Boys are great inring performers but they are so boring and act so old. Ric Flair has more Saz them those guys.-
C.M.Punk as a Face-he would be natural as a heel
The same fueds and matches- Cena/Edge, Cena/Big Show, Cena/Jbl, HHH/Orton, Jbl/Rey, MVP/Matt hardy.
about 85% of Raw's Storylines from July08 til now dont make sence.Main Event superstars have to change-Same ol shit
Smackdown needs to be moved to wednesday- the best out of the 3 shows but it's on a shitty night.-
Main event guys have got to step up- Cena has to have more moves instead of the same old shit. It so predictable for cena matches.

Jeff Hardy or and Shawn michaels have to become champion.

 

[Black Snow]

I began watching in the Flair era (your poll calls it the Hogan era.) Today's product is very touch and go so I said I wasn't satisfied or dissatisfied with it. RAW is a very poor show. Santino is entertaining and I love the midcard but the main event scene is very disappointing. RAW is easily my least favorite show of the week. SD on the other hand is amazing. The only thing I don't really like is the women it chooses to push. Both it's main event and midcard are incredibly deep and interesting. Superstars and ECW are both fun little shows. Neither is amazing but I still get a kick out of most of the action. Superstars especially is very fast, fun, well-paced show.

TNA iMPACT! is like RAW. When it does something good it does it great. When it does something bad it's absolutely horrible.

Today's product as a whole is good. But very rarely do I see something that I feel like I'll be remembering vividly a decade from now.

 

[tLight]

Triple H + a very long losing Streak and no chance of a title run whatsoever.
Make him job to everyone on the roster on each show.
Eliminate the ******ed "comedy skits" and focus on the wrestling. They help to developed some characters, but there is no need for more than 1 a per show.
The "WWE Style" of wrestling needs to change. Big Spots, and bumps are cool, but those shouldn’t be what drives a match. Switch up the endings, it’s great that guys have finishers, but when a match has more than 3 false finishes in a match is overkill.

Best of 7 feuds work well, best of 407 feuds don't. Edge got away from Cena, let Cena get away from Show, let Orton get away from Triple H, Fire Batista.

Move the roster around again. Make ECW like the X division, put the smaller guys on that roster and let them wrestle, have story lines, but not these garbage story lines they keep giving us.

Stop throwing tag teams together, then breaking them apart during the draft every year. Build them up to be tag teams, and have the tag champs wrestle on every brand (or at least two brands) a week.

More wrestling

 

[TwistofRKO]

Heels don't generally get clean wins because it makes us hate them more. Think about how annoyed you are when yet another heel gets a 'cheap' win by using the belt when the referee isn't looking, or having their foot on the ropes. It's things like that which make us hate/be annoyed. And guess what? That's the point of them! WWE is doing a fine job.

But every heel cannot be the cowardly heel. Having a heel come out and just flat out beat your favorite guy can get you plenty of heat. It's obvious they need cheap heels, but they can't make it so predictable with every heel cheating to win every single time.

On topic itself, I'll keep it to one answer right now and say they need to add more value to being the champion. It's ****ed out now. Edge wins it, drops it right away, even Cena does that now.

As sick as people here get of Triple H (myself included, sometimes) having a champion who really holds up the championship means something. We shouldn't have 6x champions made just over the course of a year. If a heel wins it, let him keep cheating to retain it. The champions have looked very weak, outside of Triple H, regardless of who it has been placed on- Cena, Batista, Orton, Edge, Jericho, Hardy... That can't be.

 

[Viola Moonlight]

I began watching sometime after HBK got sidelined, simply by chancing it through channel surfing. Ahh... the remote, God's gift to man.

Anywho... I was completely hooked. Every moment they offered was pretty much excellent. If I missed a Raw or Smackdown, I would ball my eyes out (I was young & stupid). When HBK returned & the nWo came to WWE, I started doing research of wrestling as I had no idea who they were.

I have to say, I was pretty lucky to watch some classic matches like Rock v.s. Austin, Austin v.s. Undertaker, WM20 Triple Threat.... the list goes on, until 2007. The only match with a fued that I have creamed my pants over was the HBK v.s. Underater match at WM25. Its pretty sad how 2 wrestlers who have passed their prime & are due for expiry date from the full-time "in the spotlight" wrestling are the guys who created an epic match that wrestling fans such as ourselves are going to remember as the best of the PG era! I know there is more to the future, but unless they start giving younger guys the push from the midcard to the main event, undercard wrestlers to the midcard, get rid of the undercard & fix up the divisions, WWE isnt going anywhere but down the toilet in which i am very close to flushing.

Seriously, how long can WWE milk John Cena & Triple H??? Why is there a PG rating when there are other shows on TV that contains way more offensive material than WWE??? If WWE deserves such a rating then UFC should be kicked off TV or at least a G or E rating??? (depending where you come from).
ATM, I am very dissatisfied with the product. The only saving grace WWE has is Smackdown. ECW is doing very well with a very limiting roster.

I dont know about any of you, but RAW is like a dog with a very serious heart problem. Either you give it a pacemaker or something to keep its heart beating as it used to or you put it down. Letting it suffer like this will not result in anything good. How can Vince look down at the dog called RAW looking at him with sympathetic eyes that reads help me & he does nothing about it because it still entertains the kids???

My conclusion: Vince doesnt know what to do & should step down. Umaga shouldnt have been released, Batista should have. Give Legacy & Kane the push they need. The moment I flush the toilet is the moment I will join the professional wrestling circuit to save the WWE. Do something before I have to.

Peace. FalKon Out.

 

[TSG]

I started watching in late 2003 (post-attitude era). The Kane/Shane fued is what got me into it. I remember my first night watching Shane ran Kane into the Tractor Trailer and i was like Oh My God what've I been missing. Since then both Kane and Shane McMahon have been two of my favorites. I have seen alot of stuff from the Atitude Era and it was basically awesome. I was very satisfied with what I saw there. And I am very satisfied with the post attitude era. The New Generation Era was okay and I never got into the Hogan Era that much. I enjoyed the product up until about sometime between late 06-mid 07, then it started going downhill. The new PG era is okay, but alot of the gimmicks suck and there is not enough quality wrestling (especially on RAW) and the fueds are getting stale. And I also wish they'd start showing the blood again, it's like it's wrestling, for goodness sakes, you expect blood! ECW, is very good though. I really enjoy it. So based on the little entertainment I occasionally get from RAW and ECW's quality, I am sorta dissatisfied with the PG Era.

 

[Zeedeevel]

Well I started watching around 1991 and i was a huge hulkamaniac until late 92 when I saw hbk win his first ic title. The hogan era was great and left mostly everyone happy. I would rate this as very satissfied

The new generation is what I can remember most since i was in grade school when it was going on. A lot of people trash that era for the goofiness but this was the era that Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, Diesel, HBK, and Undertaker thrived. I would rate this as very satissfied as well

Attitude Era is what a lot of people wish would come back, but vince russo has tried that many times and it cant be duplicated. It was also a time when many stars were born and even more thrived. Another very satissfied era

Post Attitude is an era that I cannot really comment much on as I had stopped watching in mid 2002 til the special raw after eddie died. I had stopped watching due to time conflicts not because the product was bad. What I saw of this era was good enough to get me back into it fully, especially with Edge being in the main event. so from what I saw I'll say very satissfied

The PG era is an interesting time to me. Smackdown and ECW have vastly improved their shows and Raw has slipped a little bit. I'm not exaclty happy with the lack of tag team wrestling but there will be a time for that again. They are actually defending the US and IC titles now with guys that are actually entertaining and restoring the titles. ECW, while not being too extreme anymore has some of the best matches on tv and is actually becoming fun to watch. I'm satisfied with this era but not very satisfied but I picked that cuz I do like the product still a lot just not as much as I used to.

 

[HBK-aholic]

It's been in my life since I've been born, which was '91. I've always watched it, although obviously not understood it that early. That being said, I still completely love it now 17 years later. I LOVE watching Raw, waiting for the PPVs to come on. I genuinely hate the heels and cheer the faces. I mark out for almost everything. I hate spoilers, because there's no point in watching the show. Basically, the WWE is awesome.

 

[kingdirrtysouth1]

I started watching during the Jim Crockett NWA era! You don't have that one thought so I wont vote. But, I enjoyed the product a hell of a lot more back then than I do know. Back then the Horseman were running things and Flair was the (CREDIBLE) World Heavy weight champ! Today Legacy is running(towards a beat down by an individual superstar) & Randy Orton...well...
On the other(and other brand) Smackdown delivers solid in ring action every week! NWA had tons of solid workers just like Smackdown today. Plus Smackdown had a credible World champ who took short cuts to retain like Flair used to!

TNA-Well their champ can't go in the ring any more. Still solid on the mic though! Back then, NWA pulled out the gimmick matches(WARGAMES) for the big events! TNA pulls out the gimmick matches(ladder match) for EVERY event! The thing that really kills me is that just EVER match on a given ppv isa multi-man match!

The NWA never tried to use some elses formula. They used their own. Remember TNA original formula, wrestling first, sports entertainment second? The X division has become the Ex-division!

Jim Crockett's NWA had lots of great tag teams(R&R Express and Midnight Express), TNA has great tag teams(Beer Money, MMG), WWE don't like tag teams!

I do get excited about certain things, but haven't really been excited about an event since HOGAN/ROCK. After that one, it seemed like they forgot how to Wrestlemani! That year was the best build for a ppv(besides Starrcade 97) I had ever seen, but that was then, this now!

I'm not dissatisfied, but not nearly as satisfied as I used to be!

 

[Henry Hill]

i began watching wrestling when i was a mere 3 years old. i actually have a photo of me watching Hulk Hogan as a very young child, completely marking out. i still have ljn action figures of Hogan, Andre, Beefcake, Cowboy Orton, Terry Funk, King Kong Bundy, Greg Valentine, and several others. I've been there through the Good, the Bad, and the ugly. I was such an HBK mark during the new generation years, and i loved The Rock during the attitude era. since then i've loved Orton, Eddie, and Chris Benoit (yeah he is a murderer, but i can't deny i loved that guy at one point.) Angle and HBK.
Currently i think the product could be better. I also believe it could be a whole lot worse. Orton is not always on top of his game. HBK usually delivers, and Angle is in TNA. There are things i miss from every era and there are things i dont. The point i am trying to make is: wrestling is what you make of it. fans love what they love and hate what they hate. and i hope constantly for a new "golden" era of wrestling, but to me it'll be different than what it is to anyone else. I'm just glad that i can watch Raw and SD! every week. I'm stoked about what the future holds and i think there can be a great amount of improvement and building of the next generation of wrestlers and fans. Ultimately i am not always happy with the current product, but i am positive about it and the future. LONG LIVE WRESTLING!!

 

[gregfj2]

I heard friends talk wrestling at school in the 80's but only real exposure was Hogan on A-Team, I guess. I imagine it was the flood of Austin shirts that made me take another look around 2000. I was a Rock fan right away and hated how massive & strong Hunter was but he always used a weapon on my guy. I'm sure I collected PPV tapes right away, and I remember that '98 was barely interesting to me but by '99 the characters were almost all must-see and follow.

In comics I like team books and team battles, so the addition of WCW guys and then the takeover of the whole business should have been HOT... but it wasn't at all. Respected wrestlers were ignored, good characters were denied a chance to entertain, and worst of all the 2 hour shows barely had an hour of content while the fillers like Jakked and Bottom Line were used to replay the same damn we already saw replayed the night it happened. All this time could've been used to spotlight the staggering amount of performers available. Even today I hate reading about dark matches that I'll never see.

There's been so many gross and disgusting moments that made me stop watching for a few weeks or more, but some characters have been so fun to watch that I love to discover their earlier work and consider the hard life they've chosen to follow. I've read reviews of ECW matches that I could never bear to watch, but to see those guys still healthy and walking normal with no apparent facial scars is just amazing to me. I wish wrestling could be more honest about pretending to be serious, because all the practice and effort to give a good performance is still hard work and sometimes dangerous. Actually I guess every single match could be dangerous depending on skill or motives, so why not open up about it?

Steve Blackman will always be my number one favorite, but I can't really say why. But I also love Jamie Noble and Lance Storm and Little Bastard back when the 'e'-camera was new and he jumped out to surprise Stacy Kiebler. I think that Lita should have been true to her roots and stayed with Essa, because the poor guy was erased just like that. I am really disgusted to hear about Bradshaw's public behavior as if it's never reported or spread around. But most of all if WWE puts jobbers on my tv, but the kids have accomplished something at school or in development, THEN TELL ME so I can stay interested in the business. You are not selling me Koslov just because he can destroy strangers. (But maybe the business makes money just fine from the gimmicks and they don't need brains to survive. I've been reading for years that Lawler is a regular and accomplished performer, but on tv he's just a fool for laughs. How can he play the idiot for so long? I will only believe it if he got to actually pet all those puppies over the years. I would probably play jackass on tv too... Damn!)

 

[golden miz]

In TNA the main event doesn't awalys have title stipulations. It hardly contains the champion and it makes theings intresting. My question is how many people are sick of seeing matches that somehow involve randy orton or the championship as the main event. They should highlight other fueds as the main event of the show as well do to the fact that it waters down the title fueds. My question is how many feel that the main event shouldn't awalys be involving the champion. I know TNA isn't the best but at least they got one concept right.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I like that TNA doesn't have a world title every month. WWE never seems to take advantage of the fact they have two. Prime example is Backlash. Cena vs. Edge could've been for the title. The WWE Championship match could have been a 6-Man tag to hype an eventual Orton vs. HHH rematch.

Title matches shouldn't just be given to anyone.

 

[Hayles]

The title should always be in the main event. Wrestlers might have other personal feuds, but everyone in the company is trying to get a shot at the WWE or World Championship. Those two titles should always be the most important thing in the WWE. I'm even against the Royal Rumble being the main event at the RR ppv, though seeing as how the name of the ppv revolves around the match, its the one forgivable night.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I think this is my new saying, I agree to a certain degree. Orton in the Main Event is getting old. I say three PPVs in a row is good enough, unless, and here’s that certain degree, he’s the Champ. I feel that the WWE Title should always Main Event whatever event on a PPV. It’s the WWE Championship we’re talking about. I think, in my opinion, that Spinning piece of $#!+ is the most important thing in the whole (WWE) Universe and it should be the main focus of all of Wrestling. I think even TNA should look at that Toy Title and think, I want it too!! Even the boys in Blue on Friday nights should strive to get work on Monday’s to get a chance to wear that “Dub Dub Dub Dub W-Unit” piece. Point being, whatever it looks like, it should be the number one goal on every single person involved in this business minds and it should be the last thing the entire world sees on a Wrestling show on any given Sunday.