While I agree with Sly here... I don't think you need that match at the Rumble. The logic is perfect, but let's be honest here... the Rumble sells itself. IMO, Wyatt/Bryan isn't a match that's going to make someone that wasn't getting the Rumble... get the Rumble. I can barely name a relevant non-title singles match that has taken place at the Rumble in 20 years. This will be the same. Will it be a great match? Hell yes it will. I'm attending so I'm excited I get to see this. But it's just not something that is going to garner a significant number of PPV buys in itself. Now if you want to announce Jake the Snake is going to be in the Rumble, or Hogan is going to do some sort of appearance, that will sell PPV buys. Those are "need to see" moments. But when someone can pay $9.99 to watch it via WWE Network next month, I don't Wyatt/Bryan turning it into a "must see live" PPV.
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Daniel Bryan has Left The Wyatt Family : The Right Call?
- Thread starter pepentorresHHH
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While I agree with Sly here... I don't think you need that match at the Rumble. The logic is perfect, but let's be honest here... the Rumble sells itself. IMO, Wyatt/Bryan isn't a match that's going to make someone that wasn't getting the Rumble... get the Rumble. I can barely name a relevant non-title singles match that has taken place at the Rumble in 20 years. This will be the same. Will it be a great match? Hell yes it will. I'm attending so I'm excited I get to see this. But it's just not something that is going to garner a significant number of PPV buys in itself. Now if you want to announce Jake the Snake is going to be in the Rumble, or Hogan is going to do some sort of appearance, that will sell PPV buys. Those are "need to see" moments. But when someone can pay $9.99 to watch it via WWE Network next month, I don't Wyatt/Bryan turning it into a "must see live" PPV.
Ol'Canucklehead
Pre-Show Stalwart
The only people griping are the ones that though Bray Wyatt was going to go over on DB. Wake up call. That was NEVER going to happen. DB>BW in all aspects. If you still think he is popular because of the chants you are delusional. They also chant his name if you haven't been paying attention. The fans wanted this to happen. You are a minority. You can blame WWE writing if you want. Sure it was a little rushed but like I've said before, how often is a storyline focused on both RAW and Smackdown. Now the Wyatts will either make sure DB doesn't win the Rumble or we may see DB eliminate ALL of them. I don't think he will win it because they will end the feud at EC and then bring on Taker. DB will end the streak. Yes! Yes! Yes!
The Life Of Pablo Ren
I know my name/avi/sig don't match.
While you DEFINITELY could argue that it happened too early, I think the way they did it was perfect. I never expected the relationship between Bryan and The Wyatt's to last very long, my prediction though was that it would end at The Royal Rumble in the match itself.
As I said though, the way they did it last night was near flawless, I was grinning from ear to ear and I can't remember the last time wrestling made me do that. It's funny because a few days ago I had an argument with someone who said that Bryan was the most over guy in the company. I argued against it, saying he was second or third but boy was I wrong.
I think it's a good move, however I am a bit worried for Bryan. I don't expect him to win the Rumble, I believe that'll go to either Batista or Reigns. It just seems as if he literally has no path for WrestleMania. It would seem as if all of the other high-tier stars have their names attached to someone and Bryan's the odd man out. I hope this isn't the case, but we'll see.
As I said though, the way they did it last night was near flawless, I was grinning from ear to ear and I can't remember the last time wrestling made me do that. It's funny because a few days ago I had an argument with someone who said that Bryan was the most over guy in the company. I argued against it, saying he was second or third but boy was I wrong.
I think it's a good move, however I am a bit worried for Bryan. I don't expect him to win the Rumble, I believe that'll go to either Batista or Reigns. It just seems as if he literally has no path for WrestleMania. It would seem as if all of the other high-tier stars have their names attached to someone and Bryan's the odd man out. I hope this isn't the case, but we'll see.
OK, if he really did leave why did they even do this in the first place
Okay, I'll answer this in two parts (what really happened and what the "storyline" was and will be).
1) The "real" story (imho) is that Vince concocted this idiotic storyline in hopes of putting Bray over more, and at the same time possibly hoped to cool Bryan's heat. About the only thing we know for sure is that this was totally a Vince idea and he really had no well-thought out conclusion. What I believe happened is that creative saw it was going nowhere quick and simply decided to drop it. This has happened so many times in the past there's little doubt in my mind it could be as simple as that. They dropped an angle quickly because they had no clue what to do with it.
2) The "storyline" should be (the only logical explanation, imho) a simple one: Daniel knew he couldn't get to Bray as long as his goons were around so he decided to infiltrate the group and wait for the right opportunity to get his hands on Bray. The locked cage was that chance. This is honestly the only thing that makes sense with such a quick "payoff" to the angle. All they have to do is give Bryan 20 seconds on the mic to explain this very thing and boom, you've got your explanation.
It's a difficult one. I liked the idea of him joining and thereafter there aren't many options. Stay or leave.
Bryan left the Wyatt Family and I have no issue with the concept, merely the timing. This had decent potential and I was looking forward to Bryan being completely void of his old self. Bryan is a talented guy: maybe have him wrestle a few matches with a completely different moveset. Just for a week or two and the commentators really emphasis it. I reckon the WWE panicked at changed him back before they got the chance to stick their teeth into the idea.
Of course the other option was Bryan staying with the family and achieving success. That is interesting but it doesn't make sense for such an over superstar to be permanently in a heel tag-team. The fans want to cheer for Bryan; they want to buy his T-shirts: there is no point tampering with that. The idea, however, of a heel Bryan feuding with Cena or Punk was intriguing and I would of liked to see that.
I think they took Bryan out the family a little early. Maybe they want him to win the Rumble. Who knows.
Bryan left the Wyatt Family and I have no issue with the concept, merely the timing. This had decent potential and I was looking forward to Bryan being completely void of his old self. Bryan is a talented guy: maybe have him wrestle a few matches with a completely different moveset. Just for a week or two and the commentators really emphasis it. I reckon the WWE panicked at changed him back before they got the chance to stick their teeth into the idea.
Of course the other option was Bryan staying with the family and achieving success. That is interesting but it doesn't make sense for such an over superstar to be permanently in a heel tag-team. The fans want to cheer for Bryan; they want to buy his T-shirts: there is no point tampering with that. The idea, however, of a heel Bryan feuding with Cena or Punk was intriguing and I would of liked to see that.
I think they took Bryan out the family a little early. Maybe they want him to win the Rumble. Who knows.
Cody Trail
Occasional Pre-Show
Do you understand the point of the PPV business? The point is to get people to buy the PPV. By turning on Wyatt now, you sell an encounter at the Royal Rumble. Why would the WWE give away a money producing storyline at a show people have already paid for? PPVs are meant to be the payoff of a storyline, not the beginning of it.
Do you understand that Daniel Bryan joining The Wyatt Family, just to finally get his hands on Bray Wyatt himself, was the big payoff of the whole "Daniel Wyatt" episode? This was supposed to be a main storyline, and there were probably a lot of fans out there that were planning on buying the Royal Rumble PPV just to see Daniel Bryan ditch the jumpsuit and Bray Wyatt finally get his ass kicked. Why would they order it now? We just saw it for free on television.
Do you understand that Daniel Bryan joining The Wyatt Family, just to finally get his hands on Bray Wyatt himself, was the big payoff of the whole "Daniel Wyatt" episode? This was supposed to be a main storyline, and there were probably a lot of fans out there that were planning on buying the Royal Rumble PPV just to see Daniel Bryan ditch the jumpsuit and Bray Wyatt finally get his ass kicked. Why would they order it now? We just saw it for free on television.
I take it Daniel Bryan defying the odds John Cena-style and winning the Rumble won't be good enough to get the buyrates up?
Because if not, then what the [BLEEP] does the IWC want anyway?
I remember when they had a chance to book Rey Mysterio into the SES, and they didn't. At the time, I thought that would have been the better course of action, to see what Rey was like as a resistent minion of Punk's, but I'm guessing that Rey vetoed that, or WWE knew that just months later, they would have another big-name join a heel faction unwillingly, when John Cena joined Nexus.
This, however, was done with intent, and two weeks later, he's back to fighting with Bray and his minions. It's simply too soon. Maybe he saw no change, or rather, with the Wyatt's he saw one for the worse. He hadn't won a match since joining the Wyatt family, none of the Wyatt's had, and he saw that he was further from taking the machinw down now then he would be if he stayed. He was 0-2 teaming with their leader in one night, to the Usos at that, a team not known for their high winning percentage. Or perhaps, he got tired of Bray's unwashed locks touching him, as he felt they were even nastier then his.
But likely, it was because he was tired of taking Sister Abagail's every time he lost, bringing him no closer to his goal of becoming a champion, and because WWE has a schizophrenic booking team that can't be relied upon to produce solid, drawn out storylines.
Any way you look at it, I'm glad Bryan is seemingly back on his own. He's always accomplished the most that way. He lost his World Title to Sheamus when he had AJ by his side. Soon after it was revealed that Bryan had two women interested in him(in storyline) in the Bella Twins, it was revealed he was in a storyline relationship with Gail Kim, and he then quickly lost his U.S. Title to Sheamus.
Though it didn't work out quite the way we would have liked, he won two WWE Championships on his own, and his only U.S. and World Titles as well. It wasn't until the introduced different players into his storylines that his struggles began.
But likely, I'm thinking too hard about this, and it was simply too soon to break Bryan away from the Wyatt's, and that they shouldn't have put him with them at all if the only thing they were planning on doing was have them split 2 weeks later.
But man, how about that crowd after Bryan destroyed Bray? It's the loudest I've EVER heard them get for Bryan and his Yes! chant, and it truly was awesome.
This, however, was done with intent, and two weeks later, he's back to fighting with Bray and his minions. It's simply too soon. Maybe he saw no change, or rather, with the Wyatt's he saw one for the worse. He hadn't won a match since joining the Wyatt family, none of the Wyatt's had, and he saw that he was further from taking the machinw down now then he would be if he stayed. He was 0-2 teaming with their leader in one night, to the Usos at that, a team not known for their high winning percentage. Or perhaps, he got tired of Bray's unwashed locks touching him, as he felt they were even nastier then his.
But likely, it was because he was tired of taking Sister Abagail's every time he lost, bringing him no closer to his goal of becoming a champion, and because WWE has a schizophrenic booking team that can't be relied upon to produce solid, drawn out storylines.
Any way you look at it, I'm glad Bryan is seemingly back on his own. He's always accomplished the most that way. He lost his World Title to Sheamus when he had AJ by his side. Soon after it was revealed that Bryan had two women interested in him(in storyline) in the Bella Twins, it was revealed he was in a storyline relationship with Gail Kim, and he then quickly lost his U.S. Title to Sheamus.
Though it didn't work out quite the way we would have liked, he won two WWE Championships on his own, and his only U.S. and World Titles as well. It wasn't until the introduced different players into his storylines that his struggles began.
But likely, I'm thinking too hard about this, and it was simply too soon to break Bryan away from the Wyatt's, and that they shouldn't have put him with them at all if the only thing they were planning on doing was have them split 2 weeks later.
But man, how about that crowd after Bryan destroyed Bray? It's the loudest I've EVER heard them get for Bryan and his Yes! chant, and it truly was awesome.
Softcore Holly
Only Holly to never hold HC title
Definitely too soon, it felt like it ended before it actually got started which in turn made the whole thing feel like a waste of time. Like OK now we go back to where we were 2 weeks ago and pretend the whole thing never happened? Like seriously what was the point? DB didn't get any more over, it didn't help the Wyatts any since all they did was lose and they accomplished absolutely nothing, if anything it hurt the Wyatts a lot more then it helped since their huge plan of trying to convert Bryan ended before it actually took off.
I've seen people mention the huge pop he got, but we all know he would've gotten that huge pop no matter when he did it. So no that's not enough of a payoff for me. I wasn't a huge fan of the idea in the first place, but I saw the potential and was willing to give them a chance to prove themselves. But for that all I got was disappointment. I guess thanks for making me pay for putting trust in you WWE.
I've seen people mention the huge pop he got, but we all know he would've gotten that huge pop no matter when he did it. So no that's not enough of a payoff for me. I wasn't a huge fan of the idea in the first place, but I saw the potential and was willing to give them a chance to prove themselves. But for that all I got was disappointment. I guess thanks for making me pay for putting trust in you WWE.
Just thinking about this from a character perspective, it made no sense to end this last night. Was it a ruse from the beginning? Did Daniel Bryan simply have enough after a few weeks? Seriously, what was the motivation behind turning again so soon?
... when the turn first happened a few weeks ago, the thought was that he'd turn on Bray at The Rumble. This made sense to me. If Bryan wants to win The Rumble, then his best bet would have been to work as a team with three other lunatics that had his back. Certainly, that would've been a better strategy than trying to navigate The Rumble with those same three lunatics working together to take him out. By turning now, as opposed to waiting 'til The Rumble, it's like he painted an even bigger bulls eye on his back during The Rumble.
... when the turn first happened a few weeks ago, the thought was that he'd turn on Bray at The Rumble. This made sense to me. If Bryan wants to win The Rumble, then his best bet would have been to work as a team with three other lunatics that had his back. Certainly, that would've been a better strategy than trying to navigate The Rumble with those same three lunatics working together to take him out. By turning now, as opposed to waiting 'til The Rumble, it's like he painted an even bigger bulls eye on his back during The Rumble.
Poop Master Flex
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Going by how the fans reacted last night its the right move. I get the "they did it too soon" argument but I don't know if it was too soon. The way I see it there is a very good chance Bryan is winning the Rumble this year (or Batista), maybe the Wyatt storyline was to give Bryan something to do before his program with Orton or whoever else he faces against at Wrestlemania.
I seriously question if this was supposed to be some huge storyline for WWE or was it just a way to elevate the Wyatt's while giving Bryan something to do until Wrestlemania season. Besides, why turn at the Rumble when you can turn before and get a buyrate hike out of it?
I seriously question if this was supposed to be some huge storyline for WWE or was it just a way to elevate the Wyatt's while giving Bryan something to do until Wrestlemania season. Besides, why turn at the Rumble when you can turn before and get a buyrate hike out of it?
having it happen so quickly I guess was to catch the fans off guard, well mission accomplished. Bryan now wionning the Royal Rumble without assistance will have him ev more over. Also if reports are true and Undertaker has requested a one on one match with Bryan for Wrestlemania, Bryan being hugely over and solo would work into that fueds favour, in my opinion. Taker doesnt need to be getting beaten down by 3-4 guys each week and Bray is the leader of the Wyatts, so it would stand to reason Taker would have no reason for a match with Bryan if Bray Wyatt is the leader iof the Wyatts.
I am hoping WWE finally pull the trugger onm Bryan,. have him win the Rumble, go on and meet John Cena for the title at Mania 30 and beat him clean to a huge standing YES YES YES ovation, I believe he can be the man for the next part of 2014. Cena could turn o Bryan and attack him after the match and lead to the Cena heel turn everybody has been calling for
I am hoping WWE finally pull the trugger onm Bryan,. have him win the Rumble, go on and meet John Cena for the title at Mania 30 and beat him clean to a huge standing YES YES YES ovation, I believe he can be the man for the next part of 2014. Cena could turn o Bryan and attack him after the match and lead to the Cena heel turn everybody has been calling for
After the Michigan State video came out, it would have been dumb for him not capitalize on the publicity.
Look at the publicity rapper Rich Homie Quan got for associating with their football team. At the end of the day, it's about making money and I'm sure Vince look at what's best for business.
It's been speculated Bray faces off against Bryan at Royal Rumble, I'm glad the storyline is going to be over. It's been almost three months (started the day after Hell In A Cell) since the storyline been going on, it's peaked - time for them all to move on to bigger and better things.
I wouldn't mind seeing The Wyatt Family capture the tag team titles and Bray finds somebody else to pick on like Big E.
Look at the publicity rapper Rich Homie Quan got for associating with their football team. At the end of the day, it's about making money and I'm sure Vince look at what's best for business.
It's been speculated Bray faces off against Bryan at Royal Rumble, I'm glad the storyline is going to be over. It's been almost three months (started the day after Hell In A Cell) since the storyline been going on, it's peaked - time for them all to move on to bigger and better things.
I wouldn't mind seeing The Wyatt Family capture the tag team titles and Bray finds somebody else to pick on like Big E.
Cody Trail
Occasional Pre-Show
I take it Daniel Bryan defying the odds John Cena-style and winning the Rumble won't be good enough to get the buyrates up?
Because if not, then what the [BLEEP] does the IWC want anyway?
He could've turned on Wyatt at the beginning of the night, and then won the Rumble at the end. Then, to keep him busy until Mania, Bryan could've had that final one-on-one with Wyatt at the Chamber.
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