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Don't worry, Daniel Bryan won't be a Wyatt for long....

To me this is pretty simple and I agree with what a few have already said about this. For one you people are idiots for thinking Vince is trying to boast his "ego" by burying DB to have him join the Wyatts. If anything it's the opposite. Wyatts are inline for a huge push come WM time and what better way to help them with this push then to have the hottest most popular guy help them along the way in DB.

Now I agree that he won't be a Wyatt for long and likely turn on them by RR and using them to help win the RR but is that really what good "Faces" do? Have help to do something historic like use other people to win the RR? I dunno and thats why I am more interested on how DB is going to used in the Wyatt family. I can see Cena coming in somewhere trying to get Bryan out but I think Bryan wants to destroy the Wyatts from the inside out by joining them then destroying them from the inside.

This can go a number of ways and I can only hope WWE creative dosen't ish this one up like they have with so many golden opportunities in the past. He won't be a Wyatt for long definitely done with them by WM but man it's going to be fun to watch unfold to see how they use DB. So many moving parts here. So to Vince and WWE creative I say..... "Please don't screw this one up please"
 
Its clearly a sign that Vince/HHH hate any indy star getting over, I mean they stopped Punk's title reign after 434 because he is an indy star....

... point proven on that silly old argument.

It will not surprise me now if we do get The Wyatts v The Shield, thus allowing both Bryan and Punk to start taking control against The Authority and more than likely be the last two in the Rumble. As for Bryan himself, it'll be a simple angle where the fans simply convert him back and that The Wyatt's power over him isn't as strong as the fans... in essence creating the next major babyface or it could be a similar angle to how Cena joined the Nexus, destroy them from the inside.
 
I dont understand all the complaining. You guys beg for something new and unpredictable and when you get it you bash the hell out of it.

I love that Bryan has joined the Wyatts. Remember when HHH and Austin teamed up? Well I think this has potential to be almost as good. Bray has something about him that just makes you want to watch him, and DB is...well he's DB. I marked out when DB did the Wyatt arms spread pose.

What immediately came to my mind was Punk vs DB. I think that this is where this storyline is headed. Punk will join the authority, and the Wyatt Family will turn face leading to this match at Mania. I know reports say that Punk will face HHH but I dont think he will. Bray will face Cena, and Harper and Rowan will face Rollins and Reigns. This wrestlemania is going to be built around the Wyatt Family. You guys want them to build new stars, well here you go. This is going to be some good tv.
 
Oh FFS. Really, people? How many times does the WWE have to prove you wrong, how many times does the WWE have to show you that they know what they're doing, how many times do they have to show you that you need to wait until a storyline plays out before you stop overanalyzing every move and reacting based on the assumption that they're going to do something stupid when there is no fact based reason to think that? This happens every time. EVERY. FREAKING. TIME. WWE does something you didn't expect, which means you didn't like it, and you all run to your little computers and either cry about how stupid it was without giving any thought whatsoever to where it's leading or you cry about how stupid it is because you're absolutely certain you know where it's leading and it must be leading somewhere stupid. Then the storyline plays out, it turns out WWE had the whole thing planned out perfectly, you were wrong about what they were going to do, and it all works out for them. Then you somehow either conveniently ignore the entire thing, or find some way to nitpick it or call it predictable. Because, afterall, that's what everything is; stupid or predictable.

Daniel Bryan is not going to be in the Wyatt Family for long. He's not going to stay heel. They're not doing this to bury him because their big egos are taking over or because they were upset he got cheered at the ascension ceremony. Seriously, that is absolutely freaking asinine.

This is the one of the oldest story lines in the book. Heel has some kind of control over the face, forces the face to do his bidding to great drama, eventually the face snaps and takes out the heel(s) in grand fashion. They just did it with Big Show and The Authority. They did it when John Cena was in Nexus. They did it with JBL and HBK. On and on.

I don't know where or when or how, but Daniel Bryan will turn back face(not that he'll ever really be a heel) and break free from the Wyatt Family, destroying Bray along the way, and will be even more over because of it. It's baffling that anybody could even consider any other possibility.

If you were a woman and gave me the time of day, I'd marry you. So much common sense in that post.

How many people on these boards swear up and down that they know what's going to happen and immediately start bitching? Too often to count, right? They've literally convinced themselves that Daniel Bryan may possibly stay a heel character while his marketability and popularity dwindles. Riiight because that's where these past 2 years have been leading with DB. He got impressive audience response from 2011-early 2012 as a heel, his battlecry stole the WM 2k12 show, and was featured with much TV and PPV time ever since. They technically gave him the WWE title twice in one year already! They see that DB's value is the chase of something. He has the most appeal when he's an underdog. That's why they're keeping him in a plethora of storylines where heels are constantly getting the better of him. That way, the payoff moment when he comes out on top, is that much sweeter!

Ugh wake up and smell the gym socks, people.
 
I knew he was growing that hair and beard out for a reason.

I think it's a great turn. Inevitably Bryan will stay with them long enough to beat on CM Punk some after CM Punk pleads with him to go back face. Eventually he will have an epiphany and turn on Bray Wyatt again leading to their match.

On a side note, this whole storyline is somewhat patronizing. Everyone knows HHH has gamed his way to the top and patronizes the fans who legitimately think the WWE product is shat compared to what it used to be with his kayfabe storylines like how in control he is and what's good for business.
 
It's quite possible that all of this is Bryan using them or destroying them from within, but the idea of turning the Wyatt's face baffles me, Bray is creepy and grotesque, he has done a wonderful job of building a menacing aura around his character and the crowd are starting to give him real heat. WWE have 3 top faces with Big E and Reigns soon to join them and Batista about to return, this angle has created a new top heel, it would be crazy to throw that away.
 
Now I agree that he won't be a Wyatt for long and likely turn on them by RR and using them to help win the RR but is that really what good "Faces" do? Have help to do something historic like use other people to win the RR? I dunno and thats why I am more interested on how DB is going to used in the Wyatt family. I can see Cena coming in somewhere trying to get Bryan out but I think Bryan wants to destroy the Wyatts from the inside out by joining them then destroying them from the inside.

Maybe but as far as I can remember I do not remember the WWE being that elaborate when handling a storyline or feud. Especially in the position of Bryan as a face turning heel. Sure Angle did it with the Alliance and the Invasion angle but it was still designed for him to turn heel at the end.

WWE's always been basic when handling top faces (especially when chasing for the title), they over come the heels and don't rely on swerve or underhanded tactics to get the better of them (ok there was Austin/Tyson but in the end Austin beat HBK clean so that was still pretty elementary).

So it's easy to see why some are doubtful on this theroy since it's hard to see why the WWE would change now. Since the followed the script of how to push faces from Hogan back in the 80's to Cena today.
 
They go for the same ending, Wyatt and Bryan in the ring, last one wins the Rumble. Heck they may even have one of his two goons in the last 3 and he jumps out first after Wyatt tells him to leave. Wyatt tells Bryan to leave and Bryan starts putting a leg over the top rope, only to turn around, doing his angry head shaking thing he does. Wyatt tells him to leave again. Bryan then looks at him, smiles, and starts chanting, "NO! NO! NO!" and the crowd goes nuts.

We realize that Bryan is the one who actually mastered the mind games with Wyatt. They fight for a couple minutes, Wyatt gets eliminated, and BOOM...Bryan just got hotter than hot, crowd is going crazy, and we have Bryan set up for the Road to Wrestlemania. Gives a slight twist, fans leave happy...it's all good.

Ok...interesting idea but the logic of it (not that WWE storylines need to conform to logic) is somewhat baffling. Daniel Bryan joins the wyatts, just on the off chance that it happens to be him and bray as the last 2 competitors in the royal rumble? Seems like a bit of a stretch, but then again, I still could see this happening.

On the other hand, it is possible that we might have a storyline in which Bryan is attempting to "fool" the wyatts, thereby saving himself beatings leading up to the royal rumble and avoiding having them target him in the rumble itself...sure, I could buy that. But if that's the storyline, then once he turns on the wyatts during the rumble itself, then we're just back where we started--bryan would become a target for the wyatts again, and nothing's changed. So that makes me think that this is not the direction either.

Don't get me wrong, I fully do believe that the WWE storylines are capable of going down either of those roads, but neither one makes logical sense to me, so I'm guessing that there is another planned direction.
 
Keep in mind that 2014 is supposed to be the birth of the Tweener Era. There are no longer any faces or heels, as Vince McMahon himself claimed. Daniel Bryan joined The Wyatt Family not because he was brainwashed, but because he realized that Bray Wyatt really was right - the machine (The Authority) would always hold him down and pass over him no matter how big he gets. No one's really the bad guy here. Bryan WAS hurt by the powers that be. The Wyatts DO want to take down the powers that be.

WrestleMania is (at least traditionally), supposed to be the culmination of things from the calendar year, and I have a feeling this is going to be one of the major storylines for the RTWMXXX. Give it longer than a week before we start passing judgement.
 
A lot of this depends on what the plans are for Cena vs Wyatt at Wrestlemania. If that match is actually going to take place than I'm afraid Daniel Bryan will be with the Wyatt Family up until that point. The storyline could easily revolve around Cena trying to save Bryan, he's acknowledged on air that he likes Bryan and with Total Divas it is known that they are dating the Bella Twins. So that's one obvious reason but the second is to simply elevate Wyatt.

If Bray Wyatt is to fight Cena at Wrestlemania he will need a lot of work before then. He's not over enough as a heel to warrant a match against Cena at Mania and so the WWE will have to pull out all the stops to get him to that spot. Having the second most over guy on the roster join Wyatt's group instantly puts Wyatt above Bryan in the pecking order for the casual fans. It's that simple and it's a move that will work if that's the way they are going with it.

It's a shame that Bryan is depushed like this but if we're all honest we knew for the past few months that Vince obviously sees him as a 'good hand' and not a top attraction. This will be his role in the WWE and it's not a bad one, it's one previously occupied by the likes of Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero and others. Couple recent events with the resigning of Batista (even short term) and Lesnar saying he wants to wear gold soon and there isn't a hope Bryan is getting the title shot at Mania.
 
Ok...interesting idea but the logic of it (not that WWE storylines need to conform to logic) is somewhat baffling. Daniel Bryan joins the wyatts, just on the off chance that it happens to be him and bray as the last 2 competitors in the royal rumble? Seems like a bit of a stretch, but then again, I still could see this happening.

On the other hand, it is possible that we might have a storyline in which Bryan is attempting to "fool" the wyatts, thereby saving himself beatings leading up to the royal rumble and avoiding having them target him in the rumble itself...sure, I could buy that. But if that's the storyline, then once he turns on the wyatts during the rumble itself, then we're just back where we started--bryan would become a target for the wyatts again, and nothing's changed. So that makes me think that this is not the direction either.

Don't get me wrong, I fully do believe that the WWE storylines are capable of going down either of those roads, but neither one makes logical sense to me, so I'm guessing that there is another planned direction.

The logic is perfect. You're forgetting a key component to the Royal Rumble is that it's every man for himself. If Daniel Bryan is aligning himself with three other guys, then his chances of staying in the Royal Rumble until the end are significantly higher - especially when compared to the alternative of three guys working in tandem to eliminate him. In that light, the odds are actually high that Bryan and Wyatt are apart of the Rumble's Final 4 simply because they'd be working as a four-some with Rowan and Harper while everyone else would pretty much be in it for himself.

I'm not necessarily cheering for this route since I don't mind Bryan being a heel (the No chant is just as over as the Yes chant). I also don't mind Bryan being apart of a team hell-bent on taking down the establishment (the Authority). But if the WWE went this direction, I could easily see the logic behind it.
 
I agree with the majority of posts (at least the ones I actually read) in this thread...I think it's less about cooling Daniel Bryan's popularity, and more about getting The Wyatts over. Whether The Wyatts become faces, or Bryan turns on them, there's a great outcome when WM comes around. We'll either see The Wyatts (with Bryan) vs. The Authority at WM, or we'll have a great Bryan vs. Bray Wyatt match (I'm betting on the latter).

The WWE was extremely careful NOT to have a lot of physical interaction between Daniel Bryan & Bray Wyatt over the course of their feud. Was that all because of Bray's injury? Maybe, but I'm betting on the fact that the WWE figured out that Bray vs. Bryan at Wrestlemania would make for a five star match. We've got all the classic setup so far for that to happen, the OP's original RR idea would be perfect to set it up. If Bryan doesn't turn on Bray & The Wyatts at the RR, it will probably happen soon after - so they can set up this one on one match for Wrestlemania. I think Harper & Rowan should go after the Tag Titles at Wrestlemania as well, and this story with Bryan will get The Wyatts (as a whole) over HUGE once Wrestlemania is over.

I agree with the OP, Bryan won't be with them for long. Turning Bray & Co. face would work for the story, but I don't think it's as good as Bryan FINALLY getting his hands on Bray...especially after weeks of the fans clamoring for Bryan to break away from them. I think this is a great move by the WWE; it's a great way to make Bryan's match at Wrestlemania really mean something (without having him go for title), and a great way to give The Wyatts their first huge opportunity to shine. My money's on Bryan vs. Bray at WM 30.
 
I'm a little concerned that the WWE.com clip of Bryan joining the Wyatt Family removed his comment about the machine never allowing him to win despite everyone's chants. I'm guessing he ad libbed that? Meanwhile, I was hoping it was the catalyst of him using the Wyatts to get revenge on the Authority. I also thought it was an important way to rationalize why he was offering himself to the Wyatts - he was tired of cheers not getting him anywhere, the beat downs, being outnumbered and the politics.
 
Brilliant move. I think DB joining the Wyatts after being abused by the authority will ultimately work. Now the Wyatts can watch his back as he pursues the title. Together, DB, Bray and co. will bring down the machine!

Also, what if DB and Bray were the last two in the rumble and Bray eliminated himself allowing DB to go after the title at Mania while Bray goes after Taker or Cena, or the Wyatts go after the Shield.
 
What I would love to happen but it probably won't is Wyatt is like a a friend of bryan helping him pursue the title but the problem is it just won't look too baby face ish. I still think they should have not gone this route and instead focused on him getting the title and qualifying through authority obstacles. But now I see things 2 ways.
1. Cena and orton get no contest at rumble
2. Wyatt cost cena title at elimination chamber

Or

1. Cena wins some how at rumble
2. Cena loses title at chamber because of Attack by Wyatt or something like that
 
I'm a little concerned that the WWE.com clip of Bryan joining the Wyatt Family removed his comment about the machine never allowing him to win despite everyone's chants. I'm guessing he ad libbed that? Meanwhile, I was hoping it was the catalyst of him using the Wyatts to get revenge on the Authority. I also thought it was an important way to rationalize why he was offering himself to the Wyatts - he was tired of cheers not getting him anywhere, the beat downs, being outnumbered and the politics.

Give this man the prize! When you want to know how Vince/HHH and Co. want the WWE Universe to view a storyline, watch the clips on WWE.com and pay attention to the edits. This reveals what they are thinking and how they plan on seeing certain storylines play out. And the fact that they edited out Bryan's comments about being beaten down constantly and the "Machine" never letting him win is H-U-G-E. That's why I don't have the faith that some of you do. And it's why I'm still skeptical about some bigger plan that creative has for Bryan to go over the Authority. I just don't think they give a rip and they are fine with letting his baby-face popularity go down the crapper by siding him with a group that isn't going to generate any positive heat. Unless things change quickly and it's revealed DBryan is playing the Wyatts, his popularity with the crowd will take a nose dive real fast. Count on it! And anyone that thinks Vince McMahon isn't capable of doing that - purely out of ego and pride - simply hasn't been watching the WWE for the last 20 years. He and his son-in-law are more than capable of sabotaging someone's popularity with the fans. Geesh! I can't believe anyone would think otherwise!

I hope that's not what's happening here. But I'm not nearly as confident as some of you are about this angle only being a great thing for Bryan. I think it's equally possible this could be a disaster for him.
 
I suppose Bryan quickly turning on Bray is a very boring option. I'd like to see they together for at least mania. The Wyatts can be pretty decent faces, on nxt near the end of their run over there, they got the crowd on their hands, add some Bryan steam to that you can get them over alright. The big payoff to what happened in 2013 is Bryan vs Triple H and the Wyatt character is a very anti-autority kind of gimmick... My bet is HHH vs Bryan and The Wyatts vs The Shield at Mania. I'm not buying Cm Punk vs HHH, punk will be at the title picture.
 
In my opinion, the follow up is what might make or break this angle. Daniel Bryan is extremely popular and while the obvious feeling is that he's turned heel, that's not necessarily so. After all, Wyatt's proposal is that "together" they "can bring this machine to its knees" with the "machine" being WWE and its power structure. So it MIGHT indicate that The Wyatt Family is going to be cast in some type of tweener role loyal only to themselves and their own goals and that they're going after The Authority. It may very well be a traditional heel situation, but a tweener situation is at least possible right now.

I'll be disappointed if Bryan ultimately becomes this quiet, drone-like lackey that's completely subservient to Wyatt. I do like the potential, however, of Bryan's character taking on a darker edge. After all, Bryan has tried to be the straight up guy who's been fighting the "good fight" in which he sticks his chest out and bravely does his best. However, The Authority are playing down & dirty, as have been The Shield and The Wyatt Family themselves, so Bryan's come to realize that being a straight up guy as he's been as become the equivalent of beating his head against a brick wall. He's been outnumbered, heavily so, by the two most dominant factions in WWE since Evolution and a corporate power structure that uses all the tricks to screw him over.
 
In my opinion, the follow up is what might make or break this angle. Daniel Bryan is extremely popular and while the obvious feeling is that he's turned heel, that's not necessarily so. After all, Wyatt's proposal is that "together" they "can bring this machine to its knees" with the "machine" being WWE and its power structure. So it MIGHT indicate that The Wyatt Family is going to be cast in some type of tweener role loyal only to themselves and their own goals and that they're going after The Authority. It may very well be a traditional heel situation, but a tweener situation is at least possible right now.

I'll be disappointed if Bryan ultimately becomes this quiet, drone-like lackey that's completely subservient to Wyatt. I do like the potential, however, of Bryan's character taking on a darker edge. After all, Bryan has tried to be the straight up guy who's been fighting the "good fight" in which he sticks his chest out and bravely does his best. However, The Authority are playing down & dirty, as have been The Shield and The Wyatt Family themselves, so Bryan's come to realize that being a straight up guy as he's been as become the equivalent of beating his head against a brick wall. He's been outnumbered, heavily so, by the two most dominant factions in WWE since Evolution and a corporate power structure that uses all the tricks to screw him over.

I agree with you on all counts, Jack-Hammer. It really will be about how this is handled going forward. It has the potential to be really good, or really bad, for Daniel Bryan.

Do you have an opinion on the WWE.com edits? Does this give you pause about how they want the story to progress? I'm worried that they chose to remove the most important comments from Bryan about being kept down by the machine. Seems strange that they eliminated that portion of what he said, but kept in everything else.
 
You guys do know that the Wyatt family is a heel faction. Which means that since bryan joined them it means he is now heel.... And you can't use cena joining nexus as excuse because their is a difference, cena was forced into the nexus while bryan chose to join Wyatt's on his own. The "machine" that bray talked about is the same thing as the devil... Just another crazy thing in his head that doesn't mean anything. I doubt they going against authority. Also how does it look that bryan gave up and decided to use help to become champion that doesn't sound very face like to me.. Personally it sounds like a heel move. I may be wrong, which I hope I am but we all the truth.
 
Vince has just came out in the past week stating their are no more faces and heels. So what better way then putting his most over face with his biggest full heel group????? Bryan and The Wyatts.......Goat face and the man who wears a sheeps mask????? Clearly this is being set up for Bryan to attack the Authority from the inside, he will have the Wyatts take out The Shield so he can get a clear shot at HHH
 
Give this man the prize! When you want to know how Vince/HHH and Co. want the WWE Universe to view a storyline, watch the clips on WWE.com and pay attention to the edits. This reveals what they are thinking and how they plan on seeing certain storylines play out.

I'm not familiar with the editing at WWE.com. When have they edited something before to reveal what they are thinking and how did it play out?

And the fact that they edited out Bryan's comments about being beaten down constantly and the "Machine" never letting him win is H-U-G-E.

I'm not saying I'm right but wouldn't it be consistent with the personality of The Authority to edit their website to take out things that made them look like tyrnats? Sounds logical to me that kayfabe goes beyond the TV shows.

That's why I don't have the faith that some of you do.

And yet you continue to watch. You're not supposed to know what is going to happen. Just enjoy it.

And it's why I'm still skeptical about some bigger plan that creative has for Bryan to go over the Authority. I just don't think they give a rip and they are fine with letting his baby-face popularity go down the crapper by siding him with a group that isn't going to generate any positive heat.

Or maybe their giving people a reason to tune in next week to see how Bryan looks and acts as a member of the Wyatts.

Unless things change quickly and it's revealed DBryan is playing the Wyatts, his popularity with the crowd will take a nose dive real fast. Count on it!

I'm guessing you said similar things after he lost in 18 seconds at WM, or hot thrown in a tag team, or got beat down by The Authority week after week.

But I'm sure you're right this time.

And anyone that thinks Vince McMahon isn't capable of doing that - purely out of ego and pride - simply hasn't been watching the WWE for the last 20 years. He and his son-in-law are more than capable of sabotaging someone's popularity with the fans. Geesh! I can't believe anyone would think otherwise!

I'm not saying Vince is flawless but there is a reason he is a very rich man and it is not because his ego is so big. Why does Vince have it out for DB? Why would Vince sabotage DB? DB sounds like a nice guy and good employee. Vince/HHH hired the guy, twice. They gave him a MiTB win, multiple mid card title reigns, a long WHC reign, girlfriends galore, the responsibilty of making the tag division important, wins over Orton, a main event win over their biggest draw in their second biggest PPV of the year, and now he has a huge role in two of the last three main storyline in WWE.

Vince and HHH LOVE DANIEL BRYAN!!!!!!

I hope that's not what's happening here. But I'm not nearly as confident as some of you are about this angle only being a great thing for Bryan. I think it's equally possible this could be a disaster for him.

Are you sure you are a fan of the guy?
 
I didn't know until today that he joined them. After Stephanie announced another Cena match against Orton for the belt I turned off the show there's too much other stuff I can watch. How many years do we have to watch the same damn show over and over with Cena playing the same character? I didn't think they would bury Bryan like they did week after week with no pay off in the end. That alone has made me watch Raw on perpetual fast forward when I can remember. Mark Madden has been right all along as was Russo in a recent shoot interview about being able to predict shows six months in advance without watching, and backstage agendas. The fans are still behind Bryan though, but wouldn't be surprised if they have him out there next week telling them they all suck, and the Wyatt's are his family. You have them putting Lesnar in the main event now and Batista also returning. In the 90s they would have given guys that got over like Bryan a push and ran with it while ratings climb. Now WWE exists to serve the ego and agenda of Vince, HHH, or Chyna McMahon. It's almost a bad thing if you get over in spite of them. Where is Zack Ryder? They probably have him carrying Cena's bags. They pick stale stars to promote (guys Vince wants to probably have sex with) and by God it doesn't matter what organic movements come from the fans. Like Heyman says Vince gets mad when he sneezes and can't control it. He isn't going to let DB ever be the top guy. Instead he can sit back and watch Randy Orton, and Cena roll around on the ground in the ring while he licks his lips watching on the monitor.
 
It's interesting reading the posts in here of George Steele's Barber and Jack-Hammer, two of the guys on here that always seem to be rational and don't particularly have a WWE or anti-WWE bias.

It's food for thought, I personally don't see it being a case of sabotaging Bryan but I'm not convinced it's going to be a case of pushing him in a way that will result in a glorious World title win many, myself admittedly included, would like to see.

My feeling is that Bryan may be used as Bray's surrogate to fight Cena in some weird soul saving angle, I can see WWE wanting to utilize the Bray Wyatt character in a big angle with Cena but at the same time knowing he is nowhere near ready to hang with Cena in the caliber of match they'd want for the top guy at the biggest show of the year. So Bray handles the promos and Bryan handles the wrestling, that's my current theory anyway.

If it turns out that way it'll be another great heroic moment for Cena and it will establish Bray Wyatt as main event presence at the very least, for Bryan it'll prove what a good Kane-esque employee he is.
 
I want my damn Wyatt Vs. Shield at WM and my DB Vs. Punk for the title in an ironman match!

I'll wait and see what's going on but I just can't even deal with this. It would've been nice to see Punk with the RR and for DB to win the title at RR. Hell, at this point I wouldn't even mind Punk being in the match some how.
 

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