"Cold Blooded" Matt Hardy?

I saw on another post that Matt Hardy's character has potential. Maybe like a Brian Pillman, Loose Cannon, Randy Orton Viper, or Edge type of character. I get it. It's not my favorite character, but I could see it.

Here's my problem, you cannot just tell everyone you are now going to be cold blooded. It needs to be a transition that we can watch for ourselves. The announcers can help in the process. Randy Orton went from a pretty boy to a gut who hears voices in his head in a long drawn out process. Do I like watch him bounce around like a snake now every time he's going to hit the RKO, no, but it is a believable character for him now because he put the time in. You never heard him say, okay, now I am going to be this bad ass, watch me.

Hardy is trying to tell us he is cold blooded but you watch his matches and it is the same ole crap. He needs to develop a finishing move that would put you out for a while. He needs to take time developing this side of him. I would love to see him even shave his head to make it more of a transition. Have him slowly leave a pool of victims and then I will believe he is cold blooded. Right now, it's not believable. That is my problem with Hardy. Some of you will argue that he shouldn't even be in TNA...he is deal with it. Some will say he is fat and out of shape...so is Samoa Joe and a lot of you will argue he is more deserving.

TNA tries to slap a character or storyline or feud on us in a week instead of putting in the time to develop it. This is one that needs time to make it work, Hardy has a long way to go from fan favorite in WWE to Cold Blooded, will TNA allow the time to develop it?
 
Time to develop? The only thing Matt Hardy is going to develop in TNA is an even bigger stomach.

Maybe if Matt didn't have a history of making nothing out of something, I could buy into it. Matt has never done anything great outside of tag-team wrestling, and he's never made the most out of any push he's been given. In WWE, he was given several opportunities to rise above mediocrity, and he didn't. I see no indication of real change coming during his tenure with TNA.

He can be cold blooded, hot blooded, it doesn't matter. He's already doing (in TNA) what he does best; backing up Jeff. He's been given nothing to do since arriving in TNA, and I doubt that's going to change. I'm starting to realize that Matt Hardy is the only one who believes in Matt Hardy.
 
Did anyone watch the PPV last night? If you think Matt Hardy is fat, you're seriously ******ed. I think the cold blooded thing can work for him but you're right OP, it needs to be shown and not just said. I just don't think he's good enough to get the character over IMO. His mic skills aren't bad, but they aren't good enough to cement the gimmick change. He needs to do something to somebody that makes you say "Damn, if that happened in real life, that dude would be fucked!" But TNA needs to realize this too, and their heads are so far up their own asses that I don't see it happening.
 
By no means do I love Matt Hardy, but the man is getting in better shape. I used to be a tiny bit of a Matt fan until his stupid antics via youtube, but he's slowly gaining my respect back. I think he's trying to do something different in TNA. He's always been the super baby face character who stands for everything that is right or the cowardly heel that people actually loved to a certain extent. I think the whole public shunning him and the promo last night about being punished for his brother's sins were enough of an explanation as to why he's "Cold Blooded". If you think about it, he's been shit on by his employer since him and Jeff broke up. That's a lot of years in the making of this heel turn. We've seen babyfaces turn heel in the snap of a finger on WWE, TNA and even in WCW programming with no warning coming... why is there a double standard when it comes to Matt? Again, I don't love Matt Hardy as a performer or person by any means, just playing devil's advocate here.
 
THing is, Matt Hardy could do well, really well, but he doesn't put in enough effort, he half-asses is and expects to get over e.g. his fued with Jeff, he half assed it and the fued was shit. Jeff at least tries, his Antichrist gimmick, you can see he's really trying to be a good heel. If Matt Hardy wants to get over he has to go the whole way.

This. He doesn't put enough effort into it. I remember watching Matt vs. Edge in a cage on a ppv I watched a while back (don't ask me which one, I'm not going to go digging through my vids to find it and I can't remember. Sue me.) and it was an excellent, top notch match. And before you think it, I like neither Edge nor Matt. Don't hate them, but they're not on my list of faves to be certain.

He seems to be doing what a lot of ex-WWE talent seems to be doing when they go to TNA, and that is to just go through the motions. They don't suck by any means, they just don't seem to have the energy or work rate they used to have. Whether it's because they have a lighter schedule and just want to enjoy it/relax/half ass things, or whatever the reason, it seems that way w/a few of them (RVD, for example).


Lots of people criticizing Matt for being fat, when I'm pretty sure theres been worse out of shape wrestlers. The Great Dusty Rhodes was not the most ripped and fit looking of men. But to each their own.

I do not like Matt Hardy. I HATE Triple H but Matt Hardy is one of those guys who is trying to be self important. When you have no where else to go and can do no more because you feel held down you do what you must to make it. I don't at all agree with what he does. I feel he makes his own problems.

To say you have weight issues because of a condition when we see you and your brother ripping on someone at a restaurant or diner at God knows what hour devouring a fried app platter you must be blind sir.

To do something spur of the moment and make people think your going to kill yourself or others and act mysterious as a cry of help or a way out, does not garner you brownie points in the sanity department.

Matt was excellent during Mattitude. He certainly stepped up to the plate in 2002 when his brother fled ship. I feel Matt could have been the being world champion at one point. However, as one poster pointed out he now feels like he is owed something and he goes about it in what I consider to be the worst way possible.

Matt is also very good to his fans. He takes time to do what most others do not. That however, is also a two edged sword because it comes off as forced and cheesey sometimes in my opinion.

I do not EVER wish Matt to die or kill himself. That's an awful and disrespectful thing to say to anyone. But everyone has a right to their opinion.

I think its way too late for Matt Hardy to make up for his shovelling but never say never. I don't think TNA will give him success, for he already had it in the WWE. He was just too blinded to realize it.

Have a good day folks.

This, also. Make fun of him all you want, he's lost a hell of a lot of weight. Post some pics of your abs and see how bad Hardy looks compared to you.

And just because he says he has a weight problem, yet is seen eating crap at a diner, doesn't mean he eats that way all the time. He is also working out at the gym, so he's going to be hungry more often than not. Plus, what if that's the diet he's used to and he can't change it completely yet? I have been losing weight by changing my diet around. I still eat pizza and the occasional fast food, and believe me I can still eat the hell out of some pizza. I've still lost weight, though, and as long as I eat it in moderation it doesn't kill my diet. I wasn't grossly overweight by any means, but I still wanted to nip it in the bud and trim down for my health. (Yes, I have pics in the Post Your Pic thread. Do you, fat joke throwers?)

I can't believe all the comments about how Matt is fat or a tub of lard, etc. Grow up, guys. You sound like a clique of 13 year old girls. I'm sorry he's not sexy enough for you because he doesn't have John Morrison's abs. I would rather a wrestler not have a perfectly toned six-pack than to be shortening his lifetime with rampant steroid use just to please a small percentage of male fans on the internet. But, that's just me.

As far as the "Cold Blood" gimmick goes, first of all I WILL agree that it's not the most original nickname. It's not only unoriginal, but keeps reminding me of "Stone Cold." I understand Matt going for a heel gimmick with Immortal and wanting a new wicked nickname, but that name is kind of a poor choice that I don't think is going to catch on. Back when he betrayed Jeff for his last heel run in WWE, he was briefly going by "The Black Cloud" Matt Hardy, which is much better in comparison.

The braids have got to go. If Matt seriously wants to finally make it to the top as a singles star, he needs to stay out of Jeff's shadow as much as possible (his best time as a singles competitor in WWE was when Jeff wasn't around, coincidence?). Having those braids or any kind of crazy, colorful hairstyle is just too much like Jeff. Personally, I think Matt should just buzz the hair off.

I do think Matt has the potential to be a good serious heel. I think the biggest reason his heel run after betraying Jeff wasn't very successful was because he didn't reinvent his character along with it. Look at guys like Hollywood Hogan or on a smaller scale JBL. When they had their big heel turns, they completely revamped their characters along with it (new look, attitude, etc.). When Matt turned heel, all he did was put on a pair of tights with a key on them. He was too similar to face Matt Hardy, not enough changed. So I think people found it too hard to accept this "dark" Matt Hardy as he was still too much like the babyface we've been cheering for for years.

Matt needs to ditch the wacky hair and the baggy pants and reinvent himself into an original new character to have his best shot as succeeding as a top guy. I even like the MATTHEW alter-ego that he's introduced in Youtube videos and since everyone thinks he's a nut anyway, I think a bi-polar lunatic gimmick would really suit him well. I think he does have the potential to succeed, and with TNA giving him more creative control over his own character than WWE, now it's totally up to Matt to get over and stay over, and I'll be watching TNA to see how he does. I'm definitely curious.

And finally, this.

Matt can actually be decent enough when he puts his mind to it. He does need to re-invent himself though, as the poster above mentions. Just wearing a different coat and braiding his hair isn't enough. Maybe try a different type of pants altogether. I know he can't change his actions as drastically as others, or maybe he can. Who knows?

I'm by no means a "blind Hardy mark". I do think Matt performs on a level in the ring that can hold it's own compared to others, and maybe not as good as some. But that's where he could do his most good is in the mid-card bracket. Maybe a TV title run. Don't think he's main event material, but you never know. If he can stop acting like an immature little shithead and better himself FOR himself, and get a more mature attitude, maybe he could surprise more than disappoint.

Edit: ramblinroy682 made a good point. You can't just come out and say "Hey, I'm going to be cold blooded now. Just wait and see. I'm bringing Cold Blooded Matt Hardy to TNA". It just screams desperation, self-promotion, and over-selling. Don't say it, do it, and let the announcers say "Damn, Matt's become pretty cold blooded" and then let it just become a nickname. TNA is bad about shit like that. Hogan and Bischoff pounded that shit to death (the same way they did in WCW) by TELLING people they are great, they will be great, you better watch this match because it's going to "raise the bar" or change the face of wrestling, or we're re-inventing professional wrestling, or any of that stupid, beat it to death nonsense. Tell the story through your actions and your product. Don't tell people what to do or what to like, especially if you're going to disappoint all the time or not live up to your own hype. Show the story, don't tell people what to look for. It just makes you look like an ass and a tool.
 
From what I've seen so far, Matt Hardy has been nothing more than a lackey on TNA TV... not specifically to his brother Jeff, but to Immortal in general. His jumping up and down, effectively yelling "you tell 'em boss!" during Eric Bischoffs confrontation with Angle and Steiner two weeks ago was straight out of Stevie Richards playbook. If Hardy is trying to get "Cold Blooded" over, this ain't the way to do it.

I didn't see the PPV last night, but as far as Matt Hardy is concerned, why should I have? The way Matt has been portrayed is as Immortals fall guy of sorts. Was Cold Blooded on display against RVD last night? I wouldn't have known... he wasn't built up that way going in. That's the problem. "Cold Blood" elicits a certain persona by its very nature... a cold, calculating heel that would throw his own brother under the bus for even a small taste of fame and fortune. A guy who has been abused, misused, and mistreated for a very long time and has proverbially said "to hell" with everyone except himself. He's a guy who will risk life and limb in the ring to destroy his adversaries, because he's "cold blooded"... he just doesn't care anymore.

Putting Matt with Immortal has done a lot to pour water on the candle wick before the spark of opportunity can even be ignited. He's playing third or fourth (nevermind second) fiddle to his brother amongst Immortal, and he has been nothing but a cheerleader for Eric Bischoff himself... oh, and he's 1 and 1 against RVD. The character has potential... I guess unless you've ordered TNA PPV, you just haven't seen it yet.

"Cold Blood" needs to be built up on TV... and not just in a single 12 second backstage promo either.
 
I doubt this character will work. The name alone is contrived and cliche. It's a stupid gimmick in my opinion.

That being said, it's all about how someone is going to work it. However, the bad part for Mr. hardy is that he's the one working it. He's not good enough on the mic to get the fans to react strictly to the promo, let alone if he's trying to prove how ruthless he is.

I'm not the biggest Hardy Boy hater, but this gimmick is simply not suited for him and will likely fail.
 
From what I've seen so far, Matt Hardy has been nothing more than a lackey on TNA TV... not specifically to his brother Jeff, but to Immortal in general. His jumping up and down, effectively yelling "you tell 'em boss!" during Eric Bischoffs confrontation with Angle and Steiner two weeks ago was straight out of Stevie Richards playbook. If Hardy is trying to get "Cold Blooded" over, this ain't the way to do it.

I didn't see the PPV last night, but as far as Matt Hardy is concerned, why should I have? The way Matt has been portrayed is as Immortals fall guy of sorts. Was Cold Blooded on display against RVD last night? I wouldn't have known... he wasn't built up that way going in. That's the problem. "Cold Blood" elicits a certain persona by its very nature... a cold, calculating heel that would throw his own brother under the bus for even a small taste of fame and fortune. A guy who has been abused, misused, and mistreated for a very long time and has proverbially said "to hell" with everyone except himself. He's a guy who will risk life and limb in the ring to destroy his adversaries, because he's "cold blooded"... he just doesn't care anymore.

Putting Matt with Immortal has done a lot to pour water on the candle wick before the spark of opportunity can even be ignited. He's playing third or fourth (nevermind second) fiddle to his brother amongst Immortal, and he has been nothing but a cheerleader for Eric Bischoff himself... oh, and he's 1 and 1 against RVD. The character has potential... I guess unless you've ordered TNA PPV, you just haven't seen it yet.

"Cold Blood" needs to be built up on TV... and not just in a single 12 second backstage promo either.

I think having Matt put with Immortal is the start of things to come. He will eventually get tired of the whole Bischoff regime and go out for himself and take all those guys out. It has to be a transition. If Matt just showed up in TNA and all of the sudden starts taking out Jeff, it's sort of like a flash in a pan. Things have to built first. Alliances have to be made and broken in TNA for Matt. Remember, it's his new start. He's cold blooded because of WWE and not TNA. He has to be there for a while before he has a reason to start taking people out. Just my two cents..
 
I liked the introduction of "Cold Blooded" Matt Hardy. He looked like he was in good shape, he had a decent promo where he explained himself to introduce this new persona, and the match he had with RVD was really good. I'd call that a success, even if it's only such a small one that many choose to bury or dis-acknowledge it. Matt Hardy has repackaged himself with the consent of TNA and I like the wrapping.

For the last year or two of his WWE run, Matt was just running in place. He didn't seem very passionate about what he was doing in the ring. That, was likely because he didn't feel motivated knowing he was stuck where he had been for some time. With no carrot at the end of the stick he found it hard to keep the wheels on the bus going around and around. TNA fortunately had a carrot to spare. They have let Matt Hardy display to them who the character Matt Hardy is supposed to be(same with Jeff and I like that too).

This is most of the reason why I am ok with the "Cold Blooded" gimmick. It's not the WWE's "Interpretation" of Matt Hardy or any concoction of theirs where they are saying "This is who your character is, how he acts, how he walks, how he talks". This is from the man himself and is thusly an extension of him. That is more authentic if you ask me. He is more invested in this more authentic extension of himself and how he's felt, which means he will put more effort forth in making that character entertaining fixing half the problem.

Am I the only one who witnessed that sweet submission he revealed as well? I thought that was really cool, or "cold blooded" as the character might say. That to me, is a good sign of things to come. A subtle change here, a subtle change there, presto! A new and much improved character has developed over (insert period of time). I think that is exactly what Matt is doing and I also think that's a good idea. You think what you've seen already is the whole shebang? I doubt it.

I have been a fan of Matt's for a long time now. I've always appreciated what he's done in and out of the ring, even when it was less than I felt he could deliver. I have always hoped to see Matt Hardy as a top guy, feeling that he has the stuff to do it, and has really earned it over the years. I am hoping that maybe this opportunity in TNA will see Matt Hardy winning his first World Title, much like Anderson has. This is the place where he could do it, and I think this character could be the one to reach that point as well. I think he's really on to something with it and am excited to see where it all goes from here.
 
I hate Matt Hardy. I hate his braids, I hate his coat, I hate his fucked up knees, I hate him in the ring, I hate him on the mic, I hate his "Mattitude", there's never been a moment in my entire life when I thought "Matt Hardy's pretty good". Fuck that guy, I didn't want him anywhere near TNA to begin with, he's a waste of time, waste of money, waste of waste.

Matt Hardy sucks. Period. He's never been a good actor, he just comes off fake and cheesy. I don't think this gimmick will work, I don't think ANY gimmick will work. I hope he gets a "gets fired because he blows boat people gimmick". He'll rule as that guy.

I agree, seriously, Im just all aorund tired of Matt hardy, He was never over like Jeff until Edge banged his girl, period, I usually don't speak so candidly, but he is such a band wagon hopper its ridiculous, he left Wwe, by begging to leave them, JUST to go into TNA so he could ride his coattails. I have little to NO interest in Matt hardy, and havent since around WM 19, when he started the whole V1 stuff, that was it. Now, he's just a no body in my opinion, I can care less what he chooses to call himself
 
This, also. Make fun of him all you want, he's lost a hell of a lot of weight. Post some pics of your abs and see how bad Hardy looks compared to you.

And just because he says he has a weight problem, yet is seen eating crap at a diner, doesn't mean he eats that way all the time. He is also working out at the gym, so he's going to be hungry more often than not. Plus, what if that's the diet he's used to and he can't change it completely yet? I have been losing weight by changing my diet around. I still eat pizza and the occasional fast food, and believe me I can still eat the hell out of some pizza. I've still lost weight, though, and as long as I eat it in moderation it doesn't kill my diet. I wasn't grossly overweight by any means, but I still wanted to nip it in the bud and trim down for my health. (Yes, I have pics in the Post Your Pic thread. Do you, fat joke throwers?)

I could possibly be mis-understanding your attitude and sentiment here. I was not making fun of Matt Hardy for being fat. I'm a fat boy myself. He has lost weight. At the time of posting he was still a bit on the heavier side from what I last saw of him.

If you look I was defending him in my post, but I also offered some criticism as well. I never once stated I had more of a nicer physique. (We all would like that wouldn't we?) However, I had to play Devil's Advocate.

If I say I have a smoking problem and I need to quit. The general consensus is that if I pull out a pack of smokes and start puffin away people are going to question my drive to quit said habit. (I know smoking and food are not the same thing.) I can say all I want that I need to quit or want to quit but doing something contrary to that statement will garner criticism.

Matt has lost weight. Not thrilled with his new hair style but I can respect and see he has tried. He has gotten some improvement. If you look at the time frame I saw where his youtube videos had him looking very big I could only dedeuce from that section of recent at the time videos he was not working hard in the weight loss department.

Thank you for a nice post sir and have a great day all!
 
My thought on this, I used to be a HUGE Hardy supporter no matter what. I mean, I still don't mind Jeff. He does have some mystery around him. He doesn't pander that much to the crowd, I can tolerate him, and he doesn't try too hard, he just is himself. But with Matt, I feel like he's one of those people that you always give them that advice, "Just be yourself, and don't try SO hard." But the problem is, he is ALWAYS ON and always tries WAY TOO hard to impress. The more he tries, the more he irritates and annoys people.

It seems to be more of a nuisance because he's around more of his friends and family in TNA and they certainly will not tell him he's a heel or irrtating, because they are probably used to his behaviour. I mean, I think its a matter of trying TOO hard to get himself over, and the fact that TNA is on a smaller scale than WWE's places where they draw crowds to for shows sometimes. If you are in a smaller place, say Impact Zone, it can be more noticeable when you are not being yourself, or coming off un-natural. I think also given the way he left WWE, and posted the rantings and ravings online, we aren't sure what his 'true colors' are, and that could have also left a bit of sour taste in some fans' mouths about who or what Hardy really stands for. I think no matter what he does to try to play it off, it still can't necessarily win back fans, especially when you have other friends in his circle that will also play the 'split personality/calling out' other card. I mean, I will try to give the benefit of the doubt, but maybe I'm just a skeptic on Matt Hardy and think his tank is a bit empty, and that its all style and no substance with him. That its just grasping at straws basically to try to get him on the level that Jeff still seems to be at.
 
I think it's interesting that Raven got fired & then Matt Hardy came in rocking an old look Raven had. Except he isn't nearly as good as Raven.
 
More like "Cold Cut" Matt Hardy - who cares this guy is a turd. When the most noted thing in your career as of late is being a youtube sensation I really just don't know what to say outside of being grats on being less notable then Tay Zonday.

How this guy even gets talked about is beyond me. I'm sure his gimmick is he is going to be completely ruthless. OMG RUN RAGING REDNECK WITH POTBELLLY ON THE LOOSE AHHHHHH!

I would have to believe that after nearly 15 years on national TV and world exposure Matt Hardy would be considered as more notable than a youtube sensation?! A WWE jobber these days is practically made famous just by being in that ring.

Wish I was the guy credited along with Adam Copeland as being the brains behind TLC. Not just "hey lets have a match where...." - but putting the matches together.

All you favourite spots pal.

Think on.
 
Matt Hardy is pretty awful. He hasn't been a good worker since the last time we saw the Hardy Boyz in the WWE, he's not good on the mic, he's really out of shape, and I don't see the appeal of him. I don't get why TNA was so excited to pick him up, other than the fact that he's Jeff's brother. Both of these guys shined in a tag team with minimal mic work.

If TNA wants to take the chance, I don't see why putting a tag team Hardy Boyz in the main event would be a bad idea.
 
From what I've read on this post it seems many people here don't like Matt Hardy, but some feel that he could be a bigger star...and I'm sure he could.

IF he changed his hairstyle and wrestling attire, greatly improved his mic skills, developed an interesting gimmick, put more effort into his moveset and match psychology, got into impressive shape, stopped playing the sidekick, and was less of a douchbag youtube ****e. So basically Hardy would have to become a completely different person! This guy has been given years to perfect his trade and he still hasn't. His match with RVD at Against All Odds wasn't terrible, it was actually one of the better matches on the ppv, however, for the most part, his matches seem repetitive and uninspired. I haven't liked either of the Hardy Boys since they were jobbers and that's exactly where they should've stayed. Matt Hardy makes for a decent loser and should be used as enhancement talent at this stage in his career.

As for the "Cold Blooded" thing, of course it could work, virtually any decent idea can if presented the right way, but low and behold Matt can't engross us in the character. Being "cold blooded" is more of a character trait than a character. If you look at "Stone Cold," Austin didn't just come out and say he was "stone cold," he backed it up. He never asked for help nor accepted it, he rarely helped anyone else out, he didn't pat anybody on the back, he didn't complain or make excuses when he got screwed, and he even used a catchphrase, "D.T.A.," that complemented the "stone cold" part of Austin's "badass redneck" persona. He was "stone cold" with his words and actions. If you're gonna go with the cold blood thing, then you should do more than just talk about it. What actions has he taken to show the fans he's "cold blooded?" In fact, he bitches and whines so much he comes off just the opposite.

Of course TNA is partly to blame because they don't know what they're doing, but Matt Hardy has been given plenty of chances throughout his career. I understand why TNA wants him on the roster, he's had some past glory (underserving imo) and has a fan base, but as far as being a solid performer, he wasn't, isn't, and probably will never be. He should be iced then fired!
 

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