C.M. Punk Wins The WHC

[Uncle Sam]

Well the fact of the matter is, the Raw Ratings are in, and the ratings are good news. The first hour did a 3.43 and the second hour jumped a whole point and a half to 3.58, which means that CM Punk is drawing better as champion then Triple H and Randy Orton....

To be fair Shocky, that's like saying one sprinter is faster than the other when one has a humongous wind advantage, if you get what I mean. If you don't: I mean Punk was on Raw the night after two shock victories and pulled off a shock victory himself. The WWE is consciously doing all this to get ratings back up, there's no question, but I think - and I think you'll agree too - that people are tuning in to see the shock champion more than they are to see Punk as champion.

Anyways, that's a good number for the WWE, unlike the verbal backlash you see on here, most people didn't turn out, and in fact, people did indeed stay tuned throughout the night. Again, I still don't see the Harm in the WWE trying something new. In my opinion, it says that the WWE at this point feel that John Cena is bigger then the title and are trying to use the title to make another main eventer, and I have no problem with that

Different is good, and unpredictable is exciting too. However, it doesn't mean we have to like everything we get out of it. It's like, someone goes "I want new ingredients in my sandwiches!" and then gets a steaming turd in his sandwich. I'm not calling Punk a steaming turd, I'm just saying because we wanted something unpredictable, and got something unpredictable, doesn't mean we like what we got. You know what else would have been unpredictable? Executing a young infant on television.

I know you weren't really saying that Shocky, but others had been.

Wow, WWE finally does what people have been saying they need eto do for years now, and push a young talent into the ME, they put the title on some one new, and tried something dare I say somewhat original & different, and now people are bitching about it?!?,

Refer to my "steaming turd" argument. I think it counters this argument pretty well.

whether you like it or not Punk is champ, and Punk becoming champ has both brought the ratings up, and has people talking,

Refer to my "sprinter with humongous wind advantage" argument. I think it counters this argument pretty well.

as far as people saying that Triple H should have dropped the title last night instead of Edge, you seriously need to think about what you are saying here, I mean how much sense would it have made if a face Triple H had interrupt JR, and run his mouth how no one on RAW can take his title, and then have a face Batista (or Cena) come out and beat the hell out of him, and then have a face Punk cash in his MITB title shot on a face Triple H, yeah that would have made loads of sense

Firstly, yeah, if you were to be ******ed and write Triple H as a heel it would make no sense. Thought that was kind of obvious. Far be it for the champion to have a final match on Raw or a final appearance even. Would probably make more sense than SmackDown!'s premier champion showing up at the start of the show. Triple H could have a close match with John Cena or something, then be susceptible to an opportunistic Punk. Only difference then would be Punk being a clear cut heel instead of this whole "What the fuck? He's a face but he needs the heel to get beaten up first before he runs in and pins him?" mess we've got going on.

And before someone starts putting random words in my mouth ("So you're saying Triple H killed the prostitutes on said dates?" is the only way these assumptions could elevate more) I AM NOT BLAMING THIS ON TRIPLE H.

 

[orton_is_god]

first of all i totally didnt see this coming punk winning the title tonight was a huge shocker.I like everyone else thought punk was gonna cash in against trips on sunday or at edges wedding but not on monday.

the only problem i have is that i dont think punk or kofi kingston are ready to hold the titles on raw.

punk has been struggling on ecw recently and kingston hasnt beaten anyone but shelton and now jericho everyone else sucks.Kofi beating jericho was an excuse to get the IC title off of Y2J so he could feud with hbk. the IC title has lost its value so whatever.punk winning the WHC was just a way to get a title back on raw.I think vince wanted the WHC on raw and the WWE title on smackdown bc both shows were better when those titles were on their respective shows.but now that shitty spinner belt has to go trips needs to bring back the old title the one jbl wore.it was nice.punk turning heel would be a nice change of pace. but if not i see him dropping it to orton when he returns from his injury.and we could see orton/mysterio orton/kane and orton/batista.some nice feuds could develop from this.plus the WHC looks better on orton than that shitty cena belt did anyway.


Quote-We dont allow John Cenas in the palace of wisdom.

 

[Rusty]

I personally love CM Punk as the new World Heavyweight champ. The WWE is clearly becoming more unpredictable and more interesting. This was an absolute shock for me. I expected Punk to cash in at the end of the year or possibly even later than that. But, cashing in now, was definately more unexpected which I think is great.

Since Punk won Money in the Bank, he has lost matches almost every week. I knew the WWE had to be up to something. I didnt believe he was in the doghouse because if he was, he wouldnt have won the MITB match in the first place. So I thought, if the WWE lets Punk lose frequently, when he cashes in, it will come as more of a shock and a 'fluke' win. I was right.

The way he won it was very well done. It made Edge look strong as he was already beaten up by Batista, and was "unable" to wrestle a match against CM Punk. However, I think the WWE championship should be on the flagship brand, Raw, as the title has much more history than the World Heavyweight championship. But nonetheless, I still respect the shock value of this move, and I like Punk as the champ.

People have been complaining over the last few months especially how "we need new main eventers" and "the WWE is boring because of the same old superstars wrestle for the titles e.g Cena, Orton, HHH, Edge, Batista etc". So when the WWE does a great move and basicly instantly turns Punk into a main eventer in 1 fricken night, people bitch about it.

Its almost impossible for some people to compliment the WWE nowadays and I think its sad. I try to think positive as much as possible in regards to WWE. Yet, some people bitch every single week, but still amazingly tune in every single week.

If you bitch about the show, why even bother to watch? O.K, everyone is going to disagree with at least 1 move the WWE makes every week, but the draft really freshed things up, people bitch about the draft, HHH moves to the 2nd important show of the WWE, people bitched, the WWE made a new and young main eventer within 1 night, people bitch. These bitchy people, are the exact same people who wanted the draft, who wanted Triple H off Raw and who wanted new main eventers. Think positive people

Anyways, a great move from the WWE and I hope Punk doesnt get squashed and actually has a decent world title reign.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

People are being so fucking dramatic about this

Ok, firstly. Edge isnt like dead, or retired, he just lost a fucking match. The same exact way he WON two of his world titles. SO im not sure how fans of his can bitch. Barring his getting shot or some shit, he WILL most likely be a champ again. So calm down.

And sweet goodness. Easssy proof there is no way to satisfy the IWC. Everyone wants to cry and bitch about wanting shockers, but when its not their favorite wrestler involved in the shocker, then we want to shit all over it. Ok, dudes, Punk most likely isnt going to be WHC for a fucking year, if he even keeps it a few months. Shit, its CM PUNK he may fuck around and loose the belt at GAB!! I wasnt even convinced he would keep it past Monday night!!!! So chill the fuck out, and enjoy the ride. Kudos for WWE for giving us a shock.

 

[D-Squared]

I really did not see Punk winning the World Title and to be honest i was pretty annoyed.

How does a guy who barely won a match on ECW in his last few weeks there more to the "A Show" and suddenly become World Heavyweight Champion.

I was hoping and wishing for JBL to win the title in the main event but ill give WWE credit for not making Punk a transitional champ - i was really expecting him to lose it but i am willing to give Punk a chance as champ

I do however see him losing it at The Great American Bash in either a triple threat or fatal four way involving Cena, Batista and JBL - i cant see Punk headlining SummerSlam so i think he will lose the title at GAB.

 

[SuperSwanton]

How does a guy who barely won a match on ECW in his last few weeks there more to the "A Show" and suddenly become World Heavyweight Champion.

Simple. He cashed in the Money in the Bank briefcase.


Besides it was a big twist and I know Edge was a hard working champ but they had to get RAW a World Title somehow and CM Punk was the only way.

Why would you want JBL who is Terrible to listen to as champ. I thought everyone would rather have Punk with the title. I hope if they do do a triple threat or fatal four with Cena involved that he doesn't win. He had it for a year and if they build Punk as a champ I could see him headlining Summer Slam

 

[MasterDebator]

Simple. He cashed in the Money in the Bank briefcase.

Exactly. That is what the point of the MITB briefcase is. No matter who owns it, no matter how many wins or losses the owner has had; at anytime, anyplace, they can cash it in for a title match. CM Punk did what someone with that sort of advantage would do, which is use it...TO HIS ADVANTAGE! Let's face it. Punk has done most of his losing on ECW. No one watches that show. Granted he hasn't been made to look like Cena on Raw or SD, but he hasn't been buried to the point where fans don't buy him as a viable threat in the ring.

I also see the possibility of a Y2J feud with Punk coming out of this down the road. If Jericho sticks to his heel character and continues to preach to crowds and wrestlers about honesty, he can call Punk out on the way he cashed in his briefcase and won his title. As for now, it seems like Cena/JBL are going to be Punk's challengers but down the road, if the WWE keeps the strap on Punk, a Y2J/Punk feud could be in the works.

 

[Uncle Sam]

People are being so fucking dramatic about this

They are?

Ok, firstly. Edge isnt like dead, or retired, he just lost a fucking match. The same exact way he WON two of his world titles. SO im not sure how fans of his can bitch. Barring his getting shot or some shit, he WILL most likely be a champ again. So calm down.

Did you, like, read only a single post in this thread NorCal? There's been more people pro-Punk than anti-Punk; the vocal majority from what I've seen. If you're going to needlessly generalise, then call the IWC pro-Punk if anything.

And sweet goodness. Easssy proof there is no way to satisfy the IWC.

A few people at best are displeased. And I for one don't blame them. The only person I've seen who is strictly anti-Punk is Will, and his reasoning is sound.

Everyone wants to cry and bitch about wanting shockers, but when its not their favorite wrestler involved in the shocker, then we want to shit all over it.

Again, refer to my "steaming turd sandwich" argument. Doesn't work exactly, but you seem to be talking about posts no one has made anyway.

Exactly. That is what the point of the MITB briefcase is. No matter who owns it, no matter how many wins or losses the owner has had; at anytime, anyplace, they can cash it in for a title match.

You seem to understand it well enough.

CM Punk did what someone with that sort of advantage would do, which is use it...TO HIS ADVANTAGE!

Punk did what a heel would do, and took advantage of a damaged opponent. Just like Edge (WWE's top heel) did. When Angle made his surprise entry on Raw - which has massive similarities to this - he was a face and he won clean. Granted, he couldn't have taken advantage of a damaged opponent, but he won it clean. Rob Van Dam announced a match with a month's notice for Christ's sake. Yet Punk does as Edge does. Ridiculous. Waits for "but you'd complain if Edge was made to look weak." I would, and I'd be right to. What's the right way to have done it? I honestly can't think of one.

Let's face it. Punk has done most of his losing on ECW. No one watches that show.

He's lost a few high profile matches on Raw. King of the Ring ring a bell? And the fact that he lost on the C-show just makes him look weaker.

Granted he hasn't been made to look like Cena on Raw or SD, but he hasn't been buried to the point where fans don't buy him as a viable threat in the ring.

He's been made to not look like a viable threat to main eventers. Capitalizing on such an oppurtunity just made it look worse.

I also see the possibility of a Y2J feud with Punk coming out of this down the road. If Jericho sticks to his heel character and continues to preach to crowds and wrestlers about honesty, he can call Punk out on the way he cashed in his briefcase and won his title. As for now, it seems like Cena/JBL are going to be Punk's challengers but down the road, if the WWE keeps the strap on Punk, a Y2J/Punk feud could be in the works.

I'd enjoy that feud. Although I find Jericho to be overrated, there are certain aspects of him that, should they rub off on Punk, would improve him drastically.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Ive seen plenty of posts over numerous threads that illustrates the over reacting to this, and I was posting in the LD! when the actual event itself happened, so yes, ive seen plenty of posts by numerous people flipping out over this. Ive seen PLENTY more anti "this move" than pro "this move". Punk is in the same camp as Kennedy, as everyone's new favorite to shit on, after being an IWC favorite. And it doesnt really matter HOW MANY people said it, if some are being wildly dramatic over this, then that post was directed at them, and explained why being that way is silly.

 

[Slim Pickns]

Well the fact of the matter is, the Raw Ratings are in, and the ratings are good news. The first hour did a 3.43 and the second hour jumped a whole point and a half to 3.58, which means that CM Punk is drawing better as champion then Triple H and Randy Orton....

Anyways, that's a good number for the WWE, unlike the verbal backlash you see on here, most people didn't turn out, and in fact, people did indeed stay tuned throughout the night. Again, I still don't see the Harm in the WWE trying something new. In my opinion, it says that the WWE at this point feel that John Cena is bigger then the title and are trying to use the title to make another main eventer, and I have no problem with that

I agree with you on most, Cena is the biggest star and RAW is finally fresh, but this should have been done the right way. Triple H should have dropped the belt to Cena, then Cena could have put over Punk the way he did RVD. Then RAW would be fresh and have credible challengers. Cena could move on to a feud with Jericho while Punk could take on JBL then eventually HBK. I'm not normally a negative person, but I can't help put seeing RAW's World Champion as the guy who couldn't beat the Miz on ECW less than a month ago.

 

[MasterDebator]

You seem to understand it well enough.

Thank you. I act as if I'm breaking new ground.

He's lost a few high profile matches on Raw. King of the Ring ring a bell? And the fact that he lost on the C-show just makes him look weaker.

If you recall, Regal defeated Hornswoggle and an injured Finlay after Punk had to beat Matt Hardy and Chris Jericho to get to the final match. Losing in that fashion hardly makes you look bad. I agree that when you have been losing to the likes of Chavo Guerrero it doesn't exactly leave you looking strong, but he never lost the case. If he didn't have the case it'd be a different story but the case has been there. Fans knew regardless of who he lost to and how many times he lost, he could still end up champ at any given time.

As for complaining over Edge being made to look weak -- yea -- I've been complaining about it too. I enjoy the heel who needs to be saved by his crew every now and then but, I'd like to see Edge go over clean every once in a while. In fact, Edge has been looking weak ever since One Night Stand and probably before that.

He's been made to not look like a viable threat to main eventers. Capitalizing on such an oppurtunity just made it look worse.

Yet the WWE did the right thing in having Cena come out and congratulate him on "taking the advantage" as well as Punk accepting a title match with JBL minutes after he won the belt. He goes on to beat JBL+goons with a little help from Cena/Cryme Time and Punk all of a sudden looks a lot better then he did coming in to Raw Monday night. I'm not ecstatic with the move and I don't need to be shocked every week to enjoy wrestling but I do enjoy fresh champs, fresh challengers, and fresh feuds. Sue me.

 

[BooCocky]

I dont believe the vast majority are pro punk, i believe they are thinkinh positive because it is something new, it is something that shocked millions of people. You can love or hate Punk but its a move that shocked everyone.

Punk wasnt so called "weaker", he held the briefcase which gives him the opportunity to cash it in whenever and where ever, he did what a good and smart heel would do, he became an opportunist.

The WWE has nothing to lose because it was sinking, so why not try something that shocked the hell out of everyone? You never know, it could be the start of something "BIG.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Thank you. I act as if I'm breaking new ground.

Indeed.

If you recall, Regal defeated Hornswoggle and an injured Finlay after Punk had to beat Matt Hardy and Chris Jericho to get to the final match. Losing in that fashion hardly makes you look bad.

The fashion in which they got there is hardly as memorable as the final match, is it? Not that it was an incredible match, just that it's the final. The final will always dramatically overshadow the matches that came before it. Not to mention he'd only just got the MITB.

I agree that when you have been losing to the likes of Chavo Guerrero it doesn't exactly leave you looking strong, but he never lost the case. If he didn't have the case it'd be a different story but the case has been there. Fans knew regardless of who he lost to and how many times he lost, he could still end up champ at any given time.

He looks weaker then. He looks worse than Edge. At least Edge wouldn't lose pointlessly. Now it just looks like Punk's an overhyped midcarder who could only be world champion through a fluke. Winning at any given time doesn't make him look dangerous, it makes him look like he needs an unfair advantage.

As for complaining over Edge being made to look weak -- yea -- I've been complaining about it too. I enjoy the heel who needs to be saved by his crew every now and then but, I'd like to see Edge go over clean every once in a while.

He went over clean, or cleaner than he usually does, against Punk not long ago, I believe. I think it was preceding the Rumble.

Yet the WWE did the right thing in having Cena come out and congratulate him on "taking the advantage" as well as Punk accepting a title match with JBL minutes after he won the belt. He goes on to beat JBL+goons with a little help from Cena/Cryme Time and Punk all of a sudden looks a lot better then he did coming in to Raw Monday night.

He looks better, but not a lot better. It's not like JBL's been hot shit since his comeback. He's a past champion, so beating him means something, but right now he's in that same "but is he really a main eventer?" territory as Punk.

I'm not ecstatic with the move and I don't need to be shocked every week to enjoy wrestling but I do enjoy fresh champs, fresh challengers, and fresh feuds. Sue me.

As do I, although I just worry what that surprise has cost, what its expense was. And I've already put in a call to my lawyers.

 

[MasterDebator]

The fashion in which they got there is hardly as memorable as the final match, is it? Not that it was an incredible match, just that it's the final. The final will always dramatically overshadow the matches that came before it. Not to mention he'd only just got the MITB.

Agreed, but it was done carefully enough to not make Punk look worse than Regal -- only to look like he lost as a result of his manipulation of the tournament. Either way, it was a loss but it depends on how you look at the KOTR as a whole. He also beat Matt Hardy and a star (overrated maybe) in Jericho to get there.

He looks weaker then. He looks worse than Edge. At least Edge wouldn't lose pointlessly. Now it just looks like Punk's an overhyped midcarder who could only be world champion through a fluke. Winning at any given time doesn't make him look dangerous, it makes him look like he needs an unfair advantage.

And now is his chance to prove that he doesn't need an unfair advantage to be successful. It'd be different if JBL went over him Monday night. Then it would be plausible to say that Punk is nothing without some sort of x-factor that helps his cause. But he was outnumbered at first, got some assistance, and won via pinfall. How he looked coming into Monday night is no longer relevant, and how he looked is certainly debatable since I agree with you, he looked weak. Still, I stand by the fact that as weak as he looked, he still had an edge with that cae. It's now on creative to turn him into a REAL champ who doesn't need the unfair advantage. It also gives potential opponents an "in" by challenging him to beat them and defend the belt without them getting decimated by the likes of Batista before the match.

He looks better, but not a lot better. It's not like JBL's been hot shit since his comeback. He's a past champion, so beating him means something, but right now he's in that same "but is he really a main eventer?" territory as Punk.

I agree. JBL is no Cena. But he is still a credible opponent who won a match at Mania, has battled with arguably the top star on the roster since then, and is coming off of a win. By no means does going over JBL mean nothing.

As do I, although I just worry what that surprise has cost, what its expense was. And I've already put in a call to my lawyers.

We'll find out what the price was. If creative has a decent run in store and if Punk can deliver, it will be looked at differently by the anti-punkers. I find myself in the middle right now, waiting to see what's in store.

 

[mcflyboy]

I have no problem with Punk winning. I'm not pro or anti punk personally, but it's a move that made sense. I would change his thrash metal entrance music and he needs a new finisher really really badly, but in the ring he seems to be a solid performer. Honestly, he works really well in the ring, both on offense and defense and you have to respect that he is a good performer.

True, he lost a lot of matches since winning MITB, which I think is the main thing that prompted a lot of naysayers, but so what. It'll give a good opportunity to change how his character is perceived. And if he's a transitional champion, so be it, it still worked for storyline purposes and getting the title back on raw.

 

[RVDgurl]

Congrats to Punk! I think that it was a very good choice by the WWE to follow through with his push. For the first time in a while, I was actually shocked by a WWE storyline. I was hoping that Punk would get his push by WM, but I never expected it to happen so quickly. It was a great way for the WWE to prove that they are attempting to shake things up and keep the shows fresh. RAW was in desperate need of some new blood, especially main event guys.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Agreed, but it was done carefully enough to not make Punk look worse than Regal -- only to look like he lost as a result of his manipulation of the tournament. Either way, it was a loss but it depends on how you look at the KOTR as a whole. He also beat Matt Hardy and a star (overrated maybe) in Jericho to get there.

The point remains though, that when people look back, they won't see that Punk had the harder road, they'll just see that he lost.

And now is his chance to prove that he doesn't need an unfair advantage to be successful.

Hasn't yet, really.

How he looked coming into Monday night is no longer relevant,

Eh?

and how he looked is certainly debatable since I agree with you, he looked weak.

Which is why I feel it is very much relevant.

Still, I stand by the fact that as weak as he looked, he still had an edge with that cae. It's now on creative to turn him into a REAL champ who doesn't need the unfair advantage. It also gives potential opponents an "in" by challenging him to beat them and defend the belt without them getting decimated by the likes of Batista before the match.

At the very least, it'll be interesting to watch. As long as WWE doesn't fuck it up immediately, which it's been know to do, this should maintain some interest.

I agree. JBL is no Cena. But he is still a credible opponent who won a match at Mania, has battled with arguably the top star on the roster since then, and is coming off of a win. By no means does going over JBL mean nothing.

It doesn't mean a great amount though.

We'll find out what the price was. If creative has a decent run in store and if Punk can deliver, it will be looked at differently by the anti-punkers. I find myself in the middle right now, waiting to see what's in store.

Uh...huh.

 

[RoyHahn]

I think the real question is: where do we go from here? Punk is new, whether your like him or not. That makes so many new feuds available. We have seen and will probably continue to see Punk vs. JBL. However, we can also have Punk vs. Cena, Punk vs. Jericho, Punk vs. HBK, Punk vs. Batista, Punk vs. Kane, and so many more. This was a great move in my opinion because it takes away from the same old. We will not see Triple H vs. Orton anymore, or Cena vs. Orton, or anything like that. We have a new main eventer, and I believe that is crucial. Who would have thought when NOC went off the air that CM PUNK would likely be headlining The Great American Bash? Give the guy a chance - this could be exactly what we've been looking for.

 

[MasterDebator]

Hasn't yet, really.

Yea. That's what I said. He won the belt over an opponent who was down. Now he has to prove he can beat an opponent in a fair match.

Which is why I feel it is very much relevant.

My point is that what's done is done.

It doesn't mean a great amount though.

Didn't say it meant a great amount.

Uh...huh.

I was referring to your "at what price" argument. I'm trying to say that this is the type of move that should elevate a performer (Punk) by allowing him to have the ball in his court. It's all about hindsight. If he ends up performing well in the ring and on the mic and creative feeds him good opponents in good feuds than I'll jump on board. If Punk falters in popularity for some reason or simply can't take the pressure of being champ on the flagship show, then they'll find someone who can. Also, if creative already plans to have him lose the belt within the next 2-3 months, then we'll know it was just a shock value move with no merit.

 

[ratedmstar]

CM PUNK, CM PUNK, CM PUNK! Get used to it cause you're gonna be hearing it a hell of a lot now Punk is champion. CM PUNK has fought his way up from a backyard wrestling federation to be the World Heavyweight Champion and some of you people shit on him and say he isn't good at promos, he's too loose in the ring etc. This is just wrong dudes. CM Punk deserves this, despite what some of you may say about him. In reply to some people saying that he isn't good enough in the ring, why are you watching wrestling cause this guy has double the in ring ability as people like John Cena, JBL, Batista, Randy Orton, and some of his moves are the most hard hitting and believable in the whole of wrestling, just look at his kicks and even the GTS which actually looks like it could inflict serious damage to someone. Punk is also incredibly talented in terms of talking despite WWE not fully exploiting this attribute to its full extent and clearly possesses that special something something extra in terms of charisma that sets him apart. He is clearly one of the most well over of the entire roster despite some of the bizarre booking decisions he has had to endure most likely due to the way he chooses to live not being in line with the beliefs of the good ol' boys in the back. I feel that Punk is going to be given the opportunity to run with the belt and I think the idea that the WWE wants to build around him is that everyone is expecting the belt to be given to a 'bigger' star, but it won't be and every title defence will be a draw because people won't be able to help themselves but to tune in due to their desire for him to retain, despite believing in the back of their mind that he won't be allowed to win against more established stars, when in fact he actually will, at the same time helping to carve his name out as a star who confounds the critics by going against the grain and achieving the unachievable which is in keeping with his mantra on life. I feel that the WWE have taken elevating Punk to his new status very seriously and this is not simply a quick fix, as can be referenced by the poster for the great american bash that features Punk alongside Cena Edge Batista HHH and HBK that was circulated over a month ago, and they truely believe that he is someone they can rely on for the future due to A) His lifestyle and B) His love for the business, someone who despite lacking the physique and raw power of Cena etc. has the individuality, charisma and ability to succeed.

 

[twistoffate_113]

i was relly shocked to see him winning the match i never new they would push him now i thought to bring a title back to raw they would have triple h and edge have a unification match or the losers belt goes to the other show type of stipulation

 

[Bunnytracks]

Bitch Bitch Bitch!

While I'm not CM Punk's biggest fan, I do kind of like him, not completly over on him though so I think that puts me in a good position to judge without a bias so heres my take on it.

Many are arguing that he had the "Unfair Advantage" seeing as how Batista beat the shit out of Edge before Punk cashed in his MITB briefcase. I look at that as Edge getting a taste of his own medicine for once, and being the piece of shit that Edge's character is, I thought it was a brilliant move from the creative team to go through with! Karma made Edge his bitch and pimped him out! Nice

Also many are arguing about how many times Punk has been defeated by other oppenents, Miz being one of the most reinforced past victors over Punk. I'm going to say this once...QUIT MARKING OUT! These matches are predetermined beforehand by the bookers, so that throws out that argument against him. The fact that he has laid down for others works in his favor and shows he is a cooperative talent unlike some others in the back! That is where respect starts, IMHO.

I also think his straight edge lifestyle may be another reason for his push, as Vince won't have to worry about having him drop the belt while Punk gets this push due to them using illegal substances. With Jeff Hardy and William Regal both fucking up in the past it's probably made Vince a little paranoid about who should get the next big push so maybe he is going with the safer candidate in Punk, honestly can you blame him for that? So that takes care of the "Easy Route" argument against him as well. He isn't popping pain killers and infusing himself with roids as some others have in the past, or in other words, he is man enough to not to puss out from the pain or feel insignificant about his size.

And finally, someone had to bring a belt over to RAW and since everyone above the age of 12 would have pissed and moaned had it been Batista or Cena, they decided to shake things up a bit by having Punk bring over the WHC.

I do think there are other candidates for the belt who are more qualified, but lets face it, he wasn't the worst decision, in fact I'd place him in the top 10 for a championship reign. I say let this dog have his day and just chill the fuck out people.

He is unique, non-traditional, and fresh. That's what the WWE needs now more than anything!

That's all I have to say for now!

Take Care

 

[klemsin66]

HOW BOUT THAT FOR A PUSH HUH HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT.... I hate that CM Punk is the champion. Do I agree with it? Yes...way to switch things up...nice curveball if you will. It also goes to show you how much they think of the WHC title. ALSO ONCE AGAIN HHH SCREWS ANOTHER WRESTLER..EDGE THIS TIME MUCH LIKE RANDY ORTON....hmmm

 

[kingrko]

Now, I'm not a huge Punk fan, but it seems to me that the WWE was going for shock-value more than anything. Shock-value is normally followed by the question on whether he can keep the title? Naturally people want this question answered, so they tune into Raw to find out. It's been mentioned a couple of times and I agree with it. Punk will need to defend and retain the title against an array of popular opponents that fans are sure he will lose to. The way I see it, that may be the only way Punk will really make a positive impact oin ratings. Or maybe a heel turn would work, since two of the top title contenders are currently face. (Cena and Batista.) Also, I don't care what people say, Punk as champion DOES makes things interesting! We'll have fueds we've never seen before, and for one of the World Title's to boot! Punk's got the ball in his court, so let's watch and see if he can score.

you internet fans make me sick, enjoy the moment ........rejuvenation...finally young talent is being showcased.
dont get mad at punk for going over edge, we will be entertained with a great edge HHH feud in no time
has anyone realized Samoa Joe and CM Punk are both world champions at the same time...the future has finally arrived
enjoy the moment internet fans, two of the biggest guys to leave the indies are kings of there companies

Internet fans make you sick huh.... THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ON THE INTERNET READING THESE FORUMS!

Also, I don't know about the future arriving, because I can't see Punk actually carrying Raw for a LONG time to actually make people say that the future is arriving. Unless you mean that Punk's reign (I don't give a damn about Joe's reign.) is a sign for what's to come in WWE for talents such as Kennedy and Jeff Hardy, but whatever....

I've said it before, just give Punk a decent reign to prove himself on the brand where he has decent opponents. A long reign? I seriously doubt that.

Also I wouldn't say Punk is King. (HHH has the WWE Title) And skillwise Joe definitely isn't King. (Kurt Angle, need I say anything more?)

 

[valon10]

Punk,as World Champion got to be one of the dumbest things they did.It is not a smart move because he isn't ready to be World Champion.How do you come from winning the ECW Title to winning the World Title?It's ironic that Edge lost the World title the same way he win it by screwing The Undertaker out of the World Title when Edge cashed Money in the bank like Punk just did.But,let me get something straight here Edge is a better champion then CM Punk.Ask yourself this question what does CM Punk have that Edge doesn't? Edge got mic skills,and he is great at wrestling in the ring.Let's just get to the point here, I would have someone else other then CM Punk win the World title like Shawn Michaels,Batista,JBL,or Randy Orton when he comes back from his injury.Don't get me wrong CM Punk isn't that bad but,it's way to soon to give him the World Title because he needs to improve his wrestling skills,and mic skills.